in apt Resemblances obvious to the Sences as Tophet is ordained of old yea for the King it is prepared he hath made it deep and large the Pile thereof is Fire and much Wood the Breath of the Lord like a Stream of Brimstone doth kindle it Isa. 30. 33. and Bind him Hand and Foot and cast him into ulter Darkness there shall be Weeping and Gnaâ—…hing of Teeth Mat. 22. 13. As also If thy right Eye Hand or Foot offend pluck it out or cut it off and cast it from thee as being better that one Member should perish then the whole Body should be cast into Hell where the Worm dyeth not and the Fire shall never be quenched Mat. 〈◊〉 29. Mark 9. 49. to the end Which still argues that the Impenitent and Wicked are liable to meet with real â—…orment and that he hath spiritually his proper Being and Habit consisting of such spiritual Parts and Sences having an evil Eye a polluted Mind and defiled Conscience covered with Guilt pressed down with the Body of Sin and perplexed with Horror wherein he both receiveth the Deeds 〈◊〉 in the Body and is capable of absolute Misery in the Fire which shall never be quenched where the Worm dyeth not As also it is said The Rich Man also dyed and was buried and in Hell he lift up his Eyes being in Torments and seeth Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his Bosom and he cried said Father Abraham have Mercy on me and send Lazarus that he may dip the Tip of his Finger in Water and cool my Tongue for I am tormented in this Flame Luk. 16. 23 24. When his Body was buried yet he had the Sence of Torments that seized upon him and a Sight of the other's Felicity which he himself had lost Therefore as Christ said I say unto you my Friends be not afraid of them that can kill the Body and after that have no more that they can do but I will fore-warn you whom ye shall fear fear him which after he hath killed hath Power to cast into Hell I say unto you fear him Luk. 12. 4 5. A Summary of the Difficulties in the Point in Controversie FInally The Controversie is run up to these Difficulties which I object upon our Opposers Doctrines and Conceptions 1st How the self same Bodies should arise compleat after dissolved to Dust without a New Creation appears not nor is it demonstrated by them 2. If a New Creation of compleat Bodies of the same Dust and Elements should be conceived or admitted it is Incredible that God should create any corrupt sinful or polluted Bodies thereof for perpetual Torments seeing his Works are pure And as Incredible that he should make a pure Body to be invested with the former Evil Habit of Sin and Corruption for perpetual Torment in Hell-Fire and to be sure the first Elements or Dust of dissolved â—…odies is as pure as at the first 3. If Infants be supposed to arise at the Stature of Men how can theirs be the self-same Bodies they were 4. How the Body of the Saints and Children of the Resurrection should be either a Celestial Spiritual Glorious or Angelical Body and they Equal unto the Angels in Heaven and yet the self-same Earthly Elementary Body that dissolveth to Dust c. such a strange Transubstantiation appears not unless that the Natural Body and the Spiritual the Terrestrial and the Celestial the Human and Angelical be both One and the Self-same 5. That the Soul should not enjoy her self in absolute Felicity or Misery in perfect Glory or Contempt in her proper Vessel or Cloathing spiritually without the Earthly Cloathing which is Dust appears not while the Children of the Resurrection are equal unto the Angels of God in Heaven which are absolutely Happy and the Devil and his Angels absolutely Miserable 6. We cannot believe that the Invisible Infinite God should be seen with the Bodily or fleshly Eyes after Dissolution not that Job intended he should see God with his Flesh or bodily Eyes It being in consistent both with his being an Invisible Eternal or Infinite Spirit and with the true spiritual Sight of him which Job received Job 42. 5. 7. That the Seed to which God giveth a Body as it pleaseth him 1 Cor. 15. and the Body given to it should be one and the self same Earthly Body is a non-sensical Doctrine and an apparent Incongruity 8. That the Terrestrial Bodies should be so desirable to the Souls of the Righteous after Dissolution for the compleating their Felicity and perfecting their Glory appears plainly inconsistent with their desiring here to be dissolved and to be absent from the Body to enjoy and possess a Building of God au House eternal in the Heavens Or that the Souls of the Righteous should be so variable as to desire to be absent from the Body and presently after Dissolution to desire the Resuming of the same Earthly Body or a Re-union to it This implicitely accuseth the Souls of deceased Saints with being in their Affections both Earthly Variable and Unquiet as in a kind of Purgatory Which we can never assent to Thomas Vincent's Illustrations ABOUT THE RESURRECTION Which we may look upon as the Sense of the Rest and as the Explication of their Doctrines and Opinions who are Opposing the Spirituality of our Testimony about the Resurrection Among which some Truths are intermixt though his gross and carnal Conceptions about the Point we cannot close with His Illustrations are in his Book entituled Christ's Certain and Suddain Appearance to Judgment Collected and Placed in his own Words as followeth for the Serious and Spiritual-minded Readers to judge of T. V. GIve me leave to illustrate the Resurrection a little further and here I shall endeavour to set it forth by an Allusion to that notable place Ezek. 37. and ten first Verses pag. 16. some thing like this will the Resurrection be at the Last Day Now the Bones and Bodies of all former Generations are scattered up and down in the Valley of the Shadow of Death some are sunk into the Deep others are buried in the Earth the Flesh is consumed and resolved into its first Elements and the Bones of some remain of others are mouldred into Earth Now when the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God shall come down from Mount Sion which is above into the Valley of this inferiour World he will Prophesie over all the Bodies and Bones of all the Children of Men that are dead and speak unto them to Live he will say unto them whilft they lie rotting in their Graves Live he will say Awake ye that sleep in the Dust And Oh what a Noise and Shaking will there be then in the Ground What a clattering of Bones together in the coming of Bone to his Bone If the Body hath been quartered and buried part in one place and part in another as the Levite's Concubine who was divided into Twelve Parts and sent to the Twelve Tribes of
all John 3. 31. and the Flesh of the Son of man which he gave for the Life of the World is that Bread which came down from Heaven Joh. 6. 50 51. Except ye eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink his Blood ye have no Life in you ver 53. Yet that the Name Son of Man was applyed to him as a Sufferer and as he said so shall the Son of man be three Dayes and three Nights in the Heart of the Earth Math. 12. 40. I deny not but this doth not limit him from being called the Son of Man in a higher State also each of God's Prophets might be called as divers were a Son of Man but Christ the great Prophet the Son of Man the Apostle distinguisheth between the first man and the second man thus The first man is of the Earth earthly or human the second man is the Lord from Heaven 1 Cor. 15. 47. therefore the second man is not human in their Sence nor consisting of a human or earthly Body as the first man and Ephes. 4. 9 10. now that he ascended what is it but that he also descended first into the lower Parts of the Earth he that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all Heavens that he might fill all things and Phil. 3. 21 who shall change the Body of our Lowness that it may be fashoned like unto his glorious Body c. Now if it should be read according to these Baptists Sence it must be who shall change our vile Bodies that they may be fashoned like unto his human Body as if they were not such already and how disproportionable is it to say Christ consists of a human Body of flesh blood and bones in Heaven but the Saints must have a spiritual glorious Body in the State of Glory hereafter yet to prevent these mens Scruples concerning our owning the man Christ or the Son of man in Glory I tell them seriously that I do confess both to his miraculous Conception by the Power of the holy Spirit overshadowing the Virgin Mary and to his being born of her according to the Flesh and so that he took upon him a real Body and not a fantastical and that he was real Man come of the Seed of Abraham and that he in the Dayes of his Flesh preached Righteousness wrought Miracles was crucified and put to Death by wicked Hands that he was buried and rose again the third Day according to the Scriptures and after he rose he appeared diversly or in divers Forms and Manners he really appeared to many Brethren 1 Corinth 15. and afterwards ascended into Glory being translated according to the Wisdom and Power of the Heavenly Father and is glorified with the same Glory which he had with the Father before the World began being ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things whose Glory is Incomprehensible and beyond the Apprehension of Human Capacities VI. Of Jesus and his Body of Man and the Body of Man WHereas H. G. cavils at my speaking distinctly of the Body of Jesus in that Joseph of Arimathea begg'd the Body of Jesus and to confute me herein he instanceth that of the body of Saul and saith that the Case is the same and the body of Moses which the Devil disputed about p. 39 40 41. but in this I cannot see any valid Matter to his purpose nor wherein he can intend it unless he believes that the Soul or spiritual Existence of man dyes with the body and the Devil did appear wiser then he concerning this distinction in that his disputing about the body of Moses does imply a distinction between Moses as to his immortal Existence and the body of Moses and that he did not confound them as this man doth who concludes Jesus Christ to consist of a human Body of Flesh and Bone which the original Being of no man properly consists of though to prevent Cavils and for 〈◊〉 sake I 'll grant him thus much that the Name Jesus Christ is indifferently and mutually applyed both to his spiritual being and to the body he took upon him and that distinctly in Scripture although the Names Messiah Jesus Christ the Anointed the Image and Glory of the invisible God the Word the Light the Life c. do more eminently and more originally belong to him as he was before he took that body upon him which he called this Temple and it was called the body of Jesus Whereas H. G. sayes What a strange Epitath would this Man write upon a Tomb-stone he cannot write here lyes the Body of Thomas or William c. but rather thus here lies the Thomas of Thomas p. 41. Reply This more properly falls upon himself in not admitting that distinction touching Jesus and the body of Jesns but their concluding and confining Jesus Christ as to confist of the meer body of flesh and bone and that he could not be Jesus Christ the Saviour before he took upon him that body by which this man cannot write Here lies the body of Thomas or William c. which implies a belief of an Immortality of the man as to his Spirituality but rather here lies the whole man Thomas or William without admitting of any such Immortality and yet I will grant him as before that the Word Man is indifferently applyed to either the spiritual Being or Body of man as there is an inward man and an outward man 2 Cor. 4. 16. And as God created man in his own Image and yet it s said he formed man of the Dust of the Earth Gen. 1. 27. and Chap. 2. 7. and it s said That the rich Man dyed and was buried which was his Body and in Hell he lift up his Eyes c. which could not be that Part which dyed and was buried but the immortal part or Soul Luke 16. 22. 23. yet the Word Man most properly and originally as God created Man in his own Image belongs to his spiritual Existence or Being for the Earthly Body was not the Image of God But farther let the Reader observe how evidently H. G. has contradicted his foregoing Stuff for a human Christ consisting of a Body of meer Flesh and Bone against my distinction concerning Jesus and his Body that was put to Death and buried which was also raised as where he speaks distinctly of Jesus and his Body p. 33. and confesseth that Christ came in the Flesh p. 36. that he hath an outward glorisied Existence that he hath a body p. 46 47. Christ's crucified Body p. 50. the Body that was prepared for him p. 79. He did assume our Nature p. 80. He had the very Form Shape and Fashion of a Man p. 81. And what He or Him was this he speaks of Was it not Christ the Son of God the Anointed And to his arguing That if Jesus Christ continues a man for ever then he hath a Body of Flesh and Bone forever This doth not follow
if a Heathen that hath not this Law outwardly written should ask the same Question what shall I do to inherit Eternal Life He may truely be answered Obey the Light or Law of thy Maker in thy Heart which tells thee Thou must love and honour him above all and do Injury or Wrong to no Man this do and thou shalt inherit eternal Life for this End the Grace of God is free for thee XII Our Doctrine for turning People to the Light within justified H. G. NOne of the true Gospel-Preachers did ever teach such a Doctrine as this is which the Quakers preach namely bid People turn to the Light within p. 63. 64. H. G. Contra. That God who commanded Light to shine out of Darkness hath shined in our Hearts 2 Cor. 4. Concession Who doth deny that Holy Men did endeavour to turn Men and Women from Darkness to the Light to leave their Sins to turn from all their wicked Abominations and Unfruitful Works of Darkness to God and Christ p. 67. What may be known of God is manifest in Men Rom. 1. pag. 68 69. Anim. If God hath shined in our Hearts and what may be known of God be manifest in Men must they not turn to his Shining and Illumination For God is Light whose inward Light which we testifie to is become the main stumbling Block and Rock of Offence to these dark Opposers And where was the Darkness which holy Men endeavoured to turn others from was it not within And the Light shines in Darkness the Light of God and Christ which their Minds were to be turned unto it was not an outward created or natural Light but inward and Spiritual and so rceived God hath shined in our Hearts see 2 Cor. 4. 6. his Concession to this overturns him And if the Quakers do not prove these very bare Words in Scripture to wit turn to the Light within it doth not therefore follow that they cannot prove the Matter of such a Doctrine as turn to the Light within see Deut 30. 1. 2. both in Tindal's Translation and in the Bible in folio London printed in the Year 1576. Thou shalt turn into thy Heart and shalt return unto the Lord thy God c. As also to the Question wherewith shall a young Man cleanse his Wayes the Answer and Direction is saith H. G. pag. 64. by taking Heed thereto according to thy Word Psalm 119. 9. And did not David hide this Word in his Heart that he might not sin against God And both Moses and the Apostle say the Word is nigh thee in thy Heart Deut. 30. Rom. 10. And did not Jesus say There is yet a little Light in you as some Copies have it Joh. 12. 35. And while you have the Light believe in the Light that you be the Children of the Light ver 36. Many other Instances of this Doctrine might be urged XIII Of Christ as at the Father's right Hand c. I May not well omit one Passage of H.G. which had like to have been buried in the bulk and heap of his Rubbish that is after he denies the Spirit to be Saviour though present to prove the Saviour absent he saith He is ascended into Heaven and hath a real outward Existence at the Father's right Hand p. 46. an outward glorified Existence in the Kingdom of his Father or Glory above p. 47 To which I say The Saviour is not absent from them that are saved for Christ said He that is with you shall be in you His ascending into Heaven yea and far above all Heavens was not that he might remain absent from his Church but rather that being departed from them in his outward Presence or Body he might be the more present with them and in them in the Spirit and Power of the Father And Christ being exalted at the Father's right Hand is no Proof that he is remote separate or absent from his People and Members any more then that the Father's right Hand of Power is absent and remote from them though we see what gross Apprehensions some Men have of God and Christ who thus would exclude limit or circumscribe them yea God and his right Hand of Power only to a Place distant from his People and Children which doth not only strengthen gross Apprehensions in the Ignorant to keep them in Ignorance dark Thoughts and carâ—…al Imaginations concerning God and his right Hand as if he were a Body or Person like themselves but also opposeth his Infiniteness and Omnipresence and so Christ's Divinity whereas the Heaven of Heavens cannot contain him We may in a Sence be said to be absent from the Lord while at home or Strangers in the Body in Comparison of that Enjoyment of him hereafter to be had which yet proves not him nor his right hand absent as circumscribed or only far distant from us his right hand of Power is where he is and Christ inseparably with and in the Father glorified with the Father 's own self even with the same Glory which he had with him before the World began which Glory is divine invisible and incomprehensible and therefore human or Earthly Nature is not capable of that divine Glory and Power wherewith the Son of God was anointed dignified and exalted at God's right hand And David said O thou that savest by thy right hand them which put their Trust in thee and thy right hand hath holden me up Psa. 17. 7. and 18. 35. and 20. 6. and 60. 5. and 63. 8. and 73. 23. So that neither the infinite God nor his Son nor his right hand of Strength can be circumscribed or limitted into a Separation or Remoteness from the Children of Light who are saved by the right hand of God whose Hand and Power is spiritual And if Saul was struck down and blinded by the Light that shone from Heaven above the Brightness of the Son which he calls the heavenly Vision in Acts 26. 13 19. In which Jesus did speak unto him whose Voice the Men with Saul heard not Ch. 22. 9. How much further doth Jesus himself in the Father's Divine Glory transcend this Vision though glorious And how far is his own Being his spiritual and glorious Body beyond the reach of these Men's earnal Thoughts and mean Conceptions as this Man represents Christ at God's right hand in Glory as consisting of Flesh and Bone human Nature outward Existence c. And so to have appeared to Paul at the time of his Conversion p. 46. and which John saw in that Vision p. 56. Rev. 1. 13 14 15. Whereas Paul and John gives no such account of Christ's Appearances to them as that it was in a human Body of Flesh and Bone much less that he consisted meerly of Flesh and Bone but the Cause of the Martyr Stephen his seeing Jesus standing on the right hand of God was his being full of the holy Ghost Acts 7. 55 56. And it is in the same holy Ghost that the truely sanctified and
is this to shew thy Humility and self-Abasement thou hadst shown more of that in Silence a Fool is sometimes counted a prudent Man by keeping silent who otherwise bewrayes his Folly in uttering words as some men shew their Pride and Hypocrisie by endeavouring to appear humble 6thly Nothing Creature Should another tell thee so in earnest in shewing the Nothingness of thy Work thou hast produced â—…t is probable thou wouldst not take it well Some while they discommend themselves would have others commend them and their Work But to thee nothing creature and thy Brethren that have assisted and encouraged thee in thy Work against the Light within and against us who believe in and confess to it we may say Produce your Cause bring forth your strong Reasons behold ye are of nothing and your Works of nought and Abomination is he that chuâ—…eth you Isa. 41. 21 24. Lay aside your Envy Pride Hypocrisie vain Imaginations and Conceits and come down and stoop to this Light within which at times convinceth and reproves you of your Iniquities that you may be Reformed and the Reproofs of Instructions may be the way of Life unto you Otherwise the Light within will pursue you to your Condemnation XVI The Baptist's nine Questions Answered THat the Reader may perceive the man is uncertain and argues Doubtâ—…ulness in his severe Charge before of horrible Heresies Delusions vile Impostures ravening Wolves c. against the Quakers note that at last he puts Questions to us about the same Things whereoâ—… he hath accused us which he needed not have done had he either been certain or had any such plain or real Advantage against us as he hath pretended His Questions to which he desires direct and distinct Answers are as followeth First Was he the Christ and true Saviour that was born of the Virgin yea or nay Answ. Yes he was the true Christ the Son of God both then and before he took on him that Body or was so born 2dly If you say he Was I query whether that same Christ be in the Heart of every Man and Woman Answ. The same Christ is spiritually in yea revealed and dwelling in the Hearts of true Believers and Saints and they in him but not so in every man though he enlightens every Man and in his Light he is to be revealed and known 3dly Whether he that you own to be the Christ and true Saviour was put to death or Crucified on the Cross Answ. As concerning the Flesh he was 4thy Whether you believe there is any other Christ then what is in the heart of man yea or nay Answ. The true Christ is but one and the same forever though variously manifested as both in the Flesh and in the Spirit both In his Flesh or Body Intirely wherein he came unto his own the Jews who received him not and spiritually in his followers who have received him for he said to his Disciples he that is with you shall be in you and to his Father I in them and thou in me c. that the Love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them and I in them but thus not universally In Man though in some Degree and Sence he appears universally in man 5thly If that Body that was nailed to the Cross was but as a Garment which the true Christ did wear or as a House in which he did dwell why may not any other Man in whose Flesh Christ is manifested and doth dwell be called the Christ as well as Jesus of Nazareth Answ. There 's not the same Reason for any other man to be Called the Christ. 1st Because of his divine Pre-existence both before he took upon him that Body or Flesh and before man or other things were made which God created by Jesus Christ. 2dly Because of his Miraculous Conception as Concerning that Body 3dly Because he was anointed with the Oyl of Gladness above his Fellows Lastly He that compared that Body or Flesh which he took upon him to a Garment or House intended no Detraction from the Honour or Dignity of the true Christ for his Flesh was called the Vail his Body the Body of Jesus this Temple the Form of a Servant and his Saints are his Members 6thly If you own the man Christ why do you affirm it a Contradiction to say he is God of the Substance of the Father and yet truly man made like unto us in all things sin only excepted For either he must be meer Man or 〈◊〉 or else it cannot be any Contradiction And if you say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Man then you seem to side with those Jews that 〈◊〉 Saviour for Blasphemy in that being a Man he made 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Joh. â—…0 33. and if you say he is meer God doth it not then clearly follow you deny the man Christ Answ. Thou hast herein Queried like a disingenious Shuffler to obscure thy own self-Contradiction and to reproach us whereas thy Contradiction was not between Jesus Christ's being of the Substance of the Father and yet truly Man in time but between his being from everlasting the Son of God by eternal generation or of the substance of the Father and thy asserting that Jesus Christ consisteth of human Flesh and Bone which to be sure the Substance of the Father doth not consist of But Let H. G. and his Assistants Shuffle off this Contradiction if they can But 't is no Contradiction to say that the Son of God in his divine being is God and that he took upon him the pure being of Man and a body prepared for him and is the heavenly Man the Anointed of God 7thly I query whether you own any other Resurrection then what you say you experience within Answ. We believe and own a farther Attainment of the Resurrection which with respect to a future State in Glory may be called another then what we yet experience though we have attained to a good Degree and Experience of our rising in and with Christ who is the Resurrection and the Life and in him is the Saints everlasting Rest and Glory 8thly Whether you believe that that body of Flesh and Bone which is laid in the Grave respecting the Matter or Substance of it shall by the mighty Power of God be raised from the dead at thelast day Answ. As Flesh and Blood shall not inherit the Kingdome of God so I query how the same Flesh and Bone 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…lood should inherit the Kingdome of God or how 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 be the same Flesh Blood and Bones after 〈◊〉 to dust without any new Creation as some Baptists affirm 9thly Whether that man whosoever he be doth not deny the Refurrection of the dead who doth deny the same IT which is sown and shall rise mentioned 1 Cor. 5. 38. 〈◊〉 Intend the same Body respecting the Matter or Substance of it which was buried and laid in the Grave Answer plainly without Equivocation Answ. There is an Ambiguity and Fallacy in this Question for in some Sence a
