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A54202 Reason against railing, and truth against fiction being an answer to those two late pamphlets intituled A dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, and the Continuation of the dialogue &c. by one Thomas Hicks, an Anabaptist teacher : by W. Penn. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1351; ESTC R25209 131,073 243

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him into all Truth as he obeyes it Bap. Abel Enoch Abraham Isaac Jacob Noah c. had a Sufficient Rule before the Scriptures were written viz. the Spirit 's Rule God's Speaking and Directions from his own Mouth and that they had a more Infallible Word to wa●k by then now is to us For 't is possible that some Scriptures may be corrupted having been in the hands of corrupted Men. The Scriptures may be and is corrupted by Man This may be gra●ted that the Spirit is the Rule Of more Efficacy then the Letter The Spirit is greater then the Letter Jo. Newman's Light Within page 19 20 104 105 106 108 110 112. VIII Qua. 'T is possible for True Believers through the Power and Help of Jesus Christ to attain to such a Perfection in this Life as the keeping the Commandments of God Bap. The Spirit of God assures us that they who are subject to and keep the Commandments of God are the Children of God and they who do not are Lyars 1 John 2.3 4. cap. 5.2 3. Contin p. 61. IX Qua. That Remission and Pardon of Sins past thr●ugh the Blood Righteousness of Christ Jesus t●e Justification of Persons whether it import the making or declaring them Righteous in Christ by a Living Faith are neither imputed nor reckon'd of God t● th●m in an Unconverted Unsanctified Disobedient or Ungodly State but to the truly Repentant Converted Believing and Obedient Souls Bap. I know of none that hold Justification of Persons in their Vngodliness We plead not for a Righteousness Imputed to overthrow a Righteousness Inherent or the Exercise of Christian Vertues He that is pardoned were a Sinner till justified not such that remain so being sati●fied Contin p. 55 56. The Saints are made the Righteousness of God that is God now as in Christ d●●●'s and ●●●s in the Saints h● h●●●pirit writes his Law in their Hearts makes them Partakers of his own Nature and so goes o● in Fulfilling his own Righteousness in th●● For the Righteousness of the Law in the Spirit is fulfilled in us Marrow Christian p. 38. X. Qua. Though the Soul and Spirit of Man be not of God's Divine and Infinite Being but related ●o the Being of Man and as Corruptible hath a mut●bl● Habit yet as we are his Off-spring and Man is the Image and Glory of God the Original ●ife o● Soul of the Soul that came from God and is immutable is of his own Being In short God in whom we live move and have our Being is the Life of Lives and Great Soul of Son's and the Soul th●t is Saved and United to God doth partake of his Divine Nature and he that is joyned to the Lord is one Spirit Bap. The Condescension of God and Christ into the Hearts of his People to wo●k up his Saints into the s●●● Nature with himself c. God a●d Christ i● Holy so his Word is Hol● and through Faith in t●is 〈◊〉 Christians are wrought up into the Nature of it self and into God J. Newman 's Book Light Within p 78 84 87 88. There were the Prope●ties o● G●● i● some measure imparted to Adam Adam was in the Image of God in respect of Eternity he h●d given h●m an Everlasting Being Marrow of Christianity pag. 4 5. Christ was both the Power and Wi●dom ●f God and as Christ so all the Saints are 〈◊〉 one i● th●s Wisdom Christ is made unto us Wisdom n●t only by w●y of Imputation but by the Operati●n of the same ●pirit who dwells as truly in every Believer as in Christ ibid. pag. 34 35. And have not s●me of their Brethren conf●st That there is a kind ●f Infiniteness in the Soul XI Qua. The Children of the Resurrection shall be equal unto the Angels of God in Heaven and their Bodies not Natural Earthly and 〈◊〉 the very Gross M●tt●r that n●w they are 〈…〉 Celestial Spiritual like u●to Chri●●'● 〈◊〉 Body God giveth a Body as it pl●as●th 〈◊〉 in Subjection to whose Good Pleasure we 〈◊〉 quiesce till it be effected as he se●th 〈…〉 own Praise Bap. That there shall be a Resurrection of the ●ody at the Last Day is Evident John 5 〈◊〉 11. with 1 Cor. 15. Rev. 20. although 〈…〉 some denyed and by others too ca●●lly looke● 〈◊〉 Some thinking that our Bodies of Flesh shall be Raised in the same Form in which it Dyed c. The Form in which they shall be raised that is a Spiritual Form not in a Fleshly It