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A20474 A probleme propounded by Francis Dillingham, in which is plainely shewed, that the holy scriptures haue met with popish arguments and opinions. Dillingham, Francis, d. 1625. 1616 (1616) STC 6887; ESTC S117462 12,729 50

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Image of God to remember him this cavill is cut off in the next wordes And lest you make you any graven Image or likenes of any thing as the Lord thy God hath charged thee and in the 15. verse Take heed to your selues for yee saw no Image in the day that the Lord spake vnto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire Now where as God saith Bellarmin may be painted imperfectly I would faine knowe how God can be so painted seeing he hath reuealed himselfe in the blessed Trinity Thus writeth Bellarmine vbi tamen notandum etc. Where notwithstanding it is to be noted that such Images are not to be multiplyed neither is it to be suffered that Paynters dare of their owne heads faine Images of the Trinitie as when they paynt one man with three faces or one man with two heads and in the midest of them a Doue These are monsters and doe rather offend by their deformitie then helpe by their similitude Thus farre Bellarmine and truly by the same proportion so are all other Images of God wherefore I say with Durand lib 3. distinct 9 quaest 2. It is impietie to Paynt that which is Divine and if any man say that the holy Ghost did appeare in the forme of a Doue we must say that those formes were not taken into unitie of person wherefore no reuerence is due to them This hath Durand written with many more words which I haue omitted for brevitie sake God teach vs to remember him aright to detest our owne inuentions I deale onely with the scriptures and therfore I medle little with humane testimonyes Of persevering in grace whether faith and righteousnes be proper to the elect and whether saving faith being once had may be wholly and finally lost The papists hold that it may be lost Bellar. lib. 3. de iustif ca. 14. SAint Peter in his first Epistle cap 1. v. 3. Thus writeth Blessed be God even the father of our Lord Iesus Christ which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten vs againe vnto a liuely hope by the resurection of Iesus Christ from the dead unto an inheritance immortall undefiled and that fadeth not away reserued in heauen for you Thus farr S. Peter Now some might obiect and say as the papists doe we may leese this hope inheritance Nay saith S. Peter in the next wordes verse it is not so we are kept by the power of God thorough faith unto saluation which is prepared to be shewed in the last time So then the power of God preserveth vs thorough faith if our Saluation were suspended vpon our owne selues then no doubt we might leese the same The same S. Peter in his 2 epistle 1 chap. 10 verse exhorteth the dispersed Iewes to make their calling and election sure Some might say and cavill it cannot be so for we may wholly and finally fall nay saith S. Peter that cannot be For if you doe these things ye shall never fall He doth not meane they shal not sinne but they shall not wholly or finally fall from grace all the Saints sinne yet a true Saint cannot totally for ever fall from grace And as S. Peter hath met with these cavills so likewise hath S. Iohn 1 epist chap. 2. v. 19. They went out from us but they were not of us some might say that it is not so for they might be both nay saith S. Iohn that is not so For if they had ben of us they had remayned with us but this commeth to passe that it might appeare they were not of us In the same Epist cap. 3. v. 9. it is thus written Whosoever is borne of God sinneth not for his seed remaineth in him I but saith the papist it is true so long as charity is in him but he may lose it nay saith S. Iohn Neither can he sinne because he is borne of God And whereas they say faith is not peculiar to the elect I marvell that they will not see these plaine scriptures Titus 1. v. 1. Paul a servant of God an Apostle of Iesus Christ according to the faith of Gods elect And Act. 13. v. 48. As many as were ordayned to eternall life beleeved Of Purgatory THe papistes teach Purgatory a place after death in which the godly must be purged from their sinnes having not perfectly satisfied in this life Now let vs see how the Scripture meets with this conceite In the 7. chap of the Romans Paul cryeth out after this manner O wretched man that I am who shall deliver me from the body of this death I thank God through Iesus Christ our Lord. Some might say Paul if thou beest so miserable then thou art in the state of damnation marke how the Apostle answereth this doubt Now then there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Iesus which walke not after the fleesh but after the spirit Nay saith the Apostle though I am miserable in my selfe yet am I happy in Christ Iesus and not only I but all that are godly And heere by the way let vs obserue a poynt in Divinity we teach that sinne is euery breach of Gods law deseruing the curse This must be vnderstood with this exception except a man be in Christ Iesus sinne of it self deserueth the curse but in Christ it is taken away To proceed as this place preuenteth purgatory so doth another place also in the 2. of the Cor. 5. Chap. 1. vers For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle be dissolued we haue a building giuen of God that is an house not made with hands but eternall in the heauens In the 17. v. of the former chapt these are S. Paul his words For our light affliction which is but for a moment causeth unto us a farre more excellent and eternall weight of glory Some man might demand when shall we haue this glory the Apostle answereth when our earthly tabernacle is dissolued But heere some will say why did the Fathers pray for the dead although I haue answered this obiection in another treatise yet here I will speake somewhat of it Hildebert in his 4 epistle being exhorted by his friend to pray for a Queene saith that he did preuent his exhortation Oratis saith he quidem orari pro ea sed credimus eam plus posse suis adiuuare quàm agere nostris precibus adiuuari We beleeue that she rather helpeth vs by her prayers then that she neede be helped by our prayers Yet saith he Vestram tamen praecessimus exhortationem We preuented your exhortation ergo they prayed for those that were in heaven Alcuinus in his booke De diuints officiis cap. 43. hath these words Aliquibus in locis generaliter pro omnibus defuncttis omni tempore exceptis Penticostes et festis diebus oratur in officio vespertinali At evēing prayer in some places they pray generally for all the dead at all times except the dayes of Pentecost festivall dayes Ergo