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A75699 An answer to divers scandals mentioned in a certain pamphlet, entituled, The humble remonstrance of Sr. Iohn Stawell. Written by John Ashe Esquire, 1654. Ashe, John, Esquire. 1654 (1654) Wing A3944; Thomason E1072_2*; ESTC R208223 28,340 31

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the Warre I thereupon sent my Letter to sir John Stawell letting him know That I could not gain a time as yet to deliver his Petition to the Parliament although I had done my utmost endeavours therein and that my occasions did call me suddenly into the Countrey therefore I did desire him to direct me into what hand I should put his Petition whilest I was absent which should not be above three weeks at most This Letter I sent to Newgate to sir John Stawell and he returned me an answer to this effect That he was very thankfull to me for the great care I had taken in the delivery of his Petition and was sorry that it had no better successe and that since my occasions called me into the Countrey he directed me to place his Petition in the hands of Mr. Denzil Hollis or Sir Philip Stapleton the very next morning I came to the Parliament-House somewhat early before the House sate and there very happily I met Mr. Hollis who was in a private discourse with another Gentleman I took the opportunity because I was to go out of Town the day following and somewhat uncivilly interrupting Mr. Hollis told him That Sir Iohn Stawell presented his respects unto him and had sent him a Petition which he did desire might be presented to the House by his hand Mr. Hollis took from me the Petition and put it in his pocket willing me to acquaint Sir Iohn Stawell that he would take care thereof And the same day assoon as I did return unto my Lodging I wrote a Letter to Sir Iohn Stawel wherein I told him That according to his direction I had delivered his Petition to Mr Hollis who had promised to take care thereof and advised him to employ some friend to mind Mr. Hollis of the same lest he should forget it Sir Iohn Stawel gave me an answer to this Letter the next morning which Letter his servant delivered me as I was taking horse to ride into the Countrey The Contents of which Letter were That he heartily thanked me for lodging his Petition in so worthy a hand and that he would observe my advice by sending some friend to Mr. Hollis to mind him thereof and so wished me a happy journey and a safe return I then went into the Countrey and returned again to the Parliament about three weeks after and assoon as I met with Mr. Hollis I asked him what he had done with Sir Iohn Stawels Petition which I had delivered him he told me That it was such a Petition that if he had delivered it to the House it would have more incensed the House against him For in that Petition said Mr. Hollis he desired nothing of the Parliament but his removal from Newgate to a better Prison Then said I Where is the Petition and what is become of it Mr. Hollis answered That he had sent it back to Sir Iohn Stawell with this direction That Sir Iohn Stawel should draw another Petition humbly acknowledging his miscarriages and to desire pardon for the same and the Prayer to be That the Parliament would remit him to Gold-Smiths Hall there to make his Composition and receive the benefit of Exeter Articles And I also sent him word said he that if he would send me such a Petition which would be for his good I would not only deliver the same to the Parliament but would engage all my friends that his desires might be granted Well said I did Sir John Stawell hearken to your advice and hath he sent you such a Petition No no said Mr. Hollis he doth utterly refuse to be advised by me Certainly the man is either mad or hath lost his wits else he would not be so obstinate Then said I Sir John Stawell hath often been advised by me and other his friends to follow that course which you have now advised him unto But he hath alwaies rejected our counsels and is peremptory in his resolutions which will be his ruine And I do affirm that I never received any other Petition from Sir John Stawell but that which I now mentioned And now Reader having thus in all plainness and truth made thee this faithful Narrative with all its circumstances and shewed who the Witnesses are that can and I presume will if called make good the same thou wilt exceedingly admire the front and boldness of this Gentleman Sir John Stawel who with so much confidence should adventure to publish in Print that which not only his own conscience tels him to be a notorious untruth but also knows the Witnesses that can convict him thereof and what cause hast thou then to believe those other stories which he hath printed and were as they are pretended private discourses between Sir Iohn Stawell and my self I had here concluded this discourse but finding in page 59 60 and 61. the Copy of a Letter signed by Sir Anthony Irby and directed unto Thracy Paunsfoot Esq and also a Certificate signed by Sir David Watkins I thought it requisite to give some answer to the said Letter and Certificate and then to conclude In that Letter signed by Sir Anthony Irby amongst other things which he doth there misrecite these particulars are related and asserted viz. That Sir Iohn Stawels deportment to us of the Committee at that time meaning at his second appearance and the other time that he was before us for my part I took no offence at it neither do I think justly there could be any he is of himself of a blunt carriage but for incivility I saw none at the times he was before us either in gesture or language for my part I would have had him admitted to Composition knowing money would have done the Parliament service besides by his Articles we ought but I was but one others were not of my mind but heightned his offence high took acceptions at his carriage and language would have it reported to the House For my part then I thought that there was more in it than was outwardly expressed but the truth was by the Order of the House we were bound up from admitting him to compound unless he took the Covenant except the House would dispence with it which they did when they approved of those Articles To this part of the Letter I give this Answer That Sir Anthony Irby was the principal man of all the Committee that took exceptions at the Paper which he is pleased now to call Sir John Stawels Petition and was presented at his first appearance And he first moved That the said Paper might be rejected saying it was rather a Remonstrance then a Petition And Sir Anthony Irby especially together with all the rest of the Committee then present were so offended at Sir John Stawels language and behaviour that they made an Order that I then being in the Chair of that Committee should the next day report the same to the Parliament which Report had been made accordingly but that I my self out of my respects to
