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it_o remain_v in_o the_o emperor_n and_o that_o which_o he_o attribute_v to_o the_o pope_n every_o child_n will_v see_v how_o different_a it_o be_v from_o the_o monarchy_n of_o the_o roman_n and_o how_o small_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v if_o you_o take_v away_o his_o spiritual_a authority_n which_o no_o doubt_n be_v the_o great_a upon_o earth_n but_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o temporal_a power_n of_o which_o these_o father_n speak_v now_o how_o the_o pope_n be_v lord_n of_o the_o whole_a earth_n and_o how_o he_o dispose_v of_o the_o new_a find_v world_n we_o shall_v examine_v at_o large_a in_o the_o second_o part_n and_o how_o the_o government_n of_o rome_n belong_v not_o to_o antichrist_n in_o who_o time_n it_o shall_v be_v destroy_v as_o neither_o the_o 2._o beast_n apoc._n 13._o nor_o the_o 7._o head_n apoc._n 17._o to_o the_o pope_n have_v be_v already_o sufficient_o declare_v 15._o to_o the_o 4._o argument_n m._n downam_n answer_v nothing_o army_n antichrist_n shall_v persecute_v the_o christian_n through_o the_o whole_a world_n with_o a_o innumerable_a army_n which_o bellarmine_n himself_o have_v not_o confute_v at_o large_a in_o his_o discourse_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n which_o m._n downam_n whole_o omit_v under_o pretext_n of_o not_o trouble_v his_o reader_n but_o indeed_o because_o he_o will_v not_o discover_v his_o own_o shame_n for_o otherwise_o at_o least_o he_o may_v have_v answer_v to_o so_o much_o of_o it_o as_o make_v against_o himself_o the_o like_a deceit_n he_o use_v in_o pass_v over_o bellarmine_n answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n objection_n or_o argument_n whereby_o they_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v the_o pope_n antichrist_n because_o he_o see_v that_o they_o contain_v in_o effect_n a_o answer_n to_o his_o former_a book_n but_o i_o may_v not_o omit_v either_o that_o so_o the_o reader_n may_v judge_v how_o well_o m._n downam_n have_v clear_v they_o in_o his_o former_a book_n of_o which_o he_o seem_v himself_o to_o make_v some_o doubt_n by_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o we_o be_v not_o whether_o every_o argument_n that_o have_v be_v produce_v by_o every_o one_o do_v necessary_o conclude_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v antichrist_n and_o that_o that_o discourse_n be_v rather_o personal_a then_o real_a and_o therefore_o he_o let_v it_o pass_v the_o seavententh_n chapter_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n wherefore_o the_o first_o opinion_n or_o rather_o error_n say_v bellarmine_n be_v of_o the_o jew_n who_o teach_v that_o gog_n be_v antichrist_n &_o magog_n innumerable_a scythian_a nation_n which_o lurk_v within_o the_o caspian_a mountain_n and_o that_o antichrist_n shall_v come_v with_o magog_n that_o be_v with_o a_o army_n of_o scythian_n at_o the_o same_o time_n that_o the_o messiah_n shall_v first_o appear_v in_o jerusalem_n and_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o battle_n fight_v in_o palestine_n and_o such_o a_o overthrow_n in_o the_o army_n of_o gog_n that_o for_o 7._o year_n the_o jew_n shall_v not_o cut_v any_o wood_n from_o tree_n to_o make_v fire_n withal_o but_o shall_v burn_v the_o spear_n buckler_n and_o other_o weapon_n which_o shall_v be_v find_v with_o the_o dead_a body_n and_o that_o afterward_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o golden_a world_n etc._n etc._n s._n hierome_n relate_v this_o opinion_n in_o cap._n 38._o ezech._n and_o petrus_n galatinus_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 12._o cont_n judaeos_fw-la and_o rabbi_n david_n kimhi_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o psalm_n in_o many_o place_n but_o the_o jew_n err_v in_o two_o thing_n first_o that_o they_o think_v the_o battle_n of_o gog_n &_o magog_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o first_o come_v of_o christ_n confound_v the_o first_o with_o the_o second_o whereas_o notwithstanding_o the_o scripture_n plain_o teach_v that_o christ_n in_o his_o first_o come_n be_v to_o come_v in_o humility_n and_o as_o a_o meek_a sheep_n to_o be_v sacrifice_v as_o it_o be_v manifest_a isa_n 53._o and_o in_o other_o place_n second_o in_o that_o they_o think_v that_o 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good_a shall_v go_v into_o everlasting_a life_n and_o all_o the_o evil_a into_o everlasting_a fire_n and_o therefore_o that_o afterward_o there_o shall_v not_o be_v another_o thousand_o year_n nor_o ever_o after_o any_o more_o battle_n the_o three_o opinion_n be_v of_o eusebius_n who_o lib_n 9_o demonst_a euang._n cap._n 3._o think_v that_o gog_n be_v the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o magog_n his_o empire_n but_o he_o build_v upon_o a_o false_a foundation_n for_o he_o deduce_v this_o opinion_n ouâ—_n of_o numb_a 24._o where_n according_a to_o the_o translation_n of_o the_o 70._o we_o read_v the_o kingdom_n of_o gog_n shall_v be_v extol_v and_o his_o kingdom_n shall_v be_v increase_v god_n have_v bring_v he_o out_o of_o egypt_n etc._n etc._n where_o the_o scripture_n seem_v to_o say_v thaâ—_n when_o christ_n shall_v return_v out_o oâ—_n egypt_n in_o his_o infancy_n
yet_o the_o kingdom_n in_o his_o exposition_n be_v signify_v by_o the_o four_o beast_n and_o iron_n leg_n and_o the_o king_n by_o the_o 10._o horn_n and_o 10._o toe_n and_o be_v not_o m._n downam_n a_o wise_a man_n think_v you_o to_o confirm_v one_o absurdity_n with_o another_o far_o great_a and_o which_o he_o know_v his_o adversary_n will_v much_o less_o grant_v then_o that_o great_a downam_n childish_o confirm_v one_o absurdity_n with_o another_o far_o great_a which_o he_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v beside_o that_o this_o devise_n be_v so_o foolish_a that_o every_o child_n will_v laugh_v at_o m._n downam_n for_o it_o for_o who_o see_v not_o that_o the_o king_n succeed_v not_o his_o kingdom_n as_o the_o ten_o toe_n do_v the_o iron_n leg_n and_o the_o ten_o horn_n by_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n the_o 4._o beast_n but_o must_v of_o force_n be_v unite_v together_o except_o we_o will_v make_v the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o seleucidae_n and_o lagidae_n or_o of_o the_o 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