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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65920	A reply to the answer of Lieutenant General Ludlow, or, His answer to the officers at Dublin examined with a concluding word to the present authoritie in Parliament / by E.W.	E. W., an actor in the late change in Ireland.	1660 (1660)	Wing W20; ESTC R26298	9,914	20

reason therefore they had to own him your Substitute having defected who was made privy to much of the Design some weeks before it was executed he being next in Command But Sir Hardress served a single persons interest whilest he might Answ. He did no more then the Generals at Sea who all ingaged for the service of their Countrey under the Command of a single person who I suppose you do but equally asperse But Sir Hardress with others subscribed a Letter to the Army in England and bid them good speed in their undertakings Answ. In that Letter the Army of Scotland was equally and jointly concern'd and included and therefore that Salute which is rather your own fiction then any thing in realitie is to be equally shared between both But Sir Hardress cleerly espoused the Armies interest and cast off the Parliaments by the Letter sent to General Monk Answ. The Letter mentioned was prepared by Iones and brought in for Subscriptions rather by way of surprize then debate And though his policy did subscribe to a complyance where his opposition would have made him obnoxious yet the honesty of his policy did quickly appear Object But that excuse may as well serve the rest of the Subscribers as Sir Hardress and may justifie all that joyn'd with the Army for they will all say they did it out of Policy Answ. Had they taken an opportunity in season to have oppos'd the Army as he did the excuse would be sufficient but that they did not In the next place you say You did not own the Army in their late precipitate undertaking nor acted with them otherwise then in a military capacity but refused to joyn in their Committee of safety or Committee for Nomination Answ. 'T is true you did not so own them I believe as to contrive the plot for setting up the Army as Legislators as neither did the Army of Ireland or the Officers that you say were for the interest of a single person contrive his setting up but you could honestly submit after it was done as they did nay you could joyn with them in the same work of New Government-making I wonder from hence-forth you should condemn others for that wherein you are ten times more guilty in another kind and equally in the same kind with themselves as before proved But you acted with them only in a military Capacity Answ. Had Cromwell or Fairfax gone to the King at Oxford and joyned or acted with them in a military capacity would this have served for an excuse to the Parliament or not rather as an aggravation to endanger their not being welcome when they should return to sit at Westminster as you have done But what you did as to Government or Reformation was alwayes with an intention to submit the same to this Parliaments Iudgement Answ. A sorry excuse you think is better then none But 1. Who knew your Intentions 2. Who knew the Parliament would ever sit again 3. You have here coin'd an excuse such a one as 't is for those that were for a single person for might not they say they were for him only with an intention to submit it to this Parliament when they sate You say in Page the eighth The Officers design is to make Mole-hills Mountains to asperse and not justifie and therefore they quarrell with the title of Dear friend written to Jones Answ. They cite those words for this end to let you know what cause they had to be jealous that you who were a friend to their enemy could be no good friend to them had such a Title been written by any member of this house to Inchequin after his Revolt it had been enough to have made the whole house jealous that such a member was no good friend to them notwithstanding the pretence of private real friendship But what you did therein you say was prudential he having your sword in his hands Answ. That is you called him friend till you could appear his enemy as Sir Hardresse called General Monk Enemy till he could appear his friend The difference lies only in this Sir Hardresse made hast to do the one when you delaied to do the other The next clause you say that is aggravated against you is That we seem to be necessitated to look towards the long Parliament it is feared if they come in without conditions they will be very high To which whether you have given a sufficient Answer let the world judge for who knew your Intentions to escape or the way by Miniard as you say in your Letter or who can believe it that shall consider what you say afterwards That when Fleetwood heard Dublin had declared for the Parliament he sent you away The gloss by which you would evade this charge if I should appeal to your self is such that you will not allow to others viz. You writ so to Iones out of policie to let him see it was his prudence as well as his dutie Not to do any thing in opposition to the Parliaments Authoritie or to your self who was invested therewith Answ. He was like to do but little either against the Parliament or your self when before your going out of London you heard he was imprisoned for the mischief he had done was before of which you had notice by several private letters And had you went according to the invitations in those letters you had been most affectionately received whereas your mition from their enemie was reason to the contrarie The last clause in your Letter you say the Officers have to object against you is this I hope ere this the Commissions for setting of civil Iustice on the wheels are come to your hands At which you wonder it should be imputed as a crime to you by those who were free that the Administration of civil Justice should be derived from a military hand during the Protectors Reign 'T is therefore to be feared you say they rather dislike the persons then the thing it self Answ. The Imputation of it as a crime to you was because the Authority of that Sword that pul'd out the Parliament was thereby justified when yet you would have the world to belive you were pleading against the Army to bring them in and if it were alwaies your principle to oppose the swords Authority why was it not in this the truth is your words may here be justly retorted That you dislike persons and not things for you can make use of it as a discriminating Act against all that submitted to it in a single person and yet you can find Arguments to plead for it when it relates to the Army But you say 'T is the Lawyers opinion That whosoever is actually in power may set the wheels of Iustice going Answ. But the Army in England had nothing to do with Ireland nor could they be in actual power when there was a ballancing power in General Monk that opposed them And if the Army in Ireland should have argued thus to set

