Selected quad for the lemma: friend_n
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A31198
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The case of usury further debated, in a letter to the author of usury stated.
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T. P.
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1684
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Wing C1192; ESTC R213538
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calvin_n though_o he_o say_v it_o be_v to_o be_v wish_v that_o all_o usury_n yea_o the_o very_a name_n of_o it_o be_v banish_v out_o of_o the_o world_n and_o that_o he_o desire_v nothing_o more_o than_o never_o to_o have_v any_o further_a occasion_n offer_v he_o to_o meddle_v with_o that_o subject_a which_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o in_o his_o own_o word_n optandum_fw-la quidem_fw-la esset_fw-la omnes_fw-la vsuras_fw-la ipsumque_fw-la adeò_fw-la nomen_fw-la è_fw-la mundo_fw-la jampridem_fw-la exulâsse_fw-la ut_fw-la nihil_fw-la magis_fw-la exoptem_fw-la quà m_fw-la ut_fw-la mihi_fw-la necessitas_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la argumentum_fw-la istud_fw-la deinceps_fw-la attingere_fw-la and_o in_o his_o harmony_n upon_o the_o pentateuch_n certè_fw-la minimè_fw-la videtur_fw-la licitum_fw-la filiis_fw-la dei_fw-la quod_fw-la prophaâ—i_fw-la quoque_fw-la homines_fw-la detestati_fw-la siâ—nt_fw-la simus_n ubique_fw-la &_o semper_fw-la exosum_fw-la &_o infame_v fuisse_fw-la faerneratorum_fw-la 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sepultum_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o deletum_fw-la ex_fw-la hominum_fw-la memoriâ_fw-la dr._n hammond_n you_o have_v frequent_o quote_v and_o particular_o his_o practical_a catechism_n and_o yet_o he_o there_o say_v that_o the_o business_n of_o usury_n be_v not_o so_o clear_o state_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n or_o in_o the_o old_a as_o that_o he_o can_v set_v strict_a and_o certain_a law_n to_o a_o man_n action_n from_o thence_o he_o do_v indeed_o rather_o incline_v to_o think_v it_o lawful_a with_o this_o caution_n among_o other_o that_o he_o who_o lend_v be_v as_o far_o as_o moral_o he_o can_v be_v sure_a that_o he_o who_o pay_v he_o this_o use_n be_v able_a to_o do_v it_o without_o eat_v out_o or_o hurt_v himself_o but_o that_o he_o make_v great_a gain_n of_o it_o himself_o and_o if_o either_o by_o mis-adventure_n or_o by_o his_o own_o neglect_v it_o be_v otherwise_o it_o be_v the_o safe_a course_n to_o forbear_v the_o interest_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n it_o be_v 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lawfulness_n of_o it_o i_o shall_v conclude_v my_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n with_o the_o word_n of_o that_o great_a and_o know_a casuist_n bishop_n sanderson_n in_o his_o sermon_n on_o 1_o cor._n 7.24_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a usurer_n shall_v be_v so_o bitter_o inveigh_v against_o by_o sober_a heathen_a writer_n so_o severe_o censure_v by_o the_o civil_a and_o canon_n law_n so_o uniform_o condemn_v by_o godly_a father_n and_o council_n so_o universal_o hate_v by_o all_o man_n of_o all_o sort_n and_o in_o all_o age_n and_o country_n as_o history_n and_o experience_n manifest_v they_o ever_o have_v be_v and_o be_v if_o their_o practice_n and_o call_v have_v be_v any_o way_n profitable_a and_o not_o indeed_o every_o way_n hurtful_a and_o incommodious_a both_o to_o private_a man_n and_o public_a society_n your_o six_o argument_n be_v that_o it_o be_v but_o do_v as_o you_o will_v be_v do_v by_o and_o yet_o you_o grant_v pag._n 98._o that_o he_o who_o lend_v to_o another_o if_o 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