Man may deny that the self same IT which is sown shall rise as the Apostle did where he answered such Querists as thou art Thou Fool thou sowest not that Body that shall be for which he Instanceth Wheat or other Grain and yet not deny that IT which is raised nor the Resurrection of the dead though that IT which is the natural Body and that IT which is the spiritual Body are not both one and the self same neither are celestial and â—…errestrial Bodies one and the same And what that IT is to which God giveth a Body as it pleaseth him and to every Seed his proper Body And what is that body given to it these Baptists have not yet resolved nor given a sensible Answer to Although Thd. Hicks faith That the Body given to it is the same for Substance the same that was sown viz. the body of Flesh and Boneâ—… In this many of them agree But their Elder Brother Thomas Collier appears of another mind in his Marrow of Christianity where concerning the Resurrection he saith This Truth is by some denyed and by others too carnally looked upon some thinking that our Bodies of Flesh shall be raised in the same Form in which it dyed c. p. 93. And further he saith That the Form in which they shall be raised that is in a Spiritual Form not in a Fleshly for as the Spirit of Christ raiseth us up in the Sâ—…irit while we are here so it shall raise up our Bodies in the Spirit at the Last Day it is Sown a Natural Body it is raised a Spiritual Body c. p. 94. Col. 3. 3. When Christ who is our Life shall apear we shall appear with him in Glory all Flesh shall be swallowed up in Spirit and our Bodies shall be changed and made like his Glorious Body all things that offend shall be done away and we shall be made Eternal one in the Father and in the Son and in the Spirit c. One in Glory this for the Saints is enough to know besides what shall be we do not know it is an Height and Depth a Length and Breadth unsearchable p. 95 Thus far Tho. Collier These passages of his I desire that Henry Grigg Thomas Hicks and William Burnet c. may consider and compare with their own carnal Conceits and Doctrines about the same Flesh and see how Inconsistent they are It s evident that Thomas Collier did aim at more Spirituallity in the Resurrection then these men do he confessing It should be in a Spiritual Form and not in a Fleshly and that it is by some too carnally lookt upon c. And Indeed it is too much Carnality and Grosness of Opinions and Thoughts that darken too many from a spiritual Apprehension and divine Understanding of Things Eternal and States Immortal which are only and truly seen in the Light which is Divine and Revealed by the Eternal Spirit through which â—…nly the things of God are Truly Known THE CONTENTS OF A Bill of Excommunication Exhibited by the Baptists at CHICHESTER Together with a Brief Answer thereunto THe Evils for which the Church of Christ Meeting at Chichester have cast out of her Communion John Richardson Answ. We deny you to be the Church of Christ you do but presume and beg the Matter in Controversie you are in Envy and Darkeness as will further appear from your Blasphemy against the Light for if we say we have Fellowship with God and walk in Darkness we lye and do not the Truth but you pretend your selves to be his Church consequently to have Fellowship with him and yet both walk in Darkness and slight the Light within and dispise Exhortation to harken to it therefore you lye in saying you are the Church of Christ and do not the Truth so that in the Name and Power of the Lord Jesus Christ we deny your pretended Power and Authority of Excommunication and Condemnation First For withdrawing himself from the Church of Christ refusing to come to her Assemblies which practise is sin Answ. You blind and confused Men did you not say just before that your Church had cast him out of her Communion but now you excommunicate him for withdrawing himself from you It seems then he excommunicated himself there was no need of your Excommunication 2dly For siding and taking Part with William Steel in some of these things for which the Church did deal with W. S. Answ. What these things are will further appear hereafter together with these Baptist's Envy and gross Ignorance 3dly For siding owning and mixing with the People called Quakers who are of diabolical heritical Opinions who under Pretence of Preaching up that all Persons should harken to a Light within do say that Light is Christ. Answ. Oh you malicious Blasphemers you dark Cheats and blind Guides is it either diabolical or heretical to preach that all Persons should hearken to a Light within Or that Christ is that true Light that enlighteneth every Man coming into the World For that 's the Quakers Doctrine and that in him was Life and the Life was the Light of Men is it diabolical that they should take heed to this Life or Light which is both supernatural and divine Oh you dark sottish NightDreamers when will you come out of your gross Darkness In which saying of theirs there is these two abominable Lyes first Lye is their saying that Christ is in every Man that cometh into the World whereas the Scriptures say where Christ is in Persons the Body is dead to sin c. there is a People without God and Christ in a reprobate State in a Course of Life unapproved of God though under a Profession as the Church at Corinth was surely then may such be accounted without Christ that are neither under a Profession nor Practice Answ. 1 You might as well deny Christ's Divinity and Deity or his being the Eternal Word as deny him to be that Light that enlightens every Man or his Life to be the Light of Men. 2. Again It s not our Doctrine to say that Christ is so in every Man prevailing or ruling as that the Body is dead to Sin nor is he revealedly or unitedly in every man which the Phraise Christ in you or Christ dwelling in you imports and includes the Saints being in him as he saith I in them and they in me yet in some Sence he is in all and through all or else he could not be God nor Omni-present and some Baptists themselves have confest that Christ in Respect of his divine Nature is every where therefore he must needs be in Man and in Respect to his divine Nature he is God and God is Light and in him is no Darkness at all They that are without God and without Christ and Reprobates c. Ephes. 2. 11 12. 2 Cor. 13. 5. 2 Joh. 9. they are without God and Christ or as being Strangers to both and without
eternal Advantage unless his Carnal or Terrestrial Body that now is partake thereof and how shall it partake thereof after it is dissolved and turned to Dust He tells us It cannot be a new Created Body but a Resurrection Of what he would have it of the self-same Body for Substance But if there must be no new Creation but a Resurrection of these Carnal Bodies opposed to Creation it must only be a raising of the Dust of these Bodies and then what a sad Garment would this invest the Souls of the Righteous with But if on second Thoughts he will admit of any new Creation of Bodies out of the Dust this cannot imply that they shall be the very self same that now they are in Matter and Form But if any of them shall yet say They shall be specifically the same Bodies That varies from their Principle of being the self-same that now they are What is now become of this Man's Religion and whereon do his Expectations of a future Advantage depend but upon his Ignorant and Carnal Conceptions and not upon any living Sence of Christ or any spiritual or divine Understanding of the Mystery of the Resurrection whose Work is gross Body and not Spirit He reckons our Religion and Suffering to be for a Carnal Interest while his empty Faith and Profession is for the same to be sure being so much for the Promotion of his Carnal Body in eternal Glory which 't is not capable of nor he in the Way to it Such is the course of some carnal Cavillers who while contending about Bodies and musing how they shall exist in Heaven they are now neglecting the Way thither more busying themselves about their carnal Bodies then regarding their poor Souls or minding the Spirit of Holiness thereby to become Sons of God and of the Resurrection or to be converted from Sin and Pollution to Holiness or turned from Satan's Power to God which is the Way to Glory And now in short to answer what we and our Religion are charged within the Conclusion of our Adversary's bitter reviling Dialogue First We testifie that the Resurrection is not past 2dly That the Soul of Man is not God nor Christ but God is the Saviour of it and so we alwayes since we knew our own Souls have distinguished between the Soul and the Saviour of it 3dly That we confess future and distinct Beings after Death as well of Men as of Angels and that the Children of God and of the Resurrection shall in the World to come be as the Angels yea equal to them 4thly Though it be said Thou sowest not that Body that shall be and Flesh and Blood shall not inherit the Kingdom of God 1 Cor. 15. It doth not therefore follow that our Religion denies any eternal Advantage that is to be reaped much less that it is a Cheat or Calculated to the Service of the Devil as most wickedly and malitiously T. H. hath reviled and blasphemed that Religion and Testimony which we know is given us of God for we have not by distinguishing between the Natural and Spiritual Bodies denyed the Saints their proper Existences Spiritual Body or House eternal in the Heavens when the Earthly Tabernacle is dissolved and unless the Man holds the Mortality of the Soul that it dyes with the Body or the extinguishing of the spiritual Being of Man I do not see how he can suppose a denying of any eternal Advantage on our parts unless he place it all upon the Earthly Body It is true that some of his Brethren do hold that the Soul dyes with the Body and sleeps in the Dust till both be raised and this also depriveth all the Saints deceased from having any eternal Advantage in the mean time at least But we are not of that Faith Hope or Religion that will expire or perish with the Carnal Body as our Opposers will who in his fruitless carnal Work and Discourse consists more of and for gross Body then Spirit he is too carnal gross in his Apprehensions to discern so much as a Vision of the future Beings and State of Saints But both they that think they shall reap no Eternal Advantage without their Terrestrial Bodies of Flesh and Blood as T. H. pag. 75. And they who hold the Mortality of the Soul are not of the Apostle's mind and Spirit who said We know that if our earthly House of this Tabernacle were dissolved we have a Building of God an House not made with Hands eternal in the Heavens 2 Cor. 5. 1. We are confident I say and willing rather to be absent from the Body and to be present with the Lord ver 8. For to me to live is Christ and to dye 〈◊〉 Gain but if I live in the Flesh this is the Fruit of my Labour Yet what I shall Chuse I wote not for I am in a straight betwixt two having a Desire to depart and to be with Christ which is far better Phil. 1. 21 22 23. Mark here First he expected a far better and more excellent House then the Earthly House after Dissolution 2dly If to dye was Gain to him and to depart from the Flesh desirable and so out of it to be with Christ far better he did not place his Felicity upon the Flesh or carnal Body as T. H. doth neither did the Apostle so indeavour to magnifie that fleshly outside Cloathing which is perishing and dissolvable but his earnest Expectation and Hope was on the behalf of Christ and his future Gain in him saying Christ shall be magnified in my Body whether by Life or by Death Phil. 1 20. But T. H. his carnal Contest is for magnifying his earthly carnal Body and not for magnifying Christ therein for he scornfully slights our witnessing Christ and his being risen in us though it is evident the Apostle did not place his eternal Felicity and Advantage upon the Earthly House Flesh or carnal Body that perishes and turns to Dust for if he set his Heart upon Man if he gather unto himself his Spirit his Breath all Flesh shall perish together and Man shall turn again unto Dust Job 34. 14 15. But T. H. sees no Eternal Advantage to be reapt by Persons after Death unless they confess the Resurrection of the very self-same Flesh Blood and Bones that dyes corrupts and turns to Dust If he intends any Blood in it he will admit of no new Creation of it and by this his Religion and Hope do expire and perish with his corrupt Body and must only be renewed when the Dust of that Body shall be raised without Creating it a new Body And if there be no eternal Advantage without this kind of Resurrection as described by him this doth either wholly deny the Original and Spiritual Being of Man and comprehends the whole Man only as consisting of a mortal and perishing Body or else admits not of the reasonable Soul really to injoy her self in any condition out of the outside
perishing Vesture or decay'd Cloathing which for Man to be divested of can be no more Loss to him as to his immortal Being then 't is to the Wheat to dye bring forth much Fruit unto which Resurrection is applicable as well as to Man though not to the Sameness of Body And as it cannot unman a Man to put off his Old Cloathing that he may put on New no more can it annihilate our Spiritual Existences to have the Earthly Cloathing put off and dissolved but be to our far greater Advantage Glory to be invested with that Spiritual Transcendent Cloathing most Excellent House Eternal in the Heavens which State they only attain to who become Sons of God and of the Resurrection and desire Christ may be magnified in their Bodies here And furthermore from that Belief and Discovery I have received in the true Light of the Resurrection and future Rewards according to the holy Scripture I desire it may be minded that God commandeth all Men every where in their Day and Time to Repent because he hath appointed a Day in the which he will judge the World in Righteousness by that Man whom he hath ordained So that there will be a Day of Judgment Wrath and Perdition of the Ungodly unto which Day the Lord Knoweth how to Reserve the Unjust to be punished and this will be a Terrible Day to all that make Lyes their Refuge and reject the universal Call of God to Repentance And seeing that in the Great Day of the Lord a final Dissolution may be expected of all those things that are perishing and dissolvable even of the Heavens and the Earth and that they shall be changed what manner of Persons ought we to be here in all Holy Conversation and Godliness After T. H. hath vented his Blasphemous Out-rage against our Religion as before in his Catechism he impudently abuseth and bespattereth our Sufferings p. 75. where he thus questioneth viz. Tell me what it is that doth influence and prevail with you to Do and Suffer as you do And then he makes us thus to answer viz. Answ. What doest thou think it should be And then he thus proceeds Quest. May not the Satisfaction of your Wills and Lusts the Promoting your Carnal Interests be your chief Motive and Inducement And then he makes the Answer thus Answ. We deny the Flesh and the Lusts This is thy own Dark Imagination And then he proceeds again Quest. May not you live in and fulfil the Lusts of the Flesh whilst you deny it in Words since your Opinion denies any eternal Advantage to be reaped by Persons after Death in denying the Resurrection of this Body Must you not then have respect to something to be injoyed here as your Incouragement p. 75. Rep. The Malice Falsehood and Absurdity of these Forgeries against the real Intent and End of our Sufferings Thousands may testifie against and all Impartial Readers that know us and have beheld our deep Sufferings may perceive the Man's Envy Considering the great Number of our Friends that have dyed in Prisons and the many hundreds that have been ruined and spoiled in their Estates and Callings could these be either consistent with Lusts or carnal Interest and the many that have been banished and many Families undone besides the many that have been knocked down Bruised and Beaten in the streets and their Lives often hazarded and resigned up for Meeting in the Fear of God Could these things be endured for a Carnal Interest No No but meerly upon a Religious and Conscientious Account wherein we have eyed the Glory of God and our own Peace andfturue Happiness If we did not own any Resurrection eternal Advantage or Existences hereafter what should we suffer for we were of all men most miserable If we were of that Atheistical Opinion instead of chusing our Great Sufferings we should have chosen this viz. Let us Eat Drink for tomorrow we dye 1 Cor. 15. 19 32. It may be easily judged whether we are justly reflected upon or no as being influenced either to satisfie our Wills or promote carnal Interest or to fulfil the Lusts of the Flesh or obtain any temporal Injoyment here by our Losses Sufferings These gross abusive Slanders are so apparent that he that runs may read them being also manifestly detected by our apparently often resigning up our Estates Liberties and Lives also in Times of deep Suffering when we could see no publick Appearance of such as T. H. and many of his Brethren before the face of Persecution but then they could sculke creep into Corners and Obscure themselves and leave all the Burden upon uâ—… there being but a few Baptists that did suffer in the late Tryal sor their Religion or Consciences Though to give them their due a few of them have suffered Imprisonment some whereof have received the Benefit of our Labours among our Friends in a late General Discharge but the most cowardly and base-spirited among them are now most Quarrelsom against us and why They have lost Ground by their Carnal Policy in Obscuring themselves in Stormy Times which they are never like to regain but still to looâ—…e more by Fretting and Struggling against us and therefore T. H. is offended that our Number should now augment though that he cannot hinder for the Hand of the Lord is in it And many having seen the Coldness of Baptists Zeal Night-Dipping and their Timorous Creeping and Securing themselves in Suffering Times as also the Emptiness and Dryness of their Religion Divers are aweary thereof And when they come among us to receive the Sence of God's Power then divers of the Baptist-Teachers do fret and are Angry eagerly besetting the Parties And in that God hath made our Sufferings effectual for his Name Truth sake for the drawing many after it T. H. endeavours in the Malice of Sathan to debase and render our Sufferings Odious saying He believes our Carnal Advantage is one greaâ—… Thing in our Eye And then he adds Quest. Though you may sustain some outward Losses yet whether you have not a Way to augment your Outward Gain by Loosing pag. 75. Reply He now questioneth that which before he saith he believeth as namely That Carnal Advantage is one great Thing in our Eye One Great Thing implyeth some thing else but What else he leaves no place for in what he hath concluded before to wit That we have regard only to something to be injoyed 〈◊〉 afterward he falsly rekons Carnal Advantages to be One great Thing in our Eye and then questions the Matter surmised and before believed by him as Whether we have not a Way to augment our outward Gain by Loosing and thus bewrayes his own Guilt Falsehood and Wickedness in his Traducing a People or whole Body of us and Reproaching our Conscientious Sufferings though it is known that Carnal Interest and Advantage is a great thing in the eye of divers Baptist-Preachers while they
