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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A20216	An answeare to the supplication Against him, who seeming to giue the King counsel to become a Catholike, indeuoureth to stirre vp his good subiectes vnto rebellion. Faithfully translated out of French by E.A.	Aggas, Edward.	1591 (1591)	STC 664; ESTC S115374	30,730	40

slightly may haue turned his coate You thinke they will not do it if you thinke so euen in common sense you are deceiued Or you imagine that albeit they should so do yet their Sermons woulde be of too small effect with the people to turne away this their new vow and deuotion that you assure the king of But I am of a contrary opinion Thus you sée vs of contrarie mindes and vpon this contrariety of hopes and opinions would you haue the king hazard his person and state You may say If I were king I would and I wil answere for him That if he had made the Supplication now in question peraduenture he would do it but being K. he must looke well that he do it not My good friend I vnderstand but one Lattin word Tanti poenitere non emam and I thinke it were good for the kings seruice that he should remember it in French If the king agreeing to your opinion by this his new beléefe had lost all his beléefes of his antient seruants that haue wyth him borne the quarrell as taking it to be Gods quarrell And the princes that fauoured him for the communion of their religion rather then of their callings should growe luke warme in his behalfe And on the other side if the rebels should perseuere in their rage into what disorder or rather dispaire should you bring his affaires He should finde himselfe lurched ere he were aware and you shall prooue but a bad warrant for your counsell Neither your parchment nor your appeale as of abuse to be briefe all the petyfoggeries of France woulde not suffice to warrant him His ennemies haue a newe production I say weapons the which conioyned wyth I wot not what coloured title which the strongest do neuer want when the question concerneth a kingdome they will easily by the meanes thereof winne their cause For as for the consistory of Rome which in such affaires is of some waight in the ballance as being composed of sundry lordes who through their long experience do ordinarily conioyne religion with the state and neuer diuide humane wisedome from holines it wil alwaies incline to the strongest But is not this the parte of a very Scholler in State matters to wish that a prince should alter his religion vpon a vaine conceipt thereby to winne the hearts of those whome he would conquere If your Machiauell nowe liued who taught you that a king ought to be of like religion as his subiects he would tell you that a wise prince neuer made so vnclarkly a step as to alter his religion so long as he stood vpon the conquest But hauing atchieued all his enterprises hee should then consult with his friends whether it were good for him to embrace his subiects religion to the ende the better to like them You and such as be like your selfe doe relie onely vpon the catholike religion of the French kings namely for that king Clouis altered his Paganisme into Christianitie which in those daies was dispersed ouer all the Galles Let vs rest vppon this example which may be a good guide to leade vs in the path that we are to passe Did this great king for I account him for the greatest that euer raigned in France without exception either of Charlemaine or of Philip the conquerour become a christian-so long as he stoode vpon his conquests or did he it without any ceremony No verely For when he was to receiue the sacrament of Baptisme it was performed with such dignity by his great counseller S. Remy that afterward the posterity conuerted al the ceremonies thereat obserued into miracles Besides be abandoned not his heathen religion to stoupe to oures vntill he had fréed his estate from the bondage of the Romanes subdued the Bur●uinion who occupied part of our Galles chased the Visigot that possessed the country of Septimany since called Languedoc into Spaine and through the great battell of Tolbiac brought vnder his obedience al Germany whereby Theodorike king of Italy became a suter vnto him 〈◊〉 which performed he receiued Christendome yet can I not hereupon inferre that for all this he became a state Christian but thus much is certaine that he vsed this discretion at his new purpose that he turned not from his religion vntill he found him selfe to haue the vpper hand I will vse your owne examples you say that the Macedonians abated I wot not how much of their ancient deuotion to their king Alexander because he attired himselfe after the Persian maner This story will I faithfully and at large rehearse as greatly seruing my turne but not yours So long as Alexander was busied about the conquest of Asia he forbare to vse either the habite or customes of the kings of Persia But hauing once conquered it imagining that hée wanted no more for the accomplishement of his victories but the conquest of the hearts of his new subiects whose Country which he had subdued was in extent fiue or sixe times as great as all Macedonia he had recourse vnto the pollicie we speake of He tooke both the attire and diademe of the kinges of Persia and from thenceforth beganne to cause himselfe to be adored by such as came to salute him A matter vnaccustomed among the Grecians yet such as made the conquered so pliable to his obedience that he kept them in peace so long as he liued Hereupon a certaine philosopher or rather a Scholler named Calisthenes who measured a mightie kings imaginations by his owne began to murmure among the souldiours shewing them that it was the way to bury the Grecian liberty in the bondage of the Persians in the conquest whereof they had borne a great parte and portion with Alexander and if néede had so required had he thought vpon it he would haue exhibited a like Supplication as yours wherby to bring Alexanders behauiors into mislike These complaints passing from mouth to mouth among the Macedonians was like to haue stirred vp a great sedition Whereupon the king put the schoolemaister to death not vpon any iniurious wrath as some foolish Historiographers haue written but to the end to stoppe th● fluxe of this new commotion and withal to make him an example to the posteritie against such as licentiously abusing their tongues or pennes before they haue serued their apprentisage in state affaires doe in their studies meddle with controuling the actions of their king among his people and subiects This example haue I set you downe to two endes The first to shew you that a soueraigne prince ought neuer to alter his fashions maners or religion for the contentation of a people before he hath gotten the maistery ouer them The other to let you vnderstand that we are not so easily or openly to controll the behauiours of our kings especially in matters concerning the estate For not to penetrate into the botome of their thoughts and yet to publish against them such spéeches or diffamatory libels as may moue their subiectes to reuolt is

