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A96468 Truth further defended, and William Penn vindicated; being a rejoynder to a book entitutled, A brief and modest reply, to Mr. Penn's tedious, scurrilous, and unchristian defence, against the bishop of Cork. Wherein that author's unfainess is detected, his arguments and objections are answered. / By T.W. and N.H. Wight, Thomas, ca. 1640-1724. 1700 (1700) Wing W2108; ESTC R204122 88,609 189

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and altho' this controversie has happened with the Bp. yet we may justly say 't was neither desired nor sought for by us and had the Bp. continued to be as easie with his Pen as he was in not persecuting the Quakers otherways there had been no occasion for all this publick controversy the Bp. tells us p. 26. he hindered a certain person from publishing Memoirs of Mr. P's Life of his turning Quaker and of his business at saint Omers c. Answ So far as the Bp. really did so in tenderness to the good name of W. P. it is to be commended in him tho' such Memoirs were ever so untrue However we tell the Bp. whatever his mind was heretofore yet the giving such a slant of being at St. Omers don't now look very kind We farther tell the Bp. that W. P. is no stranger to malitious lies and forgeries both upon himself in particular as well as upon the Quakers in general and as to the true reason of W. P's turning Quaker whatever Malice may frame or suggest yet we think no considerate and Impartial Man can possibly believe he had any other motive or consideration to his turning Quaker but the good of his Soul while the way to Quakerism so called is so very contrary to the greatness Honour and preferment with other such like worldly considerations which are most commonly the motives to great Changes and that at the same time W. P. turned Quaker he turned his back upon all these things Next as to the business of St. Omers This Instance shews what sort of Memoirs these were like to be This Story is as old and thread bare as it is false and if lying charges and stories were proofs W. P. was not only at St. Omers but had received Orders at Rome and had dyed a Papist many years past But why do not all his false Accusers prove his being there by assigning a credible witness or witnesses who saw him there or some way or other demonstrate he was there No that was never done and indeed for a good reason because it could not in truth be done Now this blind story we confront by a publick Print written by W. P. in answer to a friend of his who importunately desired him for satisfaction to the credulous and such who knew not W. P. that he would in a Publick maner answer that among other lying stories the Letter is Dated October 1688. wherein W. P. makes return to those lying Aspersions p. 11. and Solemnly declares that he was not only no Jesuit or Papist but that he never was at St. Omers in all his Life nor did he so much as know or ever correspond with any one there Here W. P. put it upon the test his lying Enemies had then a fair opportunity if they could to prove him a Lyer and in so doing would have had good ground to suspect him a Papist too Ibid. p. 26. and 27. The Bp. concludes his Book first telling of W. P's vile Treatment and calls his Defence an unhandsome piece then proceeds with a Prayer that God will forgive all to Mr. P. and his brethren and bestow upon them a Spirit of true Faith meekness and peace of heavenly mindedness Charity Mortification and all the Graces they pretend to and that their hearts may be one day found as void of Errour Pride Scorn and peevish rancour as Mr. P's Book is full of the expressions of them all Thus ends the Bp. Answ As to the vile Treatment and the Expressions of Errour Pride Scorn peevish rancour c. the Bp. tells us is in W. P's unhandsom piece we say they are hard words and sooner said then proved and the Reader may remember the Bp. throughout his Reply has been readier at charges then proofs most of which we think has in the end fallen upon himself instead of W. P. as we have shewn and in this case we do deny what the Bp. hath asserted and for Umpirage i● the matter refer our selves to the Impartial Reader who have been most guilty of these and such like expressions W. P. in his Defence or the Bp. in his Reply Next as to the Bp's Prayer If the Bp. had been more sparing to misrepresent villifie and abuse W. P. and the Quakers then he hath been it might have come with less