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A48453 As you were, or, The Lord General Cromwel and the grand officers of the armie their remembrancer wherein as in a glass they may see the faces of their soules spotted with apostacy, ambitious breach of promise, and hocus-pocus-juggleing with the honest soldiers and the rest of the free-people of England : to the end that haveing seene their deformed and fearfull visage, they may be returning to doe their first pretended workes, wipe of their spots, mend their deformities & regaine their lost credit : in a word, save themselves and the gaspeing libertyes of the surprized and enslaved English nation : least enlargement and deliverance arise to the English from another place, but they and their fathers house shall be destroyed : Ester 4. and 14. : all which is contained in a letter directed to the Lord Generall Cromwel, to be communicated to the grandees of his army / written by L. Colonel John Libvrne May 1652 ... Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657. 1652 (1652) Wing L2084; ESTC R1524 49,801 36

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other end but to be his foote-steps to climbe up to the top of absolute and arbitrary Power pretended Authority or unlimited unbounded Kingship And that you my Lord particularly are the man that is guiltie of all this in my judgement and apprehension your owne quondam darling „ and heart-indeared heart secret-knowing Freind the Major of your owne Regiment of Horse Robert Huntington „ in his printed impeachment of you delivered to both house of Parliament against you the 2 of August 1648 hath punctually declared it which impeachment is reprinted in the 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 pages of that Booke for makeing of which I was arraigned for a Traitor at Guildhall October 1649 being intituled An Impeachment of high-Treason against Oliver Cromwell c. and for which Impeachment of his I could never heare that you endeavoured so much as publicly to question him therfore or to put forth a vindication against it Which may well get beleife in un-biased men that you acknowledge all that he hath there said against you to be true And as much as I have said of him and his Impeachment may be said of the Authors of those thre notable bookes and of the bookes themselves called PUTNEY-PROIECTS The LEVELLERS vindicated being the stated case of the late TREACHEROUSLY defeated BVRFORD troopes and the HVE-AND-CRIE of the young men apprentises of London after the lost fundamentall laws liberties of England Vnto which three bookes a great many mens names are set as the avowers justifiers of them and to my knowledge the most of their names are true for I particularly know the most of the men my selfe yet I could never heare that any one of them was so much as questioned for decyfering you there as they have done Although to my knowledge you know some of the men as well as I doe and might severall times since those bookes were writ published as easily have laid your hands upon them to have called them to an account therefore as I can take up the pen inke that I write here with I say laying the forementioned Bookes or discourses together with what followes in this discourse page 13 14 15 to 24 compareing them with your practise I thinke they sufficiently prove you to be the man above mentioned that walks by the Principles of ATHEISME MACHIAVELLSME and holds it lawful to doe any thing in the world that comes in your way that will most serve your turne for the accomplishment of your owne ends be they never so bloodie wicked or tyrannicall But MY LORD you have forced me when I was quiet to come upon the stage againe much against my will and studious indeavours And yet when I did I fairely sought peace with you and sent you in writeing my propositions for peace grounded only upon your owne promises neglecting to insist upon any thing of concernement to my selfe and gave you or your true Freind Mr. William Kiffen to whom I sent it twentie one dayes to returne me an answer at least of his receit thereof all which appeares in the following discourse page 29 30 31. But heareing nothing at all from him and feareing that it is intecepted I am forced to print it The Copie whereof with some small additions thus followeth For my loveing Freind Mr. WILLIAM KIFFIN merchant at his House in Dukes-place London these with hast post hast to be communicated to his Excellency the Lord Generall Cromwell c. Mr. KIFFIN YOu and I have bin long acquainted ād have had much converse together although you were in my late troubles before my triall at GVILD-HALL my adversary in print yet not lookeing upon you by your opposition as a man that out of malice designedly laboured to take away my life but rather at a man surprised in your understanding and thereby induced to beleive the plausible arguments of my pretended Religious adversaries as though by my contest with them an undeniable gap was opened to let in them that are commonly called the public adversaries to devoure all and so were against the then season as unfit and dangerous in your apprehension but not against the things themselves held forth by me and my Camerades