is sown a Natural Body it is raised a Spiritual Body When Christ who is our Life shall p●e●r we shall appear with him in Glory all Flesh shall he sw●llowed up in ●pirit and our Bodies shall be changed and made like unto his Glorious Body Marrow of Christianity by T.C. pag. 93 94 95. And those Saints who are alive at the Coming of Christ shall be changed in a Moment in the Twinkling of an E●e 1 Cor. 15.51 52. and so shall be caught up in the Spirit to meet the Lord in the Air 1 Thes 4.17 Ibid. p. 92. XII Qua. The Son of God doth not consist or is not made up of a Humane Body of Flesh Blood and Bones For he was the Word and One in Being with the Father from Everlasting But in the Fulness of Time he took upon him Flesh or that Body prepared for him and being Ascended into Glory his Body is a Glorious Body surpassing all Humane Earthly Carnal and Corruptible Bodies Bap. Christ was a Son by a Spiritual Proceeding and Coming from the Father who was Eternally One in the Father Marrow of Ch● p. 30. Our Bodies shall be changed and made like his Glorious Body Ibid. p. 95. The● shall be raised in a Spiritual Form not in a Fleshly p. 94. The ●on took Flesh upon him the Word took Fle●h the Father did prepare him a Body Dialogue p. ●5 4● and 83. XIII Qua. Christ being so highly exalted and Glorified as it God's Right Hand as he is can be neither Proof nor Argument that he is not i● any Man nor that either Christ or God's Right Hand is limited and circumscribed to such Remot●ness as not to be in the True Believers to save and uphold their Souls Bap. When a Soul is satisfied from its Vnion with God and its Dwelling in God that all the Administrations and makings forth of God is Love unto it thus it dwells in Love and from hence is filled with Joy It causeth the Soul alwayes to dwell at the Right Hand of God where is Joy and Pleasure for evermore Marrow of Christian p. 28. Christ the Son was Eternally one in the Father so in him all Believers are made by the same Spirit the Adopted Sons of God being made Partakers of the same Divine Nature Marrow of Christian p. 30. Christ dwells Spiritually in all the Saints If Christ be in you you shall be sensible of it Ibid p 31.32 T●is Indwelling of Christ in his People God and Christ cannot be
for ever did come of Abraham's Seed according to the Flesh that the Body prepared of that Line was his Body that what Sufferings befel it were the Sufferings of Christ just as the Body is called the Body of Christ Yet this we do say and that not in any Undervalue to the Body or Bodily Sufferings of Christ that the Divine Word in whom was Life and whose Life was the Light of Men who took that Flesh is eminently to be lookt upon and that to believe and obey the Light of his Life wherewith he has enlightened us is both the best way to know the Sufferings of his Body and to receive the Benefit of them In short unless Christ be not God and unless the Light be not Christ I know no hurt I have done to assert him to be God nor any Reason our Adversary hath to infer therefore I or any of us deny him to have taken Flesh or that he suffered without the Gates of Jerusalem or that he is not as well Christ without us as within us Again I do affirm that by the same Reason the bodily Sufferings of the Word whose Life was the Light of Men are frequently attributed to the Word it self as if the Word had immediately sustained them and not the Body the Light which shineth in the Consciences of Mankind which is the very Life of the Word or Word it self is not unconcern'd in the bodily Sufferings but both gives to believe them aright and to receive Benefit by them and that as the Sufferings of his own Body by and through which his Glory Grace and Truth did shine forth in the World which are now revealed afresh in the Hearts of all who believe in him Let our Adversaries deal so fairly with us as to distinguish between Christ and the Body of Christ as before Abraham the Rock in the Wilderness and the Appearance of Christ in the Flesh and not infer from our denying that the whole Christ could die that Christ that is the Body of Christ suffered or died not And when we say he who took Flesh has appeared to and in our Hearts that we exclude and deny his then Visible and Bodily Appearance or that he is not now as well without us as within us and we shall never doubt of a good Issue But truly after the rate we have been used by him the most Scriptural Assertions can never escape a being accounted False and Unwarrantable For because we are with godly Fear Jealous least the whole Christ should be thought