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A00627 Fennes frutes vvhich vvorke is deuided into three seuerall parts; the first, a dialogue betweene fame and the scholler ... The second, intreateth of the lamentable ruines which attend on vvarre ... The third, that it is not requisite to deriue our pedegree from the vnfaithfull Troians, who were chiefe causes of their owne destruction: whereunto is added Hecubaes mishaps, discoursed by way of apparition. Fenne, Thomas. 1590 (1590) STC 10763; ESTC S102003 182,190 232

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pronounce and declare in his owne behalfe saying Plus ego togatus quàm armati decem I did saith he more by my counsell in the Senat than ten armed men in the field And in maintaining of his argument he further said Dux Agamemnon Greciae nunquam optat vt Aiacis similes decem habeat at vt Nestoris quandoque We neuer reade saith he that Agamemnon the chiefe ringleader and Captaine of the Greekes did euer wish that he had ten strong and forcible men like to Aiax but sometime hee would wish that he had ten prudent and wise Counsellers like to prouident Nestor And according to the opinion of learned Cicero prouident wisdome and circumspect carefulnesse is rather to be expected in graue and aged yeares than in greene and youthfull heads For in his booke de Senectute he doeth alleadge these authorities Apud Lacedemonios quidem ij qui amplissimum magistratum gerunt vt sunt sic etiam nominantur senes Amongst the auncient Lacedemonians saith he those which did beare any high authoritie were called aged Fathers as indeede they were otherwise they coulde not bee admitted to such offices And againe vpon the same occasion he saith thus Quod silegere aut audire voletis externa maximas respublicas ab adolescentibus labefactatas a senibus sustentatas reperietis If saith he either ye will reade or heare outward and forraine examples ye shall finde that great Common-wealthes and mightie Kingdomes haue fallen and decayed thorow young mens gouernment and againe how they haue bene vpholden and maintained by the graue gouernement of olde men When the Romanes were thorowly wearied by the wilfull rawnes of their youthfull Captaines buying experience by their dayly sufferance with extreame losses and lamentable slaughters of their people then in the ende for redres thereof they al with one consent constituted and made a decrée that if any Captaine or Leader in time of warre should vnadvisedly or sodainly set on the enemie without the consent or appointment of the Centurion or Captaine generall yea although he vtterly vanquished and ouerthrewe the aduersarie yet notwithstanding his ouer rash attempt and wilful boldnes should as gréeuously be punished as if he had bene enemie to his countrey for that Fortune might as well haue caught their folly as fauoured their rash enterprise Pap. Curtius being Dictator commanded that F. Rutilius master of his horsmen should be beaten with rods after beheaded for fighting against his commandement though he had the victory Neither would Papirius forgeue the punishment at the intercession of the Souldiers and when as he Hed to Rome he also pursued him neither would he there remit the dreadfull punishment vntill that Fabius and his father fell down on their knees and that also the Senat and people made intercession for him Manlius caused his sonne which against his commandement had fought with his enemy that had chalenged him though he got the victorie to be beaten with rods and haue his head stricken of Thus the Romans preuented many miseries which otherwise might haue hapned to their cōmō sorow heauines I would not it should be thought I altogether disalow yong captains condenming them al with vnaduised iudgement as the Emperor of Greece did the young ambassadors of Athens to be either rash wilful or foolish hardy or voyd of any good gouernment for then should I speak fondly and vnaduisedly in ouer rashly condemning their secrete vnknowen qualities When diuers of the aged Consuls graue leaders with other worthie Captaines of great experience of Rome were slaine in the Carthaginian war and that the whole Romane Empire did shake for feare hauing none left aliue vnto whom they might trust in this perilous warre to fight against so subtile and craftie a foe as Hanniball was who before had slaine such a mightie number of their worthy men Thus being in such perplexitie lamenting sore their distressed state and fearing the present subuersiō of their Citie then in this their great extremitie yong P. Cornelius Scipio the sonne of that Scipio which before was slaine in Spaine in the same warre by the Carthaginians being but three and twenty yeares olde earnestlie craued of the Senate that he might haue the office and authoritie to fight against wily Hanniball who had done them such high displeasure and made their whole state so pensiue and sad not doubting but to be reuenged on their enemies for their forepassed crueltie But the distressed Romanes seeing the tender yeares of the young Gentleman were doubtfull to committe such a waighty cause into his hande some of them speaking against his yeares as a man not alowable in such extremitie and againe some for that his father and uncle were both slaine in the same warre wherefore said they it is greatly to be feared considering his youthfull yeares and also the death of his Father least that he should be ouer rash in seeking speedy reuenge to his owne perill and their losse Notwithstanding the graue Senators wisely considering on the cause seeing the willingnes of the young man and his wittie Oration vttered there before them all at the same time committed their whole state into his hande who gouerned it with such wise policie and carefull foresight that he did not onely match the worthy Hannibal but also draue him out of Italie Spaine who before had viewed the Roman walles minding foorthwith to haue taken their citie forcing him also to flie into his countrey of Affrica and at the last home to the very walles of Carthage where he vtterly vanquished him seising on the whole Empire of Carthage to the vse of the Romanes Thus when the graue and valiant captaines were some slaine some put to flight and other some not daring to incounter with such a victorious Captaine as Hanniball was the yong Scipio by his manly valour wise policie and circumspect leading of his army both fréeed his Countrie from such a perillous enemie and also made the stately Empire of Carthage subiect to the Romanes to the great glorie and renowne of his Countrie and to the euerlasting remembrance of his name In like sorte Alexander the great the most famous Captaine and leader that euer liued was but twentie yeares olde when he ouerthrewe most mightie Kings and strong Princes with a very small number therefore wisedome and pollicie consisteth not in gray haires nor victorie altogether dependeth in olde age notwithstanding youth ought to haue a speciall care to ground all their actions vpon temperance with an open eare to sage aduise and wise counsaile and then no doubt victorie will not altogether consist and depend on fickle fortune But before I proceede any further to shewe the calamities and miseries of ruinous warre it shall not séeme amisse to shew what subtile sleights wise policies and cunning Stratagems haue beene in ancient time vsed to delude and mocke the enemie withall being also things very necessarie diligently to be noted in these our troublesome dayes