which you judged just and righteous and sit to be established in due time when that feare was over In which regard that opposition of yours to me I judged most fit to be buryed in the grave and not with any disgust of mind to be remembred And therfore it is that of late some part of that former familiarity that was betwixt us hath bin renewed and since my banishment I find by several Letters from my wife that you have bin very civil and respectfull to her for which I returne you many AND MY HE ARTIEST thankes ONE OF HER LETTERS dated the 2. of Feb last I have answered in print and caused that answer to be published here as well in DVTCH as ENGLISH which I hope before the date herof is reprinted at London againe since which I have received two Letters more from her the maine substance of both of which are to presume with all the mournfull arguments that possibly thee can use to be quiet and to abstaine from printing and Withall she tells me it is the advice of all my Freindes in generall who come continually to her to gather to write to me about it But haveing in my aforesaid printed Epistle given her undeniable reasons WHY I AM COMPELLED TO PRINT which I hope with my former Letters to her will so qualifie and season her Spirit that I may presume now that both my feares are over which were first that I was afraid through sorrow about me and her owne distressed condition as she calls it the should either miscarry of her childe or else secondly that she should be overwhelmed with greife and so her burthen should become too heavie for her to beare But hopeing that both of these dangers are over I must now confess unto you that that little trouble which used formerly to accompany me thorough the hopes hereof is as good as at an end And therfore to you shall I judge it convenient for me and 1 hope no way mischevous to your selfe to answer freindly and resolutely some other clauses in her latter Letters and some clauses in other Letters of some of my Freindes which I have lately received and then positively to tell you without deceit or flattery my future resolutions by the assistance of God on purpose because I know you are great with the GENERALL and I thinke with the NOW LORD-DEPVTY OF YRELAND LAMBERT but I am sure of it with LENTENANT-GENERALL FLEETWOOD and MAIOR-GENERALL HARRISON that you may shew this Letter unto them all being the great sword men of England that so they may lay their heads together obout it if they please and then let God worke his pleasure In a large Letter to my wise of the 13 of February last I told her and
to judge It s also true I am now banished by the GENERALL HIS MEANES and the public pretended grounds and reasons therof are contained in the Parliaments printed Narrative and Act passed against me recorded in the 49 50 51 62 63 pages of my late Apoligy to the people of the netherlands and I am sure of it in both of them they lay no crime at all in Law unto my charge as I have allready fully proved in my said printed Apologie to the people of the Netherlands page 65 66 67. But if the GENERALL OR ANY OTHER FOR HIM have any thing in imagination feare or supposition to lay to my charge let him or them stand up and say their utmost I crave no favour at their hands but yet I appeale to your Conscience how just it is to disfranchise a man of all his birthrights and bannish him forever out of his native Contrie for things they feare he will act against them It s confest the GENERALL must now needs have something to say for himselfe against me as well as his or HASILRIGGS AGENTS in times by-past had who a little before my tryall at GUILDHALL Octob. 1649 in their printed Bookes against me clothed me in beares and Wolves skins that so the people as their doggs might worry me without compassion or consideration And therfore it was that they printed me to be an Atheist a denier of God and the Scripture given up to all licentiousnes and an absolute confederate with Prince Charles to set up his absolute will prerogative in the English Nation All or any of which things they them selves knew to be as true as the sea burnt But read my Answer thereto Printed at the Latter end of the first part of my tryall at Guildhall page 158 159. It s also true my old Freind Mr. CORNELIUS HOLLAND a little before my second tryall averred to my wife that at the Counsel of State they had Letters of mine under mine owne hand written to the Prince and the LORD BRADSHAW did the same to some eminent Freinds of mine but when I bid defiance to them and challenged them to produce them they were not albe to doe it and it proved no more then some of Mr. THOMAS SCOTS ROTTEN AND POCKIE LIES It s also true that when I was tried for my life at GVILDHALL and confidently and justly alleadged for my selfe that by the two statutes of the first of Edward the sixt Chapter the 12 and the 5 and 6 of Edward the 6 Chapter the 11 still in force there ought to bee two direct plaine evidences or witnesses to prove every fact of treason alleadged against me Yet those two worthles and bloody fellowes ATTORNY GENERALL PRIDEAUX and the LORD KEEBLE could and did falsely and lieingly not haveing the least graine of the feare of God or common-honesty or