that Resurrection Quickening Reviving Changing Translation do not signifie Creation therefore they are not applicable to the Dust of Bodies after Dissolution though both Resurrection and new Creation be to Renewed man Behold I make All things new New Man New Creation New Heavens and New Earth c. but this is a Mystery hid from corrupt Flesh so much contended for by our Present Opposers The rest of his Arguments and Doctrines are mostly very weak and ignorant about this Point yet comprehensively answered in this Book Here follow some Passages out of a Manuscript by W. B. against me with a Reply detecting his Ignorance in consounding the Carnal Body and the Spiritual W. B. INdeed If G. Whitehead hath found out a Body for Christ that is not a Carnal Body which implies only a Fleshly It is such a Body that I never read oâ—… in the Scriptures I would know what in Scripture is called the Body but the Flesh Now take but away the Flesh and where is the Body Aye but saith G. W. It is a spiritual Body as if a Body of Flesh and a Spiritual could not stand together This is his Great mistake The Apostle could have born his Testimony to this Truth that it is the Body of Flesh that shall be raised spiritual 1 Cor. 15. 14 43. It is sown a natural Body 't is raised spiritual here the Apostle still keeps to the Word It c. Answ. The Non-sense and Contradiction that may be gathered from these Passages is that Christ's Body is a Carnal Spiritual Body as if Carnal and Spiritual were both one or that the Spiritual Body that 's raised or given to the Seed is Carnal Let these Passages be kept in Record as the Baptists Doctrine and Testimony whereas the Apostle's own Testimony proves the Contrary and that W. B. has belyed the Apostle For 't is sown a natural Body it is raised a spiritual and there is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body Here the Apostle clearly makes a Distinction and a Difference between the natural Body and the spiritual He doth not say 't is sown a natural Body and raised a natural or Carnal Body also but a spiritual Body as he also distinguisheth between the Bodies Celestial and the Bodies Terrestrial as those of Sun Moon and Stars differ from those of Men Beasts and Fishes Now you would count him a very blind Philosopher that should make no Difference but say they are all one and consistent or that the Bodies of Sun Moon and Stars were all one with those Earthly Bodies of Men and other Creatures and so blind and such Ignorant Divines are these Baptist's He understands not the Difference between the Natural Body and the Spiritual any more then if a Person should be so ignorant as when he sees the Sun or Moon or Stars To ask if these were not Men or Birds or Beasts or Fishes in the Firmament or on the contrary if he should see Men Beasts and Fishes to ask if these are not the Sun Moon and Stars or rather to conclude that they are because he knows not which are Celestial and which Teriestrial no more then this Baptist doth discern between Bodies natural or carnal and Bodies spiritual But how should he do other or see better while his Mind is so much upon Flesh and so little upon Spirit or so much upon Flesh and Blood which cannot inherit the Kingdom of God and so little upon that spiritual Birth or Seed that doth inherit the Kingdom of Glory and Peace And as for the Baptists Argument That the Apostle still keeps to the Word IT as It is sown a natural Body It is raised a spiritual or God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him and to every Seed his own Body Reply How evident is it that as the Particle It is used as a Relative to both the natural and spiritual Body 't is a mutable It for that there is a natural Body and there is a spiritual Body which therefore are not the self-same the very Parable or Instance of the Wheat and other Grain may confute his Opinion herein For is it the very self-same Grain of Wheat that is in the Eare that was sown in the Ground Let the Husband-Men judge him herein To him we may say as the Apostle did in the same Case to such O Fool thou sowest not that Body that shall be c. 1 Cor. 15. And now the words It 's sown imply a Seed sown in order to a sprouting and bringing forth Increase Upon which it may be queried if that Body of Man to wit that of Flesh Blood and Bones that 's laid in the Grave or drowned in the Sea or devoured by Fire and some by Beast's c. be the Seed that the Apostle intended to which God giveth a Body as it pleaseth him yea or nay If it be answered in the Affirmative then what Body is it that God giveth to it as it pleaseth him If it be answered in the Negative that overthrows the Baptists Doctrine of the same Flesh Blood and Bones c. which W. B. has not distinguished from a spiritual Body THE RESURRECTION Future Glory and Felicity of the SAINTS Further asserted according to the Holy Scriptures Discovering How far short of the true Vision Sight or Revelation thereof our present Opposers are in their gross Thoughts and Traditional Conjectures Being An Examination of Thomas Danson ' s Arguments and Doctrines about the Resurrection Future State and Glory of Believers in his Synopsis THe Resurrection as plentifully asserted in the Scriptures is not in the least question'd by us however we be unjustly censur'd for denying it Therefore there is no necessity of his Argument to evince that which as he saith the Scripture is so plentiful in asserting of nor doth he evince it according to the Scriptures but varies from them as will appear His Argument If the Bodies that have done Good or Evil must receive their Reward accordingly then the same Bodies that dye must rise again But the Antecedent is true therefore the Consequent Answ. This Argument both Antecedent and Consequent appears neither clear nor grounded upon Truth as it placeth an Eternal Reward upon the Body for its temporal Acts in putting the Body on this account for Man that hath acted therein who must receive the things done in the Body 2 Cor. 5. 10. The meer Terrestrial Body being neither the Subject reteining Perpetual Love or Enmity to God nor is it the Original Cause of Good or Evil Actions therefore not the Object of eternal Love or Wrath but Man in his Spiritual Existence or Being as spiritually and suitably organized as it pleaseth God to receive the things done in his Body according to what he hath done whether it be Good or Evil proper and natural to the Image he bears which the Soul carries along with it out of the Earthly Body or House that turns to Dust But see the Proof of his Antecedent That
the Bodies that have done Good or Evil must receive their Reward accordingly which Proposition is the Antecedent is evident by 2 Cor. 5. 10. and then the Consequence is firm c. Rep. He hath manifestly perverted the Text it doth not say The Bodies must receive their Reward accordingly though in some Sense it may be granted according to their temporal Actions But we must all appear before the Judgment-seat of Christ that every one may receive the Things done IN his Body according to that he hath done whether it be Good or Bad 2 Cor. 5. 10. And but a few words before he saith We are coâ—…fident I say and willing rather to be Absent from the Body and to be Present with the Lord ver 8. Wherefore he knew that they were Capable both of a Being and Reward with the Lord when absent from the Body and that as when in the Body they had found Acceptance with him they received the Deeds done in the Body when out of it to Dye being Gain unto them Every man's Works shall follow him the Nature of them shall remain in him whether it be Good or Evil that he Lives and Dies in The Soul spiritually hath its proper Organ Vessel or Body wherein either the Habit of Good or Evil Holiness or Filthiness cleaves to it and wherein accordingly it retains either Mercy or Wrath Love or Hatred from God when the earthly Mansion or House is destroyed turned to Dust as it was there being a House or Cloathing that cleaves more closely to the Soul then Dust can and it will come to pass that he that will be filthy must be filthy still and he that is Holy let him be Holy still Behold I come quickly and my Reward is with me to give every man according as his Work shall be Rev. 22. 11 12. Rom 2. 6. And therefore Wo will be to their Souls who reward Evil to themselves and whose Souls delight in their Abominations and Tribulation and Anguish upon every Soul of Man that doth Evil of the Jew first and also of the Gentile but Glory Honour and Peace to every man that Worketh Good to the Jew first and also to the Gentile Rom. 2. 8 9 10. But to procced to T. D's further Proof of his Antecedent and Consequent which to Ordinary Readers he saith may seem inconsequent by which then he must be more then an ordinary Writer The Place he cites is Mat. 22. 31 32. T. D. For the surther Proof of Antecedent and Consequent I shall first explain the Terms of Christ's Argument c. The Place is Mat. 22. 31 32. As touching their Resurrection from the Dead have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God saying I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob God is not the God of the Dead but of the Living And it is added Luk. 20. 38. for all live unto him This Passage he thus explains viz. 1. To be a God to Abraham notes a Covenant-Relation Answ. True and then it follows that they who are in this Covenant-Relation are those that live to him whom he is the God of Wheresore Abraham Isaac Jacob and all Partakers of the same Covenant live unto God in Union of Spirit and with the Spirits of all Just Men though in a more full injoyment of Glory hereafter as Abraham c. is not dead because God is his God and he in Possession of Eternal Glory 2. Not the God of the Dead He saith that might be meant either of them who are Dead simply or of them that are so dead as that they shall never return to Life not in the former Sense therefore in the Latter Are we therefore as by this to read the Words thus viz. God is not the God of the Dead that are so Dead as that they shall never return to Life but of the Dead that shall return to Life And then what are those Dead that shall never return to Life Or those Dead that God is not the God of if the Living and Dead must all be applyed to the Outward or Earthly Bodies But had he been sensible of his Sense before that to be a God to Abraham and so of the Living notes a Covenant-Relation and that Christ speaks of such as shall be accounted worthy to obtain that World and the Resurrection Luk. 20. 35. he might have understood that the Dead whom he is not the God of are such as are Strangers to that Covenant-Relation and live not to God however their Souls be Immortal 3. But of the Living that is saith he of them whom God intends to restore to Life or whose Bodies live potentially not only of them whose Souls live actually for all Live to him c. If the Living must intend the terrestrial Bodies of Abraham Isaac and Jacob then that Denomination Living is given to those that are truly Dead as he saith and then I ask if it be good Doctrine or proper to say that all those dissolved Bodies do live unto God Whereas in Christ's words there is no mention of their Elementary Bodies but that the Dead are raised and that he is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and these were they that Lived unto him who were counted worthy to obtain that World and the Resurrection And it is further evident that when the Saducees who said there is no Resurrection Angel nor Spirit asked Christ about the Wife whose of the Seven She should be in the Resurrection their Thoughts were carnal and upon the Carnal or Earthly Bodies which Christ's Answer did not gratifie in his asserting the Resurrection as to the State of the Righteous after this Life He said The Children of this World marry and are given in Marriage But they which shall be counted worthy to obtain that World and the Resurrection from the Dead neither Marry nor are given in Marriage Neither can they dye any more for they are equal unto the Angels and are the Children of God being the Children of the Resurrection Luk. 20. 35 36. 1. Note here first That he speaks of a Resurrection-state in the World to come wherein the Children of God so much excel in their Beings as that they are equal unto the Angels whose Bodies are not such as these Earthly ones of the Children of this World wherein they Marry but in that World they are in another Capacity more Sublime and Spiritual even Equal unto the Angels whereby Christ doth not only assert the Resurrection and an Immortal State but also the Spirituality and Glory thereof far Transcending this earthly State and Body 2. As thus considered it is plainly implied that there are but some that are counted worthy to obtain that World and the Resurrection that is the Children of God who live unto him as Paul saith if by any means I might attain unto the Resurrection of the Dead Phil. 3. 10 11. Now therefore to apply this Resurrection to the
Terrestrial Body of the Righteous and hence to argue for Immortalizing that Dust which that Body returns to it implieth thus much that Only the Bodies of the Children of God who are counted worthy shall rise and how agrees this with our Opposers Intention 3. Moreover while Christ intended by his Answer that those that were counted Worthy c. even the Children of God and such as lived unto God were the Children of the Resurrection and that they cannot dye any more c. This agrees with his Answer to Martha Joh. 11. 24 25 26. I am the Resurrection and the Life he that believeth in me though he were dead yet shall he Live and who soever liveth and believeth in me shall never dye Though this be a plain asserting of the Resurrection yea and that of the Dead yet it is as plain a Diversion as far remote from the carnal and gross Thoughts and Apprehension that the Jews in that Age had of the Resurrection as his Answer to the Saducees was from their gross Thoughts about it Concerning the Scope of these words of Christ before cited He saith There are different Apprehensions Some conceive that Christ hereby proves the Immortality of the Soul which the Saducees denyed as appears Act. 23. 8. for if there be no Soul of a Spiritual Nature in Man it must needs be Mortal as his Body and by Consequence the Resurrection of the Body The Saducees denying the Resurrection of the Body because they denied the Immortality of the Soul as these Interpreters conceive Others that Christ intends only to prove the Resurrection of the Body So Calvin Others that Christ intends both directly So Beza Diodati And from these Differences T. D. differently frames his Argument several times p. 76. From hence it is observable that this Man not seeing with his own Eyes proceeds to argue doubtfully from the different Apprehensions and Conceptions of others viz. Some Conceiving 1. That Christ hereby proves the Immortality of the Soul and by Consequence only the Resurrection of the Body 2. Others that Christ intends only to prove the Resurrection of the Body 3. Others that he intends both directly See how these Learned Men and Students differ and oppose each other in their Apprehensions and Conceivings and what Certainty can we expect from T. D. their Schollar And how came he to undertake such a Controversie about such a weighty and mysterious Point upon such dubious and uncertain Grounds as only mens different Apprehensions Conceivings and Consequences can produce or amount to which argues more Confidence then Knowledge in him And T. D. to vary his Arguments thereupon from his uncertain Conjectures and fallible Judgment as with him it is either thus or else thus or more plainly thus c. 1. They whos 's God God is shall rise from the Dead God is Abraham's Isaac's and Jacob's God Therefore they and all other Believers shall rise again Or else thus 2. They whos 's God God is after Death shall Rise again c. 3. Or the Argument may be framed more plainly thus viz. If God be under a Promise to Glorifie the Persons of Abraham Isaac and Jacob then their Bodies must rise again but God is under such a Promise Ergo pag. 77. Answ. 1. That God is the God of the Living both of Abraham and all Believers 2. They all live unto God in Righteousnes here and Glory hereafter 3. He that liveth and believeth in me saith Christ shall never dye These prove the blessed Resurrection of the Children of God who are Children of the Resurrection But what Proof hath he produced herein of the self-same Earthly numerical Body's rising His Assertion being the Resurrection of the Body in general his Proof is the Resurrection of those whom God is the God of viz. Believers and that their Body must be glorified which so far as Christ intends is granted That in the World to come they are equal unto the Angels what is this to the Earthly Elementary Bodies of all in general which Angels do far surmount and transcend in Glory Neither hath he by all that he hath said proved that the Promise of Eternal Glory he mentions extends to the same Earthly Body of Flesh and Blood that now is after dissolved to Dust or its first Elements or that it is capable of that Glory which is Eternal though the Believer be as in his Spirituality or spiritual Body glorified Now as touching the Promise of God to Abraham and his Seed it was not only of a Temporal Inheritance or outward Canaan but also of an eternal Inheritance of Life and Glory for the Injoyment whereof they had a two-fold Capacity an Outward and an Inward a Natural and a Spiritual and so far God was their God in each But that the Eternal Glory was promised to the Terrestrial or Natural Body of Abraham c. T. D. though he runs on with it and takes it for granted doth meerly beg the Question as if Abraham in his new Spiritual and Glorious State were but a Part of Abraham and consequently not fully Capable of absolute Felicity without the Dust of his dissolved Cloathing being immortalized I understand not that they 'l admit of any new Creation of it to make it a compleat Body who are of the Anabaptist's mind And after the same manner he may as well say that all the Saints who are said to be in Glory are not perfectly in Glory but only in Part as but part of Abraham part of Isaac part of Jacob part of Moses part of Elias part of Paul c. are in Heaven in Glory or in the Rest which is Glorious and so of all the other as if when Moses and Elias appeared with Christ in the Mount to Peter c. it were not proper or true to say Moses and Elias but Part of Moses Elâ—…as appeared And what Bodies appeared they in were they Human Earthly Bodies or Angelical and by this that they are not as yet absolutely Happy or at Rest without their little earthly Mansions or Tabernacles when they must needs enjoy far better viz. an Heavenly Cloathing and Mansion or House Eternal in the Heavens being the more Spiritualized and changed into Spirituality they are in a higher and more meet Capacity for that Enjoyment T. D. 2. God were not fully Abraham's God or did not fully make good his Promise if he Glorified one Part of Abraham and not another Answ. God in his Glorifying Abraham in a Spiritual Sate and Body that transcends all Earthly Bodies or that part as he calls it of Abraham which is Spiritual and therefore most capable of an Eternal Glory he shews himself to be 〈◊〉 God he being the God of the Spirits of all Flesh and most eminently of his Children and who hath all Souls in his Hand But in Answer to what he saith hereafter let us enquire whether the Promise of God to Abraham and his Sâ—…ed of eternal Glory and Happiness cannot be made
this time when you should be delivered into their Powers TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 3. Come forth all that have neglected Family-VVorship and never sought after God in your closets p. 90. If you had not Ability to Pray at first with others might not you have attained it had you used to Pray by your selves VVas it Curiosity and Elegancy of VVords that God so much looked for Would not Sighs and Groans have been understood p. 91. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 4. Come forth all ye Sabbath-Breakers you that have spent the Day in Sleeping in Eating and Drinking to Excess who instead of Holy Meditations have been thinking and contriving your worldly Business instead of Religious Conferences p. 93. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 5. Come forth all ye Swearers and Prophaners of the Name of God p. 94. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 6. Come forth all ye Scoffers at Religion and the zealous Professors thereof pag. 95. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 7. Come forth all ye Persecutors of my Disciples pag. 96. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 8. Come forth all ye Intemperate and Liscentious Persons p. 97. Come forth all ye 〈◊〉 pag. 98. Come forth ye Drunkards pag. 99. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 9. Come forth all ye Adulterers Come forth all Covetous Persons whose Treasure and Heart and Hope and Confidence hath been in Earthly things who have made the VVorld your God p. 100. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 10. Come forth all ye Unmerciful Persons p. 101. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 11. Come forth all ye Unrighteous Persons who have wronged Widdows and Orphants who have over-reached your Neighbours in your Dealings who have heaped an Estate together by Unrighteous Practices who have squeezed and oppressed the Poor TAKE THEM DLVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 12. Come forth ye Lyars you who have taught and accustomed your selves to this Sin pag. 103. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 13. Come forth all ye Slanderers and Backbiters p. 104. TAKE THEM DEVILS BIND THEM HAND AND FOOT 14. Come forth all ye Proud and Ambitious Persons pag. 105. Take them Devils Bind them Hand and Foot 15. Come forth all ye Envious and Malicious Persons p. 106. Take them Devils 16. Come forth all ye Wrathful and Contentious Persons Take them Devils 17. Come forth all ye Civil and Moral Persons p. 108. Take them Devils 18. Come forth all ye Hypocrites p. 110. Take them Devils 19. Come forth all ye Backsliders and Apostates from me and my Wayes You that turned back to Wayes of Prophaneness and open Wickedness after some time of Profession p. 111. Take them Devils 20. Come forth all ye Impenitent Persons and Unbelievers p. 114. Take them Devils pag. 115. And when the Sentence is pronounced by the Judge upon the Wicked O what direful Shreeks will they give forth With what Horror will they cry out How shall we be able to endure the Devouring Flames and Everlasting Burnings of Hell p. 117. The Torment of the Bodies of the VVicked will be dreadful through the Sence of the Fire which will be kindled about them and burn more horribly then London's Fire did when it had got into the Heart of the City Their Torment will be greater then if scalding Lead p. 135. were poured into their Bowels then if they were torn in pieces with wild Horses then if their Breasts were ripâ—…up and their Hearts were pluckt out with Burning Pincers it will be worse then if they were cast into a Caldron of Boiling Pitch or Lead or put into Phalaris Bull or Nebuchadnezar's Fiery Furnace p. 136. and every Member of the Bodies of the Wicked will be Tormented O how will their Eyes glaze their Tongues roar their Hands and Feet fry their Flesh roast No Part will be free from the Devouring Flames of this Horrible Burning Fire p. 137. Something for the SPIRITUALITY OF THE RESURRECTION Being some Passages touching the NATURE of the BODY OF CHRIST After his RESURRECTION and ASCENSION Whose Glorious Body ours shall Resemble Out of H. Moor's Search into the Nature of a Glorified Body Apol. Chap. 3. pag. 494. of his Modest Enquiry into the Mystery of Iniquity The CONTENTS That it is a Heavenly Body of an Angelical Property a Spiritual Body a Celestial Body That the Heavenliness of the Glorified Body imports the Brightness and Splendor thereof That the Lucidity of these Bodies is also testified by Ancient Fathers he forbears to affirm it to consist of Terrestrial Flesh and Bones but admits of Celestial and Spiritual Flesh and Bones confessing to Paul's Enarration of the Mystery of the Resurrection 1 Cor. 15. IN his Answer touching the Lucidity of Christ's Body after his Ascension he saith The Soul may even enjoy her self out of her Terrestrial Body That the Glorified Body is Organized which he calleth Organized Light That if the Objecter understand Terrestrial Flesh and Bones is it a Fault to deny it That the Body of Christ in Heaven is not Terrestrial Flesh and Bones but of a more refined Nature for the Apostle saith expresly That Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God 1 Cor. 15. 50. That according to Testimony in Scripture we shall find that a Glorified Body or that Body wherewith they shall be rewarded who shall attain to that blessed Resurrection which is the most precious Hope of all true Christians may be dignified with these three Titles Angelical Spiritual and Celestial It is an Angelical Body because the Sons of the Resurrection are said to be in every actual Respect that tends to any real Perfection or Happiness equal unto Angels Lukâ—… 20. 36. viz. not only in that thing of Immortality but the Sons of the Resurrection are absolutely in all such actual Respects as above intimated equal to the Angels nor can the Condition of the Bodies be left out as touching the Nature and Glory of them but a Son of the Resurrection and an Angel must be in every such Regard all one our Saviour seems plainly to assert so much That those that are once the Sons of the Resurrection plainly become Angels thereby for they were Sons of God in a moral or spiritual Sense before It will conduce something to the better understanding of the Nature of a Glorified Body if we make search into Scripture what the Nature of the Angelical Bodies is it is said Psal. 104. Who maketh his 〈◊〉 Spirus and 〈◊〉 Ministers a Flame of Fire Upon which Text Grotâ—…s doth freely and truly I think not unscilfuly comment after this manner Esse Angelis corpora sed subtilissima non Pythagorae tantum Platonis schola sensit sed Judaei veteres Christians c. That the Fathers were of this Opinion Agrippa in his Occulta Philosophia hath also noted That there are many Instances how Igneous and
