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A87006 Truth and innocency, prevailing against error and insolency: wherein is examined and discovered these following particulars. I. Whether Baptism be sprinkling or dipping. II. Whether the subject to be baptised, be infants or believers. III. Whether the punishment of original sin, be the first or second death. IV. Whether man be in an immortal estate before the resurrection. V. As touching the resurrection, whether these bodies of ours shall rise again & be made immortal, or whether it will be another body. VI. Of Gods love to the whole lump of mankind make known. VII. Of the personal raign of our blessed saviour upon Earth ... by way of answer to Mr. Hezekiah Holland, sometimes preacher at Sutton-Valence in Kent ... a second part: wherein is proved, that all the laws and statutes of King Jesus ... are practicable ... with many objections answered. It being an answer to one Mr. Simon Hendon of Benenden in Kent. / By George Hammon, Pastor to the church of Christ in Biddenden, Kent. Hammon, George. 1660 (1660) Wing H505; Thomason E1022_4; ESTC R208505 201,438 228

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confirm it again when Israel came out of Babylon nor after the Book of the Law was lost and found again in the dayes of Josia no more need we any Sign to confirm that which is already confirmed and also we know that John did no Miracle and yet was an approved Administrator Again whereas Mr. Henden said that he was a legal Minister and a Minister of condemnation which had no visible demonstration from the spirit viz. Miracle The answer was then Mr. Henden was a legal one and a Minister of condemnation because he professeth himself to be a Minister and yet never work a Miracle that ever I heard of there was much time spent upon a kind of running discourse to little edification for that which I would have had done in order to the legal managing of the discourse was that there should have been one question stated at a time and that managed but when one began he spoke of several things and so confounded one with another and cleared it not as it should be I could repeat what was said about the four Winds and what was said by Captain Tucker as to the grounding of faith upon the obscure and dark Prophesies which was well minded although not well weighed by our Antagonist and as I think as little understood I have found it a sure maxime that the greatest confidence amongst men hath the least reason to warrant it which is sad And whereas Hebrews 12. was brought together with Galatians 4. to prove the Church to be called Mount-Zion neither of the places proveth it the Apostle to the Galatians tels us that it is the Covenant which is called Jerusalem which is from above and from the Hebrews we learn also that it is the Covenant or the thing Covenanted and whereas he saith that we are come to Mount-Zion he also saith that we are come to an innumerable company of Angels and to God the Judge of all things and the Spirits of just men made perfect so that we are come to one as well as to another and to neither of them but by faith in the Covenant for while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord for we walk by faith and not by sight And Paul doth not say to the Galatians that ye are Mount-Zion or Jerusalem but Jerusalem which is from above is the Mother of us all so then it was the Church which was called Jerusalem but Jerusalem from above was the Churches Mother mark a difference between the Children and the Mother and secondly the Author to the Hebrews doth not call the Church of the Hebrews Mount-Zion but tels them that they were come to Mount-Zion viz. the Covenant of Mount-Zion and the Heavenly Jerusalem but I shall leave these things at present and pass to the Answer of some Objections usually urged against the perpetuation of Christs Ordinances or the constant practising of them and the first that I shall speak to is Object 1. There was a time when God did appear in his Ordinances which shewed there was the power of the Spirit went along with them as Peter in his Ministry in converting three thousand souls at one Sermon saith Mr. John Henden but now we see not the same effects therefore the cause ceaseth God hath left them and they are become as a dead carkass without a soul Answ It is very true there was a time when there was such need of a visible demonstration of Gods Spirit to go along with his Ordinances to bear witness to the sons of men that they were the Ordinances that were approved of by the Lord that they might be a pattern or platform for all men to walk in to the Worlds end and hence it was that when God gave to Moses and the rest of the Children of Israel the pattern of the administration of the Law he gave it with the visible demonstration of his own presence with thundrings and lightenings and the Mountain smoaking with a visible maifestation of Gods glory with and upon Moses so that his face did so shine with the Glory of God when he came from the Mount that the Children of Israel could not stedfastly behold him by reason of the brightness