shame before their eyes averre that there was a statute made after them in the 1 and 2 of Q. Mary that overthrew and abolished those two forementioned statutes of Edward the 6 and that now one witnes to prove the treason alleaged against me was sufficient to take away my life and this they averred againe and againe unto the jurie upon their reputations to be true after that I had often before the Jury and all the populous auditory that then was present to their faces told them it was false and untrue and that there was no such law made in Queen Maries time and holding the statute booke in mine hand I challenged them againe and againe to name the Chapter that it might be read the which they could not doe and yet like most bloodie and false men they would have taken away my life by their lies if I had not understood the Law as well as themselves and had not had CONFIDENCE ENOUGH TO HAVE TOLD THEM THEY LIED TO THEIR FACES before the jury and all that great auditorie of People all which you may fully read at large in the first part of the booke of my triall page 124 125 141 142 143 147. Now I say laying all these things together and considering that these three base unworthy men are still as great with the Generall as ever they were I doe not wonder if he have relations enough at his fingers end to make me odious But upon what foundation or bottome they should be grounded seeing mine owne Conscience is clare and innocent I cannot imagine unless it be something in relation to that averment of Mr. REYNOLDS the sollicitor Generall who lately at a Committee of Parliament as by a Letter from London I am informed openly averred I held correspondency with the Scottish King but whether he charged it upon me as done by me before my banishment or since the letter doth not declare And therfore at present I can answer it but by Guess and say I beleive my adversaries have some pangs of Conscience in them For I am confident the wickedest and most seared Atheist or machiavel or doer of despight unto the Spirit of grace in the World is not totally without them that now and them pricks them as it did profane Esau who for one morsell of meat sold his birth-right and afterward when he would have inherited the blessing was rejected and found no place of repentance though he sought it carefully with teares Heb 12 17. the same may be said of wicked Cain and cursed Iudas for that injustice which they have done unto me in banishing me without a Cause and thereby as much as in them lies not only destroying of me but also of my poore wife and harmeles babes Which crueltie of theirs it may be either flies in their faces for if wee sinn willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth there remaines no more sacrifice for sin but a certaine fearfull lookeing for of judgment and fiery indignation which shall devoure the adversaries and it is a fearfull and dreadfull thing to fall in wrath into the hands of the liveing God Heb. 10.26 27 31. Or they feare may be much resented and laid to heart as I know it is by the People of England of all sorts who in time it may be may make some of them smart for their unjust and barbarous dealeing with me For saith the present Lord cheife Justice St. John in his Argument of late against the Earle of Strafford printed and published by the speciall order of the house of Commons in the year 1641 pag. 43 he that would not have others to have law why should he have any himselfe why should not that be done to him that his selfe would have done to others It 's true saith he we give law to hares and deers because they be beasts of chase it was never accounted either cruelty or foule play to knock foxes and wolves on the head as they can be found because these be beasts of pray And it is a righteous and just thing both in the sight of God and man to measure unto them
now with comfort and rejoiceing tell you that I bless God that I have this testimony in mine owne Conscience that the Cause for mannageing of which I am bannished did at the first and all along to this very houre doth appeare to my understanding judgement upon the strictest scrutinie betwixt God and mine owne soule that I am able to make to be as righteous and as just a cause as ever was in the World and all so however Mr. HILL THE CHAIR-MAN reported it to the house yet Mr. PRIMATES PETITION was as fully proved before him and the Committee of Parliament in every circumstance of it so far as its capable of proofe saveing that single clause of SIR ARTHVR HASILRIGS holding private correspondence with some of the Commissioners as any puition in the world need to be proved but it was no wonder it went as it did when SIR ARTHVR HASILRIG WITH Mr. HIL THE CHAIRMAN WITHOVT A THIRD MAN DREW VP THE GREATEST PART OF THE REPORT IN THE SPEAKERS CHAMBER WHILE THE HOVSE WAS SITTING as one that tooke them at it told we with his owne tongue Which report we were never permitted to see nor none for us nor to heare red although we earnestly intreated for it and by importunity endeavoured it And besides I am confident of it there was not three men that judged the cause in the House that ever at the Committee were constant hearers of it from the beginning to the end And