to have been then crucified when his Body was which strikes at the Life of the Immortal and Divine Being we are represented by this Perverter of our right Meaning as Denyers of that Body whilest he himself acknowledgeth that the meer Manhood was not the Christ but the Word made Flesh Emmanuel Pag. 44. Dialogue 2. Because we assert that true Light with which every Man is enlightened to be in it self the Christ of God and Saviour of the World he infers that we deny the Outward Sufferings of Christ in his Bodily Appearance and in short that we deny the True Christ because he dyed and rose again c. which the Light never did never considering that if he makes what dyed rose again the entire Christ Saviour he excludes the Divinity or Godhead which he confesseth to be Christ in conjunction with the Manhood and which the Scriptures call strictly the Saviour besides whom there is none and which J. Faldo himself pag. 85. part 2. acknowledges to be such But if T. Hicks does allow as indeed he doth that Christ is God as well as Man there is nothing befalls us from his Inference but what strikes himself equally for if the Light with which Men are enlightened be not Christ because it cannot dye then Christ cannot be Christ as God because God cannot dye Well! But T. Hicks tells us that Christ as God is also Christ and that it was Christ's Body only that dyed Therefore I conclude that to own Christ to be that true Light which enlighteneth all men or that true Light to be Christ is no Derogation from Christ or Vndervalue to his Bodily Sufferings 3. And because that one of us spoak of a Two-fold Appearance of Christ in the Soul first as a Seed of Light in Man and next as perfect Day or in a full grown State of Glory Therefore sayes he a Personal Coming in any respect is denyed by you Contin pag. 45. which Conclusion is so horribly Unjust that no Impartial Man needs an Answer to it And let the Partial know that we have not only confessed to his Personal Appearance But T.H. has so much Faith for us Dial. pag. 45. The Baseness and self-Contradiction of the Man is notorious enough as to this Point I shall proceed to the next Particular and that is If Christ signifie Anointed and Christ be God as Penn saith I would query saith our Adversary whether God himself was anointed Contin pag. 47. But though this might have seemd something from a Socinian hand yet from T. Hicks it gives us no Difficulty at all for since he acknowledgeth Christ to be as well God as Man and that Christ was not anointed by halfes but intirely as the Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Christ from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to Anoint doth imply I would fain be informed Argumentum ad hominem Who anointed the Godhead without which T. Hicks affirms again and again Christ was not Christ because says he Christ is God manifest in the Flesh Dialog pag. 44. And since he is for Querying let me ask him who is understood in that Passage God even thy God hath anointed thee with the Oyle of Gladness c Was that said of Christ or no If not say so If it was as most or all believe then whether the Divine Nature of Christ was unconcern'd in that Anointing And who it was that anointed him is evident from the place If T. Hicks will limit God to the manner of his Manifestations and Operations respecting us that is that he is no otherwise to in himself then what he appeares to us to be what will he make of that place To us a Child is born to us a Son is given he shall be called Wonderful Counseller the mighty God the everlasting Father the Prince of Peace c. Shall God's Condescensions to Man's weak and depraved state by personating and representing things to his capacity be an Argument that he is no otherwise in himself Are we confused because we use his Words or shall Man rise up against God's way of uttering forth himself suitable to the shortness of his Understanding This kind of Cavil might better become a Carnal Pharisee or Scoffing Heathen then a Man pretending to Christianity Base Man that he is who rewards the Almighty so ill for his Merciful Condescensions But to the Blind all things are dark But he thinks that he has caught me irrecoverably hear his
