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A29128	The conviction of James Naylor and his black spirit demonstrated from his own confessions, lyes, evasions, and contradictions in the maine points of doctrine by him held forth against the truth in answer to a book of his called Wickednesse weighed : the which was writt in answer to a little treatise called The Quakers quaking principles examined and refuted, written by Ellis Bradshavv ... / written by Ellis Bradshavve.	Bradshaw, Ellis.	1656 (1656)	Wing B4140; ESTC R37455	43,826	56

Christ is able to inlighten little children and to make them capable of comprehending of it and that so he doth to his Elect that depart this life in their childhood and minoritie for Jeremiah was sanctified in the wombe and John Baptist filled with the Holy-Ghost from his mothers belly and that Christ himselfe was qualified with the blessed Deitie in the very seede of the woman And yet considered as man hee did not in his minoritie comprehend that light which dwelt in him bodily but increased in wisdome and stature and favour with God and man as Luk. 2.52 Yea though considered as God he thought it no robbery to be equall with God yet as man hee was ignorant of the times and seasons which the Father had kept in his owne power Nay after he was ascended and sate downe at the right hand of the Majestie on high when hee gave forth the Revelation of Saint John hee had it but at the second hand considered as man for it is called the Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to passe and hee sent and signified it by his Angell unto his servant John so that John had it but at the third hand though he had Christ the light Recident in him as so had also the seaven Churches of Asia and the Angells thereof yet they had but this Revelation at the fourth and fift hand therefore meanes are good From all which it is evident that though God can and doth when he seeth it good and necessary communicate his light Immediately by his blessed Spirit unto whom he pleaseth Yet his ordinarie way where meanes is to be had is by the foolishnesse of preaching as so the world accounteth it to save them that beleeve And therefore such doctrines as these which tend so directly contrary to the use of meanes are as absurd and wicked as if they should teach their children not to eate any meate because God is able to preserve them without Nay it is so much worse by how much the soule is better then the body And this and many more such like things I did assert in my Booke But is there any thing heere against the sufficiency of the light of Christ or so much as intended save onely I plead for the use of meanes to get his light mediately or immediately against which he hath nothing to answer and therefore falls to cavill against a manifest truth to wit That after Christ was sate downe on the Right hand of the Majestie on high hee had the Revelation considered as man but at the second hand And makes great adoe as though hee did not understand what I meane by having it at the second hand and yet hee remembers I said hee Received it of God and yet is stumbled to know which was the first hand I answer God had it first it was in his hand and power before Jesus Christ had it given to him so that hee had it not first but at the second hand and this is plaine in the Text for all his blind cavills And then againe that John had it but at the third hand I say it againe And hee saith is not this strange doctrine of thine and hee had it from the Alpha and Omega the allmightie or did hee not speake true who said hee was so Rev. 1.8 To which I answer And did not hee speake true that said of Jesus Christ that hee sent and signified it by his Angell unto his servant John And is not Jesus Christ in heaven And must not the heavens containe him till all things be restored Therefore it was not Jesus Christ considered as man but his Representative Michaell the Archangell who Representatively vissibillified the Invisible essence of the blessed Deitie of the Sonne of God the Lord Jesus Christ in like manner as also before his Incarnation the Lord alwayes Represented himselfe in the similitude of a man when he spake unto the Prophets in vision as Ezekiell 1.25 26. To wit Vpon the likenesse of the throne was the likenesse as the appearance of a man above upon it And from thence came the voyce see vers 25. From the firmament that was over their heads But these were onely likenesses and similitudes shewed in vision by Angells as the most proper similitude of the presence of the invisible God And therefore it is said this was the similitude of the glory of the Lord clearely shewing that it was but a similitude of his glory and when the Prophet saw it he fell upon his face and a voyce of one that spake saying c. see vers 28. See also Dan. 7. What hee saw in his visions by night vers 9.13 Hee saw one live the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven But this was not the Son of Man for hee was not then visible in the world And so I say of this Alpha and Omega it was not the visible body of Christ but onely a Representation of the essentiall word who is every where present in spirit at one and the same time and doth sometimes vocally expresse himselfe to the capacities of his Prophets by the ministration of Angells As so hee did also to John in this place see Revel 1.13 Hee is said to be one like unto the sonne of man cloathed with a garment downe to the foote and girt about the paps with a golden girdle his head and haires were white like wooll as white as snow and his eyes were as a flame of fire vers 14. And without all question Christ was present in spirit and so exprest himselfe as the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end and to be hee that liveth and was dead and is alive for evermore Amen I say Christ was present even there in spirit for so he is alwayes and that every where to the end of the world see Mat. 28.20 But the spirit of Christ is invisible whom never man saw neither can see but through an eye of faith Therefore this vissibillitie that appeared unto John was not properly the essence of the Deitie which is invisible but God was there present causing such appearances and voyces by the ministration of Angells For it is said Hee sent and signified it by his Angell unto his servant John vers 1. And so it is both true that the Alpha and Omega was there by vision and yet that it was but signified by voyce and vision by an Angell and so the Alpha and Omega did not lye nor the Apostle neither Neither was it any thing but truth which I asserted to wit that Christ considered as man had it given him of God and hee sent and signified it by his Angell to his servant John which communicated it to the seaven Churches but first to the Angells And therefore the use I made of it is nothing but proper and true nor can James Naylor deny the truth thereof with any reason nor the proprietie of the use