AN ANSWER TO DIVERS SCANDALS Mentioned in a certain Pamphlet Entituled THE Humble Remonstrance OF Sr. IOHN STAWELL WRITTEN By JOHN ASHE Esquire 1654. LONDON Printed by Thomas Newcomb dwelling in Thamestreet over against Baynards Castle Anno Domini 1654. AN ANSWER TO Divers Scandals mentioned in a certain PAMPHLET Entituled THE Humble Remonstrance OF Sir John Stawell IT is not my purpose at this time to write an exact Narrative of all proceedings and passages which have been in the Case of Sir John Stawel from the 18 of July 1646. which was the time of his first coming to London from Exceter unto the year 1652. at which time he was Arraigned before the High Court of Justice I having done that formerly even upon the first sight of that Scandalous Pamphlet Entituled The Humble Remonstrance of Sir John Stawell but did not at that time expose it to publique view for these Reasons 1. First Because an Answer had been given by me to all those Particulars which may any way seem to reflect on me before the High-Court of Justice to the general satisfaction of the whole Court and all that were present and to the shame and confusion of the said Sir John Stawel who was then a Prisoner at the Barr of the said Court 2. Secondly Because the Scandals mentioned in the said Pamphlet were so apparently false and improbable that any one who hath been in the least manner acquainted with those transactions might easily perceive even in the said Paper a manifest confutation of those falshoods which are therein malitiously suggested and vainly charged on me 3. Thirdly Because that in regard of my respects to his Family I was willing to be silent lest in giving an Answer to those scandals wherewith he endeavoureth in the said Pamphlet to asperse me by saying that I did clandestinely obstruct his composition I should do what I conceive my self at this time obliged unto viz. clearly prove by undeniable arguments and circumstances that he never intended to compound at all but resolved on the contrary flattering himself with hopes of seeing the late King restored to his Power and greatness from whom he might receive not only his whole Estate which was unjustly taken from him as he constantly affirmed but also a great reward for his many sufferings in owning and defending the Cause of the said King beyond any of his Party But since the Honourable Parliament hath been pleased to refer the Petition of the said Sir John Stawell unto a Committee where the matter of Fact may be throughly examined to the end that my testimony on the behalf of the Commonwealth may not seem to be any way impeached in regard of those feigned Scandals mentioned in his said Pamphlet and lest my carriage in the business of his Composition might be misrepresented to those who were strangers to my actions therein I have judged it necessary to publish these ensuing lines premising a few Particulars which were fully cleared in that discourse which I did then write which are as followeth First That although Sir John Stawell did appear at the Committee of Gold-Smiths Hall about four daies before the time limited by the Articles of Exceter for Compositions were expired yet he never intended to make any Composition there according to the Order of Parliament and the Rules prescribed for Composition upon the said Articles but did oftentimes declare his resolution to the contrary And when the Lady Stawell his wife and Sir Edward Stawell his son then in France did earnestly solicite him that they or either of them might Petition the Parliament to be admitted to compound for the said Estate since he refused it Sir John Stawell did deny to give his consent thereunto and did threaten his said son that in case he did attempt any such thing he would disinherit him and was much incensed against the said Sir Edward Stawell for that he had written Letters unto Mr. Ashe for his admission to Composition since his Father refused it some of which Letters Sir John Stawell intercepted 2 That Sir Iohn Stawel did wholly depend upon the late Kings restoring to his power and authority that from him he might receive not only his whole estate then unjustly taken from him by the Parliament as he said but also a great reward for his many sufferings in owning and justifying the late Kings Cause beyond any other of his party and did send to the said King when he was last at Hampton Court desiring him to take notice of the great suffering he had undergone for his Majesties Cause and did let him know the hopes he had of his Majesties great favor and reward when he should be restored And upon this confidence did Sir Iohn Stawell neglect his composition and refused the benefit of Exceter Articles 3. That Sir Iohn Stawell during the life of the late King and after his first appearance at Goldsmiths Hall did never tender any Petition for his admittance to composition or to claim the benefit of Exceter Articles either unto the Parliament or Committee of Parliament or any other Court whatsoever And when in the life time of the late King he was arraigned for Treason at the Upper Bench Bar he did not then claim the benefit of Exceter Articles nor made any mention of them for his exemption from that tryal but on the contrary he not onely refused to own the Judge that sat there by Commission from the Parliament but uttered an expression to the Court to this or the like effect viz. My offence is not Treason for which I am here arraigned but because I would not permit the Committee of Goldsmiths Hall to pick my purse and give my consent to pay a sum of money for the redemption of my Estate which is unjustly taken from me by which expression he sufficiently declared his resolution against compounding 4. That I did with all reallity and faithfulness use my utmost endeavours to perswade Sir Iohn Stawell to submit unto the Parliament and to make his Composition that so himself and his posterity might be preserved from ruine and that Sir Iohn Stawell did refuse to follow that my councel and advice and did declare that his resolution was not to Compound but to depend upon the said Kings favour And when I did press him to follow the examples of all the other Gentlemen of the Kings Party who submitted to Composition he did seem to jeer and deride them for their follies intimating that his Estate would be restored him by the King with sufficient damages from those that had possessed the same during the Sequestration and for that reason would not permit either his Lady or any other friend for her to take any of his Estate at a Rent from the Sequestrators Fifthly That those scandalous aspersions cast upon me by Sir John Stawell in his Pamphlet Entituled his Humble Remonstrance and mentioned in page 23 24 28 and 30. are meer fictions and never heard of by me or any other person