or Substance or if by Personal Being he means a Body distinct from our's I believe he hath a Spiritual Glorious Body distinct from all these Earthly Sublunary Bodies But for T.H. he hath as little Knowledg of Christ's Personal Being as he calls it in Heaven as he hath Scripture for this Phrase or Faith in his Light within if by Personal Being he means the Manhood of Christ our confessing the Man Christ as Mediator is sufficiently evinced and the Socinian clears me in his Controversie Ended pag. 50. where he saith Geo. Whitehead useth the word Manhood viz. he took upon him the Manhood in time Is the Heavens that must retain him only the Hearts of Men p 43. It is not the Heavens must retain him but whom the Heaven must receive c. Acts 3.21 and this is above and larger then the Hearts of Men. Where proves he by Scripture that Christ's Second Coming without Sin to Salvation is a Personal Coming while he answers not this he sayes nothing to purpose about it p. 43 44. and answers not what I have writ Christ Ascended p. 20 21 22 23 24. But is it a Contradiction in me to confess that Christ arose with the same Body that was Crucified and put to Death and that he ascended into Glory and yet either to say that I cannot believe his Body to be a Carnal Body in Heaven and these words are not Scripture-Language viz. to say that Christ is a Body of Flesh Blood and Bones a Personal Being at God's Right Hand remote and not in Man or that his Second Coming without Sin unto Salvation is seen Spiritually not Carnally and that they are like to be disappointed of their Hope and Expectation who are expecting that Christ's Second Coming or Appearance to Salvation will be such a Personal Coming and his Reign a Personal Reign The Believers in the primitive Christians dayes who looked for him were not thus disappointed of their Hopes and Expectations But to say I cannot believe that Christ ascended 〈◊〉 the same Body which rose from the Dead c. p. 44 〈◊〉 one of my Words though he cites them for mine O gross Forgery 〈◊〉 then to infer upon is that I did but dissemble in the first viz. in saying that Christ arose with the same Body that was crucified and put to Death and that he ascended into Glory God who knows my Sincerity will judge this Forger of Falsh●●ds and Slanders against me my Conscience bears me Record in the Sight of God I speak my Belief sincer●ly without Dissimulation Touching the Body of Christ he answers not the Objection he layes down in my name viz. Where doth the Scripture say that Christ's Glorified Body in Heaven is of an Humane Nature p. 45. Whereas T.H. queries Doth not the Scripture say that the same Jesus that went away shall in like manner come again Acts 1.10 11. And then frames the Answer for us thus viz. Quak. I deny he shall come visibly and though it be said in like manner yet every like is not the same And to this he subscribes Whitehead pag. 22. of Christ Ascended And then for Answer saith Is not this a plain Denyal of the Second Personal Coming of Christ Contin p 43. To all which I answer In his subscribing my Name to these as my words viz. that I deny he shall come visibly he hath abused me and my Name with a Forgery of his own they are not my words But I quoting Rev. 1.7 8 13 14 16. about Christ's Appearance I said In none of which is Jesus Christ called a Body of Flesh Blood and Bones visibly to come again but that he is Alpha and Omega the First and the Last vers 11. he proves not by Scripture that Christ's Second Coming to Salvation is such a Personal Coming as he imagins but in like manner he shall come again It s true I said every like Manner is not the very same nor all Clouds the same Christ Ascend p. 22 23. and therein I would be understood that though I own Christ's Coming again the second time to Salvation as certain and manifest as he was seen to ascend when the Cloud received him out of their Sight who stood gazing up into Heaven yet he after that came again and signally appeared variously to divers and in a more glorious Manner then he was seen to ascend for he ascended into Glory which his Coming again doth not divest him of and he shall be universally seen to some Men's Terror and Sorrow and to others great Comfort and Joy To Paul he appeared in a Heavenly Vision or Light from Heaven above the Brightness of the Sun in so much that he fell down to the Earth and was without sight for three dayes So that he could not stand gazing at his Coming as the Men of Gallilee did at his ascending And when John was in the Spirit he appeared to him so that his Eyes were as a Flame of Fire his Countenance as the Sun shineth in his Strength insomuch that he said When I saw him I fell at his Feet as Dead Rev. 1.13 14 15 16 17. So that John could not stand gazing at this Appearance which is like unto the Angel's Appearance unto Daniel in his great Vision insomuch that he said there remained no Strength in me see Dan. 10 5 6 7 8. compared with