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A62157	Some queries proposed, to the monethly meeting of the Quakers at Aberdeen; the sixth day of June, 1700. By Robert Sandilands With their answers thereto; together with some remarks thereupon. Published by authority. To which is prefixed a letter from George Keith, sent to the Quakers in Aberdeen, containing a very serious and Christian expostulation with his old friends, &c.	Sandilands, Robert.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716. aut	1700 (1700)	Wing S663; ESTC R220626	23,403	36

of Life the word that is nigh in the Heart and in the Mouth but the Letter of the Scripture is outward of it self a dead thing a meer declaration of good things but not the things themselves therefore it nor is nor can be the Chief or Principal RULE of Christians But least any should mistake him and think that tho he owned them not to be the principal Rule yet at least he acknowledged them to be a RULE he immediatly adds § 3 That which is given to Christians for a RULE and Guide must needs be so full as it may clearly and distinctly Guide and Order them in all things and occurrences that may fall out But the Scriptures are not such as he instanceth in several particulars therefore the Scriptures cannot be a RULE to them And as they are not a RULE so nor the Rule as he sayeth in another place As for CHRIST and his Apostles using the Scriptures for convincing of their Opposers so do we and yet this proves not that either he or we judge them pag. 15. near the end to be the Rule whereby to try all things and Spirits c. The Reader may plainly observe the great inconsistency betwixt what R. B. says and what Andrew Jaffray and his Friends say They affirm the Scriptures to be an RULE an Infallible RULE and an Infallible RULE of Faith and Life in which they are very orthodox and I must in Charity believe that in so farr are our Modern Quakers Reformed and very justly laid aside their former Doctrine Which is yet more plainly and explicitly delivered by William Penn in his Appendix to the Christian Quaker for after endeavouring to prove that the Scriptures were never the General RULE he at last by way of Objection says Pag 136 But is not the Scripture the RULE of our Day he answers if the RULE then the general RULE for pag 137. whatsoever is the RULE of Faith and Life excludeth all other from being general they being but particular in respect of it self therefore not the RULE of Faith and Life but besides their not being general I have several Reasons to o●ter and he brings no less then nine or ten Reasons why they cannot be the Rule of Faith and Life See George Keith's Book called the Deism of William Penn c. Wherein there is a full examination and confutation of William Penns Discourse of the General RULE of Faith and Practice and Judge of Contraversie Printed Anno 1699. Observe also what is said in one of their Books called the Quakers Refuge p. 17. Whether the first Penman of the Scriptures was Moses or Hermes or whether both these are one or whether there are not many Words contained in the Scriptures which were not spoken by INSPIRATION of the Holy Spirit And in a Book called Truths Defence by G. F. and R. H. p. 2d You may as well Condemn the Scriptures to the Fire as our Queries Q. 2. Whether the Light within be sufficient of it self to Salvation without any thing else A. Unto such as are under a moral impossibility of coming to the knowledge of the Incarnation Life Miracles Crucifiction Death Resurrection and Ascension of our Lord JESUS ' CHRIST the Light wherewith he inlighteneth every Man coming into the World is sufficient to Salvation Ioh. 1. 9. Tit. 2. 11. But where the outward knowledge of the Scriptures is attainable or the outward History of our Saviour it is altogether damnable not to believe the same R. This Answer to the second Querie is in my opinion no Answer at all but a down right shifting the Question which hath no respect to such as are under a moral impossibility of knowing the Life Death Miracles c. of our Blessed Lord JESUS CHRIST but to such as have the means of knowing them and tho to such it be certainly Damnable not to believe them yet that tells us not whither the Light within be of its self sufficient to Salvation without any thing else yea or not and therefore I must again intreat that they may be pleased Candidly and sincerely to give a plain and direct Answer to the Querie and this I have the more reason to demand because Robert Barclay of Urie