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A65796 Mr. Blacklovv's reply to Dr. Layburn's pamphlet against him White, Thomas, 1593-1676. 1660 (1660) Wing W1836A; ESTC R219979 25,125 33

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Mr. Blacklow's Reply to Dr. Layburn's Pamphlet against him SIR I Return to you with a second part of the same Tune a Pamphlet of Dr. Layburn's against Mr. Blacklow and his Reply Having gotten a Copy of it I carried it to Mr. Blacklow who as soon as I had told him what it was lamented himself saying to me You know my endeavours have ever been to make a clearnesse and show a rationality both in Faith and Divinity as St. Peter commands us to be ready to do and must I now when mine Ague gives me small or no leasure be employ'd in retorting the Pot-gunshot of this Drs. Well since it is God's disposition read what you bring But I professe my conscience being witnesse to my words that were it not that through ambition he seeks to ruine the Clergy hoping by such indirect and unhandsome means to make them stoop to accept him for their Superiour all his calumnies against my person should not make me open my mouth to answer them But this hath been our long quarrel that I have resisted his ambition and for this he seeks other pretences against me This being said he held his peace and I began to read nor had I read six lines but Mr. Blacklow exclamed Jesus what information hath this Dr. Or what insolence is it to publish so patent an untruth against seven or eight of your chief men about London upon pure ghesse For order to communicate my answer was neither granted nor asked but the hint which occasioned me to do so was taken out of his Letter in which he ordered that the said Letter should be sent to all your Brethren Nor was my answer kept from him by me but two Copies given by my self to a friend of his to the end to have them sent to him if his friend had not so much friendship for him as to send it it was not my fault Then I read some two leaves without farther reflexion than that Mr. Blacklow noted that they were spent in the commendation of his own patience the effects of which he desired to see in his actions saying that till that was done words were but winde Besides the good Dr. took Pilate for Christ in citing those words non es amicus Caesaris as a reproach against our Saviour which were spoken to Pilate as every Childe knows so that according to this learned mistake he calls Pilate here p. 5. his Divine master and very sadly and soberly tells us he will strive to imitate him in his injurious reproaches Being come to the 8th page the first objection presented it self which was that Mr. Bl. had approved divers scandalous opinions and would not recal his fact for the intreaties or reasons which were brought him Mr. Bl. reply'd that the story passed thus One of the learnedst and gravest Regulars of the Kingdom had written a book which clash't with another written by a Cosen of the Drs. and the Dr. thought by his friendship to make Mr. Bl. recal his subscription for his Cosen's credit and not being able to do it revenged himself by this groundlesse aspersion For the book hath been justified both in England and beyond Seas nay in Rome it self Wherefore the Dr. hath little reason to offend the party and all his order which maintains it by attributing to it divers scandalous opinions which is a notorius calumny I read farther how my Lord had commanded him to suppresse Mr. Bl. his new Divinity To which Mr. Bl. answered that this depended upon the proof For my Lord in his Letter to him which is yet in his hands dated June 22. hath these words I have been so far from commanding Mr. Laybourn to cry against your book I desired him to suppresse all speech against it as I assure you is true and I hope he will not deny And in his Letter of the 6th of July these what apparent ground you had to write that I had commanded Mr. Layburn to cry against your books was no true ground seeing I commanded him the contrary And afterwards in the Letter Divers Saints and Learned men have salvâ charitate dissented in their opinions even in matters of Divinity and so may you and I do if we will and God willing it shall be so on my part When he had read me these words he added you may by this see how true his pretence was of impugning me in obedience to my Lord's commands and whether my Lord moved him or he my Lord And I remember to have heard that when a friend objected this order of my Lord 's to him he answered my Lord is a weak man By these passages also in his Letters is seen clearly that my Lord judged my Tenets to be onely different opinions in Divinity not meriting such zealous impugnation which the defining Doctor like a new Law-giver to all Christians so confidently pronounces to be Heresies and makes that calumny of his own a seeming pretence for his zeal but in reality a Cloak for his too apparent malice I read farther how for executing this command of my Lords Mr. Bl. was so incensed against him that he cry'd him down in divers companies and the ordinary character he gave him was that he was an illiterate man not able to say Bo to a Goose Mr. Bl. reply'd that the Doctor cared not how unlikely his tales were so he said somewhat that might passe amongst those who knew no more of the businesse than they found in his paper For all that know Mr. Bl. know that he is so far from haunting either good tables or great companies that he can be drawn to neither and besides he is very sparing in his speeches of the Doctor by reason of the place he holds and rather ready to defend him against the many blames those who come from his house lay upon him unlesse it be to those to whom it belongs to see them amended As it happen'd in the Character he speaks of which he wrote to his Superiour and does not think that he used it in any other occasion I read further how he had written Mr. Bl. a civil Letter and put two places of St. Austin in it and concluded that that spirit was not from God which was opposite to St. Austin's spiri● but that his good advice produced little fruit in Mr. Bl. Mr. Bl. answered that the Doctor took care he should not profit by it nor be troubled with answering it for whether perhaps he writ such a Letter or no to show up and down amongst his friends to let them see how gravely he could advise and how learnedly transcribe two places out of St. Austin for which he seems here to prize himself so much yet Mr. Bl. affirms that the Letter was never sent to him and that he should have shew'd how those places of St. Austin came to his purpose as well as have meerly transcribed them and then have left the application of them that is all they were brought for to his own
