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A49979 News of a trumpet sounding in the wilderness, or, The Quakers antient testimony revived, examined and compared with itself, and also with their new doctrine whereby the ignorant may learn wisdom, and the wise advance in their understandings / collected with diligence, and carefully cited from their antient and later writings, and recommended to the serious reading and consideration of all enquiring Christians, by Daniel Leeds. Leeds, Daniel, 1652-1720. 1697 (1697) Wing L914; ESTC R11241 77,230 166

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themselves scarce any sooner mounted into the Seat of Government but they fell to persecuting one another till Providence stopt them by the Government being taken from them Therefore they being a considerable People for Number in some places the King and Parliament had great Reason to make that Law which was made last year That no Quaker or reputed Quaker shall serve on any Juries or bear any Office or place of Profit in the Government Thus though they may see what their ill Manners 〈◊〉 Pennsilvania has brought on them yet on the other hand they may take it as a blessing unto them they being a People not qualified for Government especially in respect of Principles antiently delivered for when T. Budd declared the Duty of Magistrates in his Book called Good Order c. p. 34. viz. I do believe it to be both lawful and expe●tent saith he to bring Offenders to Justice by the Power of the Magistrates Sword which is not to be used in vain c Hear how G. Fox condemns him for this in a Letter to Pennsilvania which Letter I have by me to shew upon occasion his words are these Dear Friends R Fretwell and A. Cook Remember me to T. Budd and tell him he gave forth a Book which grieves the honest hearted and some dirty Spirits have got advantage and how that it Thwarts our antient Principles that part concerning Magistracy p. 34. it w●● laid upon W. Penn but he is clear of it And he did not do well to print it and spread it for Friends here will not sell it but stopt it let him write over h●to●r for Friends to call it in again So with my lo●e G. Fox Yet such miserable Darkness has over-spread those Quakers at Delaware that they see not their Apostacy herein Nor indeed how should they seing the Yearly Meeting at London did not find ●●●roper or sit to condemn these Practices nor to pu● the Actors upon condemning it No not so much as that of their giving a Commission and hiring men for a hundred Pound and furnishing them with Arms and Ammunition to recover a Sloop that Babit and his Men had stole from Philadelphia harbour tho' it was an Action to the furthest extent that those words in T. Budds ●ook could reach as all that reads the same may see Hence 't is plain that the whole body in general are now so far Apostatized herein that they encourage their Brethren to grieve the honest hearted give dirty Spirits advantage and thwart their antient Principles unless they will say G. F. is a Lyar whom they call The Father of many Nation see W. P 's Rejoynder p 354. But to shew further of my old Friends Apostacy in this particlar R. Barclay in his Apology p. 399. 407 says As to what relates to the Magistrates of the Christian World albeit we deny them not the Name of Christians because of the publick Profession they make of Christs Name yet we may boldly affirm that they are far from the perfection of Christian Religion because of the state in which they are they have not come to the pure Dispensation of the Gospel But for such whom Christ hath brought hither it is not lawful to defend themselves by Arms but ought over all to trust in the Lord. Thus this Doctrine of R. B. runs almost parrallel with that of W. P. before cited only he unchristians the whole Body of his ●riends concerned in Government but R. b 's sentence is only on the Magistrates of which let those that are Preachers look to it and study the most effectual means to keep their Hearers from reading such things as these so dangerous for their discovery Come on my old Friends yet a little further I wish you were as willing to see your Apostacy as I am to shew you Read your Antient Principle of disallowing to go to Law and being no Contenders Patronized by G. F. G. W. and E. Rur in p. 23. of R. Huberthorns Works Priests says Many Differences may arise which cannot well be decided without going to Law R H. Replys Thou dost allow of going to Law which the Apostle did not and he was a Minister of Christ and here thou hast shewed