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A41462 A winter-evening conference between neighbours in two parts. Goodman, John, 1625 or 6-1690. 1684 (1684) Wing G1129; ESTC R15705 135,167 242

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eternal salvation become so trivial a thing that we should be unconcerned about it Do we yield the Cause to these half-witted Profligates Do we acknowledge the Gospel to be indeed ridiculous or do we confess our selves the veriest Cowards in the World and judge our selves unworthy of eternal life For shame let us be so far from being either cow'd or byass'd by such examples that we resolve to make better where we cannot find them Why should we think so meanly of our selves as to follow only and not to lead In a word Why may not we begin a good fashion rather than fall in with a bad one Besides I perswade my self this will be no very hard thing to do if we consider the Authority and Majesty of sincere and generous piety and the guilt and base spiritedness of Vice and prophaneness if we be soft and timorous that grows rampant and intolerable but if Vertue shine out in its own rays it dazzles and baffles all those Birds of Night If men will be perswaded to assert their own Principles manfully to talk of God worthily and couragiously the veriest Russians will presently be gagged and tongue-tyed as in Conjurations they say name but God and the Devil vanishes so enter resolutely into pious Conference and it will presently lay all the Oaths and blasphemies and scurrilous talk of those desperate Wretches And by the way this is the most gentile and also the most effectual way of reproving that kind of persons namely to deal with them as Scholars deal by one another when any one speaks false Latine they only repeat it after him in true Latine and as it ought to be so here let us speak right things of God when they speak amiss and there needs no more to damp them they will either turn on your side and speak as you do or leave the Field to you This this Philander therefore is the only way to mend the World and without this it will hardly ever be done It is not good Books and Preaching that will retund a prophane humour for such persons will either not read and hear them or not consider them nor is it Prayer and Fasting too that will cast out this deaf but not dumb Devil But when good men are as bold as evil men are impudent I mean as openly good as the other are bad when piety is daring and if you will pardon the expression Hectors lewdness out of countenance then I say the World will if not grow devout yet at least grow modest and civil towards Religion when vertuous men give evidence that they believe themselves when they demonstrate that the Kingdom of God is not in word only but in power when their Principles and pretensions appear in their Spirit their Discourses their whole Life and Conversation when they continually breathe of God and of Heaven And to say no more by this course also a man shall gain a worthy reputation and esteem to himself for whereas a bashful pusilanimous complying humour that will crouch to a debauch for fear of offence and faulter and mince the matter of prophaneness to curry favour with lewd men shall be despised and trodden down by every body A brave generous Assertor of his Principles and of God's honour that fills the place and Company where he is with the sweet odours of piety and devotion procures himself a veneration where-ever he goes he looks like Moses when he came out of the Mount his face shines and all men see a glory about him insomuch that those that cannot find in their hearts to imitate him yet cannot chuse but reverence and admire him Phil. I think your mind is an inexhaustible Fountain of Arguments on this Subject Every occasion affords you a fresh tide of Eloquence either you have very much studied this Point or it is wonderfully pregnant of its own proofs For my own part I cannot bear up against you I confess I thought when we first entred on this Particular it was impossible that I should ever be of your opinion therein but now I am so far from having any thing material to object that I protest I am clearly satisfied that it would be a very wise thing and well worthy of our endeavours to bring it into use and practice I mean as much as possibly we can to exclude idle Tales and Drollery out of our Converse or at least to confine them to a narrower compass and so to make way for this great affair of Religion But yet let me tell you though you have convinced me you have not silenced others there are those will elude the Arguments they cannot answer and expose what they are resolved not to comply withal They will say This talking of Religion is a Mountebank trick to impose upon the people that it is a design of vain-glory or an artifice to seem better than we are They will tell you that sincerely good men use to be modest and silent and to enjoy their sense of piety in secret In short when you have said all you can to recommend this way of Conversation they will say it is no better than Puritanism or Phanaticism and having affixed such a name upon it they will run both you and it down presently Sebast Hearty thanks Dear Phil for putting me in mind of that danger which otherwise I should not have been aware of I acknowledge I am so far unskilled in the World that I was apt to think it was sufficient to a Cause to be back'd with good Proofs and that when a business had recommended it self to the reason and conscience of men the work was done I little thought men must be wheedled into a compliance with their own judgments and much less that they would be so disingenuous towards themselves as to put a cheat upon their own senses nor did I sufficiently consider the power of Names to make good evil and evil good and that the best thing in the World may be run down by the mere blast of an odious Nick-name Lord what a venemous breath hath Common Fame that it can change the nature of things What an huge Leviathan is vulgar Opinion that it should be able to oppose it self to the best reason of Mankind and to God Almighty too If this be so who would exercise their understanding or dare to propound any generous thing to the World and not rather set himself adrift to run with the Tide But yet this comforts me that it looks like a Confession of the insuperable strength of my Arguments when men resort to such subterfuges It is a sign they dare not encounter me on the Square that use such foul play and that men are destitute of reason when they betake themselves to libels and reproaches Let us then resume a little courage it may be we shall conquer at last because our Adversaries despair of an honourable Victory That which I contend for you know is this That it becomes men to take all fit and