Again that he made or compiled his conclusions himself is no proof that he understood them for he might take them out of other mens writings But because nothing can passe without some untruth in this Doctors writings he was pleased here to tell us that Mr. Bl. made certain conclusions for a friend of his in Paris which contained both erroneous opinions and false Latin The report is absolutely false that he either made them or saw them before they were printed nor was in Paris sure he is he was not at the Act. Secondly the Doctor insolently censures what the Censors of Paris approved and was well accepted of in the University Thirdly he wonders the Doctor should at least charge him with false Latin in so plain a piece as Theses ought to be which should have been an Argument to him if passion had permitted of the untruth of his report This falshood he said was accompanied with a greater about Mr. Bl. his flying suddenly out of Portugal for his Theses terrified at the Inquisitions proceeding's against them For though it be true they were put in the Inquisition by malice the very day they should have been defended to affront him Yet this was done after they had been approved five several times by several men appointed by the Inquisition which argues the other was onely a trick put upon him Besides the information was never follow'd and the Theses were approved afterwards in the University of Conimbra As for his flying away or quitting the place suddenly which was the second part of the Doctors tale let him inform himself of any that was there and he may know that he stay'd afterwards till the Founder sent him to the Court of Spain about a businesse of great consequence which being dispatch'd with successe he returned to Portugal and stay'd again there till the Founder sent him again into England about another businesse with expresse charge not to return if he perform'd not his errand which he professed to him before-hand he could not do All which Mr. Bl. declared to his Assistants who intreated him to get them also away if he returned not himself and so declaring the Founder's minde to the Inquitour took his leave of him and came away publickly Nor was he blamed for coming away but for not returning to defend Theses in causing which the Doctor had his share For Mr. Bl. his chief errand being to carry Divines from Doway thither and some opposition being made in the consult at London at which the Doctor was present it was resolved that Mr. Bl. should carry a Letter from the Consult to Doway in his favour yet should accept of Humanists if he could not obtain Divines and expresse command given that this clause should be kept from Dr. Kellison But our obedient Doctor against the command and bond of silence and truth to the Clergy writ to Dr. Kellison how the Clergy would be content though he sent no Divines Which Letter Dr. Kellison read to Mr. Bl. untill he came to these words This to your self which closed that businesse by which taking himself in the surprize he read no farther So that Mr. Bl. was forced to accept of Humanists and not to return by the Founder's order The Doctor saith his conference with shame is a dream but let him know that those who carried him thither are yet alive He objects Mr. Bl. his conference with Chillingworth who peradventure vaunted himself for self-conceit and interest push't him thereto but Catholicks who were present were so well satisfied as that they desired another after Dinner and Chillingworth's own party reported that he was too hard for all others but that Mr. Bl. held him to it and hereupon he was in credit with them ever after The ensuing part contain'd the Doctors impugnations of two points of the Souls durance in Purgatory the Pope's personal infallibility When I had read it Mr. Bl. answered that he did well to begin with an untruth to Usher in a like Discourse For the man he impudently named for Mr. Bl. his Secretary was neither asked advice nor knew any thing farther than in publick he had profest untill he saw it finished So that the Dr. casts about his calumnies at random light they where they will Yet he thought the Dr. had had so much knowledge in humanity Books as to understand that men frame the fashion of their writings according to their occasions and this the rather because he findes that the Dr. hath herein imitated him Neither yet doth he believe he had a Secretary notwithstanding the like frame of his Discourse though he entitle his Treatise a summe of his Answer whereas Mr. Bl. called his his own Answer for that he seeth the Doctors weaknesse and humour and phrase throughout it all Neverthelesse if he did he would not be so uncivil as to name him in print as the Doctor most indiscreetly does friends and foes without respect where his occasion serves As concerning the Doctors impugnation of Mr. Bl. sayings about the Pope's personal infallibility he said they were meer flashes of words against experience therefore would spend no time in answering them And as for his objecting to Mr. Bl. his comparison of deflouring sacred Virgins upon an Altar he said it still more and more show'd the Doctors weaknesse For who can doubt but the corruption of all Christian faith in the root and the making all our faith uncertain is greater than any particular sin Besides there were other comparisons of greater force than this which the Dr. neglects to take notice of one whose force consists in a vulgar apprehension As for the second point Mr. Blacklow affirmed that if the Doctor had any friend who perused his books he might know that the places of St. Austin for Souls not being perfectly purged till the day of judgement be recorded in his Treatise de medio statu. But how ignorant the Dr. is in St. Austin he could not chuse but shew who cites first a place out of his 15th book de Trin. where the Saint teacheth nothing but that they who dy without sin go immediately to Heaven without any thought of Purgatory as appears there by these words Ad agnum pertinentes quando fine hujus vitae resolvuntur a corpore jus in eis retinendis non habent invidae potestates Promde liberi a Diaboli potestate suscipiuntur ab Angelis sanctis c. Constituuntur autem purgati ab omni cogitatione corruptionis in placidis sedibus donec recipiant corpora sua He added that the Doctors interpretation of this place was perfect non-sence For what can this mean that St. Austin or any body else should place those Souls which immediately go to Heaven out of their bodies of which he plainly speaks to expect their bodies after their purgation Be Souls in Heaven to be purged or the bodies which being turned into other Creatures have now no foulnesse in them His next Testimony is none of St.