by what I have heard from Parliament men that were at the Committee severall daies Mr. HILL NEVER REPORTED TO THE HOVSE ONE TENTH PART OF OVR EVIDENCES AS WEE LAID THEM DOWNE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND THE SAID Mr. HILL WAS OPENLY IN THE HOVSE TAXED WITH SEVERALL MATERIALL OMISSIONS BY A PERSON OR PERSONS THAT HEARD NOT ONE HALFE OF IT AT THE COMMITTEE And besides when the GENERALL HIMSELFE set his shoulders to the worke with all the might he had in the World to have the sentence so pass and goe on it is unimaginable it could goe otherwise then it did for one THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH HIM AND THAT WISHETH ME WELL TOLD ME IT WAS IN THE GENERALLS HOVSE BY HIM AND A CABAL OF PARLIAMENT MEN AGREED OF TWO OR THREE DAIES BEFORE IT WAS VOTED OR DECLARED IN THE PARLIAMENT And some dayes after it was passed the GENERALL HIMSELFE IN THE OPEN HOVSE as one that heard him told me IN ASPEECH OF HIS DID AVERR AND DECLARE VPON HIS CONSCIENCE THAT THE SENTENCE IT SELFE PASSED AGAINST ME WAS AS HONEST AND AS JVST A SENTENCE AS WAS EVER PASSED BY THAT HOVSE But I doubt not through the assistance of God in a short time to make it clearly and evidently to appeare in every circumstance that it is the MOST VNJVST ILLEGAL AND VNRIGHTEOVS SENTENCE THAT EVER WAS passed by any authority or power in the World that ever professed to governe by Lawe As in abundance of their declarations they have professed before God and the World they ought and would doe But at the present I shall only trouble you with one instance and that in a short Declaration of theirs intitled a Declaration of the Parliament of England for maintainning the fundamental Lawes of this Nation dated Feb. 9. 1648. made by them since they tooke of the Kings head declaredly for Tyrannie Oppression and and exerciseing an Arbitrary power in which they positively declare that they are fully resolved to maintaine shall will uphold preserve and keepe the fundamentale Lawes of this Nation for and concerning the preservation of the lives properties and Liberties of the people with all things incident thereunto with the alterations touching Kings and House of Lords allready resolved in this present Parliament for the good of the People Which short declaration of theirs is fully backed by them with a larger delaration made the 17 of March after And although there be an absolute necessity that lies upon me as speedily as I can to goe to the press with such a thing yet in what I write or print by the assistance of God all mighty I shall keepe within the bounds of a Christian THAT VALVES HIS PEACE WITH GOD ABOVE ALL EARTHLY TREASVRES IN THE WORLD and of a rationall man THAT HATH PRINCIPLES OF FREEDOME AND JVSTICE INGRAFTED IN HIM THAT HE WILL NOT BALKE OR CHANGE FOR ALL THE FEARES OF ALL THE DEATHS IN THE EARTH and of an English-man THAT LOVES HIS NATIVE COVNTRIE ABOVE ALL OTHER COVNTRIES IN THE WORLD and in a great measure hath the sense of his duty in acting towards its Freedome and wellfare INGRAVEN VPON HIS VERY HEART and as a discreet man THAT WILL NOT MEDDLE WITH THE NATIONS AFFAIRES OR GOVERNMENT WHERE HE SOIOURNES OR DOE ANY THING TO THE UTMOST OF HIS POWER THAT MAY GIVE THE LEAST DISCONTENT TO THOSE MAGISTRATES UNDER WHOSE PROTECTION IN HIS BANNISHMENT HE LIVES And besides I bless God I have both publicly and privately walked in all peace quietues and uprigtnes towards the General and Parliament since I owned their authority and neither directly nor indirestly medled with them to give them the least offence or to occasion in them the least cause of jealousy of me for undermineing or endeavouring to undermine their power and authority and therfore can I the more glorie and rejoyce under their harsh and cruell dealeing with me BUT THE LORD IS RIGHTOUS AND I AM CONFIDENT WILL SPEEDILY RETURNE IT SEVENFOLD INTO THE BOSOMES of those who were the principal causers of it Judges 1 6 7 and 2 Sam 21 1 2 5 6 14 and 2 Sam 12 31 compared with the 11 of Judges 17 18 19 20 23 27 Ester 7 9 10 and 8 11. and 9 2 3 4 5 15. Isaiah 10 12 13 18. Mat 7 2. Marke 4 24. Luke 6 37 38. Rom 2 3. James 2 12. Revelations 18 6 7 8. But to returne back by my wives Letters I perceive the LORD GENERALL gives a verie unworthy and strange kind of character of me which seemes to worke beleife upon the Spirits of some of my Freinds and further saith that I may thinke my sentence greater then my offence if they did not feare other things by me of which also it seemes some of my Freinds are satisfied In Answer to all which I say its true upon the 28 of March 1649 the present Lord Generall caused me to be fetched out of my bed by a multitude of armed horse and foote and got me sent to the tower for a traitor yet when I came to my triall for my life there was never any thing of that laid unto my charge for which at first I was imprisoned but only actions pretended to be done by me many moneths after my imprisonment when I lay under so many barbarous provocations put upon me by the Generall and his confederates AS HAD BIN SVFFICIENT according to Solomons saying TO MAKE A WISE MAN MAD. But how just it was to goe about to take away my life upon that score I leave you