Selected quad for the lemma: friend_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
friend_n	best_a	great_a	think_v	890	5	3.7818	3	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A91879	The falsehood of Mr. VVilliam Pryn's Truth triumphing, in the antiquity of popish princes and Parliaments. To which, he attributes a sole, sovereigne, legislative, coercive power in all matters of religion; discovered to be full of absurdities, contradictions, sacriledge, and to make more in favour of Rome and Antichrist, than all the bookes and pamphlets which were ever published, whether by papall or episcopall prelates, or parisites, since the reformation. With twelve queries, eight whereof visit Mr. Pryn the second time, because they could not be satisfied at the first.	Robinson, Henry, 1605?-1664?	1645 (1645)	Wing R1672; Thomason E273_16; Thomason E282_11; ESTC R200048	28,156	36

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sufficient_a to_o authorise_v believer_n for_o choose_v church_n commissioner_n who_o may_v afterward_o oblige_v they_o and_o their_o conscience_n by_o whatsoever_o decree_n shall_v be_v by_o they_o agree_v upon_o without_o examine_v it_o themselves_o but_o say_v he_o a_o representative_a church_n be_v a_o assembly_n of_o presbyter_n choose_v by_o the_o multitude_n who_o have_v receive_v ecclesiastical_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n from_o christ_n do_v watch_n over_o the_o church_n and_o govern_v it_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n to_o he_o therefore_o or_o mr._n pryn_n that_o quote_v he_o i_o shall_v desire_v to_o make_v these_o follow_a query_n the_o truth_n be_v apollonius_n acknowledge_v the_o presbytery_n to_o be_v the_o representative_a church_n but_o deny_v the_o mean_n without_o which_o i_o never_o yet_o know_v it_o pretend_v so_o much_o as_o possible_a to_o be_v constitute_v first_o he_o say_v multitudo_fw-la fidelium_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la potestatem_fw-la regendi_fw-la &_o jurisdictione_n spirituali_fw-la negotia_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la dijudicandi_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la jure_fw-la dei_fw-la proinde_fw-la eam_fw-la senioribus_fw-la &_o presbyteris_fw-la delegare_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la hoc_fw-la sensu_fw-la igitur_fw-la