Selected quad for the lemma: friend_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
friend_n	word_n	work_n	write_v	151	4	4.7584	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15082	A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*	White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641.	1624 (1624)	STC 25382; ESTC S122241	841,497	706

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counsel_n though_o the_o vulgar_a be_v not_o bind_v explicit_o to_o know_v they_o answer_n when_o the_o distinct_a and_o special_a manner_n be_v reveal_v and_o belong_v to_o the_o form_n and_o be_v of_o a_o article_n we_o be_v oblige_v to_o inquire_v and_o firm_o to_o believe_v the_o same_o according_a to_o the_o instance_n give_v about_o the_o personal_a union_n but_o when_o the_o same_o be_v not_o distinct_o and_o plain_o reveal_v nor_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o mystery_n it_o be_v more_o safe_a according_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o father_n 6._o to_o be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o which_o be_v abstruse_a and_o hide_a than_o to_o be_v curious_a beyond_o our_o model_n exod._n 19_o 17._o pro._n 25.27_o act._n 1.7_o rom._n 12.3_o 1._o cor._n 4.6_o col._n 2.18_o touch_v thing_n inscrutable_a s._n chrysostome_n say_v 76._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v better_a to_o be_v sober_o ignorant_a than_o naughty_o intelligent_a s._n hierom_n eustoch_n melius_fw-la est_fw-la aliquid_fw-la nescire_fw-la securè_fw-la quam_fw-la cum_fw-la periculo_fw-la discere_fw-la it_o be_v better_a to_o be_v ignorant_a of_o some_o thing_n with_o safety_n 〈◊〉_d to_o seek_v to_o learn_v they_o with_o peril_n s._n augustine_n 7._o melior_fw-la est_fw-la fidelis_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la quam_fw-la temeraria_fw-la scientia_fw-la and_o justine_n martyr_n fid_fw-we it_o be_v the_o part_n of_o every_o prudent_a and_o pious_a man_n in_o matter_n divine_a sometime_o to_o give_v the_o wall_n to_o that_o which_o exceed_v his_o model_n s._n athanasius_n serap_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o very_a cherubim_n vail_v their_o face_n when_o it_o be_v come_v thus_o far_o saluianus_n provide_v in_o like_a manner_n say_v sacriligae_fw-la temeritatis_fw-la quoddam_fw-la genus_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la plus_fw-la scire_fw-la cupias_fw-la quam_fw-la sinaris_fw-la it_o be_v sacrilegious_a temeritie_n to_o covet_v to_o know_v that_o which_o thou_o be_v not_o permit_v but_o the_o question_n of_o theology_n which_o be_v de_fw-fr modo_fw-la concern_v the_o distinct_a manner_n in_o many_o case_n want_v sufficient_a ground_n in_o divine_a revelation_n to_o unfold_v they_o and_o therefore_o in_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n humble_a silence_n be_v more_o safe_a than_o temerarious_a definition_n jesuit_fw-la in_o this_o sort_n we_o say_v that_o the_o manner_n how_o our_o saviour_n body_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o last_o supper_n must_v be_v believe_v and_o may_v not_o be_v deny_v as_o far_o as_o it_o concern_v the_o very_a life_n be_v and_o substance_n of_o the_o mystery_n reveal_v which_o mystery_n in_o substance_n be_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o the_o priest_n minister_v thereof_o demonstrate_v what_o seem_v bread_n may_v true_o say_v thereof_o in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n this_o suppose_a as_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o mystery_n i_o infer_v that_o two_o catholic_a doctrine_n concern_v the_o manner_n of_o this_o mystery_n

knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n second_o our_o saviour_n word_n luk._n 15.10_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o conclusion_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o must_v not_o be_v strain_v beyond_o the_o true_a scope_n etc._n but_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o sundry_a father_n 168._o and_o some_o learned_a papist_n 〈◊〉_d the_o hundred_o sheep_n vers._n 4._o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o elect_n consist_v of_o man_n and_o angel_n the_o ninety_o and_o nine_o sheep_n not_o lose_v be_v the_o angel_n persist_v in_o their_o prime_a integrity_n the_o stray_n sheep_n all_o mankind_n sin_v in_o adam_n to_o recover_v this_o lose_a sheep_n the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o good_a shepherd_n john_n 10._o 11._o be_v incarnate_a and_o by_o the_o gracious_a work_n of_o redemption_n he_o lay_v the_o same_o on_o his_o shoulder_n now_o there_o be_v great_a joy_n in_o heaven_n before_o the_o celestial_a angel_n for_o this_o recovery_n and_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n but_o if_o this_o exposition_n be_v admit_v no_o more_o can_v be_v infer_v but_o that_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o same_o the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o man_n redemption_n neither_o be_v it_o consequent_a the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o the_o conversion_n and_o