of the Glory of God shining upon him this was his appearance when he came down with the Tables of the Law written by God so gloriously did God appear in the giving forth of it but afterwards all that the Children of Israel were to do was to have the words of the Law read to them and they to do it or keep it and not to say who shall ascend up into Heaven for some visible demonstration but the Law is nigh thee in thy mouth and in thy heart that thou maist do it saith Moses Deut. 30.10 11 12. even so saith St. Paul Rom. 10.6 7. The righteousness of faith speaks on this wise say not in thy heart who shall ascend up into Heaven to fetch Christ down from above c. but what saith it the word is nigh thee even in thy mouth and in thy heart So that true faith giveth heed to Gods word and looks not for miracles for so saith Christ blessed is he that hath not seen and yet believed for a sinful and an adulterous generation seek a sign but none shall be given unto them c. Secondly If no Ordinance may be an approved Ordinance of God but such an one as hath a visible manifestation according to Mr. Hendens sense as aforesaid then he himself never met together so as God did approve of it because we find that when the Disciples met together the house spoke where they were assembled Thirdly his Ordinance of preaching hath not the Spirit with it because instead of converting three thousand at one Sermon I suppose he never converted three hundred in his life nor scarce half half so many and as for the Ordinance of Prayer I never heard any of those that usually hear Mr. Henden say that he hath prayed till the place hath spoke where he was praying as it did when the Disciples were a Praying Acts 4.31 and as for the Ordinance of Preaching and praying and the like Mr. Henden saith he owns to continue in all ages uncorrupted and they had once as great a visible manifestation as any Ordinance that I know of and yet there is no more appearance in a visible manifestation in them now than there is in any other Ordinance which Mr. Henden cryeth down and I may fitly say to Mr. Henden as Christ said to the Scribes and Pharisies which did much dote upon signs and miracles that the Kingdome of Heaven cometh not with Observations as gadding after miracles saying loe here or loe there for the Kingdome of God is within you that is as if he should have said it consists more in inward glory than outward glory or manifestation for the Kings daughter is all glorious within and the proper work of the Spirit is within as Christ
from the Prophets to witness it but further you may see that there will be a Temple although not the union of the sealed number as Mr. Henden supposed which hath been already answered but a material Temple as saith St. Paul 2 Thes 2.4 He viz. the man of Sin or Antichrist shall sit in the Temple of God shewing himself that he is God But if the Temple be to be understood to discypher the Mistical union of the one hundred forty and four thousand as Mr. Henden saith then it is impossible that the Man of Sin should sit there for they are not to be hurt and that connot be said to be the Temple of God in a spiritual sense which is the seat of the Man of Sin but in a material Temple it hath been so already and will be so again for saith Christ It is written my House should be a House of Prayer but ye have made it a den of thiefs And secondly that there is to be a Temple is also proved from Revel 15.8 in these words And the Temple was filled with smoak from the glory of God from his power and no MAN was able to enter into the TEMPLE till the seven plagues of the seven Angels were fulfilled From hence we see that there shall be a material Temple which shall be so filled with Gods glory that no MAN shall enter into it until the plagues of the seven Vials be executed and so Christ by the brightness of his coming and excellent glory shall dispossess the Man of Sin of his seat and that the glory of God did shine so of old in his Temple read the words of the Prophet Isa 6 4. Ezek. 10.4 And secondly that the glory of the Lord is to appear or fill his House or material Temple Again read Ezek. 43.5 6 7. in these words So the Spirit took me up and brought me into the inner Court and behold the glory of the Lord filled the House and I heard him speaking unto me out of the House and the man stood by me and he said unto me Son of man the place of my Throne and the place of the sole of my feet where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for EVER and my holy Name shall the House of Israel no more defile Agreeable to Chap. 37.21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28. as you may read at large I could give many reasons more to prove a material Temple and elsewhere I have done it But if it should be objected That God doth not dwell in Temples made with hands I answer and say it is very true that the Temple of Jerusalem they had defiled with their abominations and therefore the Lord destroyed it and for a while took unto himself the instruments of a foolish Shepheard Zech. 11.15 and so was a Gin and a Snare to the House of Israel and so