like Returnes of Reciprocall Communication of love and honour where it is sincere For the looking forth of the spirit of love through the eyes and face is as an invitation to the same spirit if it be in another to looke forth also and salute each other beeing not two but one and the same spirit though in two persons by operation in both their spirits to shew its onenesse and make them so likewise if they doe apply yea that they may be one as God is one for nothing but love can make two one as God is one and there is no spirit of love but one and that is God I meane of love that is true and lawfull Now this spirit of love is the same spirit in us which was in the Patriarkes before the Law was given forth and did ingage them to such humble honourable and amiable affections and to such expressions as are naturall to it And if we have any little measure of the same spirit it will ingage us also to doe the like if wee doe not resist it and wee are forbid to resist the spirit Now it sometimes ingageth those in whom it dwells to lift up their eyes or their hands towards heaven and sometimes both according as it ingageth the heart and affections the which if wee resist wee resist the spirit And it is easily discernable through the eyes whether such their motions come from the heart or they are but fained especially by such who are also acquainted with such ejaculations of their owne hearts and of their eyes and hands as they are affected And I doe beleeve that many of the Quakers have resisted the spirit and quenched it also before they could get their hearts to comply with such uncourteous carriage as not to put off their hatts and bow their bodies and use the word you to such whom they formerly had been so accustomed So that now they are growne to such hardnesse of heart and searednesse of spirit that nothing can be seene in them of naturall affection but more like bruite beasts made to be taken and to be destroyed see 2 Tim. 3.3 2 Pet. 2.12 as was prophesied of them in these last dayes And whereas hee telleth mee that I belye the spirit of God for saith he the spirit of God forbids it James 2. even that which setts up pride and respects persons I answer so doe I also forbid pride and respect of persons in that sense there meant and in many other and I can love and honour the poore that are virtuous more then the rich that are either wicked or not so virtuous nor would I debase or depresse the poore because he is poore to exalt the rich in partiall respect But I must honour all men and give them due respect and shall I hope as I know what it is but to shew no respect to any at all as so the Quakers doe is to shew plainly that I have not any love or Respect in mee And againe saith hee Christ himselfe saith How can you beleeve that Receive honour one of another John 5.44 And if they could not beleeve that received honour how much lesse can you beleeve that seeke it and grudge if you have it not I answer let them that seeke it or Receive it either that which cometh but from men answer for themselves I seeke it not nor receive it neither but that which cometh of God onely if I know it from the other Now that which cometh of God is really cordiall and I must receive it and Returne the like as so I am naturally ingaged by the love and honour which is of God in my owne soule nor doe I dissemble any more then they Now there is a common love and a common respect and customarie honour to which I am bound by that command to wit honour all men but there is a nearer and more particular love and honour and courtesie which will induce mee to a fuller expression both in word and deed and I am so ingaged by the same spirit and in all this there is no partiallitie or respect of persons but as I ought to doe And so his comparison of mee to Haman and Saul I have good ground to deny And againe saith hee not having any Scripture to plead for these things thou wouldst plead for them under the pretence of love and being courteous and tender-hearted I say saith he silence deceite you have sett up these things till you have lost all love but what is selfish c. I answer I did produce diverse Scriptures but they are none it seemes with him is there no Scripture that commandeth love and to be courteous and tender-hearted What spirit is this but a lying Devill that proceedeth on upon this lying foundation to rayling and reviling and prophesying the destruction of all our fading glorie because wee maintaine the lawfullnesse of these customarie Civilities but because his bookes are so full of lyes I doe not much regard either his rayling or prophesying but to cleare up the truth which the Lord assisting mee I have in some measure done and doe commit the same to his blessing and disposall to whom be all the honour and glorie and praise for ever and ever Amen Amen The End A Postscript to fill up a sheet that wanted being a Catalogue of some of James Naylors lyes gathered out of his booke in five or six houres time to let the Reader see hee is none of those children that will not lye but when hee can no otherwise shift off the dint of a Scripture or argument hee maketh lyes his Refuge and under vanitie would hide himselfe if such coverings were not too narrow but that hee could wrapp himselfe How faine would hee appeare to be all in sheepes cloathing though Inwardly hee is ravening and Woolffish A Catalogue of some of James Naylors lyes 1. HEE saith my booke is much boasted off by the Author but as little worth as the boast is great 2. Hee saith it was my envie that carried me with such envie against the Innocent till I spake I knew not what 3. Hee saith hee hath set downe some markes and maintenance of the true Ministers and also of the false their fruits differing them according to Christs Rules in Scripture with diverse other things to keepe the simple from deceit 4. Hee saith it is by a friend to the worke of God but an enemy to the Devills worke where it is found and pleaded for called by the world James Naylor These foure lyes are in his Title page and are answered pag. 1 2 3. 5. Hee saith I have boasted much of my worke 6. That I have forgot that teaching to let other men praise mee and not my owne mouth 7. That I have prooved nothing against James Naylor but against my selfe These three are in his first page 8. That I have writ against the light of Christ being sufficient 9. That I would binde them to creature-worships and Nationall customes 10. That I