reduction_n of_o mankind_n ergo_fw-la they_o know_v distinct_o and_o perpetual_o the_o particular_a quality_n of_o every_o individual_a sinner_n repentance_n last_o if_o the_o say_a word_n luke_n 15._o 10._o be_v understand_v of_o sinner_n in_o particular_a this_o text_n yet_o fall_v short_a to_o prove_v that_o all_o the_o celestial_a angel_n perpetual_o and_o at_o the_o very_a instant_n know_v the_o particular_a true_a repentance_n of_o every_o sinner_n individual_o for_o the_o same_o may_v be_v understand_v according_a to_o this_o supposition_n or_o reflection_n to_o wit_n there_o be_v joy_n before_o the_o angel_n of_o heaven_n over_o one_o sinner_n which_o repent_v when_o the_o repentance_n of_o this_o one_o sinner_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o they_o but_o it_o be_v not_o say_v neither_o can_v it_o be_v infer_v that_o celestial_a angel_n know_v constant_o and_o at_o all_o time_n when_o each_o individual_a person_n repent_v true_o our_o adversary_n therefore_o can_v ground_v a_o infallible_a doctrine_n touch_v angelical_a science_n upon_o a_o branch_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o according_a to_o themselves_o admit_v diverse_a exposition_n and_o the_o consequence_n whereof_o be_v not_o necessary_a but_o contingent_a and_o upon_o supposition_n jesuit_fw-la saint_n paul_n say_v we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n unto_o god_n 9_o and_o angel_n and_o he_o adjure_v timothy_n by_o god_n and_o his_o angel_n which_o show_v that_o we_o live_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o angel_n and_o that_o they_o behold_v what_o we_o do_v and_o hear_v what_o we_o say_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n answer_n saint_n paul_n word_n be_v 1._o corinth_n 4._o 9_o we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n to_o the_o world_n and_o to_o angel_n and_o man_n angelis_n laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la hominibus_fw-la laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la 38._o say_v saint_n augustine_n to_o good_a angel_n praise_v we_o to_o evil_a angel_n dispraise_v we_o to_o good_a man_n commend_v we_o and_o to_o wicked_a man_n condemn_v and_o deride_v us._n the_o consequence_n of_o this_o argument_n we_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n therefore_o angel_n understand_v and_o see_v our_o thought_n be_v childish_a for_o as_o saint_n paul_n be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n so_o he_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o jesuite_n will_v blush_v to_o argue_v hence_o ergo_fw-la good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n behold_v the_o heart_n second_o as_o saint_n paul_n say_v i_o testify_v before_o god_n and_o the_o elect_a angel_n so_o moses_n say_v i_o call_v this_o day_n heaven_n and_o earth_n witness_n deuteron_n 4._o 26._o &_o 32._o 1._o and_o isaiah_n say_v hear_v oh_o heaven_n and_o hearken_v oh_o earth_n chap._n 1._o v._n 2._o every_o creature_n therefore_o which_o god_n call_v to_o witness_v or_o adjure_v man_n by_o be_v not_o a_o fearcher_n and_o beholder_n of_o the_o thought_n and_o affection_n of_o the_o heart_n jesuit_fw-la but_o as_o the_o same_o scripture_n aver_v the_o saint_n be_v like_a 112._o unto_o the_o angel_n and_o equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o in_o heaven_n the_o same_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o a_o man_n and_o of_o a_o angel_n ergo_fw-la knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n answer_n matth._n 22._o 30._o our_o saviour_n say_v that_o in_o the_o resurrection_n neither_o shall_v they_o marry_v nor_o be_v marry_v but_o be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n in_o heaven_n luke_n 20._o 36._o they_o which_o shall_v be_v count_v worthy_a of_o that_o world_n and_o the_o resurrection_n from_o the_o dead_a neither_o marry_v nor_o take_v wife_n neither_o can_v they_o die_v any_o more_o for_o they_o be_v equal_a to_o angel_n and_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n see_v they_o be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o resurrection_n in_o these_o word_n first_o the_o subject_n be_v just_a people_n at_o the_o resurrection_n second_o concern_v these_o our_o saviour_n affirm_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o marry_v etc._n etc._n three_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o angel_n and_o equal_a to_o angel_n four_o he_o express_v wherein_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o to_o wit_n first_o in_o freedom_n from_o secular_a action_n and_o passion_n second_o in_o glorious_a adoption_n or_o real_a possession_n of_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n now_o i_o admire_v what_o papist_n can_v extort_v from_o hence_o ib._n for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a to_o wit_n just_a man_n at_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v live_v as_o angel_n remote_a from_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o worldly_a life_n and_o they_o 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