at the first giving in of their Answers being ●ressed to declare whether to such as have the means of knowing the Life Death Miracles c. of the Holy JESUS the Light within was of it self sufficient to Salvation He answered negatively that it was not and carried away the Answers to have that insert as thier Answer to the Querie which after all was not done From whence it appears that either they are not agreed amongst themselves about the resolution of this Querie and so shift the Answering it Or else that they are afraid to own the Truth plainly least thereby they contradict their Antient Friends And particularly George Whitehood who plainly asserts in his Antidote p. 28. That the Quakers are offended with G. K. for saying the Light within is not sufficient to Salvation without something else The which Proposition seing he blames as false he must hold the Contradictory to be true that the light within is sufficient to Salvation without any thing else Yea G. W. hath granted in his Antidote p. 28. that CHRIST as outwardly Considered is that something else which G. K. means And W. P. in his appendix to the Christian Quakers pag. 158. plainly affirms that the belief of the History of CHRIST's Birth Death c. is none of the absolute necessaries to our Salvation And in his Quakerism a new Nickname c. He saveth That Faith in the History of CHRIST's outward pag. 6 manifestation is a deadly poyson these latter Ages has been infected with and he sayes also in his Rejoynder to I. Fa●do that CHRIST in the Gentiles is a greater mistery then CHRIST as he was made manifest in the Flesh it is strange that should be counted most misterious which was the introduction to the mistery and these transactions counted most difficult that were by the Divine Wisdom of GOD ordained as so many facil representations of what was to be accomplished in Man it is to le●en if not totally exclude the true mistery of Godliness which is CHRIST manifested in his Children their hope of Glory p. 335 Like to this is his saying in his Preface to the Collection of Robert Barclays Book ' s. O Reader sayeth he great is the mistery of Godliness and if the Apostle said it of the manifestation pag. 36. of the Son of GOD in the Flesh if that be a mistery and if a mistery it is not to be spelled out but by the revelation of the Spirit how much more is the See also His Christi an Quaker pag. 12. work of Regeneration a mistery that is wholly inward and spiritual Q. 3. Whether the Holy Three the FATHER SON and HOLY GHOST that bear record in Heaven be not threedistinct Persons of one

Substance Power Glory and Eternity Or are they only three manifestations or operations and is there not some Incommunicable as well as Communicable Attributes belonging to the Persons of the Holy Trinity A. We believe according to the Scriptures that there are three that bare record in Heaven the FATHER the WORLD and the HOLY GHOST and these three are One 1 Joh. 5. 7. And we do not find our selves obliged to express our selves in other terms than the Wisdom of GOD saw meet to express that great mistery in the Holy Scriptures But we do believe that there are incommunicable as well as communicable Attributes in the said Holy three as is witnessed Joh. 1. 14. And the Word was made Flesh and dwelt among us which cannot be said of the other two R. In this Answer to the third Querie it is said there are incommunicable as well as communicable Attributes in the Holy three c. And yet G. Whitehead sayeth in his Truth defending the Quakers We deny the Popish terms pag. 2. of three distinct Persons which you call GOD the FATHER GOD the SON and GOD the HOLY GHOST which tends to the dividing GOD and to the making three GOD's and do not you Priests in your Divinity as you call it affirm that a Person is a Single Rational Compleat Substance and differing from another by an INCOMMUNICABLE PROPERTY and art thou so blind as to think that there is such a difference in the God head seing CHRIST is equal with his FATHER who is a SPIRIT then what INCOMMUNICABLE PROPERTY can he differ in from the FATHER that is not COMMUNICABLE to the one as well as the other And Geo Fox one of the greatest account among them in his disputing against C. Wade for saying that GOD the FATHER never took upon him Human Nature which sayeth he in his great mistery is contrary to the Scripture This was the Error of the Old Hereticks pag. 246. called Patripassians who held that GOD the FATHER was born of the Virgin suffered dyed c. Q. 4. Is not the promised Seed of the Woman that should bruise the Serpents Head Gen. 3. 