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A15130 The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall. Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604. 1574 (1574) STC 25430; ESTC S122027 1,252,474 846

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