thou art none and who are come to the Doctrine of Christ whi●h his Yea and Nay there is NO DIFFERENCE Th●y need NO GOING TO LAW there is NO CONTENTION and many Differences are in thy Generation which is without Christ and his Doctrine which many of you See men at the Law And here openly I charge you all in the presence of the living God to be no Ministers of Christ O when will you blush for calling all but your selves No Ministers of Christ no Professors of Truth All that joyn not with you or believe not as you believe you say do not own Truth or profess Truth But I appeal to Gods Witness in all your Consciences whether this Priest was not a better Owner of Truth or Professor of Truth than you for his Doctrine and Practice agrees but your Doctrine is one and your Practice another contrary to Truth double minded men Therefore condemn your antient false Doctrine in your Book called The Quakers Challenge p. 3. viz. The Quakers are in the Truth and NONE but they And O learn to be more Charitable CHAP. X. Friends Sufferings to be recorded by London Meeting FRIENDS THis is in some sense to answer your Request for I have met with some Papers sent from your Meeting at London wherein you frequently call for all Friends Sufferings to be sent in to be recorded Therefore I shall here set down the Sufferings of some Friends about Delaware called seperate Quakers and request your care that when you meet with this Account together with the aforesaid Imprisonments c. to Record the same as you do others if you are impartial men but if not pray let them alone In the Year 1695. A. Smith W. Budd and W. Atkinson in West Jarsey for constientiously refusing to serve on Jurys were fined by the Court for which a Gun was taken from A.S. and a slitch of Bacon from W. B. But by the Sheriffs pleading for VV. A. being poor he got his Fine remitted Note This Sheriff is a Baptist and he deemed the Office of Sheriff and refused to serve rather than so to take away his Neighbours goods for matter of Conscience but these Seperates have not met with so much Christianity in any of their old Friends that have been so concerned in Office Pray let your London Meeting take Notice of that and order those Ministers that come from you to visit them to do what they can to recommend the Virtue of Love to your Brethren here for all that have hitherto come has set them still more in Opposition against the Seperates and have increased Envy instead of Love and are so far from counting the Seperates to be any of the lost Sheep of the House of Israel whom Christs Ministers should seek after
that they call them Amaleck exhort one another to smite Amaleck and yet like Cowards never come at them or like Cocks crowing on their own Dunghills they do it only in their own Meeting-houses among their own Friends and he that 's most ingenuous at comparing G. Keith and his Friends to the worst of Men and Devils they can find named in the whole Bible he 's an excellent Preacher and followed from Meeting to Meeting many Miles and of this Truth my own Eyes and Ears are witness In the years 1694 95. Ralph Ward a poor Friend at Philadelphia was several times fined for conscientiously refusing to serve on Juries and had Goods taken from him to the value of 4 l. 6 d of which he complained to the Governour and Council but had no Relief The Members of Council present were S. Carpenter S. Richardson A. Morris C. Pusey D. Lloyd all Quakers At a Court at Burlington 3d Mo. 1697. Daniel Bacon was fined 10 s. by Quaker Justices only for refusing to serve on a Jury tho' he pleaded both Liberty of Conscience and the Law lately made in England which says No Quaker or reputed Quaker shall serve on any Jury nor bear any Office of Profit in the Government Now here take Notice The Quakers in England used to plead with the Rulers against the Kings Laws for Liberty of Conscience But now being got into the Saddle of Government and being Rulers themselves they deny Liberty of Conscience to others that plead FOR the Kings Laws for Liberty of Conscience Let my old Friends at London consider that and whether 't is not Time now to cry out as Sam. Fisher once did p. 144. O Gross Horrid Hideous and Sordid Also several Friends in East and West-Jersey had Goods taken from them for not answering sumons to Courts also for refusing to pay a Tax raised to pay Souldiers wages Where Note the Quakers in East-Jersey who were in Unity with their persecuting Brethren at Philidelphia paid this Tax either directly or indirectly which was to pay Souldiers wages I shall give