15. The Man CHRIST JESUS that was born of the Virgin at Bethlehem in the Land of Iudea A. We Answer affirmatively it is he and he alone we never in the least doubted it what ever malice may suggest without the least ground R. This Answer may be compared with what W. P. sayes in express words in his Christian Quaker p. 97 98. One outward thing saithhe cannot be the propper figure of another nor is it the way of Holy Scripture so to teach the outward Lamb shews forth the inward Lamb. The SEED of the promise is an Holy and Spiritual Principle of Light Life and Power that being received into the Heart briuses the Serpents head and because the Seed which cannot be the Body viz. that was outwardly born of the Virgin is CHRIST as testify the Scriptures the Seed is one that Seed CHRIST and CHRIST GOD over all blessed for ever The Reader may see that it s not malice but that there is too much ground to suggest the Quakers unsoundness as to the foresaid Querie Q 5. That seed of Abraham to which the Promise was made that in him all the Nations of the Earth shall be blessed according to Gen. 22. 18. Gal. 3. 16 Was it not the Man CHRIST JESUS who according to the Flesh was the Son of Abraham and the Son of David Matt. 1. 1. A. We Answer affirmatively yea it was he and none else R. With this Orthodox Answer the Reader may compare what G. W. sayes in his Truth defending the Quakers it is Queried thus did Richard Hubberthorn will pag. 21. in writing that CHRISTS coming in the Flesh was but a Figure G. W. Answers could CHRIST have been said to have been transfigured if his coming in the Flesh had not been a Figure And in his Christian Quaker he positively denyes that CHRIST Consisted of visible Flesh and Bones pag. 139. 140. It is saith he both unscriptural and assurd to assert that JESUS CHRIST consisteth of a Human Body of Flesh and Bones how then can he be properly the Seed of Abraham and the Son of David I distinguish sayeth G. W. between considing and having CHRIST had visible Flesh and Bones but he did not consist of them as a Man hath a Coat or a Garment but he doth not consist of it Q. 6 Had not this Man a real Soul that was not the Godhead and a real Body also that was not the God-head A. We answer affirmatively yea he had both R. This Answer may be compared with what G. W. sayes in his Appendix to the Divinity of CHRIST aganist T. D. as to T. Ds telling us of the Son of GODs incarnation pag. 18. the creation of his Body and Soul the parts of that Nature he subsisted in note that Nature plainly denotes CHRIST's Manhood Nature that T. D. meant which had a created Body and Soul to this I say sayes G. W. if the Body and Soul of the Son of God were both created doth not this render him a fourth Person again where do the Scripture say that the Soul was created Q 7 Is not that outward Man who was born of the Virgin and suffered without the Gates of Jerusalem properly and truly the SON of GOD having no immediat FATHER but GOD. A. We Answer affirmatively and fully believe he is so R. This Answer to the seventh Querie being in all appearance sound and orthodox and agreeable to the sense of all sound Protestants if they have no secret reserved meaning in this and their other orthodox Answers wherein they dissent from the unsound Doctrine of some of their chief Teachers and therefore the Reader may be pleased to compare this their Answer with what W. P. saves in his serious Apologie page 146. viz. But that the outward Person that suffered without the gates of Jerusalem was properly the SON of GOD we utterly deny Is not this a plain contradiction to what A. J. c asserts And also W. P. in his Rejoinder pag 304 305 Say's that outward Person that suffered at Jerusalem was CHRIST by a M●tonomy of the thing containing having the name of the thing contained Q. 8. Is not JESUS CHRIST both GOD and Man and yet but one CHRIST so that his Godhead is not his Manhood though the Nature of his Manhood is most highly and wonderfully united to his Godhead A. We Answer affirmatively and fully believe the same R This Answer to the eight Querie the Reader may compare it with what one of their Antient Teachers Christopher Atkinson sayes in his Book called the Sword of the Lord drawn pag. 5. Your imagined GOD beyond the Stars and your carnal CHRIST is utterly denyed To say this CHRIST is GOD and Man in one Person is a Lie and G. W. sayes in his Book called the Life and Light c. pag. 39. As for