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A68474 Appello Cæsarem A iust appeale from two vniust informers· / By Richard Mountagu. Montagu, Richard, 1577-1641. 1625 (1625) STC 18031; ESTC S112844 144,688 352

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publish it according to the CANONS prescribed unto Ministers in such cases knowing it to be the resolved doctrine of Antiquity as I do I am not excusable if I transgresse the CANONS What your ignorance may pleade for you I cannot tell I leave it to them that must look unto it where you live if you offend as you are like enough to do if it come in your way But on the other side there are Texts of Scripture that seem at least to say and have been ever taken of Writers old and new to say that the soules of the Fathers that died before CHRIST were not there whereas now they be as S. IOHN 111. 13. No man hath ascended into Heaven IOHN XIV 3. I goe to prepare a place for you PSAL. XXIV 6. Lift up your heads O you gates and be you lift up you everlasting doors and the King of glory shall come in Which Text of that Psalme all Antiquity from IUSTINE MARTYR downeward doe expound of Heaven opened at the Ascension of our SAVIOUR according unto that which we daily professe in our English LITURGIE out of and with Saint AMBROSE When thou hadst overcome the sharpnes of death thou didst OPEN the Kingdome of HEAVEN to all Beleevers So Heb. IX 8. 12. The WAY unto the HOLIEST OF ALL was NOT YET MANIFEST while as the FIRST Tabernacle was standing and Heb. X. 20. Heb. XI 39 40 UPON these grounds and others that I now remember not it hath been the common received opinion of all the FATHERS Greek and Latin that the soules of the Righteous before CHRIST were not in the highest and most glorious Heavens locally which is also the opinion of BULLINGER PETER MARTYR HYPERIUS and others BUCER and MUSCULUS directly write that the Thief was the first who with CHRIST entred into Paradise Upon M. CALVIN it is imposed by many though injuriously that he thought no righteous soule did doth or can goe into Heaven before the generall resurrection but indeed he declineth the question of the place and for the state against the Popish LIMBUS averreth that in respect of genericall happinesse they before CHRIST enjoyed the same that they doe now but for accidentall beatitude and degrees of happinesse he putteth a difference and resolveth that even now they are in profectu untill the day of Doome untill which time they expect in atrijs the consummation of their beatitude CHRISTUS Sanctuarium Coeli ingressus ad consummationem usque saeculorum solus populi eminùs in atrio residentis vota ad DEUM defert Instit 111. 20. 10. If a man should presse his words as they will beare the soules of the Righteous and those now that dye in the LORD nedum of the Fathers before CHRIST are not yet in Heaven but I doe it not This is all he favoureth the opinion of all Antiquity that the soules of the FATHERS before CHRIST were not in COELO SUMMO ET GLORIOSO and yet I hope CALVIN did not maintaine Limbus Patrum ALL this groweth for crossing your newly invented Puritanicall conceit and direct depravation of an Article of our Creed the descent of our Saviour into Hell and in answer unto the Gagger in this point have I in this particular angred the generation of your fellow-brethren The Popish Gagger objected unto the Church of England this TENET that IESUS CHRIST descended not into Hell Unto whom the substance of my Answer was With what face or what forehead can he say that we teach so that in our Creed repeat it openly and ever in the Church professe it in plaine and expresse words that propose it in Baptisme interrogatorily unto God-fathers and God-mothers to be answered unto avowed and publickly beleeved that teach it in our Catechisme unto children that subscribe it in our Articles thus THAT as CHRIST died for us and was BURIED so ALSO it is to bee beleeved that HEWENT DOWNE INTO HELL Artic. 111 that have publickly defended it against Puritanicall opposition and lastly that with us more more really and to purpose doe beleeve it than the Church of ROME doth and those that accuse us of sacrilege for violating an Article of our CREED For they professe that CHRIST onely descended into the uppermost Region of Hell LIMBUS PATRUM really into the other parts and continents virtually onely or effectually in the power of his GOD-HEAD and his Passion Non descendit ad INFEROS reproborum ac in perpetuum damnatorum saith their grand Dictator THOMAS AQUINAS quoniam ex co nulla est redemptio igitur ad eum locum descendit qui vel sinus ABRAHAE vel communiter LIMBUS PATRUM appellatur But the truth is we are at some disadvantage with our Romish Adversaries For as every one through the greedinesse of gaine may write and print almost what hee will especially if it savor of the Lemannian Lake so every private fancy every wilfull opinion ignorant assertion and some blasphemous dotages cast forth by any man that is or hath been of our Confession or is any way divided in Communion from the Church of Rome and us both is by many men and most an end by our Adversaries cast upon the generall Tenent of all Protestants and more specially upon the Church of England though that Church in the generall and approved Doctrine thereof doe detest it more than the Church of Rome doth In this very point the manifold dreames of new refined spirits are made ours their little lesse than blasphemies made ours the tergiversations qualifications disturbing of senses from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 anima Shéol Hádes Inferi Infernus and what not made ours the toies trash fables of Pagans Poets Philosophers Magicians and who not of what not brought in to trouble and disturb our belief by some that faine would bee and yet are loth to be Puritans made ours The much urging of this Article not to be found in ancient Creeds not to have been taught or beleeved of the Eastern Churches not of that of Constantinople I know not what else tending to make men first waver in their faith then to doubt of their faith and at length flatly to deny their faith if in this why not in other Articles that eyther are or may bee so serupulized all made ours laid unto our charge by our adversary and made the publick Doctrine of OUR Church So the blasphemy of CHRISTOPHER CARLILE that made this Article an Error and a Fable pag. XXVIII 77 against D. SMITH is made ours That horrible blasphemy that CHRIST indured the very torments of Hell and went down to suffer there as BANISTER and AEPINUS taught is made ours That CHRIST did being yet alive suffer in his humane soule INFERNI TREMENDA TORMENTA not onely 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as the Greek Liturgies discrectly call them but even desperation and the second death as it is in HUMES Rejoinder unto D. HILL in DEERINGS Catechisme in your new fangled Modell of Divinity M. YATES was it not