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A30710 A narrative of the proceedings of the commissioners appointed by O. Cromwell, for ejecting scandalous and ignorant ministers, in the case of Walter Bushnell, clerk, Vicar of Box in the county of Wilts wherein is shewed that both commissioners, ministers, clerk, witnesses have acted as unjustly even as was possible for men to do by such a power, and all under the pretence of godliness and reformation. Bushnell, Walter, 1609-1667.; Chambers, Humphrey, 1598 or 9-1662. Answer of Humphrey Chambers ... to the charge of Walter Bushnell. 1660 (1660) Wing B6256; ESTC R6388 126,592 274

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conclude him to be guilty of the crime and I shall tell him further that I have read of such a one yea and a good one too heretofore Master thus saying thou reproachest us also where you may observe that the Lawyer freely acknowledgeth himself guilty of those crimes which our Blessed Saviour there reproves and yet the impudent proud thing counts himself slandered or reproached in that he is told of them section 33 We have no more to say touching the Depositions which were taken at this time But yet for a Conclusion to the Transactions of this day give me leave to observe a few things unto thee 1. That the Deposition of Mary Workman who was examined upon all the Articles and that Deposition carefully taken for said Mr. Blisset she was a Midwife and so might know much is wholly left out section 19 2. I told thee before that Obadiah Cheltenham then thwarted with a witnesse which was this Mary Workman he then affirming when she had denyed it that I had within a quarter of a year signed two Children with the sign of the Crosse she holding them in her arms which he said were the Children of Mr. Speke and Mr. Snell This made the poor woman amazed considering that Obadiah Cheltenham being sworn with her self but a little before to speak the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth and she rightly conceiving that the same Oath bound him still all the while he was before these Commissioners and speaking to my businesse I say it made her amazed that he should swear that I signed two Children within a quarter of a year when as one of those Children Mr. Speke's was Baptized Octob 28. 1653. and almost a year older then the Ordinance by which these Commissioners sate and acted Another Circumstance for Mr. Blisset section 34 Nor must it be forgotten that at such time as William Pinchin was giving in his Testimony touching my use of the Form of Common Prayer he having informed that I began with the Lords Prayer and afterward read some Psalms Mr. Byfield asks him whether after the end of the Psalms I said Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Ghost He then asked likewise whether after I had Baptized Children I said Forasmuch as this Childe is regenerate I remember not what Answer William Pinchin made to one or other But to me Mr. Byfield seems to intimate by his Questions that it should have been matter of Charge against me if I had used either I assure thee Reader that this made me wonder And what may there be in that Doxology that should offend Mr. Byfield the thing it self and is it a crime to give glory to the Blessed Trinity or will he be angry with us because we say as the Heavenly Host did Glory to God in the Highest Were we not all Baptized in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost Which I conceive to mean more then Beza's Invocato nomine Dei Patris c. and to import as much as to devote our selves unto or to resign our selves up to the service of the Blessed Trinity And are we charged for this that we now make publique profession of it or was it disliked by him because looked upon now as altogether uselesse it being composed by the Council of Nice in confutation of the Heresie of Arrius But now what if I should prove it to be more ancient then that Council and formerly put to another use and that those Fathers did not so much constitute as quote it and quote it thereby to overthrow the Blasphemy of the Arrian because it was contrary to that Doxology which was appointed in the Apostolical and Primitive times But yet admitting that Heresie to have been the cause of it is it therefore now a crime such a crime as may deserve ejectment to continue it is our Field our Church so free from those Tares is the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity so sincerely taught and believed and so unanimously Tell me you Reformers have you never since you began your Reformation heard of some that have pluckt off no lesse then two of three of the persons of the Blessed Trinity stripping one of his Being another of his Deity and indeed had I not found it by experience I should not have believed it that the use of this Doxology should be imputed to a Minister as a crime or that a man should be reputed scandalous for this because he made publique profession that he was no Arrian section 35 And as touching Mr. Byfields next Query Whether I said forasmuch as this Childe is regenerate I answer that I believe that Mr. Byfield had small minde to ingage himself or me in any of the publique Schools on that Question touching Baptismal Regeneration possibly he might have read what Dr. Burges and Mr. Bedford have said upon the same Argument yea even Mr. Baxter himself doubts not but that Baptisme is an Instrument of relative Regeneration and Sanctification But to put this matter as to Mr. Byfield out of doubt In that Confession of Faith set out by the Assembly whereunto there was no doubt Mr. Byfields consent and approbation as well as his hand we have these words Baptisme is a Sacrament of the New Testament ordained by Jesus Christ not only for the solemn admission of the party baptized into the Visible Church but also to be unto him a Sign and Seal of the Covenant of Grace of his ingrafting into Christ of Regeneration Doth Mr. Byfield under his hand acknowledge it to be a Sign and Seal of Regeneration and yet is it in his judgement a crime in me to say so If it be among men when once a man hath put to his Sign and Seal the person so ingaging as to all purposes and Covenants expressed in that Instrument stands obliged to make them good and the person to whom the Grant is made will from that day rest himself assured of his Bargain because he hath it under hand and Seal And dares any say that the Covenant of God is not Authentick when as he hath put his Sign and Seal to it and if it be Authentick can it be a fault in a Minister to publish so much I shall sum up all into an Argument thus Baptisme is a Sign and Seal of Regeneration to Infants of Believing Parents But the Childe or Children by me Baptized were such Therefore it is a Sign and Seal of Regeneration to them Mr. Byfield hath under his hand acknowledged the major Proposition and the minor he dares not deny and yet he was angry with me for inferring and pronouncing the Conclusion Certainly his Spleen conceived against the Liturgy had now so far prevailed upon him that in his Passion he forgets what he had formerly written and published for Orthodox So that me thinks Mr. Byfield might have then done as did one of whom I have heard heretofore