their Wheels of Justice going no doubt but you would have had better grounds for those reports you have raised then yet you had I wish it may be prevented by a timely a consideration of their sufferings Necessity is lawless But you seem much to rejoyce that you have so just a Bar to appeal unto as that of the Parliaments who you doubt not but will protect you against the malicious prosecution of any Cavilerish spirit whatsoever Answ. In this you would insinuate the Subscribers to be Cavileers and therefore they may equally rejoyce with you as well for their own sakes as for yours they have that power to appeal to now sitting for whose restitution they have so freely adventured their All 2. I will not say 't is as strange to see how you interfere in your Principles who can now own them as a Parliament when not long since you told some of themselves you did not look upon them as a Parliament but as a Company of honest Gentlemen that met there for the good of their Countrey and upon that accompt you joyn'd with them In concluding of the Paragraph page 10. you say If to be fai●hfull and constant to the Parliament in opposition to a single person King-ship c. If to bear witnesse against such as are disaffected to publick interest or as are vicious in their lives and conversations c. be high Treason you then confesse your self guilty Answ. If that were all I should say the same with you But stay Sir there is somewhat else Is it fidelity to this Parliament for a General of Ireland to come from thence and sit in the Counsels of their enemies would this have been judg'd so had any Member of the house or General of their Army gone to sit with the Kings Counsels as I said before in Oxford Nay have not the house already determined it in their Sentencing of Sir Henry Vane and Major Sallaway Is it fidelity to the Parliament to be ingaged as one of the chief to settle a new foundation of Government for these Nations Is this to bear your witness against such as are disaffected to the Parliaments Interest Who were ever against the Parliament if such be not that shall presume to pull out their Masters and make null their Lawes and yet with such you could joyne whether this be the substance of the Articles or all that is to be said I will not determine But certainly if these things are not Treason they are highly criminal For to make the best of it can any rational man think that 't is a sufficient plea for a General of an Army to quit his duty as a General to run to the enemies Counsels to intreat them to let their Masters sit again You tell them again in Page 11. Of your intentions to 〈◊〉 thorow into Ireland in order to compose the difference there Answ. But why were not your intentions put in practise till within two dayes of the Parliaments sitting can any man judge your intentions to be real when your Actions were contrary Had you been made a Prisoner for endeavouring to escape the Army in Ireland would have unanimously declared for you But it seems there was no such danger for in the same pag. you say You had laboured with the Lord Fleetwood that you might repair to your charge above a moneth or five weeks before he sent you an ill sign your intentions were real for to use your own words in the same page had that power any longer prevail'd you had staid longer with them I am sure nothing less can be imply'd But you say Fleetwood having received a letter from Captain Algat that Ireland had declared for the Parliament he then thought it necessary you should repair to your charge Answ. It seems you were one of those soldiers that was under Authority when you were bid stay you stai'd and when you were bid go you went And is this to shew your fidelity to the Parliament of which you so much boast that you would not adventure some hazards to get from their enemies Or who will not say The Army of Ireland had sufficient cause to conclude That if you had been a friend to the Parliament you had been clapt up in London and not sent away with a Mandamus by Fleetwood In page 12. you say your brother Kempsons name was set to the Declaration contrary to his minde because he did not like the company Answ. The latter I easily believe because he found no whimsical persons amongst them But I assure you the former is not true for he ordered the Clerk to set his name after some contest had been about the words our Lieutenant General But you say you looked upon it as your dutie to hasten into Ireland because many persons that had subscribed the Declaration were of a contrary principle thereto and adhered to another interest namely that of a single person Answ. But suppose they had been such are your principles so rigid and imposing which you yet condemn in others as you will never admit of repentance 2. But why more hast now then good speed had your haste been so hastie you would have hasted over before to have hindred that revolt that was made from the Parliament but it seems there was no danger on that side for if the Work were done as you declared at Connaway you did not care by what Instruments so it might not be by a single person In the same page to answer the Officers you tell them that before you left London you took your leave of the Speaker and left the Addresse of the Officers with him which declar'd their hearty affections to this Parliament and their resolution to stand by them to which very few of the Subscribers hearts or hands then were Answ. No doubt your going to the Speaker at that time was your wisdome but certainly there would have appeared more integritie had you gone sooner or else have published the Addresse in Print as soon as you came to London but when it might have done good you could keep it in obscurity and then discover it when be sure it was of no advantage 't is well their fidelitie was better made knowne by their own Actions then by yours The Designe of the Subscribers you say is now laid open by their imprisoning many persons that did declare for the Parliament though not with them Answ. Friendship is best known in time of straights at such a season the Army in Ireland generally shewed their fidelitie whereas several now under restraint declar'd not till forc'd to it and the rest had publickly defected from the very beginning but the world may see by this who you judge to be the Parliaments best friends In the next you say it is now out of doubt they are for the King because the moderatest of that party have publickly declar'd for Sir George Booth's design Answ. There is much fraud in a general charge why do you not come