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A77490 The unlavvfulnesse and danger of limited episcopacie· VVhereunto is subioyned a short reply to the modest advertiser and calme examinator of that treatise. As also the question of episcopacie discussed from Scripture and fathers. / By Robert Bailly pastor of Killwunning in Scotland. Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. 1641 (1641) Wing B470; Thomason E174_4; ESTC R11030 25,095 50

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THE VNLAVVFVLNESSE and danger of LIMITED EPISCOPACIE VVhereunto is subioyned a short reply to the Modest advertiser and calme examinator of that Treatise AS ALSO The Question of Episcopacie discussed from Scripture and Fathers BY Robert Bailly Pastor of Killwunning in Scotland LONDON Printed for Thomas Vnderhill at the Bible in Woodstreet 1641. To the equitable Reader SOme moneths ago there came out from a learned and very judicious hand a small treatise to prove the unlawfulnesse and danger of limited Prelacy Shortly there after there appeared in answer to this a modest Advertisement and calme Examination which was sent enclosed in a letter from a Bishop of prime place to a Stationer for the press written whether by the Bishop himselfe or a friend of his acquaintance a Doctor of good esteeme I do not know Some very few days after the first appearance of this answer the reply following was readie albeit till now it could not get the benefit of a presse I confesse the Reply is not sutable to the great worth of the first Treatise but if it do sufficiently retund with cleere reason all that the Answerer has opposed it attains its end of this performance be thou the judge unto thy discretion I freely permit the pronouncing of the sentence I could wish from thy hands but one not very unreasonable favour that thou mightst be pleased to call for compare all the three Writs which are al but short that thou wouldst lay together in every passage first what the Authour did say Secondly what the Bishop or Doctor does answer and thirdly what is here replied This little labour will enable thee from due consideration to make they equitable decree in the court of thy conscience according to which thou mayst cheerfully proceed first to thy hearty desires thereafter as thy calling permits to thy best endevours either for the holding up or pulling down this much agitate estate of Bishops Farewell A Reply Unto the modest advertisement and calme examination of the unlawfulnesse and danger of limited EPISCOPACIE AMong the multitude of rare novelties It is much to see that Prelaticall faction modest and calme which of late have bin seen Wee must take it for one not the least that Episcopall men have so far in writing changed their stile as to meet their greatest adversaries and extreame opposites with no more then modest advertisements and calme examinations God and the Parliament must be thanked that men may now dispute and discourse upon Miters without the hazard of starving in a close prison after the losse of eares and stigmatizing of cheeks upon the pillory Who yesterday did rage like Lyons to day take upon them the skin of the meekest lambs * This modesty is not sincere If with the outside the inward parts be truelie metamorphosed a short time after the rising of this Honourable Court will declare For the present they must pardon the worlds misbelief of their total change while in the art of dissembling they are yet so imperfect as to let appeare at the lands foot their old Leonine paw for besides that in the middest of your modestie you cannot forbeare the old Common place of calumnious railing against the verie well deserving Saints of God Calvin and Knox as usurpers of greater authority over their brethren then any Bishop did ever in your knowledge assume in England a Pag. 6. for my own part I should be sorry to see any Bishop in this land have such authority over other Ministers as Calvin had in Geneva or Knox in Scotland Your very party whom you professe to rencounter with nothing but calmenes and moderation is traduced openly by you without any cause as a bloudie man as one who for the obteining of his conclusion the overthrow of Bishops threatens the shedding not of vulgar blood but that of Princes of their whol families and no lesse then the ruine of Kingdomes You make him a Turkish Dervise b P. 12. As for other arguments that if wee admit not the Presbytery there will be jealousies between us Scotland that there will be changes and periods of States of Families and Kingdomes for these are insinuate in this booke and some are reported to have said that the Bishops must down or much bloud will be shed These we think not proofs but threatnings and fitter for the mouth of a Turkish Dervish who plants Religion by the sword then for a Minister of the Gospel of Christ rather then a Preacher of the Gospel c Pap. 18. I shall desire the Authour to remember that there may be as much ambition in Corah as in Aaron and as much pride in refusing to be governed as in desiring to govern and to consider whether these two speeches are very unlike that of his Pag 15 Is there none in the assembly fit to bee President but one and this of Corabs Numb 16. the Congregation is all holy wherefore then lift yee up your selves above the Congregation of the Lord. an ambitious Corah a very Devill changed in an Angell of light d Isid And for the light whereof hee speaks pag. 7. we desire him not to bee too consident but rather that he will remember that of the Apostle that Satan sometimes changes himselfe into an Angell of light and causes that to be reverenced as an illumination which many times is but an illusion his arguments not onely to bee false but Satanick illusions Behold this is the calmnesse of your examination the meekenesse and moderation of your advertisement The greatest part of your professed vertue Wherein their meeknesse doth consist we find to consist in a key-coldnes and well nigh mute-silence when the hotest and most pungent arguments approch your skin Heere it is indeed where the meeknes of your spirit and unwillingnesse to strive doth most appeare for you are ever sure when any pressing reason is brought either altogether to let it go as if you were stone-deafe or if you take courage to contradict your answers are so evidently impertinent or triviall and weak that we might doubt whether this your opposition were made in earnest or meerly for fashion unlesse we did see it in the conclusion offered unto the grave eie of the high Court of Parliament before which no wise Man will adventure of purpose to trifle Who so misdoubts the equity of this our sharpe censure let him be onely pleased to fight with his own eies both the writs comparing part with part and every Argument with its answere readily after this labour hee will subscribe my Sentence To facilitate the paines of any who are desirous to undertake this travell I am content to go before in the way The Authours Preface To the Preface nothing is answered at all though short yet full of nervous considerations it is your wisdome to passe by without one syllable of examination After the Preface And to the first principle nothing pertinent the Treatise it selfe begins with