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A35717 Truth-triumphant in a dialogue between a Papist and a Quaker : wherein (I suppose) is made manifest, that quaking is the off-spring of popery : at least, the Papist and the Quaker, are (fratres uterini) both of one venter. Derby, Charles Stanley, Earl of, 1628-1672. 1671 (1671) Wing D1090B; ESTC R16515 10,629 18

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had not bowed to him nor Kissed him being as invisible as to outward prosperity as those 7000. in the days of Elias But when the time came for the appearance of those glorious Reformers of Religion and manners according to Gods appointment for to this God alone as it is in the Acts of the Holy Apostles Cap. 1. Ver. 7. The Times and the Seasons the Father hath put into his own Hands then did that wicked one this Roman Baal begin to be revealed whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his Mouth and abolish with the brightness of his coming Ver. 8. The 9. Ver. is applicable to your Baal in your false Miracles Signs and Lying wonders whereby you lie in wait to deceive the Ignorant and simple This person must be consumed and abolished even him as it is Ver. 9. whose coming is by the effectual working of Satan with all Power the Inquisition and their visible pretended infallibility and Signs and lying Wonders And God knows with such Signs and lying Wonders false Miracles c. Your Church is sufficiently fraught Ver. 11. is the consequence of the former recited Verses 8 9 and therefore God shall send them strong delusions that they shall believe Lies and this is verified every day that many among You otherwise Learned and wise enough do give themselves up to these strong delusions giving as great credit to your Legends as the Fables of one Winifred c. as to the Gospel it self I could add upon this Subject but I suppose what I have already said is sufficient to evidence unto you the Errors of Your ways and the Truth of Ours Papist I confess I am very much shaken by your Arguments and the next time we meet you may possibly obtain an entire Conquest over me Protest I am very glad it is come to this which is a kind of new Creation in us God having thus produced Light out of Darkness You having thus contrary to your intent sent me into the Bosome of the Church of England whereinto I hope you will likewise throw your self whereby we shall not be half but whole Brothers having one Father which is God one Mother the Church of England Jesus Christ the Saviour of the World being our Elder Brother In this confidence I dare call you Brother and Dear Brother fare you well for this time The CONCLUSION THe Dialogue thus finished I think it not amiss to say something concerning the first General Council that ever was in the Church of Christ you have the whole Story of it in the 15 Chap. of the Acts of the Holy Apostles I shall take notice that it was not called by the particular direction of any of the Apostles but that all of them did concur thereunto and this was doubtless the Method of the Christian Church during it's greatest Purity and Integrity and the truth is no other way could be used while the Church of Christ was under Persecution but in process of time when supreme powers did receive and protect the Christian Faith and that as the Scripture saith Kings and Queens were Nursing Fathers and Nursing Mothers of the Spouse of Christ then were general Councils summon'd by them and by them were these Councils left to their free Debates and determinations whose Decrees were afterwards confirm'd by the Supreme Authorities whereby those Decrees which before such a Confirmation did only oblige the Conscience had then the Coercive Power of the State to compell their Observation and this Method did continue till the Usurpation of the Bishop of Rome upon all Powers both Civil and Ecclesiastical for he now takes upon him to assume unto himself the power of calling Councils of presiding in them and Confirming their Decrees saying that without His Confirmation they are invalid Thus does he make his own Will to be of more Authority than a General Council and this same Will of his to be Superior to all Supreme Powers and Authorities whatsoever But I shall add no more upon this Subject but proceed to what I at first proposed in the beginning hereof where I shall take notice of some things in the 15 th Chap. of the Acts of the Holy Apostles where we reade of the first General Council that ever was in the Church of Christ and therefore most likely to be a direction for all others It was occasioned by an Appeal made by some Converte● Gentiles to this General Council for some Pharisaical Christians would impose upon these Converted Gentiles the whole Law of Moses therefore to this General Council they do appeal the words of the Council are these Ver. 23. of this 15. Chap. The Apostles and Elders and Brethren send Greeting unto the Brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia 24. Forasmuch as We have heard that certain which went out from Us have troubled You with Words subverting Your Souls saying Ye must be Circumcised and keep the Law to whom We gave no such Commandment 25. It seemed good unto Us being Assembled with one accord to send chosen Men unto You with Our beloved Barnabas and Paul 26. Men that have hazarded their Lives for the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ 27. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas who shall also tell you the same things by word of mouth 28. For it seemed good to the Holy-Ghost and to Us to lay upon You no greater Burthen than these necessary things 29. That Ye abstain from Meats offered to Idols and from Blood and from things Strangled and from Fornication from which if ye keep your selves ye shall do well fare ye well These be the words together We shall now take them into parts The Apostles and Elders and Brethren There is no Primacy in St. Peter or in any body else either first as to calling this Council or Secondly In degree it self or Thirdly by way of Confirming this Decree of the Council Apostles Elders and Brethren are all alike concerned Send Greeting unto the Brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch Syria and Cilicia Now here I cannot but take notice that the Church of Jerusalem treats the Churches of Antioch c. not with a Maternal but a Fraternal Appellation not like the Church of Rome certainly if ever any had been the Mother-Church it must have been that of Jerusalem St. Peter and all the rest of the Apostles yea even a General Council there residing which makes her self the Mother-Church and all others she will have to be esteemed but Her Children and yet in this General Council St. Peter was present as appears by the 7. Verse of this 15. Chap. and yet St. Peter does not pronounce any Judgment contenting himself rather with relating matter of Fact and Paul and Barnabas do the same as it is Ver. 11. But the Apostle St. James proceeds further in Ver. 13 14 15 16 17 18. and in the 19. Ver. is very bold saying Wherefore my sentence is that we trouble not them which from among the Gentiles are turned to God and Ver. 20. He proceeds But that we here St. James is equal with St. Peter or any of the rest write unto them that they abstain from pollutions of Idols and from Fornication and from things strangled and from Blood And to this Sentence of St. James the whole Council acquiesces not any one speaking after St. James Forasmuch as certain which went out from Us have troubled you with words subverting your Souls saying Ye must be Circumcised and keep the Law to whom We not St. Peter alone gave no such Commandment it seemed good unto Us being assembled with one accord This Council you see was not called by St. Peter alone to send chosen men unto You with our beloved Barnabas and Paul Men that have hazarded their Lives for the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ We have sent therefore Judas and Silas who shall also tell you the same things by word of Mouth for it seemed good to the Holy-Ghost and to Us you see the Holy-Ghost is not tyed to St. Peter's or the Pope's Chair nor the Colledg of Cardinals but remaining with the General Council To lay upon you no heavier burthen than these necessary things that ye abstain from Meats offer'd to Idols from Blood and from things strangled and from Fornication all this the Sentence of and Opinion of St. James delivered to the Council and thus approved of by the Council from which if ye keep your selves ye shall do well fare ye well I have thus run over the words of this first General Council with some few Animadversions thereon and if therein I have done the Church of Christ any Service I have my aim and do retun unto him all Honour and Glory for His assistance herein by whom I have been hereunto enabled To the Holy Trinity Father Son and holy-Holy-Ghost be all Honour and Glory now and for ever Amen FINIS