and the Cause of men's Destruction opened against Arg. 4. Persons being chosen proves not their Eternal Election as Persons p. 260. § 4. Concerning Jacob and Esau Christ's Sheep those that come â—…ome drawn and given unto him of the Father Arg. 5 6. p. 262. § 5. Election explained God's Loving Jacob and hating Esau their Posterities concerned therein and how far the two Births were figured in Jacob and Esau p. 265. § 6. Our Opposer's blasphemously placing a partial Resolution upon God as creating Persons with Intention to leave them to Destruction contrary to his universal Call and Tend rs of Salvation p. 268. § 7. The Unchangeableness of God's Election in what State and our Opposer's Ignorance and Error concerning God's Purpose p. 269. § 8. My Unanswered Objection of setting Life and Death before men and Warning them of Destruction p. 271. § 9. The Cause of God's Hardening Pharaoh Judas and others not grounded upon meer Will and Pleasure but for their Rebellion p. 272. § 10. Touching the Fall of particular Angels and Men the Tendence of God's Long-suffering towards the Wicked and my Opposer's Confession to Truth to the utter Overthrow of his Opinion p. 273. § 11. Presbyters Mockery in their Warnings and setting Life and Death Conditional Promises and Threats before People contrary to their Partial Opinion of an Eternal Personal Election and Reprobation png. 275. Sect. 12. The sad Consequence of their Accusing God with decreeing to deny Saving Grace to particular Persons yea to the greater part of Mankind shewing that Divine Justice it self hath not so decreed pag. 277. § 13. Grace differing from Debt The Reason why God finds Fault with Men The Question Who hath resisted his Will resolved p. 278. § 14. Their urging all to forsake Sin contradictory to their Opinion and not in true Faith Their flattering many with fair Pretences contrary to their own Intentions The poor Encouragement and cold Comfort that their Doctrine of a Personal Reprobation yields to the greatest part of Mankind p. 279. § 15. The Wise God the Just Judge is the Ordainer of the Punishment not of the Fact nor the Author of Sin or their Wickedness who persecuted Christ p. 281. § 16. Hypocritical Priests making and strengthening Hypocrites by deceitfully daubing them up in their Sins and flattering them with a YOU ARE NOT FALLEN FROM GRACE while they are guilty of gross VVickedness p. 283. § 17. Concerning God's Covenant with David and his Seed and the Mystery typified in him p. 284. To all which is added a Short Postscript concerning the WILL of God in its Manifestation 1st as Unresistible 2dly as Resistible p. 286 287 288 289. Chap. VI. VVhether PERFECTION that is a State freed from all Sin be attainable in this Life from p. 290. to p. 312. The Fifth Treatise about the RESURRECTION beginning at pag. 315. to the end of the Book The RESURRECTION owned by us and Scripturally asserted with the Future and distinct Beings of Men Angels and the Eternal Advantage Glory Felicity of the Righteous or Saints after Dissolution The Scriptures spiritual Teftimony thereof being owned and vindicated by us in Opposition to our OPPOSER ' s CARNAL THOUGHTS about the Resurrection and future State particularly in Answer to Tho. Hicks W. Burnet and Thomas Danson Unto which is annexed Thomas Vincent ' s Illustrations about the Resurrection as partly an Explication of the Sense of the rest of our Opposers therein Finally Some Passages of Hen. Moor ' s for the SPIRITUALITY of the Resurrection-Bodies viz. the Body of Christ and the Bodies of Saints The Intent of all this Fifth Treatise being both to remove Groundless Objections Unnecessary Questions and Fruitless Disputes about this Weighty and Mysterious Point of the Resurrection THE CHRISTIAN-QUAKER And his DIVINE TESTIMONY VINDICATED c. Viz. The Universality Sufficiency of Christ's LIGHT WITHIN through all Ages to Eternal SALVATION fully Stated and Defended CHAP. I. The Occasion of the Discourse The Unhandsome Dealing of our Adversary with Respect to the Invented Weakness he chargeth upon the Quakers as the Strength of their Cause THere is a Book lately come to my Hands intituled A Dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker which with several others lately publisht against us hath given Occasion for this general Undertaking I was very curious to peruse that Discourse which should make a Difference between them having in my diligent Search after Religion ever desired to understand and profess That which upon true Convictions I had Reason to believe was the most Christian But as upon Impartial View I found the Weakness of that Book more favourable to us then the Uncharitableness of the Title-Page which seem'd to dis interest a Quaker in Christianity so most unexpectedly I found my Name among others often us'd and as often undeservedly abus'd by the Author I was not willing that any else should answer for my Faults if any there were and if Innocent I esteem'd my self both sufficient and oblig'd to my own Relief which will not be hard to do and the Reason is because so little Reason and so much Railing have been by him imploy'd against me as if he intended to scold rather then confute me and to let the World know how much better skill'd He is in Scurrility then Argument This I confess drew me first into any Willingness of considering his Discourse at large Not that the Truth was not first in mine Eye but because I know the Person most concern'd with him to be both able and resolv'd to reply I thought my Endeavors at least for this time might have been very well excused But so many Out-cries coming upon the Neck of another if possible to expel us the World I found my self press'd in Spirit to buckle my Mind to this Enterprise notwithstanding that my late Concernment with some other Adversaries had left the Wearisomness of a Combat upon my Spirit and the Hopes I had of being spared by the ingenuous Acknowledgment of our Enemies from the like Necessity of further Controversie But as it fell out with the People of Syracuse that several very Bad Tyrants were succeded by Worse so truly it hath done with us The Confutation of one Adversary redoubling Envy Prejudice and almost every evil Quality in the next as if to be overcome were more intollerable to them then to find the TRUTH by it would be Acceptable Oh Lamentable Use that these Men make of our Love and Pains But we have some Cause to think that failing of that Reason which is necessary to prop so infirm a Cause they would if possible supply the Want of it with the LAST WORD which at Billings Gate I hear goeth a Great Way to Advantage and turn the Scale in all Disputes And truly if the Temper of this Adversary be but consider'd with what Help he himself has given us to do it For my part I should stand amaz'd that any Sober Civil or Christian Man could refrain passing
is Light 2. Who can have no Fellowship with him such as walk in Darkness that is Sin 3. Who have Fellowship with him such as walk in the Light as he is Light 4. the Reason why is given because such as walk in the Light are there sure experimentally to feel the Vertue of Christ's Blood to cleanse them from all Unrightcousness Where observe that the Light 's leading out of Darkness that is Unrighteousness is the same with the Blood of Jesus Christ cleansing from all Sin Sin and Darkness and to be cleansed from the one and to be translated from the other is equivalent otherwise a Man might be delivered from Darkness and walk in the Light and not be cleansed from Sin which is that Darkness a thing Absurd and Impossible In short they go together By this 't is evident that the Light being walkt in doth directly lead to God and Fellowship with him who is the Saving Light and Health of all Nations and consequently that the Light leads to Eternal Salvation Many are the Denominations that are given in Scripture to one and the same Being or Condition Christ is called The Word the Light the Saviour Emanuel a Rock a Door a Vine a Shepherd c. A State of Sin is sometimes called Darkness Death Disobedience Barrenness Rebellion Stiff-neckedness Eating of Sowr Grapes And Wicked Men Bryars Thorns Thistles Tares Dead Trees Wolves Goats c. On the contrary a State of Conversion is sometimes expressed by such words as Purged Refined Washed Cleansed Sanctified Justified Led by the Spirit Baptized by one Spirit into one Body Regenerated Redeemed Saved Bought with a Price c. And Persons so qualified The Children of God Children of Light Heirs of Glory Lambs Sheep Wheat And that by which they become or continue thus Light Spirit Fire Sword Hammer Power Grace Seed Truth Way Life Blood Water Bread Word Unction that leadeth into all Truth All which respectively is but one and the same in Nature That is Sin or a Sinful State is so variously denominated from the divers Operations and Discoveries of the Nature of it in Wicked Men. The like may be said of the several Vertues in Good and Holy Men and so of that one Divine Principle which so qualifies and preserves them For as the Primitive Saints felt the Operation of the One Holy Principle so they denominated it to men in Darkness they call'd it Light to such as believed and obeyed It became a Leader and those who witnessed their Sins conquer'd their Lusts cut down their Hearts broken and their Souls Washed Redeemed and daily Nourished they called that Divine Principle a Sword Fire Hammer Water Flesh Blood and Bread and Seed of Life In short The same Heavenly Principle became Light Wisdom Power Counsel Redemption Sanctification and Eternal Salvation unto those who believed in it So that the Variety of Expressions in the Scriptures must not be taken for so many distinct things in kind no nor sometimes in Operation And indeed notwithstanding that Light T. Hicks would have lodg'd in the bare Scriptures exclusive of the Spirit all the Men of the World met together would be confounded to give a true Account of the Matter therein contained if they were not Living Experimental Witnesses For as he is not an Evidence sufficient in Laws Humane that was not an Eye or Ear Witness neither are they Evidences for God and Christ who are not Eye and Ear Witnesses of the Light Spirit Grace and Word of God in the Heart And I boldly affirm the Scriptures speak no more for such as are not Inheritors of that Blessed Condition they declare of in some Measure or other then any Deed of Gift would do for a Person no wayes Nam'd or Interested therein It is time then for T. Hicks and his Partners to look about them lest the Midnight-Cry overtake them and their Professing Lamp be found without Oyl For I must needs tell him in the Beloved Disciple's Language He that saith he is in the Light and 〈◊〉 his Brother is in the Darkness even until now And in my own Language That I take that to be their State who shew so much Envious Displeasure against an Harmless People and those in particular that never yet Offended much less Justly provokt them But would they bring their Thoughts Words and Deeds to the Light in their own Consciences and let true Judgment pass upon them and patiently undergo the Heavenly Chastisements for their Disobedience to and Vilifying of the Light they would come to witness a turning from the Darkness to the Light and continuing therein as that Holy Way in which the Ransomed of the Lord alwayes did do and shall walk through all Generations they would know the Injoyment of Eternal Peace Yea such is the Excellency of Christ the true Light that as He was First so shall He be the Last when all Outward Performances Writings Worships yea the whole World shall be at an End the Use and Excellency of the Light will remain forever as saith John the Divine And they shall see his Face and his Name shall be written in their Fore-Heads and there shall be no Night there and they need no Candle neither Light of the Sun for the LORD GOD GIVETH THEM LIGHT and they shall Reign forever and ever Amen CHAP. VIII An Objection against the Light 's Antecedent Being to Christ's Coming It is prov'd to have been known to be a Saving Light from Adam's day through the Holy Patriarchs and Prophets time down to Christ's from the Scriptures of Truth HAving then plainly prov'd from Scripture 1. That the Light is Saving since the time of Christ beginning with its first Appearance as Manifesting Sin 2. Condemning of It. 3. Redeeming from It as obeyed And that the same Principle which is called Light is the Seed Grace Truth Word Spirit Power Unction Water Way Life Flesh and Blood and therefore not a Distinct Being from that which T. Hicks himself if he will own plain Scripture must confess doth Save I call it the LIGHT OF SALVATION OR THAT LEADS TO SALVATION But there remain yet several Objections to be Answered which done we shall immediately proceed to give Judgment upon the Question Who or What this Light is with respect to all our Adversaries Cavils Obj. Though you have thus far evinc'd the Universality of a Saving Light from the Scriptures since Christ's Life Death Resurrection and Ascension yet that which is the Pinch of the Controversie will be this Where was this before Light Had any this Saving Light they had a Light before it came in that Eminent Manner above One Thousand Six Hundred Years since It is generally believ'd that Christ's then coming benefitted the World with it in case the World universally hath such a Saving Light To which I shall give my Answer both from Scripture History and Reason The first Scripture I shall quote is in the first of Genesis So God created
their Weakness that he might both keep them from gadding after the Pompous Invention and Idolatrous Worship of other Nations and point out unto them under their great Carnality that more Hidden Glory and Spiritual Dispensation which should-afterwards be revealed to wit The Compleat Redemption of the Soul and Raign of the Holy Seed from the Child born and the Son given to the Wonderful Counsellor the Mighty God the Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace of the Increase of whose Government there shall be no End So that then we ought and we do by absolute Force of Truth conclude 1. That the Seed which Seed is Christ was in all Ages with Abraham with the Israelites with the Prophets Therefore he was as well before he came in that prepared Body as then and since 2. Yet it is confest That He was not so clearly revealed perfectly brought forth and generally known before his so Coming as then and since but more darkly figured out by Types and Shaddowy Services which though they Cleans'd not Sav'd not Redeem'd not yet did show forth a more Hidden and Spiritual Substance that was able to Cleanse Save and Redeem and did all that received it and were truly subject to it 3. That it therefore is not at all Absurd that the more Excellent Manifestation of Truth should he Typified and Prophesied of under the Enjoyment of the Lesser since the Reason of the Thing and the Testimonies of the Scripture are so express for it which ends our Answer to this Particular CHAP. XX. The Fourth Part of the Objection stated and considered Christ's Death and Sufferings confessed to and respected they were beneficial The Light of Christ within is the Efficient Cause to Salvation HAving thus considered the Third Part of this great Objection I am now come to what chiefly stumbles People with respect to the Light within at least as I apprehend and that is this Fourth and Last Particular viz. But if the Light in every Man be Christ how doth it bear our Sins and are our Iniquities laid upon it and how can we be said to be Justified Redeemed or Saved by its Blood since all these things are spoken by the Holy Pen-men of the Man Christ or Jesus born at Nazareth Surely you wholy invalidate his Life Death Resurrection Ascension and Mediation by this Belief in the Light This I take to be the very Stress of the Matter collected out of the most Forceable Writings of our Adversaries To which I Answer and let him that reads understand It must be considered in this Last Part of the Objection how those Questions can be applicable to the Light and yet be reconciliable with those Scriptures that seem to attribute all to his Bodily Sufferings I hope to make appear that as we exalt the First so we dare not by any means to slight the Last The Light or rather He that is Light in Man for I have alwayes desired so to be understood Light being a Metaphor or word taken from the outward Day and chiefly so term'd because of Man's Darkness which is thereby discovered hath been as a Lamb slain since the Foundation of the World that is the World had not been long created before the good Order of it and every thing therein being envied by the Fallen Angels that Spirit of Iniquity betrayed Man of his Innocency and Sin by Disobedience prevailing the Light or Principle of Life under whose Holy Leadings Man was placed became Resisted Grieved and as it were Slain which word Slain is also Metaphorical that is to say the Innocent Pure Life was as Wounded unto Death through Man's Disobedience and Lamb-like Image in which Adam was created by him through Rebellion lost Thus that Holy Principle which God placed in the Heart of Adam in which was true Light Life and Power bore the Sin was prest under it as a Cart under Sheaves grieved exceedingly and as it were quencht with Iniquity This hath been the Condition of that Precious and Elect Seed Spirit Light Life Truth or whatever Name equivalent any may please to give it ever since that first Rebellion to this very Day And as in Wicked Men God's Holy Light and Spirit or that Principle which is so called hath been deeply Wounded yea as one Slain so in Good Men that have had a Sence of the World's Abomination hath it also born many Burdens and Weights for the Light and Life is One in All. And those who have been reformed by it and joyned to it have been as One Spirit and have not been without their Share of their Lord 's heavy Sufferings from the Ungodly World which was as well a filling up of Christ's Sufferings that were before his Outward Coming as what to this Generation are behind And as at any time Disobedient Men have harkened to the still Voice of the WORD that Messenger of God in their Hearts to be affected and convinced by it as it brings Reproof for Sin which is but a Fatherly Chastizement â—…o upon true Brokenness of Soul and Contrition of Spirit that very same Principle and Word of Life in Man has mediated and attoned and God has been propitious lifting up the Light of his Countenance and replenishing such humble 〈◊〉 with Divine Consolations So that still the same Christ Word-God who has enlightned all Men by Sin is grieved bearing the Iniquities of such as so sin and reject his Benefits but as any hear his Knocks and let him in he first Wounds and then Heals afterwards he attones mediates and re-instates in the holy Image Behold this is the State of Restitution And this in some Measure was witnessed by the Holy Patriarchs Prophets and Servants of God in old time to whom Christ was substantially the same Saviour and Seed bruising the Serpent's Head that he is now to us what Difference sâ—…ever there may be in Point oâ—… Manifestation But notwithstanding the same Light and Life with that which afterwards clothed it it self with that outward Body did in measure inwardly appear for the Salvation of the Souls of Men yet as have often said never did that Liâ—…â—…eminently put â—…orth it self for that End as in that 〈◊〉 and prepared Body so that what he then suffered and did in that transcendent Manisestation may by way of Eminency assume the whole Work unto it self that he ever did before or might do afterwards For doubtless that very Light Life and Power which dwelt in that Fleshâ—…y Tabernacle eminently was the Convincer Condemner Saviour and Redeemer yet not only as confined to that Body but as revealed in the Hearts of Men as he was in Paul who not consulting with Flesh and Blood against the Lord of Glory willingly receive him in to bind the strong Man spoil his Goods and cast him out that He might Reign And that the Divine Life Light Spirit Nature of Principle which resided in that Body was the efficient Cause of Salvation observe the Title that is given from the great Work he was to
the Light within unknown to the Cavilling Baptist. T. H. WHo or what is it that obeyeth this Light and in Obedience of it is saved Or if this Light be the Rule it doth suppose a subject capable of understanding it and of yielding Obedience to it p. 4. Answ. It s placed in the Heart and Conscience of man that he with his whole Soul Mind and Spirit may understand and obey it and come to Life and Salvation in Christ being guided by his Light in the Conscience T. H. What then is the Principle Either the Light must obey it self or Darkness must obey it Answ. Thy Darkness makes thee talk thus darkly and scribble thus nonsensically the Spirit of man is to obey every degree of this divine Light given of God that the whole man may be in Subjection for which End God hath given man a spiritual Capacity and Power to obey by the Vertue of Grace that the reasonable Soul in believeing in the Light and obeying it may find Relief and more Power from God comfortably to subsist in the Way of Life and Peace with him And though it be not a Scripture Phrase to tell of two such Lights in every man as thou mentions p. 14. Yet as the Light of the Body is the Eye which seeth the object of Light and there is a single Eye which causeth the whole Body to be full of Light So in man hath God placed the Eye of the Understanding and Mind and a Conscience in the reasonable Soul which is capable of receiving the divine Light as both the supream Rule and commanding Light and they that are translated out of Darkness into it are become Children of the Light And if thou wert come to this Estate thou needst not question who is the subject of Obedience to the Light whether the whole Person or only a part for the whole man ought to be the subject and where the Eye of the mind is single the whole Body is full of Light and no part dark But for the whole person to be subject to the Light is inconsistent with thine and thy Brethrens Doctrine for Sin and Imperfection during Life Why then dost thou now suppose the whole Person to be the Subject when thou art not real in what thou implyest of the whole Persons being obedient p. 15 16. And thou dost but play the Fool and Caveller whilst thou art drawing such a Conclusion upon us as that by our Principle the Light must obey it self and in so doing be saved this is only inferred from a Fiction of thy own Framing or a Quaker of thy own making to speak as thou pleasest for the Light is given for the Benefit of Mankind that they that truely follow it and throughly obey it with Subjection of both Soul Spirit and Body may know Salvation from Sin here and Wrath herâ—…after And so man in his spiritual being both in Soul and Body spiritual as changed or translated from a State of Mortality may forever enjoy a State of Immortality in Glory hereafter as they who are led by the Counsel of God shall afterwards be received into Glory for man as translated into that Celestial Spiritual State is most capable of the full Enjoyment of Glory with God hereafter Sect XI Concerning the Soul of man as under divers Considerations and States and G. Fox ' s VVords so considered with â—…ight Queries added COncerning the Soul of man thou vehemently accusest us with Fancies Conceits Absurdities Nonsence and Error p. 16. Thy Instance for this is viz. That G. F. mentions in his great Mystery c. p. 68. and 100. That the Soul is part of God and of his being and that it is without beginning p. 91. and also infinite p. 29. Whence thy Inference is viz. Which is as much as to say the Soul is God then God sets up a Light in himself which he himself is to obey and in so doing he shall be saved p. 16. Answ. We cannot expect any impartial or fair Dealing from thee while Prejudice and Envy do possess thee who hast both falsly and ignorantly represented G. F. and both curtayled and perverted his Words and the Sence of them And all these things mentioned by thee he does not speak of the Soul or Spirit of man as made or formed in him though composed of Spiritual Parts nor use these Expressions that the Soul or Spirit of the Creature Man is a part of God without beginning neither was the Phrase part of God originally G. F's but his Opposers only admitted of by him by Way of Question as plainly appears p. 100. with Relation to that which came out from God that immediate Spirit of Life which gives Being Life and Subsistance to the Soul and he doth distinguish between the Soul and Christ the Bishop of it between the Soul and the Saviour of it as plainly appears in many places of the said Book and the Soul could no otherwise be deemed infinite then as Man is said to be the Image and Glory of God namely by a Participation thereof so he speaks of the Soul in a two-fold Sense as First With reference to that which came out from God which is the Original Life or Soul of every Man's Soul Secondly With Respect to man as being made a living Soul by Vertue of the Spirit of Life proceeding from God And so with Relation to the first he questions Is not that of God which comes out from God Great Mystery p. 68. But with Relation to the latter viz. Man he speaks distinctly of the Soul as neither God nor Christ neither doth he confound the Being of man with the Infinite Being of his Creator as is implyed in our Opposers angry Charge for as every Spiritual Being or Existence is not divine so the Spirit or Spiritual Parts of Man are not God though a divine Light and Capacity is placed in them And G. F. doth not only speak of the Soul in a two-fold Sense viz. with Relation to its original Life and with Relation to man in his Spirituality but of the Soul of man as in several States as First Of the Souls being in Death in Transgression man's Spirit unsanctified the Soul being come into Death transgressing the Law c. Great Mystery p. 91. Therein he cannot intend the infinite Essence Being or Life of God or Christ which is immutable and unchangeably pure and holy though thereby the Soul is upheld in its Being and Immortality whether in Comfort or Misery Secondly Of the Soul and Spirit of Man as sanctified living to God in his Life through a diligent hearkening to the Counsel and Voice of God and feeling of his Hand which brings up out of Death and restores the Soul that it may live in Christ the Preserver and Overseer of it to praise God the Saviour being one Soul in that State as they that are joyned to the Lord are one Spirit As also G. F. adds viz. Every Man that cometh into the World having a
