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A03125 A manifest and apparent confutation of an astrological discourse, lately published to the discomfort (without cause) of the weake and simple sort, as will by the sequel of that which foloweth, euidently appeare With a briefe prognostication, or astrologicall prediction, of the coniunction of the two superiour planets, Saturn and Iupiter: which shalbe in the year of our Lord God 1583 the 29. of Aprill, at three of the clocke in the morning. / VVritten the 25. of March by Thomas Heth, Master of Art. Heath, Thomas, astronomer. 1583 (1583) STC 13255.3; ESTC S106102 23,841 84

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in conformi quarta gradu lucido lib. a combustione Desc in epici in contrarietate haiz peregrina ☿ est Liber directus velox asc in epici in horoscopo Desc in eccent in metid perigrinus in gradu vacuo ☽ est Lib●ra a combus in facie propria recepta in suo haiz in conformi quarta gradu lucido augente fortunam Tarda desc in epici eccent minuta lumine numero in 8. domo in quadrato saturni And now to come to the purpose these former considerations wayd if we compare the fortituds of Saturne with his debilities we shall then find that he is strong proportione sesquialtera his strengths being aboue thirtie his debilities only 20. wherefore I may safely say he is well affected well situat and very well configurate no lesse may he thought of Iupiter though not hauing the same fortitudes and debilities in all pointes yet the like in number and same proportion and are both as witnesseth Cardan In primo optimo statu robustissimi quia orientales veloces aparentes Wherefore it were very grosse to cōclude that Saturn shold be so hatefull so hurtful so dispitefull or so malicious by his force and authority to ouercome and subdue the good nature the sweete influence and prosperous irradiation of the beneuolent and friendly Planet Iupiter Vpon his trial who is found in all respectes to be as strong as able as manlike and as mighty as himselfe and hauing him at home in his owne house hee may either entreate him as a friend or else de iure commaunde him as a guest to be ruled and be of good behauiour yeelding the superiority vnto his Host without causing great abundance of waters cold weather vnwonted mischiefes sorrow enuie debate quarrelling hate strife lawing for the goods of the deade reconinges accountes or such like the rather because hee is neither in the eight neither hath any dominion therein nor beholdeth Mars the Lorde of the cuspe of the same for Leo and Pisces no way beholde the one the other And whereas he threatneth thorow the influence of Saturne vprores tumultes manyfolde troubles violence and oppression he greatly mistaketh the matter for that they are rather the effects of the outragious fell and furious Planet Mars who in the coniunction hath little or nothing to doe But if therevpon hee had threatned hunger want penurie and pouertie vnto the poore and indigent his prediction had not been vnlike to haue taken effect for that their estate is neuer better and why he should discomfort the Clergie or Ecclesiasticall estate I sée no cause considering that Iupiter their generall significator as also Dominus 9. of the figure is so strong and well affected both in himselfe and his essentiall dignities eleuated aboue the rest and also small reason he hath to mooue him to pronounce the ruine and ouerthrow of Noble men great personages and gentlemen though some and sundry from time to time fall into like extremities and bee ouerthrowne with the losse of estimation goodes and lyfe by the secret working of their owne pryuate natiuities without anye generall constitution But were it so that Saturne as he sayth hee is were disposed to woorke straunge feates or to bring greate matters about yea and that his might were so much and his malice so great as to shew the ful force of his mischieuous and malicious nature seeking to bring vpon the world Plague pestilence famine and other calamities whatsoeuer which haue at any tyme since the creation thereof hapned for the punishment of sinne yet could he not at this present play these pageāts beeing otherwise brydled and restrayned of his will for that he is neither Lorde of the coniunction neither hath dominion in the reuolution of the yeare nor ought to doe in the gouernement of the greate Orbe or anye commertion with those who haue authoritie therein Therefore if any alteration extraordinary happen in the yeares following different from the others past it must of necessitie rise and proceed of some more farther cause then any alleadged in al the whole Astrologicall discourse for as much as there is not anye one Maxime therein alleadged that may not seeme Puerile quiddam not woorth the hazarding of any small credite in Astrology that hath beene already purchased els how can one loose that he neuer had And for the better proofe of these my spéeches consider what is by him alleadged Iupiter on whom some part of the charge is layd shall begin to shrincke the tenth of Iuly and goe backward whereby his influence shoulde bee hindred which is nothing materiall For why the combat the coniunction I meane being fought past long before it is requisite that the combattants doe retire and repose them selues in aray returning backe from whence they came which well they may do without any kind of impeachment or discredit in this respect Besides it is a passion which hapneth vnto them euery yeare once which they can not possibly auoyde Then to thinke or bee perswaded that Saturne Iupiter or any other of the Errones can be or shall be these fiue or sixe yeares next ensuing eyther oftener retrograde then heretofore they haue beene or than commonly they vse to bee is moste absurde chieldish and argueth that whosoeuer is of that opinion can be but a simple Astrologian not seene at all in the Theory of the Planettes nor well acquainted with Copernicus his Hypotheses Rein●olts obseruations or Pe●rbachius Forasmuch as it is a position or rule infallible that a Planet cannot passe by his first station aboue once while hee maketh his reuolution in his epicicle by it he must of necessity once passe and the tempus periodicum of his reuolution is certain constant and without alteration Wherefore if hee euer see Saturne oftener retrograde then once in twelue moneths and eighteen daies menses solares I mean or Iupiter in 13. moneths and 9. dayes Mars in 3. years and 2. moneths Venus in one yeare 7. monethes and 14. dayes Mercury in 3. moneths 26. dayes or if he can find that they escape retrogradation in any of those prescribed times then let me loose the credite of mine Astrology vnlesse it please the almighty to work miracles more in these 6. yeares following thē in 1600. yeres heretofore and were his meaning no lesse yet were it doubtfull whether the authour of the Astrological discourse were a consilijs illius and priuie to his intent But admit it were as he saith that they were oftner retro grade then in times past and that which is more then so that the sun stood stil or went backward contrary to his naturall motion yet were it no argument thervpon to inferre the dissolution of the world or ende of the same considering that in the time of Iosua the Sunne stoode still and in the tyme of Ezechias the Sunne went backe and the world notwithstanding continuing after the space of sixtéene hundred yeres and not so