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A95027 Something in answer to two late malitious libels of William Rogers; intituled, the sixth and eighth part of his (falsly so called) Christian-Quaker, &c. : Being a further caution to Friends, to take heed of that treacherous spirit that is entered into William Rogers and his abettors. : Who under the profession of primitive truth, are betraying it to the world ... / Published for the clearing of truth against William Rogers's lies and slanders ... C.T. Taylor, Christopher, ca. 1615-1686.; Rogers, William, d. ca. 1709. Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator. Part 6.; Rogers, William, d. ca. 1709. Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator. Part 8. 1682 (1682) Wing T265; ESTC R184889 30,402 42

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Gods Great Mercy was to the honour of God and good Caution to others Neither were they Printed but sent amongst Friends and thy own Company who are gone into Enmity and so become Enemies This is no Parallel to the Printing and Spreading thy Wicked Book with Ham's Spirit to the dishonour of God and grief of his good People rendring them Apostates and Innovators c. belying them and so telling and publishing thy slanders as in Gath and Askelon to the gladding the hearts of the Uncircumcised and so manifesting thy own shame in going about to slander such as God hath Clothed c. And my Book stands still a Witness and a Testimony upon thy head and those that encouraged thee against your foul Spirit And is there none come off in Wilts and Bristol since the 20th of the Sixth Month 1675. I say is there none come off from J. Story J. Wilkinson and W. Rogers Yes surely Let Wilts and Bristol speak whether none there have come off from them and testified against their foul Spirit And W. R. unjustly compares J. Wilkinson and his false Prophecy with Samuel the Prophet against Saul which he thinks should be a Warning to G. F. and others to hearken to J. W 's false Prophecy We have taken Warning but it is concerning thine J. Story 's and J. W's Spirit and do warn others to reject his false Spirit and Prophecy which if we should have believed then we might have Repented of it as some have done And so W. Rogers's and J. Wilkinson's own party is broken to pieces as the Certificates aforesaid manifest and Gods People are setled and established upon the Rock of Christ Jesus and by the Certificate that followeth you may Read J. Wilkinson's Apostacy how he kept not his first Habitation And was not J. Story and is not W. Rogers of the same Spirit with him A Certificate FRom William Gandie in Relation of some words in discourse between him and J. Wilkinson at William Gandies house some Years Past concerning the Persecution that was made by the late Act against Conventicles and how liable such as I to wit William Gandie who had a meeting twice in the Week at my house were liable to suffer because the Informers did know certainly where to find us but said J. Wilkinson to me we have taken a Course in Westmorland to prevent the informers for having their Prey upon us for we appoint our Meetings in Private places as Gills and Cloughs where we think they cannot find us Then I asked J. Wilkinson how they did appoint their meetings whether Publickly c. And J. W. said no privately one to the other And then how such Friends should know who might not be acquainted or not be at the meeting And J. W. answered they kept some one on a Hill as a Boy to give such Friends Notice by signes as by the Hat or some such like signes whither they might repair to the Meeting And further J. W. advised me to put the Meeting at my house to meet under a great Oake that stands before my door in the Lane or Kings high way which would prevent them of Twenty Pounds due for my fine c. This is as near as I can remember the Words that passed betwixt us Now I have often heard that William Rogers was about to Print but I hoped they would not have been so very Wicked thus to shew their Enmity but they will have their Reward So in this Day we may Bless the Lord that we have heen preserved from that Spirit in our Countie William Gandie Cheshire the 9th of the 2d Month 1681. W. R. says Part 8. Pag 14. Not one Iota of an Order approved by G. F s Party can be Dispensed with to maintain the Ancient fellowship of the People called Quakers Answer But W. R. hath not shewed wherein nor what all these Orders are nor our Ancient fellowship This is but his empty Clamour like the Rest And Part 8 Pag. 13. W. R. saith whether such of G. F 's party as declare Dis-union with another Person on the meer foot of that other Persons Conscientious refusal to propose the Intention of his Marriage to a Meeting of Women Distinct from Men be not a Badge of Apostacy c. Answer This W. R. would insinuate but hath proved nothing with his dark queries nor named these other Persons who do Conscentiously refuse And pag. 15. he speaks of his Declarations of the Ancient Brethren c. exalting Christ over all in Male and Female the hope of Glory c. And why should not Christ in the Female as well as the Male or why should not faithful Women have a sight into the Marriages in the Covenant of God And how can any Person Conscientiously refuse or deny it And is not W. R. so high and lofty that he and his followers do scorn to lay a Marriage before Christ in the Female as well as in the Male or before the faithful Women as well as the men though in their Meetings they may be Distinct or apart from the men as absent in the Body present in the Spirit one with another That so W. R. hath n t yet prov'd Seperation For some of J. Wilkinsons Party have called the Womens-Meetings an Idol I am a Witness of it Part 6. Page 4. W. R. speaking of Opposers Recriminating Reflections c. saith it hath been one motive among others Occasioning me once more to appear in Print and one part of my End therein is that some short Discovery may be made of the ways and means by which some simple-minded have heen betrayed c. And he further speaking of the Second Days Meeting in London saith These few Lines shall remain on Record to the Infamy and shame of such as have approved the aforesaid Books or Papers Answer W. R. This shame and infamy will remain upon Record against thy self and thine Adherents And must not these thou calls simple insnared betrayed Friends pin their faith on thy sleeve to unbetray them But who the simple betrayed Friends are what they are betray'd in and what our Recriminating Reflections are thou hast not here named And W. R. Thou sayst Part 8 Page 11. The sense I have of the snare attending many through Conformity to other mens Lines made ready to their hands in blind Obedience c. Answers But who are those that are Conformable to other Mens Lines made ready to their hands and where are the Lines they are Comformable unto Why hast thou not Printed them all or must I pin my faith on thy sleeve in this also But what W. R. who appearest in Print for the simple and betrayed is not the Grace of God within and the Light of Christ sufficient by which all must be kept to their own to see Christ their Saviour that they need not look at thy Lines made ready to their hands which instead of undeceiving them will deceive them the more And as for the Second