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A89135 Antichrist in man the Quakers Idol. Or a faithfull discovery of their ways and opinions by an eye and ear-witness thereof. Together with an answer and confutation of some dangerous and damnable doctrines justified, in a paper sent by them unto me: as also one of them taken with a lie in his mouth before the magistrates. / By Joshuah Miller, a servant of Christ in the work of the Gospel. Miller, Joshua, 17th cent. 1655 (1655) Wing M2061; Thomason E868_1; ESTC R207650 27,464 39

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Christs arch enemy O beloved take heed of losing your faith on Christs satisfaction to God for you without you lest you hereby at once lose all your comfort To the sixth opinion that Christ ascended not to Heaven with the same body he had on earth though glorified Answ To this they make an equivocal answer in these words concerning Christs body as the Divel contended about the body of Moses And if thou hast ears to hear thou mayest hear the same is he that descended hath also ascended who is a spirit that saith the flesh profiteth nothing c. Consut Wherein I easily perceive they speak like the blind Oracles of Delphos which shews their hearts not right in this matter 1. They imply ye might as well say I am a Divel for disputing about Christs body for so they make the comparison 2. It seems that as the Divel nor none could find Moses body to this day Deutr. 34.6 so Christ either hath no body or else it s not to be found truly this sence I most in charity make of their words yea I have sufficient ground to beleeve that some do deny Christ ascended with his body whereas Acts 1.11 12. Men and Brethren why stand ye gazing this same Jesus which ye see go up into Heaven shall so come c. Christ ascended with a body because they saw him with their natural eyes for a spirit is not seen in that manner Our vile bodies shall be made like to his glorious body Phil. 3.21 Paul it seems knew that Christs body was glorified and affirms the resurrection of the Saints bodies to the same glory Job longs before Christ came in the flesh beleeved that he should with his eyes yea and in his flesh see the God-man Christ Jesus at last Job 19.26 there is one Mediator betwixt God and Man the man Christ Jesus 1 Tim. 2.5 mark Paul affirms it in the present tense not there was as if his humane nature was vanisht but there is still the man Christ its needlesse to spend time in proving so plain and glorious a truth but that I find some question it and others deny it yet the first fathers of this Heresie was above 1500 years agone Ap●lles a Syrian by birth taught that Christ onely ascended with his spirit and left his body to return to the earth And if Christs body did not ascend as some would have it then the bodies of the Saints shall not ascend and this must necessarily follow But as to that they give me no answer by way of justification therefore I will not treat of supposing here is sufficient delivered for confutation of six most damnable Heresies which its evident by their words they maintain unlesse they will confesse and deny in an hour as some of them have learnt the Act of dissimulation equivocation and mental reservation indifferent well already Therefore my humble request to all Gods people especially to those in the County of Glamorgan with bleeding hearts consider the Blasphemies vented forth yea and publickly owned and pleaded for by some men and shall not Ministers Preach and Pray against these things Shall Quakers have their liberty and we be deprived of ours by their revilings even in the times of our exercise In the paper they sent me they deny disputing for indeed they cannot for their mouths are full of railings so that Argumentum Baco alinum is the fittest way to deal with them As Agur said of himself may well be applied to them surely they are more brutish then any man and have not the understandings of a man Prov. 30.2 And in contending with them I have fought with beasts not at Ephesus as Paul did but at What monstrous Doctrine is this to suffer women to be Preachers by way of authority condemned as against nature Isaiah 3.12 1 Cor. 14.34 35. 1 Tim. 2.12.14 this opinion was first held by the Pepuzians that women might Preach because they wickedly affirmed Christ assumed the form of a woman and not of a man In France they allow not a woman to bee a ruler over the affairs of mens goods But with us some women will be rulers over and directers of mens consciences for so amongst the Quakers women commonly teach as wel as men 1. I wil touch now upon some of their lesse trivial matters At first they keep a stir about the Ministers going into the Pulpit saying he is a Pharisee for that verily if Ezra the Scribe was alive they would call him Pharisee also for going into his Pulpit Neh. 8.4 is not that the most convenient place for the people to hear So they quarrel about words to no purpose Paul condemns such strifes 1 Tim. 6.4 2 Tim. 2.14 avoid such contendings 2. F. G. As for thee and thou to one person its indifferent to me but when they lay a command upon it As one did in discourse with me I asked him where was the command he said the firth Commandment saith Thou shalt honour I told him the command was not to the word thou but the honouring of Parents which I feared he did not yet read John 1.51 where Christ saith you to Nathaniel Again what a noise have we about putting off the Hat with them as if respect was to be shewed to none wherein they miserably wrest that Scripture that hee who respects person finneth Which is meant principally for Magistrates and such as sit in the seat of judgement and condemns onely partiality but there is a civil respect to all men Honour all men 1 Pet. 2.17 let them read that word if they dare Levit. 19.32 Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head and honour the face of the old man and fear God it seems by this that little fear of God dwels in the heart when honour and respect is denied to the ancient seeing God calls himself the ancient of dayes Dan. 7.9 And for their horrid a buse of Christ Ministers we can best bear it seeing we should have most patience Paul did teach Timothy another lesson the Elders that rule well are worthy of double honour especially they that labour in the Word and Doctrine 1 Tim. 3.17 Heb 13.17 But all the dirt and plagues they cast on the faithfull Ministry wil fall upon their own heads for the younger not to honour the elder and ruler is threatned as a turse which I think in these men is now manifest Did not the Lord by Isdiah the Prophet complain of this that the Child shall be have himself proudly against the Antient and the Base against the Honourable Isa 3.5.6 read but what evils and Tyrannies fell on the State of the Jews after this therefore we know through grace how rightly to divide the word of truth in this case better then the Quakers for all their immediate calls 2. Tim. 2.15 Thirdly I have observed the strange kind of Apish postures they appear in sometimes like the Swine looking and bending to the earth then staning and raving like the men