suspition of its reality but we think its next to impossible that any Man who endeavours to abuse and misrepresent another can at the same time Pray truly and heartily for him And as to those Graces the Bp. mentions tho' on the one hand we will not boast of them yet through the mercy and goodness of God some of us can in humility of Soul say we have in measure witnessed the work of Mortification in our Souls through the Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ And now to conclude We can in sincerity say we have not according to the best of our understandings either misrepresented the Bp. or wilfully overlookt his sense but so far as we understood the Import of his words and where the force of his Arguments lay we have as truly stated them and thereupon answered with uprightness and whether we have thus done by the Bp. and he hath done so by W. P. or not is left to the Impartial Reader and so we conclude this Rejoynder Cork the 15. of the 11. Month 1699. T. W. N. H. The END THE Author's Absence from the Press hath occasioned several Errors in the Printing the most Material whereof are here Corrected and those of lesser Note which have escaped the Reader is desired to Correct with his Pen or over-look ERRATA PAge 1. line 6. for himself thanks Read himself thanks l. 15. abated and r. abated and. p. 13. l. 2. Doctrine by r. Doctrine by p. 14. l. 1. r. First Impression p. 19. l. 13. blot out Heb. 10. 35. p. 24. l. 21. deny r. deny c. p. 39. l. 1 blot out then p. 53. l. 1. p. 9. r. p. 14. p. 61. l. this r. thus p. 62. l. 11. Bp's r. Bp. p. 66. l. 9. W. P's r. W. P. p. 83. l. 11. blot out and. p. 86. l. 25. p 29. r. p. 57. p. 90. l. 23. 1 John 1. 12. r. 1 John 1. 1. p. 93. l. 23. love r. leave p. 100. l. 2. what have r. what Rule have p. 106. l. 7. Matt. 43. r. Matt. 73. p. 110. John 5. 8. r. John 3. 8. p. 126. l. ult blot out appearance Ibid. second coming r. second outward coming p. 131. l. 2 and 3. blot out which we do not l. 4. the occasion r. on the occasion p. 133. l. 2. viz. no. r. viz. that no. p. 143 l. 8. Psal 66. 17. r. Psal 66. 16. p. 145. l. 14. p 54. r. p. 80. l. 18. blot p. l. 19. vers r. verses p. 148. l. 29 being r. been p. 151. l. 2. blot out 1 Cor. 6. 19. p. 159. l. 18. strongly r. strangely p. 161. l. 15. excepted r. accepted p. 163. l. 11. Matt. 6. 21. r. Matt. 6. 31. p. 170. l. 7. as a Mercenary r. as Mercenary
Truth further Defended AND William Penn Vindicated BEING A REJOYNDER TO A BOOK ENTITULED A Brief and Modest Reply to Mr. Penn 's Tedious Scurrilous and Unchristian Defence against the Bishop of Cork Wherein that Author's Unfairness is Detected his Arguments and Objections are Answered By T. W. and N. H. They are of those that Rebel against the Light they know not the ways thereof nor abide in the Paths thereof Job 24. 13. In the Net which they hid is their own Foot taken Psal 9. 15. Printed in the Year 1700. THE PREFACE FRIENDLY READER WE Can assure thee it is not agreeable to our inclinations to concern our selves in matters of Controversie more especially in Print But the defence of Truth the Vindication of our abused Principles and Friends in general with our Absent Friend in particular c. prevail'd upon us to undertake the following Rejoynder in Answer to a Book wrote in this City Entituled A Brief and Modest Reply to Mr. Penn's Tedious Scurrilous and Unchristian Defence against the Bp. of Cork c. To which Book tho the Authour has not Subscribed his Name yet we conceive him to be Edward Wettenhall Late Bp. of Cork 1st Because we are certainly informed he ordered the Printing and caused the same to be Published 2ly It is not only called and allowed by all to be his so far as we have heard but confirmed so to be in Crying about the streets of Dublin and Cork 3ly The Book it self puts it out of Question to be his or don by a person to whom he dictated which is observable throughout the same and so particularly to be noted in the very Introduction Likewise in p. 3. speaks of a Book of W. P's then before him These Reasons having induced us to conclude him the Authour we have therefore in our following Discourse Styled him so We observe the Bp. in the Title of his Book Applies Brevity and Modesty to his own account but the blackning Epithets of Tediousness Scurrillity and Unchristianity to W. P's To which we Answer 1st That the Bp's Reply is brief we grant as we have observed and so Brief too that we shall not determin but leave it to the Reader to judge