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A09094 A brief discours contayning certayne reasons why Catholiques refuse to goe to church. Written by a learned and vertuous man, to a friend of his in England. And dedicated by I.H. to the Queenes most excellent Maiestie Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1580 (1580) STC 19394; ESTC S102386 63,624 177

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whole both in writing and in printe and they haue bene vrged by sondrye meanes by all kinde of frendship that we could make by humble request by earnest letterrs to diuers preachers to further the matter and if I be not deceaued to my Lord of London him selfe for the bringinge of the matter to your Maiesties vnderstanding and to the consideration of the Lordes of your Highnes preuie Counsayle And if by anye mischaunce these former supplycations came not to lighte or expressed not fully the Catholiques plaine and simple meaninges I beséeche your most gratious Maiestie y t this maye serue ether for a replication or explanation of the same wherin I in their names most humblie on my knées euen for Gods cause and the loue of his truthe aske at your Maiesties handes that some such indifferent triall maye be had by pulique disputation or otherwise And as for the particulers we shal easely agrée with them For we offer al thes thrée wayes both ioyntly and seuerally that is ether by trying out the truthe by bréefe scolasticall argumentes or by continuall spéeche for a certayn space to be alotted out and thother parte presently or vppon studye to aunswere the same or finally by preaching before your Maiesty or where els your Maiestie shall appoynt And for our saftyes we aske nothing else but onlye your Maiesties woorde set doune vnto vs in no ampler manner then the Counsayle of Trent made the safconduct to our aduersaries which they notwithstanding refused to accepte But I hope they shall sée that we will not refuse or mistrust your Maiesties woorde if we maye once sée it sett doune by proclamation or otherwise by letters patents for our safetie but that within 80. dayes after by the grace of God we shal appeare before your Highnes with what daunger soeuer to our lyues other wise for the tryall of Gods truthe which we make no dout but to be cléere on our side If our aduersaries refuse this offer they shall shew to much distrust in their owne cause for it is with great laboure perill and disaduauntage on our partes and on their sides nothing at all I would they durst make but halfe the like offer for their comming hither on this side the Seas it should be most thankfully taken and they with great safety and all gentile intreatie disputed withal and made to sée as I presume their owne weaknes But séeing this is not to be hoped we relye vppon the other beséeching your Maiestie most humblye and instantlye that our iuste demaunde maye be graunted for the tryall of Gods truthe most necessarie for vs all to our eternall saluation And nowe to leaue all these thinges to the holye prouidence of God and to the highe wisdome of your most excellent Maiestie to consider of we are humblye to craue at this time and most instantlye to request that your Highnes will not take in euill parte this our boulde recourse vnto your Royall Persone in these our afflictions and passing great calamyties You are borne our souerayne Princesse and mother and we your natural subiectes and children Whether then should children rōne in their afflictions but vnto the loue and tender care of their deare mother especiallye she being such a mother as her power is sufficient to reléeue them in all poyntes her good will testifyed by infinit benefites and her noble and mercifull disposition knowen and renouned thorough out the world If your Maiestie were abrode in manye partes of your Realme to vnderstand the miseries hear the cryes sée the lifting vp of hands to heauen for the present afflictions which this persecution hath brought I knowe your Maiestie would be much moued as all men are here by the onlye reporte of the same I could touch certayne particulers of importance to that effect But I will kéepe the lawe of Areopagus I will saye nothing to moue my Iudge whose wisdome I well know and whose goodnes I nothing at all mistrust If your highnes were of that disposition from which you are most furre of as to take pleasure in 〈◊〉 afflictions delite and comforte in our calamities we could be contente to beare this and ten tunes more in soe good a cause as we suffer for And if there be anye other of such cruell appetite whom your Maiesty should think good to be satisfyed with blood there wante not Catholiques bothe there and héere which would most willyngly offer them selues to purchase quietnes vnto the rest Diuers are in bondes there most readye I am sure to accepte such an offer and if that nomber will not suffice let the woorde be but spoken and manye more shall most ioyfullye present them selues from hence hauing reserued our selues to no other ende if God would make vs woorthye of that and that by our deathes we might geue testimonye to the Catholique cause and redéeme the pityfull veration of soe manye thousand aflicted people at this daye in England IESVS Christ in aboundance of mercye blesse your Maiestye to whome as he knoweth I wyshe as much good as to mine owne soule perswadinge my selfe that all good Catholikes in England do the same And they which goe about to insinuate the contrarye are in mine opinyon but appoynted instrumentes by the common enemie to dispoyle your Maiestie of your strongest piller and best right hand as soone after their purpose had it would appéere shalbe more manifest before the last tribunal seat where we all shall be presented shortely without difference of persons and where the cogitations of al hartes shal be reueled and examined and in iustice of iudgment rightfully rewarded Now matters are craftely clowded vp and false visards put on vppon euerye action Then all shall appeare in sinceritie and truthe and nothing auayle but onlye the testimonie of a good conscience The which Catholiques by suffering doe séeke to retayne and which God of his infinit goodnes inspire your Maiestie graciously without enforcement to permitt vnto them still Your Maiesties most humble and obedient subiect I. Howlet THE ANSWER OF A VERTVOVSAND Lerned Man to A Gentleman in England towching the late imprisonment of Catholiques ther. THE VEW of your late letters my dere and worship ful frind brought vnto me some sorowe and much cōfort The sorowe procéeded of the wo ful and aflicted case of my pore countrie so pityfullye set downe by yeure penn vnto myne eye wherin as you writ so many greate Gentlemen of worshipp are imprisoned for there cō science and relygion of late so many good howses broken vp so mani hows holders dispersed and fled away so many yonge Gentlemen and seruantes vnprouided so many pore people destitute so many wyues disioyned from there husbandes so many children berefte of ther parentes suche flying such runninge such shuttinge vp in prisons such pitifull abidinge hunger thirst and cold in prison as you describe dolefull for vs to heare héere but more rufull for you to behold ther and all