the litteral Zion was to be plowed like a field and Jerusalem to become a heap but it doth nor say that Christ will never dwell in Temples or a Temple made with hands nor that he will never dwell in Mount-Zion litteral in Jerusalem but contrariwise saith in many places that he will come unto his Temple and dwell in Mount-Zion in Jerusalem as I before have proved read the place of Christs Kingly seat in the time of his Reign in my Treatise to Mr. Holland annexed to this I could prove that the Lord will have his seat there at large and that when his Tabernacle shall be with men and his seat where his Father Davids was that then it is to be in material Jerusalem when the Law shall go forth of Zion and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem and this was the City and Altar and Temple which was to be measured and the Worshipers which was therein namely the Jews which were to return and at that time shall be returned unto their own Land where they shall worship God according to Moses Law waiting for their Messiah Thirdly what is to be understood by the outward Court not measured or cast out or left out as in reference to measurement it is that after the Israelites be returned before they have finished their outward Courts and walls and the like for their great care and first work shall be upon the chief and principal place viz. their City and Temple the Gentiles namely Gogg the Prince of Meshech and Tubal whose Army shall be of them of Persia Ethiopia and Libia with Gomer and the Family of Togarmah a very great Army of the North Quarters shall be gathered together upon the Mountains of Israel and shall prevail and spoil the Jews for a small season and this shall be done before the outward Court and walls be finished which causeth the Army of the Gentiles to call Jerusalem a Town of unwalled Villages being without Bars and Gates as you may read Ezek. 38.11 in these words And thou shalt say I will go up to the Land of VNWALLED VILLAGES I will go to them that are at rest that dwell safely all of them dwelling without WALS having neither BARS nor GATES to take a spoil to take a prey c. And to this agreeth the words of the Prophet Zecha 2.1 2 3 4 9. which saith I lift up mine eyes again and looked and behold a man with a MEASVRING LINE in his hand Then said I whither goest thou and he said unto me to measure Jerusalem to see what is the breaàth thereof and what is the length thereof And behold the Angel that talked with me went forth and another Angel went out to meet him and said unto him run speak to the young man saying Jerusalem shall be inhabited as a TOWN without WALS c. From these Scriptures and more that might be added we may see that the Walls and outward Court shall not be finished till it is taken and the holy City trod under foot but the time of its oppression is so short as not worth speaking of in comparison of time namely three years and a half so that this Prophet speaks little of the oppression of Israel but doth as it were overlook it because the time of it is so short and speaks of that which is of the greatest moment namely the Enemies destruction but the Prophet Zechariah agreeing with the Revelations sheweth that the City shall for a small time be surprised and taken and the Jews persecuted although the City it self shall not be destroyed but shall be the place of the Enemies Randesvouz and that this is true read the words of the Prophet Daniel compared with Zechariah which saith He shall enter also into the glorious Land and many Countries shall be overthrown but these shall escape out of his hands even EDOM and MOAB and the CHIEF OF THE CHILDREN OF AMMON and he shall plant the Tabernacle of his Pallace between the Seas in the glorious holy mountain yet he shall come to his end and none shall help him And at that time
chap. 19.19 20. compared with Daniel where he is called a vile Person with the Thessalonians where he is called the Man of Sin in Ezekiel where he is called Gogg and again with Daniel where he is called the little Horn and a King of a fierce countenance understanding dark sentences who shall speak miraculous things against the God of Gods denying all that is called God and worshipped siting in the Temple of God shewing himself that he is God and the signs and wonders spoken of in the Text is those miracles spoken of in Dan. 8.25 Revel 13.13 14 15 16. chap. 16.14 chap. 19.20 and more that might be added I shall only speak but a little to it more because I have spoken of it more at large in my book intituled Zions Redemption Original Sin wherein also I have shewn the difference between the Romish Babylon the Antichrist shewing them to be two one different from the other But at present I say that the cause of these false Christs working signs and wonders will be to deceive the elect viz. the Jews who are commonly called in Scripture the elect that it is that people namely the Jews which he will endeavour to deceive read Dan. 11. ult chap. 12.1 2 7. Zech. 14.1 2 3. And his Throne shall be in Jerusalem amongst the Jews as I have before proved and the Jews looking for Jesus to come according