no perticular account of these distresses be●leving the rest are more than you wi●l Record but I cannot well omit to instance one more and leave it and the rest to your Consideration And that is John Wood one of your Brethren a Preacher in Gloucester County in West-Jersey being Sheriff of that County came with men armed to take Goods from John Roberts at Pensoaken sent two me● b●fore who pretended they had lost their way of which the said Joh. Roberts his Wife took pity and gave them meat to eat Soon after they espied Wood coming with his Company wherefore Roberts made fast the Door but Wood told him he had those within that would do his business they seeing him so treacherous opened the Door this Wood when came in offered his hand Roberts said if he came as a Friend it was well But said Wood I come not as John Wood the Preacher but as the Sheriff of Gloucester Now by the way observe that in the case between G. R. the Magistrates at Philadelphia those Magistrates could not find how to distinguish between Magistrates Quakers or Preachers but here you see their Brother J. W. had the art to do it But this J. VVood proceeded and took several so●s of Goods in use in the house among which was a Warming pan which the woman earnestly desired him to leave by reason of the great use themselves and the Nighbours had of it in case of Sickness or Child-bed there being none there about except that But she could not prevail with this VVood but away he carried it and soon after this Roberts fell sick and beginning to Recover again he sate up one day but at night going to his Cold Bed for want of the p●n to warm it being Winter the cold Bed made such impression on him that his speech was soon taken away which he did not recover again but dyed in a few days and what trouble this was to the Widdow the Neighbours can tell how much she imputed the death of her Husband to the want of the pan which she could not perswade this Wood to leave tho' she offered him to take any other thing instead of it Note the occasion of this Distress was only for not answering a Summons to Gloucester Court when the Court at Barlington required the same the place having been some years in contest between the wo Counties about the bounds not decided which County it belonged to Come you London Friends to say no more of the Inhumanity of this Action of a Preaching Quaker can you parrellel this in the whole Worl● that ever a pre●ended Gospel Minister took the Office of sheriff before W. Penn cites plenty of old Authors in most of his Books pray set him to search all the Rusty Authors to see if he can find a President and if he can find none you may Record this for one if you please for the said Roberts was an honest Friend of your Society and I being w●●h him in his sick●ess that very day that he sat up as aforesaid he desired me to publish this Preachers Action to the World and so far have I now fullfilled the Will of the deceased as also the Desire of his Widdow and Neighbours since his Death Now perhaps some for want of other Falsity to accuse me of will say I Taunt or Scoff But what would such say if I should use such Airy Expressions as that eminent Friend Sam. Fisher has done in his Rusticus ad Accademic 〈…〉 viz. As the Fool thinketh so the Clock Clinketh The Cat winkt when both her Eyes were shut The Wheel-barrow runs Rumble to Rumble A Tale of a Tub with the bottom out Tittles Tattle Twittle Twattle Whirle-gigs Flim-flams Gim-cracks Hog-styes Bumble-bee Propositions Magpye Premises Roaring Meggs Thunde●ing Canons to frighten poor fools c. This was Sam. Fishers phrase in writing Religious matters and re-printe● for Posterity by the lisence of the 2d Days Meeting in London And W. Penn in his Testimony before that Book makes the Scriptures their Rule for this stuff too and cites 1 Kings 18.27 of Elijah's words to Baal's Priests Thus I see how far I should be Justified were of their Society Though the same W P. with his t'other Tongue is so far from owning the Scriptures for their Rule that both he and S. Fisher as is before shewed would make them unfit for any Rule at all in any case by rendering them Vncertain c. Therefore pray ask W. P. by what Rule he knows any such word were spoke as recorded 1 Kings 18. seeing h● holds the Scriptures so Uncertain Doubtless he is as able to give an answer as if he had served seven years at Rome as G. W. tells the Baptists in his Quakers plainness p. 31. CHAP XI Of Swearing IN W Penn's Book called Reason against Railing p. 41. the Question is thus put How could you know