Light from Christ Jesus the Way out of the Fall the second Adam receiving the Light they receive Redemption and Sanctification whereby their Spirits Bodies and Souls are sanctified Great Mystery p. 91. Note here still that he plainly distinguisheth between the Soul and him that redeems and sanctifies it so that the Soul or Spirit of Man is neither God nor Christ but as much inferior in Subordination to God and Christ as the Creature Man is to the Creator or that which is saved and redeemed to him that saveth and redeemeth The sum of what 's said amounts to this candid Account about the Soul viz. That the Soul and Spirit of Man is not the very Being of God nor a part of God though the original Life of the Soul which came out from God is immutable and infinite there is a divine and infinite Life in the Soul of Man which we would have you be sensible of This is the Life of Lives the Soul of Souls the Being of Beings by which the Soul of man is made to subsist in its Being and Immortality whether in the Kingdom of Glory or Pit of Darkness although this original or divine Life in the Soul stands clear and free from both the Guilt Torment and Anguish that comes upon every Soul of Man that does Evil. Every Soul must appear before the Lord in its own proper Image and Nature which it hath born been under and received while in the Body having been subject either to the Spirit and Power of God or to the Spirit and Power of the wicked one wherein it s capable of either being a Vessel of Mercy and Love or a Vessel to hold Wrath and Anguish according to what it doth here love and effect and contract to it self whether Good or Evil. Therefore as it s commanded Take heed to thy self and keep thy Soul diligently c. love the Lord thy God with all thy Soul c. and then thou wilt know Christ to be the Salvation of it The Scripture speaks variously of the Soul and as in divers States and Conditions viz. 1. Of the Soul of God which is Immutable 2. Of the Soul of Man and that 1. Of the Righteous which really pertake of the divine Nature 2. Of the Wicked which pertake of the Nature of Enmity And these differ in their Affections the one being to Good and the other to Evil. Mention is made of the Soul as under the Power of Sin Death and the Grave by man's Disobedience and Fall and of the Soul as quickned raised up and delivered or saved by the Power of Christ the living ingrafted Word Sometimes the Soul is mentioned as including the whole man sometimes as distinguished from the Body sometimes it s esteemed as the Life and sometimes the Spirit or Breath of Life and an active Soul inspired and there is a State wherein the Word of the Lord is said to divide asunder betwixt the Soul and Spirit Now if you do not own a divine Seed or unchangeable Principle of Life in the Soul I query of you 1st Do you or did you ever know your own Souls 2ly What the Soul is in it self and distinct from the Body 3ly What and where is that to be known that is to change the Souls and so the whole man's Affections from Evil to Good while man remains in this Life 4ly Do you own the Souls Immortality that it doth not dye with the Body Do not some of you Baptists hold that the Soul dyeth with the Body and sleeps in the dust of the Earth untill both arise together 5ly Whether Man doth not subsist in his spiritual Being and Parts with a spiritual Capacity and spiritual Sences having a Sense of perpetual Gain or Loss when his Earthly Tabernacle is put off 6ly Whether the Spirit of Man doth not return unto God that gave it to receive its Judgment and Reward 7ly Whether Man must not be born again here of an Immortal and Incorruptible Seed in him if ever he enter into God's Kingdâ—…m or enjoy Glory hereafter 8thly Whether it be not more necessary for you to wait in humilily to know this immortal Seed in you and to be born thereof then to puzzle your Brains and to busie your Thoughts either about the Questâ—…on how and with what Body are the Dead raised Or how your Souls shall be invested hereafter If you remain here in the Enmity slighting and contemning the Light within or the immortal Principle or incorruptible Seed within as T. H. doth scoff and ridiculously droll at our Testimony for it you 'll be clothed with perpetual shame and Contempt hereafter God knows how to reserve the Unjust to the Judgement of his great Day to be punished as both Divels fallen Angels and wicked men are reserved You need not question in what Bodies or Vessels for that you shall be vessels fit to hold inevitable Wrath if here in time you repent not But if you repent and return to the Lord God and love and serve him with all your Souls it will be well with you hereafter God will provide well for you And the Glory wherewith his sanctified Ones shall be invested And of that House wherewith Righteous Souls shall be cloathed upon is beyond the reach of humane Capacities Thoughts or Imaginations of men And you who are contending and quarrelling about your carnal Bodies have not had so much as a Vision of the Glory of the Saints hereafter nor of the Gloriousness and Spirituality of their Body who are as the Angels of God in Heaven Sect. XII The Neck of the Baptist's Cause broken by his own Concession to the Light within in which Christ and his Testimonies are effectually received T. H. HOw could you call the Light within Christ if some Scriptures had not mentioned Christ in you that he is the Life and Light of Men Give me an Instance of any Person in the World that never had Acquaintance of the Scriptures that ever called the Light in every Man by this Name If none can be produced then the Scriptures must be your Rule for this p. 22. Answ. Thou hast said enough in not only granting the Light within to be Christ but also in confessing that he is the Life and Light of men which while he is really so to men this is sufficient for them to call him as he is and appears to them Is it not therefore great Ignorance to imply him an insufficient Rule for men to give Testimony of him while he is a sufficient Rule and Light to them for their Supply and Life in him And what if they cannot call him by all those Names by which he is called in Scripture while they feel him in Vertue and Power to be really what he is called according to their Enjoyment of him It s true we having the Knowledge of him as our Life and Light we must needs reverently own and make use of those Testimonies in Scripture which concur with our Knowledge of him
Life and Dominion are spiritual known in the true Believer who is of that Seed which Christ took upon him yea his spiritual begetting spiritual forming in man and spiritual birth is known within and all for the Redemption and Salvation of man to God or else he falls short oâ—… Lâ—…e and Glory and he that brings up the Soul out of the horrible Pit first descends thither And though it s not true to say he only comes to redeem raise up or save himself yet it may be truely said he doth arise to scatter his Enemies and to bring man out of the Pit and in conquering his Enemies his own 〈◊〉 brings Salvation to him Isa. 63. 5 9. And thus saith the Lord in an acceptable time have I heard thee and in a day of Salvation have I helped thee and I will preserve thee and give thee for a Covenant of the People to establish the Earth that thou mayst say to the Prisoners go forth and to them that sit in Darkness shew your selves Isa. 49. 8 9. which Promise is of a general Extent So mark here He that redeemeth the Prisoner and calleth forth them that are in Darkness he hath his help of God that sent him we are not to conclude that he helps not others because he is helped himself And Christ's Sufferings both inward and outward for they were two-sold were for man's Benefit as is testified in the said Book Love to the Lost accused by thee The Creature is blessed of God for the Seeds Sake and Redemption from the vain Conversation as Christ gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all Iniquity c. So if thou wert thus redeemed thou needst not enquire for the Subject of Redemption nor accuse others for owning the Seed of God both in an oppressed State and as raised up by the Eternal Power and Glory of the Father for wor thy is the Lamb that was slain from the Foundation of the World to receive Power and Wisdom and Glory and Might c. However T. H. slites our Testimony of the Seed of God within as in several States and so the spiritual Resurrection of Christ in man his Brother H. G. confesseth thereto in his Book p. 54. where he saith Praises and Halelujahs to God for ever who hath given us that Witness in our selves of which thou speakest that we can experience the Power of Christ's Spiit risen in us for our Sanctification and Renovation as well as Christ was raised from the Dead c. Thus far H. G. Is it not here evident that he hath confest to Christ's arising in man for man's Restoration What thinkst T. H. of this Is this Canting or Gibberish as his Words are against us p. 47. Moreover as the elect Seed is spoken of in the Scripture both with respect to Christ the Anointed and with respect to his Seed and Heritage so also the Seed is Christ not only as in himself aâ—…ointed with the Oyle of Gladness above his Fellows but also as in Union and Conjunction with his Church or Members As the Body is one and hath many Members so also is Christ and so Christ and the Body comprehensively is one he is the Anointed and we are anointed in him and he that hath anointed us is God By all which it is understood that we are Partakers of the Life Redemption and Priviledge that is in Christ as we are in him and grow up in him so that all our Opposers Cavils which render our Principle as only including Christ and God in the Redemption and not man do fall to the Ground as Groundless and Frivilous As for his groundless Cavills in his p. 48. The little Understanding he hath either of the Measure of God's Gift his Seed within or of Redemption by Christ the Elect Seed is very intelligible from the Tenour of his impertinent and contradictory Discourse throughout his Pamphlet By all which we see the Nature of his pretended Christianity and how Un-christian he is in his apparâ—…nt Oppositions against the divine Light and Seed within Sect. XXI The Baptist's Imperfect Work against Perfection COncerning Persection which we say is attainable in this Life he attempteth to confute us though very feebly here as will appear T. H. I perceive you are forced as much as any others to borrow from the Scriptures without which you can no more prove any thing either concerning Christ or Perfection then a meer Indian p. 49. Answ. Touching which it appears while thou grantst something for Perfection we proved from Scriptures how consistent with this thy after Work is against Perfection will â—…rther be manifest But while thou concludes that we can prove no more of Perfection then a meer Indian without the Scriptures How agrees this with thy former confessing that Man was alwayes under an Obligation that God's Soveraignity over him and his Inferiority unto God might be acknowledged Now if this be truely to be acknowledged by Man or Mankind in general why are Indians excluded And if God's Soveraignity over man and man's Subjection thereto be known doth not this extend to Perfection If either the Rule be perfect that thus obligeth man or if in God's Rule Power or Soveraignity as over man be Perfection which we affirm is able to evince it self where true Fear and Subjection to God is lived in or Sincerity and Uprightness towards him retained Though to such as thou art who opposes Sin-less Perfection as attainable in this Life there is a need especially of producing Scriptures to prove it while you pretend a Belief of them for the perfect Light or Gift of God within you do not believe in Yet thou hast granted to Perfection as sincere and upright p. 50. and is not this Perfection of Sincerity and Uprightness without Sin Were it good Doctrine to say that Persection as it respects the Sincerity and Uprightness of Saints is sinful But that a perfect Freedom from all Sin in this Life is attainable we intend is by the all-sufficient Power of Christ and no true Christian doth dissent from us herein Nor doth this cause either Pride or Presumption as thou falsly insinuates but the contrary Sin-pleasing Doctrine that 's for Imperfection and Sin while in this Life And while thou confessest a holy Fear Humility Watchfulness and Industrious Endeavours to persevere in a Holy Course to the End p. 50. Either thou dost hereby grant Perfection or a perfect Freedom from all Sin attainable in this Life or else thou excitest People to be industrious and endeavour for that which thou believest is not attainable which is as much faithless Inconsistency as to say use your industrious Endeavours to persevere in a holy Course that is sinless to the End but it is not attainable Were not this a sad and Heartless Way of Preaching to put People upon Impossibilities Again upon Phil. 3. 15. as many as are perfect be thus minded Thou sayst By Perfection no more can be understood in this Text then
those few mentioned namely for Christ saith he sent me not to baptize but to preach the Gospel So he did not thank God for neglecting part of his Commission in baptizing so few but partly to prevent their wrong Use thereof and chiefly because his Commission did not extend to Water-Baptism And as to his Allegation to prove that the Word not is not alwayes used as an absolute Negative p. 27. he cites Joh. 6. 27. Labour not for the Meat that perisheth but for the Meat which endureth c. If the Occasion of these Words be minded not will prove an absolute Negative in this Place Jesus speaking to them that sought after him because they did eat of the Loaves ver 20. and were filled for which end they ought not to have sought after him And admitting his Instance in Adam that he was not deceived namely that he was not first deceived taking in the Word first from the Verse before this is altogether impertinent unto his Purpose about Paul's not being sent to baptize there being no such Discovery that Paul was sent at all to baptize as there was of Adam's Transgression but the contrary in that Paul expresly said Christ fent me not to baptize but to preach the Gospel V. Of the Anionted TO his saying the Word Christ signifies one Anointed accounting it absurd to say the Spirit or Anointing is Christ p. 37. I answer are not the Father the Spirit and the Word one Christ as the Son of God is God's anointed And is it not granted that he was the Son of God by eternal Generation And fo was before he took upon him that Body prepared for him called the Lord 's anointed Psal. 2. 2. which Word Anointed sometimes relates to his being set up or exalted as King yet have I set or anointed Hebr. my King upon Sion the Hill of my Holiness ver 6. As also to his being endued or anointed with Power from on high which Power is that divine Unction and in that Christ is called the Power of God and the Wisdom of God 1 Cor. 1. 24 He may as properly be called the Anointing as where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty now the Lord is that Spirit this Anointing is not an outward Unction nor outwardly received upon the Flesh or Body but being a divine Unction of Glory and Power from above it s inwardly and spiritually received by an immortal Seed and Birth born from above as that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit As for his Term Humane Nature and Glorious Unity between the divine and human Nature p. 36. he talks he knows not what besides Scripture-Language the Word human is not applicable to Christ in Glory by the Scriptures but originally relates to the Earth and so to the Body of man as coming thence But Jesus Christ was the Anointed as he was the Son from the Father's Substance which he was before he came in the Flesh or took upon him that Body that was prepared for him and the Anointed and Saviour by the divine Power given him when in that Body upon Earth though more highly exalted or anointed as ascended far above all Heavens and exalted in the Father's Glory the Anointed and Saviour also as revealed and formed in the Saints Gal. 4. 19. the Anointed as set up from Everlasting the Anointed both in Sufferings and in Glory the Anointed both as he came in Flesh and as coming and revealed in the Spirit in his People and his Name by which Life and Salvation comes and is given is his divine Nature and Power to which his Name relates that is above every other Name One thing this man H. G. and his Brethren stumble at and at which his Soul is wounded as he saith p. 30. is that Christ was never seen with an outward or rather carnal Eye which H. W. is accused of sor saying The Eternal Son of God was never seen with any Carnal Eye to which I say they should have been so ingenuous as to have considered the Intent of these Words and more candidly to have construed them thus Christ as the eternal Word the Lord from Heaven the only begotten of the Father in his spiritual Discovery as the Image of the invisible God and Brightness of his Glory cannot be seen with a carnal Eye Flesh and Blood hath not so revealed him the saving Light of Christ never was nor can be reached with the carnal Eye he that seeth the Son and believeth on him hath everlasting Life Joh. 6. 40. and as saith the Son of God he that seeth me seeth my Father also Joh. 12. 45. and 14. 9. but none can see the Father with a carnal Eye therefore none could ever see the eternal Son with their carnal Eyes in this Sence of seeing which extends to true Knowing Joh. 8. 19. and 14. 7. though many did see the Body or Person of Christ in the Dayes of his Flesh wherein he was crucified and put to Death the Jews â—…nd Persecutors saw him in that Sence with their outward Eyes when they did neither truely see nor know him to their Salvation it being the Spirit that quickneth and such a Sight of Christ as that of his Body or outward man no reasonable man can be so absurd as to say it was not obvious to the Bodily Eyes and as absurd for any to imagine that any of us should intend otherwise Now these Baptists Faith concerning the Son of God according to their carnal Discourse of him may be modelized into this or the like Argument viz. If Jesus Christ the Son of God be also the Son of man glorified on the right Hand of God in Heaven then he consists of human Body of Flesh and Bones as some say or of a body of Flesh Blood and Bones as others say But he is the Son of man glorified c. Ergo he consists of a human Body either of Flesh and Bone or of Flesh Blood and Bones in Heaven Ans. I deny their varied Consequence as inconsequent for Christ was called the Son of man in a higher Sence then this human earthly or carnal Sence which they represent him in in that he himself said no man hath ascended up to Heaven but he that came down from Heaven even the Son of man which is in Heaven Joh. 3. 13. and what if you shall see the Son of Man ascend up where he was before it is the Spirit that quickneth the Flesh perfitteth nothing Joh. 6. 62 63. who will affim that as he came down from Heaven or as he was before in Heaven he so consisted of a carnal human Body either made up of Flesh and Bone or of Flesh Blood and Bone in their gross and carnal Sence John the Baptist had not such mean Thoughts of Christ as these carnal Baptists have for John said he that cometh from above is above all he that is of the Earth is earthly and speaketh of the Earth he that cometh from Heaven is above