Rev. 1.13 14 15 16 17. And I must own Christ's Coming universally in his Kingdom and the Glory of his Father to be after a more Transcendent Manner and Higher Glory then Men shall be able to stand Gazing at as they did at his Ascension And must conclude that 't is a Design of Satan to keep some Men in Carnal Imaginations and dark Thoughts of an Humane Personal Christ consisting either of Flesh Blood and Bones like theirs or of Flesh and Bones without Blood and so of God's Right Hand as limited to that Remoteness that they neglect to wait for Christ's Inward and Spiritual Appearance and the Knowledge of God's Right Hand near them to save a●d preserve them from Sin and Death In this the Enemy hath deceived them and the Devil blinded them from the Spiritual and Saving Knowledge of Christ and his coming in his Kingdom But why must I be counted guilty of vile Hypocrisie Is it for saying Every Man has not the Son that is revealedly and unitedly in Possession which was my very Intent and yet a Light of the Son appears in every Man in some degree or for denying that this Light is a meer Creature and asserting that in him was Life and the Life was the Light of Men and this Life and Light is Divine and Increated p. 46 47. I am still of the same Mind and though the Man repeats some of my Words he hath brought me no Argument to Convince me that this Life which is the Light of Men is but a meer Creature But if it be Divine and Increated he takes it for granted it must
separate Christ in them the Hope of Glory Newman's Light within p. 81 82 83 86. XIV Qua. That through Faith in the Power of Christ Perfection that is a Freedom from Sin is attainable and comes to be attained in this Life by the Soul that experienceth the Restauration by Christ Bap. If God in his Son draw up the Soul to himself Jo. 6 44. The more Special and Spiritual Condition of Souls thus drawn up to God in Christ is not only a Restauration to the Condition of the first Adam with relation to a Freedom from Sin this every Believer enjoys by Christ a Freedom a Justification from Sin But secondly every Soul drawn ●p out of it self to God is brought into the Condition of the second Adam Marrow Christian p. 29. XV. Qua. That Soul that 's restored unto the New Covenant-Dispensation and come to taste how good he is to partake of his Spiritual Wisdom and Counsel therein doth own and follow this Spirit and the Light thereof as the Chief Rule of Faith Obedience and Worship above the Scripture or Letter and the Spiritual Saving Knowledge of God and Christ therein beyond all Literal Knowledge and Profession of him received from without Bap. This Wisdom namely of the Spirit which is spiritual and heavenly sets the Creature out of himself in the Power of God that Wisdom namely of the Flesh and first ●dam carried on the Creature to the Answering of God in the Letter and yet in all this come s●o●t This 〈…〉 of the Spirit carries on the Soul where It 〈◊〉 is n●●●fter the Oldness of the Letter but after the Newness of the Spirit In ● w●rd that Wisdom could not hel● to the Knowledge of God in the Spirit This doth 1 C●r 1. Marrow of Christian p. 35. Certainl● that ●oul who hath once tasted how Good and how Gracious the Lord is in the Spirit 〈◊〉 never be satisf●● with ● Knowledge of him in the Letter The Knowledge of a Spiritual V●i● with God produceth an acting 〈◊〉 and ●●er the Spirit of God How doth the Creature 〈…〉 work and ●●ls it self even in the Letter of the Gospel as well as formerly in the Letter of the La● for want of Knowledge of the Vnion in the Spiritual Power of the Lord Marrow p. 44. XVI Qua. Christ's Second Appearance or Coming to the Salvation of them that truly wait and look for him is a Spiritual Appearance or Coming in Sp●●● to s●v● his People and not in Scripture call● a P●●●●●d or Fleshly Coming nor his Reign a Personal Reign in his Kingdom for 't is a Spiritual Kingdom and his Reign in it Spiritual Bap. Christ's Presence and so his Kingdom will be a Spiritual Presence and not a Personal His Reign in the Latter Dayes will not be Personal but Spiritual Jesus Christ is no more to be known of the Saints after the Flesh therefore his Presence so and his Kingdom will not be a Fleshly or Personal Presence and Kingdom but a Spiritual his Glory Spiritual his Kingdom not of this World c. See the Point argu'd at large Marrow Christian p. 