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A33355 One blow more at the Saducees and gross antichristian errors containing a brief narrative of the most material things that passed in discourse at Kings-Heath-Meeting the 4th of October 1696 betwixt Thomas Curtis, an antient preacher among the Quakers and me, William Clarke, one that belonged to that meeting. Clarke, William, Quaker.; Richardson, John, 1667-1753. 1697 (1697) Wing C4568A; ESTC R26480 7,089 10

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but in a publick Assembly nay and we that withstood these gross Errors T.C. said we had manifested our selves and should be more manifest as if some Evil should befall us for opposing their gross Errors for it is usual for this sort of People to pour out Prophesies so that nothing can befall any but they have bespoke it all before-hand And I hope none that are pious will or can blame me for making this publick for what I had writ to him in a private Letter he made publick in a Meeting for Worship and also said in this Conference all that did not speak were satisfied with these Doctrines of his here laid down And I hope this may be a means to excite all pious Men of all Professions to draw forth their Pens against these damnable Heresies who may be more able to do it then my feeble Pen can do Reader whereas there may go abroad divers Reports of what happened the 4th of October at Kings-Heath-Meeting I thought it necessary to acquaint the Reader with the Reasons and to prevent false Reports that may go about it Thomas Curtis did commonly in his Preaching Challenge any that were not satisfied with his Doctrine That if they would shew their dissatisfactions he would endeavour to inform them And I and divers more were not satisfied with his unsound Doctrine I wrote a Letter to him the 22d of the 2d Month 1696. shewing my dissatisfaction with Eight Queries I proposed to him desiring his Answer and I received a Letter from him bearing date the 29th of the 2d Month 1696. wherein he promised to give me and my dissatisfied Friends a Meeting at some Convenient Place as we shall agree said he Some short time after he told me He did not understand three Words or three Lines in my Letter and said he I will not Answer it But about six Months after he proceeded as the Narrative gives an Account that is to say without any agreed Meeting nor any one Person in the Meeting knowing any thing of his Design and began as the Narrative will inform thee which was a surprise to the People and though he tells me in his Letter he would give me and my dissatisfied Friends a Meeting as we should agree yet he kept not his Word and now challenged to meet 5000 of us half way to Dispute which I hope he will keep to his last Challenge yet he hath said to a Friend of mine He hath washed his Hands of us but surely he cannot have washed his Hands of us till he hath met us half way according to his Challenge or else acknowledge his gross Error under his own Hand And for these Reasons I made it publick so that all professing Christianity and that are Pious may see the reason that I had in the first place to write to T. C. and such unsound Doctrine continually broached among us and secondly his proceedings contrary to his own Letter and then his Reading my Letter so partially as may be seen in the Narrative and thirdly hoping others may be stirred up by hearing such gross Errors maintained in a publick Assembly and a Challenge to meet 5000 to maintain it that Pious Men will not only justifie me in this my Publication wherein the Doctrine of the Christian Religion is in so great danger to be undermined And fourthly that it may be seen that these Quakers and George Whitehead and William Penn agree in gross Errors and only differ chiefly about the Female Government of Womens Meetings Fifthly and that many may be delivered from those pernicious Errors these People hold And sixthly that no more may be drawn aside for it is notorious that they are the most stubborn people this day in Christendom to be reformed And Reader if thou shalt please to compare this above Narrative with a Paper lately published in Print by some Reading-Quakers whereof T. C. is one Intituled The Reading Quakers vindicated wherein he plainly contradicts most of his unsound Assertions he openly in that publick Meeting at the Barn at Kings-Heath avouched How can thou but be struck with Astonishment and Horror to find Men so hardned in their Hypocrisie so as to publish in Print a Faith point-blank contradictory in some of the chiefest things to what they have both often before and since professed before sufficient Witness and who have the Impudence to say They are not changed in any of their Principles For if they hold the same Principles still which he at Kings-Heath-Meeting did publickly avouch as oft elsewhere whereof there are sufficient Witnesses it is manifestly evident that there late Printed Vindication is a great Cheat and Impostor put upon the World That the above Narrative is a true Relation of the most material things that passed in Discourse at Kings-Heath-Meeting aforesaid we do sincerely declare and in Testimony thereof both of us being Eye and Ear Witnesses we set to our Names William Clarke Iohn Richardson Here followeth a Copy of Thomas Curtis Letter he sent me upon the receiving my Letter which I thought fit here to insert This 29th Day of April 1696. Loving Friend I Have thy long Paper with many false Assertions in it which in time I may Answer and I would know the Names of those who are dissatisfied with my Declaration my time is short and I have a great deal to do and cannot intend to answer so many needless Impertinent Questions and false Charges as is therein But my Business once a little over I may give thee and thy dissatisfied Friends a Meeting at some Convenient Place as we shall agree I have no more but my Love to thee and thy Wife and Family and remain thy Friend Thomas Curtis THE END London Printed by J. Bradford in New-street without Bishops-gate near Hand-Ally 1697