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A70039 Apokrypta apokalypta velata quædam revelata : some certain, hidden, or vailed spiritual verities revealed : upon occasion of various very prying and critical queries concerning God, the devil, and man, as to his body, soul, and spirit, Heaven, Hell, Judgement &c : propounded to George Fox, John Perrot, Samuel Fisher : and after that (with a complaint for want of, and stricter urgency for an answer) re-propounded to Edward Burroughs : by two persons, choosing to notifie themselves to us no other way then by these two unwonted (if not self-assumed) titles, viz. Livinus Theodorus, and Sabina Neriah : which truths (as there inspired by the spirit of God) are here expired in love to the souls of men / from ... Samuel Fisher. Fisher, Samuel, 1605-1665.; Fox, George, 1624-1691.; J. P. (John Perrot), d. 1671? 1661 (1661) Wing F1047; ESTC R31513 23,491 32

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ΑΠΟΚΡΥΠΤΑ ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΠΤΑ VELATA Quaedam REVELATA SOME Certain hidden or vailed Spiritual Verities Revealed Upon occasion of Various very prying and critical Queries Concerning God The Devil Man as to his Body Soul and Spirit Heaven Hell Judgement c. Propounded to George Fox John Perrott Samuel Fisher And after that with a complaint for want of and stricter urgency for an Answer re-propounded to Edward Burroughs By two persons choosing to notisie themselves to us no other way then by these two unwonted if not self-assumed Titles viz. Livinus Theodorus and Sabina Neriah Which Truths as there inspired by the Spirit of God are here exspired in love to the souls of men From out of a Hole in the Gate-House at Westminster through an Earthen Vessel there Imprisoned for the Testimony of Jesus known among men by the Name of SAMUEL FISHER LONDON Printed for Robert Wilson 1661. THese Returns to the Letter and Replies to the Queries here ensuing were in no wise written at first with any purpose of publishing them so generally as at the Press But with particular respect to the satisfaction of those two private Querists onely viz. L. T. S. N. who have on their part so privily all along managed the matter of their enquiry that we can truly say notwithstanding our express desires to them of such a thing we cannot learn to this very day by any hint to us as from themselves distinctly either Who or What or Whence or Where they are their Letters bearing no date from any Sign or Place whereby we might be put into a capacity to come unto any outward Cognizance of or Acquaintance with them And themselves not willing for ought I see to be known to us either by their faces or by the places of their abode but onely by these two I will not say Hypocritical but Aenigmatical names of Livinus Theodorus Sabina Neriah But so it was that they never sending at all for our Answer to their Queries to that person nominated by themselves with whom it was left for them at their own request but about five or six weeks after it was made ready for them propounding their Queries all over again verbatim to E. B. together with not onely expressions of greater earnestness and sharper eagerness after an Answer but also a Letter of complaint against us three G. F. J. P. S. F. as either nilling or neglecting and not at all regarding to gratific our friends as they style themselves in a matter of so grand importance and lastly they not yet coming nor so much as sending to me for it though in a Letter left for them and carried to them by their Messenger it was long since signified to them that it lies by me for them if they would either call themselves or send for it to me by any that might signifie to me where any of us as occasion is may speak with either of them their Messenger also intimating as I hear that their expectation and desire now is of seeing something Printed as in Answer to them I held it meet in no less love to their souls who e're they are and even to the souls of all men then to my own to commit and commend this long since written Reply in Print to their or any other persons whether private or publick perusal in such manner and form as hereafter follows S. F. Some certain hidden or vailed spiritual Verities revealed c. FRIENDS YOU who tam masculiné quam foemininé and that as may well seem at least to some mendaciter fictitiè potius quàm veraciter sincerè subscribe your selves respectively by these two more Latine Greek and Hebrew then Engl●sh Names which are significative of a nature and state which your selves are short of of Livinus Theodorus and Sabina Neriah I have seen your thirteen Queries propounded to G. F. J. P. and my self or either of us together with your seeming sympathetical Preface to them wherein after an acknowledgement of our Ministry as such whereby people may be brought into a posture or frame of spirit in which they may be capable to receive the Mystery of Godliness which ye believe also by the Light within us to be in a great measure elucidated unto us you express your selves in some other particulars in such wise as gives me occasion by way of Preface to my Answer to premise something as to them You intimate of the things exhibited to us in your Questions that they are matters of such weight that the consideration thereof hath oft much reflected upon your spirits so that you have gone sometimes to our Assemblies in hopes to hear Discourses of such like as being of great concernment and very pertinent for every one to know but though ye have heard us promising felicity and consolation in the Creatures obedience and threatning judgement and misery in its disobedience yet we never explicated so as to your satisfaction when where and in what manner they must of necessity participate of the one or the other Hereupon and for other reasons by you alledged viz. the profitableness of writing above verbal Discourses as in which things discussed are more subject to be obliviated wrested perverted and the intellect more obnubilated then in the other which all are reasons of little cogency if there were no other to enforce me to answer the curiosity of your itching minds in this case sith I well know that in the Power and Spirit of God truth may be unfolded both much more and to many more also that are of open and honest hearts in one hour by word of mouth then it can by the writing of many days to men who have pruritum cognoscendi more desire meerly to know then mind to do what good is already known I say as you say also that causis superius you present to us the following Queries in writing in order to receiving a satisfactory Answer in the same way of writing hoping it will not be offensive sed potius cum delectatione accepta but acceptum ye should have said had ye heeded what ye wrote promising in case ye do receive our Answer in plain honest down-right words ye will be obliged not onely to acknowledge your selves to be our friends but us also to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and be ready to acknowledge the truth of our Principles before or to any that you shall hear oppose us Now truly Friends here are not a few very fair pretences and seeming shews of simplicity but yet latet anguis in herbà there is an eye that is not evil neither but pure and single which sees more of the Serpent then of the Saint in all this and in the Queries that follow after it and more of that subtilty of the Enemy then of that simplicity that is in Christ whose meat and drink it was to do the wil made known whilst the other feeds no higher then on that dust of desiring to know and discourse of