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 to the end of the Section XVII Qua. That there is an Immortal and Incorruptible Seed of the Nature of Christ Jesus to be known in the Soul whereof true Believers come to be born again even by the Word of Life and Power which liveth and abideth forever and so comes Christ to be formed and Spiritually born in them and they to be renewed up into his Nature and Image Bap. Although we have known Christ after the Flesh yet know we him no more why If any Man be in Christ he is a New Creature Christ is formed in him after the Spirit and he comes now to 〈◊〉 a Spiritual Christ within him Marrow p. 55. Faith may be acted not only on Christ's Dying 〈◊〉 the Cross but in Christ's Living in the Soul that is my believing That Christ is Spiritually formed in me as well as that he dyed for me Ibid p. 56. XVIII Qua. We are fully satisfied that God is so far from having absolutely and particularly decreed Men's Destruction from Eternity or designing perpetual and meer voluntary Hatred to particular Persons or with-holding his Saving Grace from them that his Love is in the first place Universal to all Mankind his Grace which brings Salvation hath appeared and is free to all Men till they reject it the Appearance whereof is in and by the Light of his Son in all which is sufficient to leave all the Disobedient without Excuse whereby Men are at sometimes put into such a Capacity as that they may be saved and so receive the Benefit and good End of Christ's Coming Suffering Death and becoming a Ransom for ALL for a Testimony in due time of God's f●●e Love and Grace And with this the General Baptists agree against the Contrary Partial and Pinching Opinion of the Particular Electioners Bap. 1. We believe and are very confident that there is one Lord Jesus Christ by whom are all things who is the only begotten Son of God whom God freely sent into the World because of his great Love unto the World who as freely gave himself a Ransom for all 1 Tim. 2.5 6. tasting Death for every Man Heb. 2.9 a Propitiation for our Sins and not for ours only but also for the Sins of the whole World 1. Jo. 2.2 2. That God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to Repentance 2. Pet. 3.9 and the Knowledge of the Truth that they might be saved 1 Tim. 2.4 for which End Christ hath commanded that the Gospel to wit the glad Tiding of Remission of Sins should be preached to every Creature Ma●k 16.15 So that no Man shall eternally suffer in Hell for want of a Christ that dyed for them but as the Scripture saith for denying the Lord that bought them 2 Pet. 2. or because they believe not in the Name of the only begotten Son of God Jo. 3 18. Vnbelief therefore being the Cause why the Just and Righteous God will condemn the Children of Men it follows against all Contradiction that all Men at one time or other are put into such a Capacity as that through the Grace of God they may be eternally saved Joh. 1.7 Act. 17.30 Mark 6.6 Heb. 3.10 18.19 1 Joh. 5 10. Joh. 3.17 See Art 3.4 of Confession of Faith presented to the King subscribed by 46 of them Serious Reader I having diligently traversed the present Controversies between some of these Water-Baptists and us called Quakers have thus far laboured for Quietness and Reconciliation by thus obviously laying down those Principles and Doctrines of ours that have been chiefly struck at by the Dialogue-Man and some others of them together with his and his Brethren's own intermixt Concessions and Assenting to the Truth thereof in most things very nearly concurring in Matter and Substance which while he or any of them otherwhiles oppose and
contradict and count us Impostors Hereticks c. for these Matters they oppose and contradict themselves like Wavering Unsettled and Uncertain Persons not to be credited in their Contentious Work As for those Passages of Tho. Collier they were Printed in the Year 1050. which was before these Controversies happened between us and so before their Enmity broke forth as it doth● and therefore the more to be taken notice of as being writ from an Unprejudiced Mind and a Capacity more fit to receive Spiritual Sights and Openings which divers of them heretofore have had But now plain Prejudice Darkness and an Apostacy is come over these Carnal Contenders who have lost that former Sincerity Tenderness and Spiritual Desires that appeared in divers and now with their Flesh Darkness Carnal Imaginations and Selfish Spirits they are Raising up a Smoak and Darkness against the Glory of this Dispensation of Spirit Life Light and Power revealed among us which will out-live their Enmity and wear-out their Shadows and Empty Profession For this Spiritual Transcending Dispensation shall Increase their Shadows shall Decrease grow into Disesteem naturally Decay and by Degrees Vanish thereupon G.W. THE END Dial. p. 66. Pag. 13 15 25 44 45 49 54 60 76. Dial. p. 3 4 5. John 1.16 Col. 1.19 Rom. 8.9 10 11. vers 7. pag. 8 9. pag. 9. Dial. Joh. 1.5 Prov. 4.18 1 Joh. 1.1.2 3 4 5 6 7. Joh. 8.12 Joh. 11.9 10. Pag. 7. Dial. p. 21 22 33. Pythag. Socrat. Cleanth c. Pag. 33. Dial. Dial. p. 38.42 Dial. P. 22. Stob. 28. Id. 114. Val. Max. 2.10 Cic. pro Bal. Laert. Dial P. 35.36 Rom. 1.19 20. Jo. 10. P. 