take breath Then is the king slaine by a Monke which was one chéese péece of seruice of the holy vnion the preachers in their pulpits exclaimed that that Prince was of no religion Oh very God if they thought him such a one this I speake by the way why did they choose a monke to execute so wretched a purpose vnles they were assured that vnder that habit the murderer might without difficulty haue accesse to this poore princes closot They then imagined that by this vnexpected death all the affaires of the realme woulde chaunge countenance also that the king of Na. vpon hatred to his religion should be abandoned of al men howbeit against this cursed counsell GOD otherwise prouided for the valiant bloud of the French Nobility did wholly vowe it selfe to our natural and lawfull king And as by the death of the D. of Guise al the leaguers gaue ouer their quarell against these of the new religion to set themselues against their king so vppon this second murder executed on the person of our late king all the French Nobilitie forgetting their mallice against the same religion aymed onely at reuenge of this death against the Leaguers hauing neuerthelesse first sworne the king to enter into our religion if once he were well instructed therein Thus our king by two deaths whereto he neuer consented the one of his mortall enemy the other of his greatest friend attained the Crowne and at a time appoynted came before the head city of France which had professed greatest hatred against him enuironed with all the Princes of the bloud officers of the crowne and as braue an army as hath of late béene séene in France Whom is he now to thanke for so many blessings First God onely next his enemies whom God made the principall instruments for al that is aforesaid as being more beholding to them then euer he was to all his seruants and friends for had they without wakening his weapons by anticipation of time suffered him to haue liued close and quiet as he did in an out-corner of France at the length both his minde and weapons had béene ouergrowen with rust but they forced him to stand vppon his defence wherby at one instant of an apprentise they made him a persite maister He who otherwise had beene vndone had not his enemies sought his vndoing for as well his religion as the small knowledge that we had had of his maners woulde not easily haue suffered vs to fauour him after the late kings decease But he hath this gift that so soone as we do but smel him he maketh euery one to loue honour and regarde him yea euen his very enemies Moreouer where could he haue found the passages ouer the riuers open to haue come to Paris Where should he haue found such an army To be short he is indebted both of his crowne and forces to those who by all worldly pollicies sought to bring him into misery Yea he is so indebted albeit he brought no more with him but a stedfast hope that he hath in his great God I doe here omit his victory at Diepe his entry into the suburbs of Paris which doth counteruaile the best Towne in Fraunce where God to the ende euen to leade him by the hand dispersed a thicke mist to blinde the Paristans eyes I will also leaue his Conquestes which after this he obtained in the middest of winter in the Countries of Vendosme Mayenne and almost all Normandie his two victories that he had in one day at Yurie and in Auuergne the shamefull retraict of the D. of Parma his glorious recouery of Corbeil with the turning of a hand where this great beater downe of walles had soiourned fiue weekes with eighteene canons before he could take it and finally that which of late memorie chanced miraculously in the towne of S. Denis for I haue not vndertaken this to trace you an history To what then is al this for now it is time for me to end this argument Peraduenture to turne the king from abandoning his religion wherein he hath receiued so many fauours at Gods hand I would not wish you so thinke for I haue done it onely to shew to al Macheuelists that God rather assisteth princes of whatsoeuer christian profession when in al their aduersities they call vpon him with their whole heartes and repose their whole confidence in him then such as saining themselues to be Catholikes haue no religion in their soules and do referre their stay to the pollicie that they gather out of the visard of religion Let vs therefore blot out of our papers that that you seek to teach the king that is that so long as he was simply king of Nauarre he might vse the new religion but being king of France he must play an other part as if his soule that was then king of Nauarre were other then his that is nowe king of France Let vs not therefore desire him to become a Catholike by groping and march onely in darkenesse Now do I come to my catholike in religion such a one as I wish our king to be Now that he may so be I thinke there be three things requisit first to make him capable next to poure forth our praiers to GOD for that end and lastly that we be penitent To make him capable he must of necessity be instructed I say instructed not by Ministers as you do falsely presuppose he will but by a generall or nationall counsell I tell you againe he must for so haue we agreed in the middest of his army and we may not shrincke from our consent sith it is euident that the fault is not in him that he performeth not his promise Are you eyther wiser or honester then all these great princes and lordes that were of that opinion that now you should propound an other Yea admit we had not consented yet were it his part to feele him selfe and not finding himselfe strong enough to embrace it without being taught our petition were wretched and wicked if we should intreat him to the conerary Yet thinke not that I would wish this instruction to consist onely in words our Bishops Abbots and other prelates of the church must bring example Our L. Iesus Christ to winne the Iewes hearts began first by well doing and afterward he taught The first point requisite in an aduocate to perswade his Iudges is honesty the rest of his arte is but eloquence and the more he vse it the more wary the iudge is specially if he mistrust the speaker Therefore to perswade our K. let vs ioine the word and the effect Why I pray you haue we not prepared him matter sufficient to desire to be instructed There was neuer church with great griefe I must say it more rent then ours I will not speake of the abuses A matter that almost no religion can dispense withall the reason because no religion can be exercised without outward ceremonies to make the peoples hearts intentiue And it