whether it deserves the Name of a Reply But if styling his Reply Brief and W. P's Defence Tedious will plead Excuse for its being so short of an Answer we allow the Bp. has made an advantage thereby 2ly As to its Modesty we will here give a few of the many Instances we could bring and let the Reader judg If charging the Quakers with Sleight Cunning Craftiness Lying in Wait to deceive a Character for the worst of men as in p. 1st If Calling the Testimony of our Friends to the Light of Christ Jesus within Men according to Holy Scriptures The Poisonous Pill of their Light within Page 13. Making W. P. a Diffuser of Poison Page 18. Charging the Quakers most uncharitably with being so intent upon minding worldly gain both Day and Night as to pass most Days in the Week without a Prayer to God either in Publick Assembly or Family page 21. Suggesting that W. P. is Popishly Affected or has a Kindness for Atheism because he is for a Free Gospel Ministry and pleads against a Compelled or Forced Maintenance for them Page 25. If these Expressions with abundance more of the same kind through his Reply too tedious to Mention here be either Modest upon W. P. in particular or the Quakers in general we are to learn what Modesty means And if the Bp. upon second consideration shall still think them so we may take leave to tell him we are no more obliged to him for his Modesty then to his Charity 3ly As to W. P's being Scurrilous and Unchristian in his Defence we say If bare charges were to pass for Proofs he might be thought guilty of both but if demonstration be required for Proofs as well as charges we appeal to the Reader and let him be judg whether they will not rather fall upon the Bp. while we believe he will find no such scurrilous and Unchristian Treatment in W. P's Defence as are in the Bp's Reply We also observe That altho the Bp's Reply is Dated Cork March 21. 1698 9. at which time he was not removed hence Yet we have no reason assigned wherefore it was not Printed or made Publick till October 1699. What Reasons the Bp. had for delaying its Publication he best knows But this we know that W. P. sailed for Pensilvania in September and soon after out came the Bp's Reply Had W. P. continued in England the delay had been no blame upon the Bp. but since the Bp. had made several personal Reflections and Charges against W. P. which none could Answer so well as himself we think he ought to have Published his Reply before W. P's departure for America since he had time enough for so doing That so W. P. might have appeared in his own Vindication and which he could easily have done had the Bp's Reply come out in due time But since the Bp. thought not fit so to do whereby this Rejoynder hath fallen into the Hands of Persons less skilful in the Defence of Truth then W. P. as we freely confess it hath and not so qualified to Treat the Bp. as W. P. nor perhaps as the Bp. himself might expect The Bp. may be pleased or displeased with himself as he finds occasion for depriving W. P. of that service and thereby to be sure himself of an Abler Opponent But tho the Bp. should dislike us for Opponents yet we think he cannot at least ought not to blame us since Reason and Justice allows us the Priviledge to appear in our Just Vindication when we find our Principles as well as our Friends so greatly Abused Misrepresented and Reflected upon as we believe will plainly appear to the Impartial Reader they are in the Bp's Reply However notwithstanding his Treatment tho we may be plain where the Nature of his Charges extorts it from us yet we hope the Reader will find that we have not only endeavoured to carry our selves with that Moderation towards him which becomes us both as Men and Christians too But likewise as fair Opponents having designedly neither Perverted his Words nor Misrepresented his Sence so far as we understood them and whether we have thus done on our Parts or the Bp. hath done the contrarry by W. P. is left to the Impartial Reader To Conclude The following Rejoynder was Writ last Winter according to its Date at the End and as a Reason for its lying so long Unprinted the Reader may please to understand That being advised by a Friend from Dublin above Eight Months past he had sent One of the Bp's Reply's by way of Mary-Land to W. P. it gave us some hopes of an Answer thereto from himself which we greatly desired But inasmuch as some Letters hath been very lately received from W. P. and that he makes no mention