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A34085 A scholastical history of the primitive and general use of liturgies in the Christian church together with an answer to Mr. Dav. Clarkson's late discourse concerning liturgies / by Tho. Comber ... Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1690 (1690) Wing C5492; ESTC R18748 285,343 650

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109._o testimony_n d●s●_n of_o litu●g_v p._n 38._o &_o pag._n 73._o pag._n 7●_n &_o pag._n 109._o wherefore_o i_o shall_v answer_v it_o full_o and_o first_o it_o do_v not_o well_o become_v our_o adversary_n who_o give_v such_o odious_a name_n to_o those_o who_o cite_v any_o spurious_a write_n to_o lay_v such_o mighty_a stress_n upon_o a_o tract_n which_o he_o himself_o suspect_v to_o be_v none_o of_o s._n basils_n work_n 110._o work_n ibid_fw-la p._n 110._o and_o which_o all_o those_o author_n who_o he_o cite_v to_o prove_v his_o liturgy_n to_o be_v forge_v do_v general_o reject_v as_o a_o forge_v piece_n 110._o piece_n era●m_fw-la praes_fw-la ad_fw-la svam_fw-la ve●s_fw-la istius_fw-la libri_fw-la loci_fw-la censura_fw-la p._n 121._o rive●i_fw-fr censur_fw-fr p._n 305._o scultet_fw-la medul_a pag._n 1054._o ush_n e_fw-la &_o dailè_fw-la in_o isto_fw-la authore_fw-la pag._n 110._o it_o be_v no_o great_a proof_n of_o his_o own_o sincerity_n to_o fetch_v his_o top_v argument_n and_o urge_v it_o over_o and_o over_o till_o the_o repetition_n become_v nauseous_a out_o of_o a_o tract_n that_o he_o believe_v to_o be_v suspicious_a at_o least_o but_o second_o i_o will_v take_v no_o advantage_n from_o hence_o for_o after_o all_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o deny_v the_o piece_n to_o be_v genuine_a but_o let_v it_o be_v as_o he_o please_v it_o make_v nothing_o for_o his_o purpose_n for_o s._n basil_n do_v not_o affirm_v that_o these_o eucharistical_a prayer_n be_v not_o write_v in_o his_o time_n but_o that_o they_o be_v derive_v from_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n now_o this_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o ancient_o they_o be_v form_n because_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o a_o extempore_o prayer_n that_o be_v to_o be_v daily_o or_o often_o vary_v to_o be_v convey_v down_o from_o our_o forefather_n by_o tradition_n whatever_o be_v so_o deliver_v must_v be_v a_o form_n of_o word_n either_o write_v or_o learn_v by_o heart_n and_o so_o teach_v by_o the_o elder_a to_o the_o young_a priest_n wherefore_o even_o in_o this_o sense_n these_o additional_a prayer_n in_o the_o sacramental_a administration_n be_v form_n make_v by_o the_o most_o primitive_a father_n and_o teach_v to_o their_o successor_n and_o so_o convey_v down_o by_o oral_a tradition_n but_o three_o this_o be_v his_o fallacious_a pervert_n of_o s._n basils_n word_n and_o not_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o they_o for_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unwritten_a tradition_n here_o speak_v of_o by_o s._n basil_n be_v not_o thing_n which_o never_o be_v write_v down_o by_o the_o father_n as_o he_o false_o pretend_v because_o both_o he_o and_o divers_a of_o the_o ancient_n have_v write_v about_o many_o of_o the_o rite_n and_o usage_n which_o he_o there_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unwrirten_v tradition_n a_o hundred_o time_n as_o for_o instance_n about_o the_o hour_n of_o prayer_n turn_v to_o the_o east_n when_o they_o pray_v and_o about_o the_o preface_v before_o the_o eucharist_n etc._n etc._n but_o s._n basil_n only_o say_v these_o thing_n be_v not_o write_v in_o scripture_n they_o be_v not_o enjoin_v there_o those_o saint_n or_o holy_a man_n viz._n the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n have_v not_o leave_v order_n in_o scripture_n for_o these_o rite_n and_o form_n which_o must_v be_v his_o meaning_n because_o he_o go_v on_o and_o say_v we_o be_v not_o content_a with_o that_o which_o be_v record_v in_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o gospel_n that_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n there_o be_v form_n of_o prayer_n and_o praise_n before_o and_o after_o in_o the_o sacrament_n deliver_v down_o from_o the_o primitive_a father_n which_o he_o do_v not_o say_v be_v never_o write_v down_o by_o they_o but_o be_v not_o write_v in_o scripture_n for_o s._n basil_n call_v the_o scripture_n by_o