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30. pag. 42. Contin pag. 3. Pag. 20. See p. 21. Dial. p. 43 44 45 46 47. Contin pag. 40 41 43 44. Isa 6.9 Cont. p. 48. Contin P. 49. Rom. 1. Dialog pag. 47.48 Isa 59.16 Isa. 63.4 4. Dialog p. 1. Read G. Fox 's Gr. Myst p. 91. Contin P. 50. * If wholely without us then none of it within us It was such a Justification as respected being made just by the Destruction of Sin inherent by the Spirit Power of Christ Jesus and not being accounted Just from the Guilt and former Sins freely Remitted in his Blood as an Offering for Sin once for all to every one that truly repents Apol●g p. 148. Gal. 6. Rev. 22. Rom. 8. P. 51. Contin Ezek. 18.20 26 27 28. * As wholely without us It is to be understood of a Righteousness Wrought by Christ's Power within when I speak of being justified that is made just by it Rom. 5.19 Rom. 2 3 4 5. Chap. 2. Cor. 5.19 Act 3.38 Contin P. 52. Sand. Found Shaken p. 26. * He was Our Example in Holiness though not in his Ending Types Shadows Contin p. 52. Sand. Found Shaken p 30. * God's Love is not excluded nor his Power that so worked in Abraham's Heart * That is within them as to Qualification Ibid. p. 52.53 Dialog p. 38. Contin p. 53. Contin p. 53. * Justification not as Remission but as made Just Contin p. 54. Isa 45.24 25. 1 Cor. 1.30 31. Cont. Pag. 59. Micah 7.18 Mat. 6.12 Rom. 14.12 2. Cor. 15.10 Mat 7.21 24 25. Rom. 2.13 Rom. 8.13 * Justification is compleatly taken Jam. 2.21 24. Rom. 8.30 Cont. p. 56. 1 Thes 5.23 1 John 5.18 2.1 3. Matth. 15.48 Ephes 4.13 2 Tim. 23.17 Hebr. 13.12 1 Pet. 5.10 2 Cor. 7.1 E. B's Works p. 47. Dialog p. 8. Cont. p. 68. Contin p. 61. * Observe how T. Hicks can quote Scripture to keep Ordinances never mentioned nor intended in it Again that he puts more Value upon such Commands as are Temporary then those that are Immutable and brings Scripture that concerns the Latter to confirm his Belief of the Former Mat. 3. Acts 1. James 4.3 Mat. 7.21 Spir. of Alex. p. 9. Contin p. 64. Contin p. 63 69. Comin pag. 65 66 67. 1 John 2.27 Ibid. Dialog p. 57. Dialog p. 58. Dialog Ibid. 2 Cor. 5.1 Rom. 8.11 2 Cor. 5.8 9. Cont. P. 18. Ibid. P. 27.29.32 33 34 38. Dial. p. 1 10 27 28 41 43 78 79 80 81 89. Cont. Tit. Pa. p. 50 56 58 66 68. 70. Dial. P. 83 84 85 92 93 94. Contin P. 87. The Waldenses accounted themselves Witnesses their best Argument was their Conscience P.P. Perrin Hist Wald. Luther oppos'd the Pope and his Adherents particularly about Justification by Works upon Experience He made it to stand in the Testimony of God in the Conscience that he was accepted from an Inward Work of God's Spirit and not any Outward Wo●ks much less such as their Works were Wessel Luth. confer Fox Mart. 2. Tom. The English Martyrs laid the Stress of their Opposition to Popery upon their Witnessing better things Book of Mart. The Brownists call themselves God's Sack-Cloth-Witnesses in their Apology dedicated to King James in the beginning of his Reign 1. yea in that Epistle Dedicatory they speak several times to that purpose their being Witnesses that they did Witness c. The like often in the Preface Book it self with great Zeal and Honesty 'T was what they al in their several day felt springing up in them that gave them to relish Persons Words and Things and as they savoured so they testified Their Experience was the Ground of their Knowledge And their inward Witnessing the Work and Will of God the Reason of their outward Witnessing for it unto Death it self Dial. p. 20 25 68 72. Cont. p. 23. pag. 88. * Which if it must be taken for any Reply he hath broken his Promise but if no Reply then it clears him not * These are both Abominable Lyes * Where is his Quotation for the Reader to Examine here * If T.H. did not pick and call out of our Adversaries Book●●o● t●●●● his Butchery ●gainst us but 〈◊〉 In partially Mo●●rate we should have fairer Deali●g● than we have from ●im Heb. 9.28 * In what Sense Christ is in Man and in what not is explained Serious Apology p. 35. Nat. Christ p. 49. Cont. p. 40. * Contin p. 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69.