to Daniels and Isaiah's Prophesie which saith Dan. 7.10 Fiery streams issued and come forth from before him thousand thousands ministred unto him c. and the Man of Sin or the false Christ shall have thousand thousands to minister unto him For his Army shall be very great and that he may also have fiery streams issue before him that he may make the Jews believe that he is the true Christ and thereby if it were possible deceive the Jews viz. the elect he causeth fire to come down from Heaven in the sight of men to deceive them that live upon the face of the earth Revel 13.13 at which time the two Prophets shall begin their Prophesie that they may establish the Jews in the Testimony of Jesus and they shall work miracles indeed such as shall destroy all the former ones wrought by the false Christ like as Moses and Aarons Rod eat up the Rods of the Magicians in Egypt and as the false Christ shall have a false Prophet or false Prophets that shall bear their Testimony for the false Christ who will practise lying signs and wonders even so the true Christ shall have two witnesses or Prophets who in truth uprightness shal bear their Testimony for the true Christ who not long after will descend upon the Mount of Olives Zech. 14.4 which true Prophets shall as aforesaid do such things and miracles that shall not only eat up or destroy the other that were false but shall be a sore punishment to the Beast and false Prophet and all that have received his mark in their hand or fore-head that these Prophets and things shall stand up and be done in the very end of time as I may say is clear read the fore mentioned Prophets and compare them together and you shall see it to be true althought I do not deny but there may have been some things done in the World already like it in one sense or another but the fulfilling of these Prophets are to be expired very near the second and glorious coming of the Lord Jesus thus I shall pass to the second thing fore mentioned which is The Desart or secret Chamber I understand is his viz. the false Christ confining himself to a private place to that end that he may be the more sought after and adored for the more privately he contains himself the more he will be sought after for mens fa●cies are set much upon novelties hence the certain GREEK sought to see Jesus John 12.20 And many have a desire to see great ones and more especially if they be confined to privacy but if he be publick he may pass again and again and not be so sought after because they then can see and confer with him when they please Secondly It is a great means to deceive for those that are admitted to see his majesty it 's a thousand to one if they be not deceived partly by doting upon his majesty and partly by going contrary to Gods Word gadding in their minds after vanity and to this end he confines himself to secresie into secret places at his first coming but saith Christ behold I have told you before go not after HIM this brings me to the third particular which is his reason why they shall not go to see a Christ in a Desart or secret Chamber which is Thirdly because saith Christ as the lightening cometh out of the East and shineth even unto the West or from one end of Heaven to the other so shall also the coming of the Son of man be The lightening I understand to be the Sun which lighteneth the Earth rising in the East and shining even unto the West or from one end of Heaven to the other as Luke hath it but if so be that some should understand this lightening as comits or common lightening which is usual in hot wether and in times of thunder and the like It cannot be so understood because that such lightening cometh as often out of the South and West and somtimes North as out of the East and also is so far from being seen from the East even unto the West that somtimes it is seen to be tempestuous lightening wether in one neighbouring Land and not in another and in one County and not in another if not in one parish somtimes and not in another but this lightening shineth from the East even to the West from one end of Heaven unto another the which is to be understood the Sun in the Firmament which lighteneth the earth even from the East unto the West The Scripture discovering her rising in the East and shining unto the West and the glory of the Lord seen like unto the rising of the Sun that shineth into the West and filleth the earth with her light and glory Isa 45.6 chap. 59.19 But let it be the Sun in the Firmament or other lightening yet the matter lyeth here that Jesus Christs coming is not in obscurity but as a light that cometh out of the East and shineth unto the West or shineth from one end of Heaven to another the sequel of the matters is that the Christ that is to be seen in a Desart or secret Chamber namely in a private place is far from being the true Christ that they need not say when the true Christ comes let us go here or there namely into a Desart or secret Chamber or Mountain to see him but he shall be seen at once as the Sun that riseth in the East and is seen by all even to the West without going into Desarts or Chambers or