that Baptism or plunging Men and Women is Gospel Have I said it is of Necessity to Salvation p. 13. Answ. 'T is both dishonest and false in thee to accuse me of an Anti-christian Spirit and belying the Innocent for stating thy own Words and the Consequence thereof from the very Tenour of thy Discourse hast thou not accounted your Water-Baptism or dipping Gospel or at least part of Christ's last Will and Testament and them accursed that bring any other Gospel See thy other Book pages 24 25 26. and have not thy Brethren declared it for the Remission of Sins and the only Way of gathering Churches 1. To teach and then to baptize or dip them See their Confession of Faith Article 11. presented to the King and subscribed by above 40. of them And have not some of thy Brethren affrighted many simple People into Water to be dipt formerly by such Language as dip or damn and what hast thou said less if they be accurst that own it not Some of thy Brethren have positively affimed it necessary to Salvation on that Scripture Except a Man be born again of Water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God falsly deeming that outward Water there spoken of H. G. All that are accursed are only those who bring another Gospel besides that which was given sorth by Christ as he is King and Mediator of the new Covenant p. 14. Answ. And your dipping thou reckons to be given forth by Christ thy pretended Proof being Mat. 28. 20. as before mentioned wherefore thy case is against all that own 〈◊〉 or deny to be dipt for our parts we will not be dipt by you H. G. I doubt not but all sincere-minded Protestants are of my Perswasion touching this matter though we may differ about the Form and Subjects of Water-Baptism p. 14. Answ. Here thou insinuatest and flatters the Protestants like a temporizer and decliner of your former Testimony and contrary to thy Brethrens said Confession of Faith which is wholy against that scriptureless thing of sprinkling Infants Article 11. as their Phrase is and have not divers of thy Brethren deem'd it Anti-christian H. G. False it is and a Slander to say that we make it essential and of absolute Necessity to Salvation though we believe it essential to Church Communion p. 14 15. Answ. Is it not essential and of Necessity to Salvation if part of Christ's last Will and Testament as before thou sayst And such to be accurst that oppose it or if the same Baptism of Christ mentioned Mat. 28. and Mark 16. which is annexed to believing in order to Salvation But if not of Necessity to Salvation then not the Baptism into the one Body or Church-Communion and then it s not that one Baptism or Anti-Type which doth save viz. The Baptism into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit for without that Name or Power Men cannot be saved VIII Their Definition of the true Saviour and his Being HEnry Grigg denyes the true Saviour to be the Light and Power I afsirm saith he that Jesus Christ is a Man consisting of Flesh and Bones p. 30 31. human finite weak subject to Passion as we are 94. p. 33. the true Christ consisting of a Body of Flesh and Bone p. 31. 34. H. G. Contrad John declared plainly that Christ was before him being from everlasting before Abraham the Son of God by Eternal Generation truly God David's Lord p. 35. The Lord Jesus the Eternal Word p. 8. The Emanuel p. 32. Christ the Son of the living God p. 33. G.W. Animed Therefore it s both unscriptural and absurd to assert that Jesus Christ consisteth of a human Body of Flesh and Bone or is finite seeing he was before all things and by him all things consist Col. 1. 17. and inconsistant both with the Eternal Glory of the Son of God which he had with the Father before the World began wherein he is glorified and his Body Glorious and Spiritual They should have said that he took upon him that Body prepared for him and not that he Jesus Christ consisteth or is made up of Flesh and Bones but at length they are made to grant to the Deity of Christ more than formerly though to their own Confutation as before And I further add Is there not a plain Contradiction between Jesus Christ consisting of Flesh and Bone human Nature and that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Eternal Word from Everlasting c. Besides after his Resurrection he said a Spirit hath not Flesh as ye see me have Luke 24. 39. now for Jesus Christ to have Flesh and Bone and for him to consist of Flesh and Bone in his Sence are two differing things for to have Flesh and Bones implies a Distinction between him the Son of God as to his Being and the Flesh and Bones which he had but to consist of Flesh and Bones implies he could not have a Being without them but that he is made up meerly of human Flesh and Bones H. G. Doth he not evidently declare to the World that it is a Contradiction and absurd to assert that Jesus Christ is God and Man subsisting in too real distinct Natures because I said he is Man and that the Divinity distinct and apart from the Humanity is not the Christ and yet also said he is God everlasting and the Son of God by Eternal Generation p. 16. Rep. 1. It is remarkable how the Man shuffles evades and useth a Subterfuge besides my Objection which was not at all against Jesus Christ being God and Man take Man as Christ is the heavenly spiritual and glorified Man being ascended up where he was before but it was against his affirming that Jesus Christ consisteth of human Flesh and Bone I distinguishing between consisting and having seeing Christ was srom Everlasting 2. And now also to say he subsists in two Natures divine and human contradicts his saying he consists of Flesh and Bones human Nature for these do not consist of two Natures the human Nature is not two Natures both human and divine as human or earthly Nature cannot be the heavenly also 3. If Christ consisteth or is made up of human Flesh and Bones and be the Christ only as so considered then how is he the Son of God by Eternal Generation even before as well as since he took upon him that Body which was prepared for him or pertook of that which the Children had to wit Flesh and Blood If the Son of God before was he not then Christ before Or was he the Son of God when he was not Christ IX The Hypostatical Union BUt H. G. instead of clearing himself in this matter he sillily yet perversly begs the Question thus Doth he not deny his human Nature and glorious hypostatical Union p. 21. This being consider'd together with his severe Conclusion against us of horrible Heresies Delusions and vile Impostures as in p. 17. shews that he has a design to render
true Union with him and Knowledge of him to experience his Indwelling as he dwelleth in us and we in him if we keep his Commandments and thus the true Believer hath the Witness in himself which that thou mightst experience was thy Sister 's wholsom Advice to thee to believe in the Light that reproves for Sin which enlightens every one that cometh into the World and so thou mightst in Love and Humility have received the Witness in thy self which if thou hadst obeyed thou durst never have prayed so wickedly as God forbid that ever I should own their Principle of the Light in all contrary to thy pretended Praises and Hallelujah to God for the Witness within neither coâ—…ldst thou have opposed the Witness in the Believer to the Light which reproves for sin which enlighteth every man as thou hast done H. G. This Witness through Grace I in measure do Experience not that I believe in that Light which every man that cometh into the World is inlightened with for Life and Salvation that is insufficient c. pag. 19. Answ. If thou rejectest the Gift or Measure of the Light or Life of Christ within thou rejectest the saithfull Witness Christ the Giver and canst not know him to be thy Saviour while thou art disobedient to his Light within and Christ and his Light in man are so inseperable that he who obeys and believes in his Light within he and his Faith must needs have a dependance upon Christ the Enlightner who is the Object Author and Finisher of Faith and so upon God who is the Fountain of Light who shineth in man's heart to give the knowledge of his Glory in the Face of his Son and hereby is the benefit of him as the one Offering and the vertue of his Blood known that both Sanctifies and makes Perfect XII His Groundless Comparison and Distinction between the Light of God in Man and the Light of Christ or Gospel further Refuted ANd whereas in thy other Book from Rom. 1. 19. and Chap. 2. 14 15. thou callest the Law or Light of God in men The Law or Light of the Moon to Guide their Paths by which they are taught their duty to God in morrals but understand nothing of the glorious Mystery of the Gospel pag. 6â—… To this I Answer 1. Those Gentiles mentioned in Rom. 1. had a Sight and Knowledge of the Invisible things of God even his Eternal Power and God-head ver 19 20. was this but the Light of the Moon and was there nothing of the Gospel or Mystery of it in this whereas the very reason of their becoming foolish vain in their Imaginations darkned and reprobated in their minds was that because that when they knew God they glorified him not as God ver 21. they did not like to retain God in their knowledge ver 28. Therefore if they had continued in the Light given them glorified him as God and retained him in their knowledge they had been preserved unto Salvation out of that dark reprobate state and out of those gross evils which they fell into 2. Those Gentiles mentioned Rom. 2. 15. were accused or excused according to that Light or Law of God in their hearts and the secrets of them and all men to be Judged by Jesus Christ according to the Gospel but could this be or were it Just if there were no Law nor Light of Jesus Christ and Gospel given men are they and their secrets to be judged by a Law or Light which they never had in secret for my Part I know none so gross and partial as to affirm it on any serious Thoughts or Consideration 3. If the Light of God and his Knowledge be but the Light of the Moon and the Light of Christ the Light of the Sun how doth he demonstrate this difference between God and Christ and the Light of each and wherein the Glory of the one so far exceedeth the other or can any suppose there is a Light proceeding from Christ as man that so far excels the Light flowing from him as he is God or the Eternal Word as the Light of the Sun doth the Light of the Moon what Scripture hath H. G. for this distinction are not God and Christ and holy Spirit One and one Eternal Light and Fulness in their own Being and so the Light immediately shining or flowing thence unto man's Heart and Conscience one Divine Light though manifest by degrees and in several measures being still one in kind in man And this which H. G. calleth the Law or Light of the Moon is granted to be 1st The Light of Jesus Christ as the Eternal Word 2dly That which may be known of God manifest in men 3dly That Light which gives the Light and Knowledge of God and his Eternal Power 4dly The Law written in the Gentiles hearts who were a Law to themselves to which I add If men truely believe in and obey the Light of the Eternal Word in them and retain the sence and Knowledge of God as therein they receive it they will find Preservation and Acceptance with God for is the Improvement of any more then what 's given required XIII His belying us with denying the Man Christ Jesus to cloak his own Absurdity and Ignorance of Christ and his Being AGain H. G. To prove thy slanders 1. That we deny the man Christ Jesus 2. That we are found daily in the Sight of all Persons denying that man to be Christ who was born of the Virgin c. pag. 20 21. Thou judgest us insolent for saying we are falsly accused and guilty of this If it be absurd as we judge it is to say Christ doth Consist of a human Body of Flesh and Bone pag. 21. which is thy own absurdity To these I say Though we never deny'd the man Christ Jesus nor him to be Christ that was born of the Virgin according to the Flesh yet I must still count it absurd to say That Christ doth Consist or is made up of a human Body of Flesh and Bone for that 1. because Christ the Son of God was and had a Being before he took upon him that Flesh or Body in the Virgin 2. Because that when he took upon him that Body and even in the dayes of the Flesh he was spirit as well as had Flesh. 3. In that he is ascended up where he was before and far above all Heavens and is glorified with the same Glory that he had with the Father before the World began 4. He was before all things and by him all things consist this is truely our Christ and Saviour But If your Christ doth consist of a human or earthly Body of Flesh and Bone our Christ who consisteth of quickning spirit and heavenly Body of divine Life and Light a spiritual and glorious body is above you and yours so we must leave you Anabaptists with your earthly Christ consisting of a human Body of Flesh and Bone together with your empty and lifeless Shadows
5. as Chap. 8. 21. and relates to Man as in the unrerenerate State estranged from God and not to him as walking with God I must needs conclude this Man a Pleader for Sin with many others of his Brethren A Pleader for Sin whilst he thus confounds States and Attainments and his Doctrine to be Antichristian and Impious while he accounts it God's good Pleasure that the Being of Sin and Corruptions in part must remain in the Saints to keep them humble and that Job abhorreth to entertain such a Thought as that of Perfection and that to be wholy Free and purged from Evil Principles is not attainable in this Life let the impartial Reader judge whether there be not in these Doctrines a Pleading for Sin And while he and his Brethren contend against the Quakers for Evil Principles they contend to no purpose while they râ—…ckon that neither themselves nor any else can be purged from Evil Principles in this 〈◊〉 but they should not thus dispute and contend for Sin and Imperfection for term of Liâ—…e â—…eeing they say It is the Duty of all to be Perfect and to press after it to watch against all even the least Sins pag. 70. and tell men It is needful to forsake Lying Injustice Uâ—…cleaness c. which the Light calls them off from pag. 69. I say their pleading for Sin Term of Life is inconsistent with this and God will require it at their Hands for their strengthning the Hands of Evil Doers that they may not forsake their Sins by these Sin-pleasing Doctrines They cannot be altogether ignorant how apt Transgressors are to lay hold on every Doctrine that is of such a Tendence as suites their Evil Minds as much of Stephen Scandret his Work doth Therefore as it is high time for the Wicked to repent of their Wickedness so it is time for you pretended Ministers who are contending for Sin and Imperfection to repent thereof and of your Sinful Doctrines for the Being of Sin and Imperfection Term of Life whereby you have strengthned many Thousands in Iniquity made their Bands more strong and exposed them to Ruin and Destruction THE ANSWER TO Tho. Hicks AND HIS BRETHREN About the RESURRECTION HIS Absurdity Confusion and Carnal Conceits about it Discovered The Resurrection Owned by us and Scripturally Asserted with the Future and Distinct Existences of Men and Angels And the Eternal Advantage of the Righteous after Dissolution Joh. 11. 25. Jesus said I am the Resurrection and the Life c. 1 Cor. 15. 38. God giveth a Body at his Pleasure Ver. 44. There is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body 2 Tim. 2. 23. But put away Foolish and Unlearned Questions Serious Reader OUr Opposer appearing altogether utterly void of any spiritual Sence or divine Underâ—…tanding in this great and sublime Mystery of the Resurrection his Work is the less to be regarded and we having very little of so much as seeming Argumentâ—…tion from him I need say the less to his Work only take notice of a few of his Absurdâ—…ties and Abuses What further as is opened in the Discourse following is chiefly for the sake of others more honest and free from Prejudice and in order to incline them from gross Conceptions into a spiritual Apprehension of this Mystery and thâ—…t they may be mindful of their present Concernment of Acceptance with God in his own Life and Righteousness and not be diverâ—…ed from obtaining the End and future Felicity of the Righteous by Uncertain Vain and Gross Thoughts and Notions of carnal Minds which are but depending upon their own Imaginations of a future State and not upon a divine Principle or spiritual Understanding thereof God is my Record that it is a spâ—…ritual Eye and divine Uâ—…nderstanding that I desire may be opened in these weighty Matters treated on for which End in the Sâ—…ght oâ—… God I am open and free in my Spirit in what I write on this Occasion which I desire to iâ—…prove only for the Glory of God and Good of Souls THE ANSWER To Tho. Hicks about the RESURRECTION c. First T. H. accuses us from what one Tarner should say but answers not what he said or his Argument 2dly He accuseth us in general words with manifest Denial of the Resurrection of the Body For which his Instance is our saying That Flesh and Blood shall not inherit the Kingdom of God Observe hence That 't is no marvel that he reviles and slanders us and thinks we have some reserved Meaning like the Jesuitical Equivocation p. 56. when he hath accused us for making use of the Apostles plain words which he hath not answered Would it be well taken if he should positively say That the Apostle denyed the Resurrection when he saith Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God 1 Cor. 15. 50. It s one thing to deny Men's carnal gross Thoughts about the Seed Resurrection and Body And it is another thing wholely to deny the Resurrection of the Body in those general Expressions 3dly He pretends to desire Information what the Body is we believe shall arise again when before he hath positively accused us with manifest Denyal of the Resurrection of the Body that is of any Body if he meant as his words import And here again he is obtruding upon us that Fool 's Question which the Apostle reproved when in answer thereto he said Thou Fool that which thou sowest is not quickened except it dye And thou sowest not that Body which shall be but God gives it a Body as it pleaseth him 1 Cor. 15. 35 36 37 38. For which again he queries Whether we do not tacitely deny the Resurrection of the Body For all this man's Pretence of Scripture being his Rule he is not content with the Scripture-Language nor yet willing to resign up himself to the Pleasure of God in giving to every Seed it s own Body as it pleaseth him But such busie Intruders will be inquisitive concerning the manner of God's executing his Pleasure in this thing Whereas men's present Concern should be rather to wait to know and submit to the good Pleasure of God in this Life and to find a part in Christ Jesus who is the Resurrection and the Life that they might be assured of the good Effect and Fruits of God's good Pleasure hereafter For it is a Design of Satan to busie and puzzle men's Thoughts about their Existences in Heaven while he keeps them in Sin and Darkness in the Way to Hell Whereas if they would faithfully serve God in the Way of his Grace here on Earth they would freely trust him with the Manner how he will Glorifie them hereafter And my saying We ought not to be Curious in these Matters to inquire into God's secret Pleasure in things beyond our Capacity neither do I desire to make my self wiser then I am nor to appear wise above or besides what is written viz. in this Case Doth this argue that the Divine Light
as it pleaseth God or that shall inherit God's Kingdom Howbeit As to be Quickened implieth a Death first and Resurrection a Fall before and to be Changed that there was either a vile corruptible Suffering or low Estate before So all that come to know Christ in them and the Body dead because of Sin know the Spirit to be Life because of Righteousness And if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the Dead dwell in you he that raised up Jesus from the Dead shall also quicken your mortal Bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you Rom. 8. 10 11 12 13. And this plainly is a quickening unto Righteousness by the Spirit dwelling within which is far from being a Proof of T. H's Opinion though cited by him And as in the first Adam is both the Fall and Death come over all men so in the second Adam who is the Resurrection and the Life all are made alive and that unto Righteousness who first come to see the Body dead because of Sin and the Deeds of the Body mortified Rom. 8. 13. or who come to know Christ and the Power of his Resurrection and the Fellowship of his Sufferings being made conformable unto his Death these attain unto the Resurrection of the Dead Phil. 3. 10 11. Such do not strive for a Notion thereof but to attain to it As to the manner of Existences or Beings of all men in the World to come there is no Necessity for any to be taking thought or busying their Minds about them it being in the Pleasure and Wisdom of God to reserve all to their due and deserved Ends in an immortal Capacity Our present Concernment is so to know and esteem of Christ as that we may be found in him not only mortified to the Corruptions of this World through the Fellowship of his Suffering and Conformity unto his Death But also interessed in that blessed Resurrection which is only attained to in Christ who is the Resurrection and the Life that he may be magnified in our Body whether by Life or Death To what he saith in his 59. pag. about the Bâ—…dy that was dead about that It which is raised about the Soâ—…l and the Seed of God the Matter is answered else where yet First All that know the Body dead because of Sin having mortified the Deeds of the Flesh and being conformable to the Death of Christ as dead with him shall alfo be quickned and raised up by his Spirit that dwells in them which is Life because of Righteousness and such only can speak experimentally of the Seed of God and the Soul 2dly That there is a Seed of God and a Seed of the Serpent in Mankind according to G. F. Junior's relation he further tells you that they that discern the Body of each Seed are not the Fools which are questioning how the dead should be raised and with what Body for they know that all Mankind will be found in one of these two Seeds By which it is plain he doth not exclude men from a future Being or Immortality nor confound them with the very Being of God though it is by his invisible Power that all are upheld in their respective Existences in Immortality whether they be found in the Nature and Image of the good Seed or of the evil T. H. And since he calls them Fools that is the Apostles and all true Christians that say This Body of Flesh and Bones shall arise pag. 59. Rep. He should have produced his plain Scripture for the Apostles so saying where are these Words to be found in all the Scriptures of the new Testament that this Body of Flesh and Bones shall arise again Doth not the Apostle say the contrary Thou sowest not that Body that shall be And Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God But must we then suppose as some Professors do That these Bodies of Flesh and Bones shall inherit the Kingdom of God without any Blood in them Or that after they are returned to Dust they shall arise again the self same as they are without any new Creation I confess this is such kind of new Philosophy as I have not read of before The man has run himself into such strange Confusion and wholy misses the Sense of the Resurrection and the Life and over looks the true Seed and Root of the Matter while in his vain mind he is imagining muddling and Devil-like disputing about the Body which in Comparison of the immortal Existence and being of Man is but an outside Case earthly Shell or Husk that disolveth Again he saith If this Seed of the Serpent be only Sin and the Seed of Christ only Grace it is only Sin and Grace which shall arise again p. 60. Oh the gross Darkness and Ignorance of this Man He knows not the Seed of the Serpent from whence Sin springs nor the Seed of God from whence Grace and Life flows But falsly supposes that our Principle extinguishes the future distinct beings of Men though it hath been plainly told him that all Mankind will be found in one of these two Seeds As also we testifie from that Sence of Life and Immortality that is brought to Light in us through the Gospel That the Soul whole spiritual Man and spiritual Body shall exist in Immortality yea though our outward Man perish yet the inward Man is renewed day by day and in order to possess an eternal Weight of Glory 2 Cor. 4. This inward Man is neither extinguish'd by the perishing of the outward Man nor thereby deprived of that Advantage which is an eternal Weight of Glory And that God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him and to every Seed his own Body or his proper Body The Man would know what this It is shewing his Dubiousness of his own Assertion before viz. That it is a mortal Body of Flesh and Bones whether it shall be raised and go to Heaven with any Blood in it he tells us not and that the Body given it is the same for Substance that is as good Sense as to say the Body of Flesh and Bones shall when it is raised have the same Body of Flesh and Bones given to it whereas it is to every Seed his proper Body which is comprehensive both of the Seed of the Righteous and the Seed of the Wicked of the Seed of God and the Seed of the Serpent and so comprehends and takes in the whole Body of Mankind under those two Relations and Natures not to dissolve or extinguish their Rational Intelligible Beings with the perishing and dissolvable Earthly Outside or Case but that all shall be reserved for their due and proper Ends according to the Seed Nature and Image which their Soul carries with it when it parts with the Earthly Cloathing And whereas it is said that It is sown a Natural Body it is raised a Spiritual Body the great Stress is laid on the particle IT which may as well be applyed to Wheat or
