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A letter concerning invocations of saints, and adoration of the cross writ ten years since, to John Evelyn of Depthford, esq. / by Dr. Barlow ...
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Barlow, Thomas, 1607-1691.
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A LETTER CONCERNING Invocation of Saints AND ADORATION OF THE CROSS Writ Ten Years since to JOHN EVELYN of DEPTHFORD Esq By D r Barlow then Provost of Q. Colledge and now Lord Bishop of LINCOLN PSAL. LXV 2. O Thou that hearest Prayer unto thee shall all flesh come LONDON Printed by John Macock for John Martyn at the sign of the Bell in S t Paul's Church-yard MDCLXXIX My honoured Friend WHen I had the happiness to see you at our Act you were pleased to shew me a Passage of a Sermon of S t Cyril 's in Binius and ask me whether it might not be a good Argument for the Popish Invocation of Saints I told you then upon a sleight perusal of the Passage that I conceived it was no ground of any Argument for Invocation of Saints I perceive since by your Letter to Mr. Walker that you desire me to give a Reason why I think so and seeing your desires are and ever shall be a Command to me I do without any excuse or Apologie obey I know my disability to give a just Reason of this particular or any thing else but seeing you require it and out of your charity think I can I will think so too Cur me posse negem quod tu posse putes I have hereby sent you a tedious and I fear an impertinent scrible You know I have a great many little businesses to do and at this time so many that I had scarce time to review much less to transcribe what I have writ But I dare and do trust you with all my Infirmities well knowing that you have as well goodness enough to pardon as judgement to find my faults If you communicate my Papers to him who urged the Passage in Cyril for Invocation of Saints or any Papist else per me licet you have my free leave only conceal my name and if any of them will or can shew me pertinently and in short that I have err'd in the particular of Cyril's Sermon or in the other things I have said against their Invocation of Saints they will do an Act of great Charity to me for which I will heartily thank God and them As to the Passage in Cyril it seems to me evident beyond dispute that 't is only a figurative speech an usual Apostrophe and no Prayer and for their Doctrine and Practice of Invocation of Saints 't is a Novel and Impious Error and Superstition He who thinks otherwise and can give me any concluding Argument for it Either 1. A lumine Naturae from the Principles of Natural Reason common to all Mankind Or 2. A lumine Scripturae from Divine Revelation comprehended in the sacred Scriptures Or 3. A Traditione Universali from the Belief and Practice of the Primitive Church especially and so downward I say he who can give me a cogent Reason from any one of these Topiques nor is there any other medium in the world will do it shall have me his Proselyte Otherwise 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 It is now towards twelve a clock and I more than half asleep as you may guess by this rude scrible and therefore my Respects remember'd pray pardon SIR Your Affectionate Friend and for a thousand Civilities thankfull Servant Q. Col. Oxon. Sept. 28. M DC LXIX Tho. Barlow The place in Cyril before mention'd urged by a Popish Priest for the Invocation of Saints Cyril of Alexandria in an Homily before the Council of Ephesus on S t John's day and in a Church Dedicated to his Name having cited those words Heb. 1. 6. When he bringeth in the first-begotten into the World he saith Let all the Angels of God worship him And having asked who that was and how he came into the world He adds a Extat locus apud Binium Concil Tom. 2. p. 548 549. Edit Paris Anno 1636. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. Mysterium hoc aperi O Evangelista effare etiam nunc O beate Johannes qui voces habes immortales Ecce tantus his pastorum coetus ad te venit remove nobis lapidem sicut beatus Jacob pastoribus resera nobis puteum vitae da ut nunc quoque de salutis fontibus hauriamus c. COncerning this Passage the Querie is Whether Quest. it be not a plain and evident Passage to prove that irrational and most Apocryphal piece of Popery The Invocation of Saints In answer to this Querie though utterly unworthy Answ. of any serious Answer I shall crave your pardon and leave to say 1. That I acknowledge this Homily to be S t Cyril's 2. That although there are faults both in the Greek and the Latin version which might easily have been amended by the MSS. or better Greek a Vid. Acta Oecumen Synodi 3. Ephesi habitae Heidelberg 1591. Graecè p. 216. Copies extant in print yet I do not think that the Text as in other parts of Binius I know it is has been datâ operâ and willingly any way corrupted and so I shall take it as it is granting it to be Cyril's and not corrupted and let them make the best of it 3. That I wonder any knowing person should seriously cite a passage so insignificant and altogether impertinent which carries no shadow of proof of that for which it is produced Sure I am Binius who diligently observes and urgeth whatever may advantage the Catholick Cause as they commonly miscall it takes no notice of this passage of Cyril as appears by his b In calce Part. 3. Concil Ephesini Tom. 2. p. 665 c. Notes in which he hath nothing of it which he would not have omitted had he conceived it a pertinent proof of the Romish Invocation of Saints Nor does c Bellarm. de Sanctor Beatitud lib. 1. cap. 19. Bellarmine Hen. d Hen. Vicus Tit. 24. de Sanct. Invocatione pag. 342 343. Vicus Gabriel e Vasquez lib. 1. De Adoratione Disput. 5. cap 2. Vasquez Gregorius f Valentia Disput. 6. Quaest. 2. De Oratione Puncto 7. Tom. 3. pag. 1261. de Valentia or any I have yet met with though possibly others may make use of this passage of Cyril to prove Invocation of Saints when and where they do ex professo and datâ operâ diligently quote all the Councils and Fathers they can to prove that point 4. It is well known to all to whom Rhetorique and Theologie are not unknown that there is a vast difference between a figurative and a proper phrase and form of speech between a Rhetorical Apostrophe and a Theologicall Prayer And that such Rhetorical and figurative expressions are very usual in all Authors Sacred or Civil especially in Poets and Orators is certain and on all sides confess'd For instance 1. An Apostrophe they say is g Vid. Eustath ad 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Homeri pag. 453. l. 11. Romae 1542. Quintil. Institut Orat. lib. 9. cap. 2. Figura cùm à Judice vel Auditore ad absentem aliquem