Seed in any or Christ's Arising who doth appear reveal himself and arise in the Souls that believe in him to raise them also up with him yea and that which the Father hath given him he will loose nothing oâ—… it but raise it up at the last Day And if you do not come to know a Righteous Seed raised up in you and Truth to spring up out of the Earth and to witness Christ to be your Resurrection and Life you remain dead in your Sins and short of the Glory of this Resurrection But in witnessing Christ to be the Resurrection and the Life unto us we do not assert that it is only the Seed or Christ in us that doth arise as is vainly imagined but we are revived and do arise in and with him as those that have believed in his Name as he said I am the Resurrection and the Life he that believeth in me though he were dead yet shall he live and he that liveth and believeth in me shall never dye wherein he doth not take notice of the putting off of the earthly Body or Cloathing as his dying or Death And as in Adam all dye even so in Christ shall all be made alive but every man in his own order Christ the first Fruits afterward they that are Christ's at his Coming and this is not to exempt Man from the Benefit of the Resurrection nor to say That Christ and the Light within is sown Natural Mortal and Corruptible as T. H. most malitiously and falsly accuseth us by way of Question as asserting Blasphemy To which he farther adds that we intend the Resurrection of something past and witness in our selves What is Falsehood and Deceipt if this be not p. 61. And further saith Thus do you undermine the very Foundation of Faith Hope and Holiness of Life like Hymneas and Philotus 2 Tim. 2. 17. who said the Resurrection is past already To which I answer first What we witness in ourselves of the Resurrection it is this Man 's horrible Blasphemy to call it Falsehood and Deceipt for that we do witness to Christ as being the Resurrection and the Life revealed in us so far as we have a living Knowledge of him and Experience of being by him raised up from Sin and Death that came by it in order to attain to a future Glory 2dly 'T is a Gross Slander that we either intend or say like Hymneas and Philotus that the Resurrection is past already for that it is not yet as to Man compleatly we are not yet raised to what we shall be as namely to that Fulness of Glory and absolute Joy and Tryumph which shall be incessantly possest after our Labours and Sufferings are ended and our Earthly House dissolved for the more we are drawn up into absolute Spirituality the more capable we are of that full Fruition of an eternal Weight of Glory in the Heavens in order to which let us be Spiritually minded and walk in Holiness of Life while here in our earthly House As also we cannot hold that the Resurrection is past already while we or any of us are suffering with Christ and travailing in order to attain unto the Resurrection of the Dead that is perfectly to be raised up with Christ who is the Resurrection and Life in some Degree at least of all that truly believe in his Name and Power Neither is this to undermine the Foundation of true Faith Hope or Holiness of Life while we confess Christ to be that Foundation But to argue for Sin and Imperfection term of Life and so to put off being Perfect till in Heaven as this Opposer hath done this is repugnant to the Foundation of living and purifying Faith and Hope and so excludes Holiness of Life howbeit he thinks to arrive at Heaven with the same Carnal Carcass or Corruptible Cask he now beats about with him only he thinks it will be new drest up and polisht after it is turned to Dust But the greatest Miracle is that it must not be Created a new nor a new Created Body and unless we grant him this he reckons our Religion a meer Cheat calculated only to the Service of the Devil and our own Lusts and that it denies any Eternal Advantage and therefore be opposeth the Christian to the Quaker p. 62. And what is the Marrow of his Matter for this severe Conclusion upon us But First he accuseth us of a palpable Denyal of all future and distinct Beings and Existences after Death pag. 62. which is a palpable and notorious Untruth for as we confess to the distinct Beings of Angels in Heaven so we confess the future distinct Beings and Existences of the Saints and Children of the Resurrection that in the World to come they shall be AS the Angels of God yea They which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that World and the Resurrection c. They shall be equal unto the Angels and are the Children of God being the Children of the Resurrection Luk. 20. 36. And what Bodies have these Angels of God Terrestrial or Celestial Carnal or Spiritual let that be considered 2dly The Man 's other Pretence is If the Soul be a Part of God Divine Infinite as before and returns into God being God it cannot miscarry he saith His Abuse concerning this hath been answer'd before both in this Treatise and in my Book of the Nature of Christianity And it was never asserted by us either of the Soul of Man or of the Spirit or Existence of Man or the Creature which may vary in its Affections to Good or Evil according to the Power that acts Man Neither can it be conceived in Reason but Envie that any of us should look upon the Infinite God to be Divisible into so many Parts or Particles as there are Entities or Existences of Men yet that there is an Infinite Life Principle or Seed in the Soul of every Man This we confess as that by which the Soul immortally subsists in its being and therefore this may be counted the Soul or Life of the Soul for without this the Soul of man could not subsist in an Immortal Capacity And this I and divers others can testifie that G. F. did not intend or asscribe either Immutability Infiniteness or Divinity to the meer formed or created Spirit Soul or Being of Man but to the divine immediate Inspiration or Breath of Life flowing from God himself who inspired into him an active Soul and breathed in a living Spirit Wisd. 15. 11. whereby Man became both a living and reasonable Soul indued with Rational Intellectual and Spiritual Parts 3dly I know no other Reason he can pretend for his Charge against us and our Religion as a Cheat and as denying an eternal Advantage but that we do not own his gross and carnal Sense of the Resurrection though it be none of our Phrase to say in these general words That the Body perisheth forever but hereby he plainly implies man's Incapacity of an
good without the Earthly and perishing Organs T. D. 3. Nor were the Promise to Glorifie Abraham's Soul made good without glorifying his Body too for the Happiness of the Soul is not Perfect without the Body its dear and beloved Companion the Soul having a strong Desire * and Inclination to a Re-union to the Body as the Schools not without good Ground determine vid. Calvin Harm Evang. in Mat. 22. 31 32. Luk. 20. 38. Answ. It is evident that this Man doth give this account that the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body not from any spiritual Sight of the Souls Happiness or Glory for in Page 81. he confesseth that the different Disposal of the Spirits of Man and Beast is not visible to the Eye of Sence and but dimly to the Eye of Reason and Faith although he has taken upon him by Tradition from Calvin c. to assert that the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body It may be understood that they have neither clear Reason nor perfect Faith for this and to be sure while he and others assert it without either we have no Reason to believe them But to answer him closely Both Calvin T. D. the Schools and divers Anabaptists are mistaken in this very Matter and see not with the Eye of true Faith either that the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body Or that the Soul hath a strong Desire to a Re-union to the Body â—…hile they intend the Terrestrial Elementary Bodies for this implies the Soul to be in a kind of Purgatory or Disquietness till the supposed Resumption of the Body and their Assertion and Determination herein is Contraty to what the Apostle saith 2 Cor. 5. for we know that if our earthly House of this Tabernacle were dissolved we have a Building of God an House not made with Hands eternal in the Heavens ver 1. for we that are in this Tabernacle do groan being burdened c. ver 4. We are confident I say and willing rather to be absent from the Body and to be present with the Lord ver 8. And said he I am in a Strait betwixt two having a Desire to depart c. Phil. 1. 23. See now the Stress of the Controversie where it lieth and that it is not only between these our Opposers Us but also between them and the Apostle Paul Thus viz. Calvin the Schools 〈◊〉 and Anabaptists determine and conclude That the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body and that the Soul when separate hath a strong Desire and Inclination to a Re-union to the Body But The Apostle Paul as knowing that when their Earthly House was dissolved they had a far better namely a Building of God Eternal in the Heavens Therefore in the Earthly Tabernacle they groâ—…ned being burdened as willing rather to be absent from the Body By which it appears they expected a more full Fruition or Felicity in the Heavenly Tabernacle then in the Earthly Their Soul did not desire after the Flesh as these Opposers imply neither had they any such Delight therein as fleshly Minds and carnal Contenders have Moreover the Apostle from the Visions and Revelations of the Lord saith I knew a Man in Christ above fourteen Years ago whether IN the Body or OUT of the Body I cannot tell God knows Such an one caught up to the third Heaven caught up into Paradise and heard upspeakable Words c. 2 Cor. 12. From hence consider that being caught up to the 3d Heaven into Paradise he doth not place the Sight and Sence of this Condition upon the Body for that he knew not whether he was In the Body or Out of the Body yet knew that he was a Man in Christ and in the Revelation of the Lord But he did not concern himself about this Earthly Body being so glorified in Heaven or Paradise as these Men do and carnally think who have neither Visions nor Revelations of the Lord concerning any such State but Calvin and the Schoolmens Determination contrary to the Apostles But the presumptuous Confidence of our Opposers appears the more in undertaking to assert or demonstrate the future State of the Soul as not being in perfect Happiness without the Body and as having a strong Desire after it while yet they neither know the State of the Soul nor have had so much as a Vision of the Glory thereof or of the glorified spiritual State of the Saints hereafter for Visions and Revelations they deem to be ceased long since and a Disposal of the Spirits of men after Death is not visible to the Eye of Sence and he saith but dimly to the Eye of Reason and Faith However while these Men cannot but appear themselves so Dim in these Sublime Matters and that while their dim Reason cannot reach them they cannot demonstrate to others either that the Souls of the Just in Heaven are not yet perfectly Happy or that they have such a strong Desire to a Re-union with the Body dissolved the shew themselves imaginary Intruders puft up in their fleshly Minds exercising themselves in things too high for them and it were better for them to sit down in Silence and wait in the Light to have some Sence and Knowledge of the true immortal Life to quicken them to God and not thus to busie themselves with unprofitable Talk brought forth from Imaginations of men and not from any true Sight or Revelation of the Conditions of Saints either here or hereafter His telling of Abraham's Soul living actually is true and as true it is That his Soul is in perfect Felicity and Glory and the more being out of the Earthly Tabernacle But his saying that the Body of Abraham or Bodies of the deceased Believers liveth potentially for this we have his own Traditional Assertion but not any Scripture-Proof or Phrase that suits it nor rational Demonstration for it As to his saying That if any shall say that Christ's Argument and his Application of it proves but the Resurrection of the Good c. I say his Application thereof seems but to extend to the Good as in his saying They whose God God is shall rise yet he hath not proved the Rising of their Earthly Bodies after they are dissolv'd to Dust and reduc'd to their first Elements but that there is a Resurrection of the Good and who of us questions that The Resurrection of the Good or of the Just being Glorious and extending not only to Arising out of the Fall out of Death that came by it out of the Grave of Corruption which hath followed yea out of the Dust of that Earth and out of all Afflictions here but also unto an Inheritance of Eternal Glory hereafter as They that be Wise shall shine as the Brightness of the Firmament and they that turn many to Righteousness as the Stars forever and ever So that they shall be so Celestial and Glorious as that they shall
incomparably excell these Terrestrial Bodies And therefore where it is said That the Saducees and Quakers Proposition be that there is no Resurrection from the Dead This is a Falshood against the Quakers and their Sufferings testifie the Contrary If a Man should say that the Wheat or other Grain in the Eare is not the self-same that was sown in the Earth doth it therefore follow that he denies the Arising of Wheat or any Grain at all Or that when the Apostle in Answer to the Question that some foolishly put said Thou Fool thou sowest not that Body which shall be doth it therefore follow that his Proposition was that there is No Resurrection from the Dead And whereas T. D. upon Eccles. 3. 19 20 21. confesseth That Men are said to be Beasts in respect to the Mortality of the Body which being composed of the same Materials with brute Beasts c. By this the Reader may observe what kind of Body these men are contending for and without which they reckon the Souls are not perfectly Happy and which they say The Soul hath a strong Desire to a Re-union with And with what but with the self-same Body which is composed of the same Materials with brute Beasts What! Cannot the Soul be â—…erfectly Happy without this O the gross Conceits of these Men And what do they place their chief Happiness Glory in but in such a perishing Body as is composed of the same Materials with brute Beasts which being Dust returns to the Earth as it was and the Spirit unto God who gave it Eccles. 12. 7. as he saith true to be disposed of as Justice or Mercy shall see meet But where he saith As for Ver. 21. If they be the Atheists words personated by Solomon they note the Reason of his Opinion c. herein he appears doubtful whether they be the Atheist's words or Solomon's for he dubiously varies again and saith If they be Solomon ' s own words c. Judge Reader Is this man fit to discourse of the future States of Men or Saints in Glory who when Solomon speaks of the Spirit of Man that goeth upwards knows not whether he personates the 〈◊〉 's words or his own Whenas he further saith The Spirit shall return unto God who gave it chap. 12. 7. which is implied in his saying The Spirit of a Man goeth upward But for Men to follow their own Imaginations and Traditions of others concerning the future State of Man which they have no spiritual Sight of as also to determine that the Soul aâ—…ter Man's Decease hath such a strong Desire after the Terrestrial or Carnal Body that it is not perfectly happy without it this while they have neither Truth nor Reason to demonstrate it doth really tend to open a Gap to Atheism and to make People Atheists who are not come to know an Immortal Principle in themselves to depend upon whereby the true Knowledge of Life and Immortality is to be revealed without which men are 〈◊〉 in their Knowledge as this man grants the Difference betâ—…ixt Man and Beast as to their future State not being visible to the Eye of Sence as their Agreement in Dissolution is therefore the Difference is only truly to be seen by a Spiritual Eye opened by the Divine Light whereby the Spiritual and Immortal State of Man is seen and the Glory of the Righteous beheld in the Everlasting Kingdom of God which Flesh and Blood cannot inherit neither can the Carnal Eye see the invisible God And I must conclude that while T. D. from 1 Cor. 15. affirms the whole drift of the Apostle in a great part of the Chapter is to shew that the same Body shall rise c. he doth but herein impose and beg the Question and I cannot at all graâ—…t him his Assertion to be true while the Apostle plainly distinguisheth between the first Adam and the Second the Earthly and the â—…eavenly The Natural Body and the Spiritual the Celestial and the Terrestrial and saith Thou â—…ool Thou sowest not that Body that shall be and Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God How plainly do these Passages contradict our Opposers As also is it not evident that the Man opposeth himself in granting That the Body shall rise with so differing Qualities that it shall be as unlike to what it was before as the standing Corn to the Seed put into the Earth or as one Sâ—…ar is to another in Brightness and Lustre how shall it then be the self-same Terrestrial Body For first Is the stâ—…nding Corn the self-same Seed that is put into the Earth Secondly Are the Bodies Celestial as those of Sun Moon and Stars one and the same with Terrestrial Bodies as those of Men Beasts and Fishes Verily I find nothing in this Man's Work about this Subject that has any real Weight in it and what he hath said of any seeming Stress it is answered here and in my Answer to the rest I desire the Lord may open all their Understandings and so quicken their spiritual Sences as that their Minds may be truly spiritualized that they may be more upon Spirit and less upon the Flesh so as to be morâ—…ified unto the Flesh that they may know a Life in the Spirit wherein they may live unto God in Righteousness here and Glory hereaâ—…ter to set down with 〈◊〉 Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of God Finally in these two Questions much of the Controversie is resâ—…lved about the â—…uture Rewâ—…rds of â—…ouls or of Men after Dissolution viz. 1. Whether the Righteous â—…e capable of perfect Happiness or the full Frustion of the 〈◊〉 Rest when separate from the Earthly 〈◊〉 or Terrestrial Body Yeâ—… or Naâ—… This may be considered and resolved in this Question viz. Whether the Angels of God in Heaven unto which the Children of God and the Resurrection are equal are in perfect Felicity and Glory who do not exist in Terresirial Bodies or whose Organs or Cloathing is not Earthly but Heavenly 2. Whether the Wicked be capable of absolute Misery when separate from the Earthly Tabernacle Yea or Nay Which on the other hand by the like Reason may be considered and resolved in this Question viz. Whether the Devil and his Angels be not capable of Everlasting Fire prepared for them without Terrestrial Bodies And then Whether the cursed Workers of Iniquity who live and dye in Sin are not to be sentenced into the same Everlasting Firâ—… But If it be supposed that the Wicked cannot be absolutely miserable without their Earthly and Elementary Body or Outside and therefore they must have it again to aggravate their Torment Doth not this then suppose that their Torment must be Worse then that of Devils that have not such Bodies supposed to aggravate their Torment Howbeâ—…t though the Judgment of the Wicked be many times figuratively expressed and set out in Scripture by Parables and Similes yet still there is a Reality of Judgment and Torment therein signified
Israel and it is likely buried in twelve distinct places the Bones will fly through the Air out of all those places and meet together in one Body Oh! what a great part of the Air Water and Earth will there run into Conjunction by the Command of Christ and be turned into those very Bodies which were resolved into them by Death and the Corruption of the Pit But with the Addition of such new Qualities as shall sublimate spiritualize and refine them from all that Dreggishness and ill humour that shall be the Foundation of any Sickness or Death forever then the Bones will come together be made like Stones for Strength then the Sinnews will be as it were Iron Sinnews and the Flesh Brass such Strength will be put into them as I conceive is not to be found in the strongest Creatures which hitherto God hath made that they might be fitted the Bodies of the Righteous for an Eternal Life of Happiness and bearing the Glory of Heaven The Bodies of the Wicked for an Eternal Life of Misery and bearing the Torments of Hell pag. 17 18. But what a Stirring will there be in the Earth Those which are alive will wonder to see such a strange Metamorphâ—… of the Ground to seel Men and Women stirring and moving under their Feet arising and crouding for Room amongst them Then will the Lord bring down all the Souls of the Righteous which have been in Paradise with him many Years and they shall find out their own Bodies And he will open the Prison of Hell and let out the Souls of the Wicked for a while that they also may find out their own Bodies pag. 19. The Book of God's Remembrance will be opened This we are to understand in a Spiritual Sense not as if there were a real Book which God did make use of for his Remembrance of things as Men do who have Frail and Weak Memories pag. 22. The Spirits of all the just Men and Women made persect shall then come down and enter again into their Old Habitations pag. 31. when the Soul left the Body vile to putrifie and corrupt in the Grave and shall finde it come forth more Bright and Glorious then Gold after it hath been resined in a Furnace If the Love between the Soul and the Body were so great when the Body was so vile and the Soul so Sinful what will it be when both are glorified If the Conjunction between the Soul and Body were so sweet when the Body was so Frail and subject to Death and the Soul a Spiritual and Never-dying Subscance what will it be when the Body shall be made immortal and in some sort spiritual pag. 32. No sooner are they awakened and risen out of their Graves but they are entertained by Angels those Holy and Excellent Creatures when before in the Body they were too low and unfit for their Acquaintance but they will then know them and be able to discern the Beauty of those lovely Spirits pag. 33. They will arise like so many shining Suns out of the Earth pag. 34. They admired to see the Saints and to see themselves so transformed pag. 36. He will bring the Keys of Death and Hell along with him and open both these Prison Doors not to give Liberty and Release to the Prisoners But as prisons are opened at Assizes to bring them sorth unto Judgment he will open the Prison of Hell and all the Souls of the Wicked shall come forth like so many 〈◊〉 cut of the bottomless Fit and he will open the Prison of the Grave and all their Bodies shall creep Like so many ugly Toads out of the Earth and then Soul and Body shall be joyned together again and this Meeting will be sad beyond Expression Then the Meeting of the Souls and Bodies of the Wicked will be dolesul pag. 46 47. It is said that the vile Bodies of the Righteous shall be made like unto Christ's Body in Beauty and Glory but the Bodies of the Wicked will have another Hew and Fashion if it were possible to fashion Bodies like Devils those impure and foul Spirits such spiritual Bodies the Wicked should have Be sure their Bodies shall have no Glory put upon them but as they lay down Vile Bodies they shall rise up far more Vile The Bodies of the Wicked most probably will be Swarthy Black Ugly Monstrous Bodies p. 48. The Blackness and Dread of the Soul would quickly appear in their Countenance besides the Impressions which the Fire of Hell will have upon them if the Body be black how black will the Soul be after so long abode with foul Devils in the lower Regions of Darkness And when such foul Souls and such vile Bodies meet what a Meeting what a Greeting will there be We may fancy a kind of Language to be between them at that Day The Soul to the Body Come out of thy Hole thou filthy Dunghil Flesh for the Pampering and Pleasing of whom I have lost my self forever who hast stolen away my Time and Thoughts and Heart from God and Christ and Heavenly Things to feed and cloathe and cherish thee and make Provision to satisfie thy base deceitful Lusts when I should have been making Provision for thine and mine Everlasting Happiness Awake and come forth of the Dust thou Bewitching Dirty Flesh who didst lull me asleep so long in thy pleasing Chains until thou didst suddenly open thy Doors and thrust me out where I was awakened in Torments before I was aware Now I must come into thy Doors again that thou mayst share and taste the Bitter Issue of sinful Pleasures and Delights And O how will the Body be affrighted so soon as the Soul is entered p. 49. The Body to the Soul And hast thou found me out O my Enemy Couldst not thou have let me alone to lie still at rest in this sweet Sleep Hast thou used me as a Slave and employed all my Members as Servants of Iniquity and Unrighteousness and 〈◊〉 thou come now to Torment me and is this the Fruit of all the Pleasures we have taken together Shouldst not thou have been more VVise and provided better for thy self and me O! what Cryes and Shreeks will the Tongue give forth so soon as it hath recovered its Use p. 50. 2. The second Antecedent to the Judgment of the Wicked will be their Meeting with Devils to entertain them at their Resurrection and then they will not appear unto them like Angels of Light as sometimes here they have done p. 50. but they will spit forth their Venom and Malice then in their Faces possibly they may buffet their Bodies and lay painful Stroaks upon them surely they will terrifie their Souls for those Sins they have drawn them unto the Commission of p. 51. How will they be affrighted at the Apparition of so many Devils about them when they shall lash their Spirits with Horrible Scourges when
Lucid they namely the Bodies of the Angels are with which the best of them are invested as truly that of Exod. 3. 2. Acts 7. 30. which answers well to that of Hebr. 1. 7. The Bodies of the more Glorious Angels are Igneous and Lacid That also is a remarkable Example of the Lucidity of the Bodies of Angels which we have Acts 12. where while Peter was sleeping betwixt two Souldiers in the Prison bound in Chains the Angel of the Lord is said to come upon him and a Light to shine in the Prison c. I will add one Instance more which is Dan. 10. 5. where the Angel that instructed Daniel is thus described Then I lifted up mine Eyes and looked and behold a certain Man cloathed in Linnen whose Loins were girded with fine Gold of Ophaz his Body was also like Beryl and his Face as the Appearance of Lightening and his Eyes as Lamps of Fire c. This Appearance certainly of this Angelical Shape is Fiery Lucid and Glorious It is manifest that they are very Luminous and Glorious Whoever is invested with such a Body as is reserved for the Sons of the Resurrection will be if he please to shew himself thus Lucid and Glorious of which I shall want no more Examples then that one of our Saviour Christ's Body for all ours at the Resurrection are to be made like to his Glorious Body and how Lucid and Angelical his Body was after his Ascension into Heaven may appear from Apocal. 1. 13. where one like unto the Son of Man is said to be cloathed with a Garment down to the Foot and girt about the Paps with a Colden Girdle his Head and his Fair to be white like Wool as white as Snow that his Eyes as a Flame of Fire and his Feet like unto fine Brass as if they were burning in a Furnace and his Voice as the Sound of many VVaters a sharp Two-edged Sword came out of his Mouth and his Countenance was as the Sun shining in his strength This Body I think is sufficiently Lucid and expresly and almost exactly conformable to that of the Angel which appeared to Daniel as any one may observe that listeth to compare them The like Appearance of our Saviour seâ—…meth to be also Apocal. 10. where an Angel is said to be cloathed with a Cloud with a Rain-Bow on his Head and his Face to be as the Sun c. I will add his Appearing to an out of the Heavens as he was going to Damascus Acts 9. that suddenly there shined round about him a Light from Heaven c. above the Brightness of the Sun Chap. 22. 6. 26. 13. Which again doth not only assure the Reality but the exceeding great Splendor of the Corporeal Presence of Christ which is also agreeable to that in Apocal. And his Countenance was as the Sun shining in his Strength Out of all which I hope it is plain enough that as our Saviour hath said That the Sons of the Resurrection do become iâ—…so facto Angels in Condition as well for the Splendour and Constitution of their Body as their Immortality The Body of our Saviour after his Refurrection being so accurately answerable in Light and Glory to the most illustrious Appearances of Angels in either the Old or New Testament and this alone one would think might be sufficient to assure us of the Lucidity or Luminosity of the Body of Christ as also of all our Resurrection-Bodies For the Spirituality of this Body see 1 Cor. 15. 44. It is sown a natural Body it is raised a spiritual Body there is a natural Body and there is a spiritual Body c. I think it is most reasonable to understand the Resurrection-Body to be called Spiritual not for that it is actuated by a Spirit for the Soul is a Spirit that actuates the natural Body but for that the Body it self is become spiritual which I must confess Calvin seems abhorrent from but meerly out of his Ignorance in Philosophy for he reprehends those qui substantiam corporis putant fore spiritualem c. Calvin seems to be afraid of the Opinion of the Body being spiritual as implying a substantial Change c. There is not any Inconvenience to admit that the Resurrectionâ—… Body is a spiritual Body that is to say that the Contexture of it is of more subtil Parts then those that constitute the Earthly Bodies pag. 498. And so he distinguishes between that Terrestrial Statue or Body that Adam had and the Spiritual Bodies of those that are made conformable to the last Adam and to his Glorious Condition Such as are not of a stupid and Statue-like Condition of themselves but of such a Nature as hath an Activity in it self and doth most wonderfully contribute to the most lively and most divine and enlarged vitall Operations of the Soul â—… In this Manner hath he gâ—…ven his Distinction upon the Words It is sown a Natural or Animal Body it is raised a Spiritual Body The Resurrection Body is Heavenly or Celestial as the first Man is of the Earth Earthly the second Man is the Lord from Heaven as is the Earthly such are they that are Earthly and as is the Heavenly such are they also that are Heavenly and as we have born the Image of the Earthly we shall also bear the Image of the Heavenly And then it follows But this I must tell you Brethren That Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God not that they shall only have Heavenly Bodies in a moral Sense or spiritual Meaning Bodies in which they shall be Heavenly-minded For such Slips as these and dilute Sences are very Dangerous c. but that they shall have an Heavenly Body in that Sense that Adam had an Earthly which was not called an Earthly Body for that he was Earthly-minded in it but because his Body was of an Earthly Substance Really and Physically Heavenly not only Morally we shall be such in our Corporeal Constitution as our Celestial Lord is in his we shall bear his Image of Heavenly Glory and Brightness not only in a Moral but Natural Sense nor can I imagine how Interpreters could be carried so forcibly off from so obvious and true a Sense had it not been by reason of some false Pre-conceptions in Philosophy that had corrupted their Minds and perverted their Judgments namely the Hypothesis of Ptoloâ—…e and Aristotle By an Heavenly Body I would understand an Angelical Body That the Heavens are fluid according to the most ancient and divinest Philosophy as the very Notation of the Hebrew word intimates Our resurrection-Resurrection-Bodies will be furnished with the Seeds and Principles of Light and Splendour and be more Beautiful and more full of Lustre and Glory then the Heavenly Matter it self as that part of the Earth which becomes an humane Body is more precious and beautiful then the Earth it self before it be modified into a Frame fit for the Functions of Life So that whether we
consider the Angelicalness Spirituality or Heavenliness of the Body at the Resurrection there is all Reason to conclude that it will be of a Bright and Lucid Nature which is not only agreeable to Reason and the Scripture but also to the Sayings of the Fathers themselves as S. Hâ—…rom S. Macariuâ—… S. Ephrem S. Austin as you may see in Vossius in his Theses de corpore glorioso But nothing more express for our Purpose then that of S. Ephrem in his Discourse of the Resurrection viz. Justorum corpora septuplum supra solis 〈◊〉 radios How Angelical how Spiritual how Heavenly or Celestial how refulgently Bright and Glorious the Bodies of the Blessed are c. and more particularly the Body of our Saviour that shone about Saint Paul and Saint John as the Sun in his Strength c The first Man is of the Earth Earthly the second Man that is the Lord Jesus the Heavenly Man from Heaven And who should be intirely Heavenly if not He And what has Earth to do to either descend from Heaven or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or what Body more radient or refulgent then the Sun in his greatest Brightness can be vitally Organized but it must be of an Heavenly Nature indeed We have all Reason in the World to conclude the Body of our Saviour intirely Cele ial Tâ—…e Terrestrial Modifications of his Body were changed all cloggings thereof were quel'd and abolish'd 〈◊〉 and Blood cannot i 〈◊〉 the Kingdom of God and I think there is the ame Reason of Flesh and Bones viz. I understand natural Flesh and Bones not glorified I demand by what Creed tâ—…at hath the â—…ssent of the Universal Church are we required to believe that the Glorified Body of Christ consisteth of Flesh Blood and Bones It â—…eming so contradictious to the exprestwords of the Apostle as well as uniuitable to the Nature of the Peavens which the Philosophers new adayes conclude to be universally flâ—…d He admits of a Body of Flesh and 〈◊〉 provided they be Celestial and Spiritual Flesh and Bones p. 503. If any mortal could get within this so refulgent Orb of Glory and Brightâ—…ss and approach so near as to see the Fraim and Feature of â—…o Divine a Body no Heart could escape from being struck into a 〈◊〉 at the Sight of so over-coming a Beauty and Majesty nor the Soul of the Beholder from being carried quite away in an extatick Fit of Love and Joy and transporting Admiration p. 503. Touching the Sameness of the Body The Atheist makes a fresh Assault from the sense of the word Resurrectio as it is imply'd the rising again of the very same numerical Body in the strictest Scholastick Sense To which is answered first That 〈◊〉 in Latin implies no such thing necessarily but that as a City or Temple suppose being razed to the Ground and from the very Foundations is truly laid to be Rebuilt and so is both deemed called the same Temple and City again though nâ—…t a Stone were used of the former Structure provided only that they be rebuilt upon the same Ground though the â—…ame numerical Matter were not congested together to make the same Body at the Resurrection the stable Perâ—…onality being in the Soul c. He placeth the Sameneâ—…s of the Body that shall be upon its vital Union with the Soul and faith Tâ—…at Resurrectio is to be interpreted according to the Latitude of the Original to which it answers namely 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifie only Vivification or Erection into Life but then considering it is spoken of them that have in some sense ceased to be alive that in that sense it signifies Revivification whence the Atheists Objection from the word Resurrectio is utterly defeated p. 506. The Scholastick State of the Resurrection is described namely That we shall have the same Numerical Bodies 〈◊〉 which we lived here on Earth and that these very Bodâ—…es the Moulds being turned aside shall start out of the Grave To which I presently subjoyn This Dâ—…ctrine the Atheist very dearly hugs as a Pledge in his bold Conceâ—… of the Falsness and Vanity of all the other Articles of Religion But for those that take any Pleasure or find any Ease or Satisfaction of Mind in the Conclusions or Pâ—…raseologies of the School-Divines touching this Point they are left free to enjoy their own Apprehensions and may if they please either fancy it necessary that all Bodies should rise out of the Ground the Moulds being cast aside or else conceive only that God will by his Omnipotency gather all the Particles of our Bodies whether flying in the Air or sâ—…ting in the Water and frame them together on the Surface of the Earth c concerning such things they may vary their Fancies as they pleaâ—…e 〈◊〉 p 508. To the second Objection he saith I answer farther as concerning the Scripture it self That I dare challenge him o produce any place of Scripture out of which he can make it appear that the Mystery of the Resurrection implies a Resuscitation of the same Numerical Body The most pregnant of all is Job 19. which later Interpreters are now so wise as not to understand at all of the Resurrection The 1 Cor. 15. that Chapter is so far from asserting this Curiosity that it plainly sayes it is not the same Body but that as God gives to the Blades of Corn Grains quite distinct from that which waâ—… sown so at the Resurrection he will give the Soul a Body quite different from that which was buried as different as a Spiritual Body is from a Natural Body or an Heavenly from an Earthly p. 508 509. A POST SCRIPT By way of Animad version and Counsel SErious and impartial Reader I have collected these Passages that thou mayst not only see how some of these learned Men differ about this mysterious and 〈◊〉 Point but also how unreasonable it is for any of them to be 〈◊〉 this or the like unlearned 〈◊〉 upon us viz. How and with what Body are the Dead raised c or to seek Occasions to vilifie us about this Point which 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 are not only confounded but liable to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Question is not only unlearned but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 unnecessary unto Salvation it is not necessary that 〈◊〉 should imagine 〈◊〉 they shall be cloathed or 〈◊〉 with Bodies in Heaven but to enquire the Way 〈◊〉 that they may walk in it and be solicitous to know that Power and inward Operation whereby they may be made Sons of God and attain to the Resurrection of the Dead as being Children of God and of the Resurrection If men walk in the True Light and so truly serve and please God on Earth they shall not need to 〈◊〉 or dispute about their future Beings in Heaven Their Business is to get thither and 〈◊〉 will well accommodate them there Men ought not to be too curious and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Matters beyond their reach as to the Manner
suffering Times and se 〈◊〉 Inâ—…erest and Gain hath much stopt you (t) You cannot get them rooted out without the Power of God which only is received by believing in his Light within (v) Your House is not yet purged of them however this was an honest Care to endeavour such a purging better then to excommunicate Persons for owning the Light within (w) Which they are very prone to for Advantage (x) Many more Evils you had nâ—…od now to spread before them But S. S. tells us not whether or no he owns those Books called Apocrypka or any of them as any part of his Rule or Canon or whether he is not of the same Opinion with his Masters of the Assembly where in their confession they say that the Books commonly call'd Apocrypha not being of divine Inspiration are no part of the Canon of the Scriptures therefore are of no Authority in the Church of God nor to be any otherwise approved or made use of then other human Writings Thus farr the Assembly but this general Debasement of these Books we cannot own 1 Sam 28. 11. 〈◊〉 This Contra-distinction is his own or Tutor's Inventing * Mark well pag. 93. pag. 94. pag. 95. pag. 96. * Though they seem to render Adam worse then the Devil who is the Author of sin and Immediate Tempter to it to lay more to Adam's Charge then to the Devil or their own corrupt Hearts and vile Affections which constantly attâ—…nd them pag. 98. Luk. 15. 18 19. pag. 99. To his 10. 11th Argum. pag. 89. pag. 130. pag. 100. pag. 100. The Apostles Doctrine our Opposers Inconsistent * Many more Comparisons instances might be produced to 〈◊〉 how inconsisient our Opposers are with the true Apostles and their Doctrine Object pag. 101. pag. 102. Notewhat Doctrine is here Phil. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. Arg. 12. 13. pag. 103. pag. 103. 104. pag. 104. pag. 106. pag. 102. pag. 104. Truth saith not this to Christ but to the Offenders Deut. 27. A Testimony against S. S's Doctrine Isa. 43. 11 25. pag. 104. pag. 104. pag. 105. As S. S. hath pag. 105. Also his Brother T. Dans. saith Christ was not Innocent but guilty of our Sins when he suffered Synops. p. 36 40. pag. 105. pag. 105. Heb. 12. 24. Chap. 9. 14 15. pag. 106. Christ's tasting Death for every Man could not be the same with the full Punishment that 's due for Sin pag. 106. pag. 107. pag. 108. Is not this like the Language of Hell or theirs saing of Christ will he kil himself And he is guilty of death This is something like his Brother W. Haworth his Affirming That the Father poured out all his Wrath upon his Son Jesus Christ and that this way he Satisfied Vengeance which he cals his Justice in his Epistle to their Quaker Converted answered by John Crook and W. Bayly in their Book Rebellion rebuked but the Adversaries of Truth shall finde there 's wrath yet for them if they repent not pag. 109. pag. 109. pag. 109. pag. 109. pag. 110. pag. 110. Object 〈◊〉 Hebr. 9. 23. The Presbyterians or Predestinarians Gospel anti-scriptural The Conditions and Tendence of the Quakers Gospel Scriptural Presbyter Opinion * What soever makes no Exception of either good or bad Actions of men and this is high Ranterism * Note They place it upon particular Persons rendering God a Respecter of Persons * Whereas he dyed for all men and is a Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World These were of cur Opposers 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is Order or Rank 1 Cor. 15. 23. Edom relates to the Earthly Birth Gen. 35. 10. Confession of Faith The Hardness and Cruelty of Pharaoh 〈◊〉 appâ—…ared against the Hebrews witness the Murtherous Intentioâ—… of that King who gave Command to kill thâ—… Male-children Exod 1. 16. their great Affliction Bondage v. 11 14. until the Lord heard their Cry aâ—…ter much Forbcarance pag. 115. * Which is our Sense of the Matter in both * Note the Consequences of the Predestinaâ—…ian Opinion against universaâ—… Grace Pag. 116. 1 Sam. 11. 5 15. 12. 9. Psal. 89 These many do slight and refuse and both resist grieve quench the Spirit in its low and tender Appearance to their own Destruction and Misery when the Love and long Suffering of God is turned into Wrath and Indignation against them * How long before their Conformity to Christ were they appointed Was it from all Eternity or rather in their Age and Time Had not this and all other meer Acts and Works of God a beginning in their time and season considered as meer Acts Could this of his appointment then be from eternity and so far a Preappointment meerly respecting particular Persons and with exclusion of all besides from any saving Grace This is still harsh and partial and unequal contrary to God's Wayes although as the general Fore-appointment and Ordination of God concerning the true Believers and obedient is that they shall be saved So this Predestina ion or Fore-appointment includes or reaches all the many holy Brethren in whom Christ is formed Vid. Mass in Lat. Eng. by Ja. Mountain pag. 121 122 123. pag. 69. Pag. 69. Pag. 70. Pag. 70. Indef Seek pag. 71. The Light within the Rule Pag. 74. Vide Gill's Sermen on Eccl. 7. 19 20. in his Essay * Dialoge 1 Cor. 15. 22 23. 2 Cor. 5. 1. 8. Phil. 1. 21. Acts 17. 30 31. Mat. 10. 15. 11. 22 24. 12. 36. Job 21. 30. 2 Pet. 2. 9. 3. 7. Psal. 102. 25. Hebr. 1. 10 11 21. See also 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Chap. 19. 〈◊〉 * He takes It for Idem the Self same Body but where hath he this â—…ither from the Greek or Latine on the place cited Isa. 3. 9. Luk. 20. 35. * T. D. 〈◊〉 Note Pag. 16. * Note Then not the same gross Bodies but as a pure Extract * Which cannot be This 〈◊〉 Flesh. * Not Why are we not then to have as spiritual a Sense of the Resurrection * Nay they shall have far better * A Glory 〈◊〉 that of 〈◊〉 Earthly Bodies * Not only as spiritually qualified but as a spiritual Body * Which excel all Terrestrial Bodies * Concerning the Judgment of the Wiked * Which is not Carnal but Spiritual * And who must make so vile and like Devils * And who must drag the Devils to Judgment then if they must be so officious for Justice * What sad Work 's here * He thinks of a Good Place for himself however * Rather an empty talk to sell at a dear raâ—… * Presbyters are not wont to be so free * Is it so then God did not decree it as his own meer Wist Pleasure 〈◊〉 personal Election and Reprobation * Was he so Good Doctrine But then he did not decree their Damnation from eternity * True then the true light was freely given to them to shew them the Way out of evil * That was their Fault still and not Gods Decreâ—… * What will become of the Covetous Priests and Presbyters then * And so did many of the Presbyters when parish Priests * An Uncharitable Sentence * The guilty Conscience and dâ—…filed Mind is attended with such Imaginations of Torments which though they are not real but Imaginary yet they produce a real Torment and Horror to some and in these things appears an Image of that future Darkness that the Wicked will have their due Rewards in But these frightfull Stories of T. Vincent's do not fright People out of their Sins nor reach their Consâ—… for that End They must be directed to the LIGHT which discovers Sin and disturbeth Men in their wicked Courses as he corâ—…sesseth To this they must come and bring their Deeds whoever escape Damnation or attain to the blessed Resurrection and future Glory From a true Sence and Knowledge of the Terrors of the Lord men may be perswaded from Evil to Good and their Hearts become broken with a sence of his Goodness therein when meer Dreams and Fancies will not fright them to Heaven nor truly reduce them from any Sin or Evil. * Note 2 Cor. 5.