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A66855 A declaration to the Baptists concerning the name of the Lord, and what it is to be baptized thereinto, and the nature of the Lord, and what it is to be made partaker thereof : and sheweth that none can be saved, but such as are baptized into the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, into which name and nature, the apostles were sent to baptize, and not into water : shewing also, that the apostles were made the administrators of the Spirits baptism ... : also a discovery of the Baptists foundation ... / written by one who was sometimes one with them in the shadows ... but have now found the day wherein the shadows flee away, and hath received another name besides Humphry Wollrich. Wollrich, Humphry, 1633?-1707. 1659 (1659) Wing W3290; ESTC R39137 27,678 39

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is committed but this is your day and the power of darknesse and the regin of the Lord and the day of the Lord which ye so much talk of shall come hereafter you shall then hide your selves in the dens of the earth and cave of the earth and the mountains shall you desire to fall upon you and the hills to cover you from the presence of the Lamb that sitteth upon the throne and this day to you shall be as you may read Amos 5. a wofull day and a day of darknesse and not light as if a man did flee from a Lion and a Bear met him or went into the house and leaned his hand on the wall and a Serpent bit him vers 8 2 but as I said before to you even judgement which ye have turned back let that run down as waters and righteousnesse as a mighty stream But you have borne the tabernacle of Molock and Chion your images the star of your God which you make to your selves and so Christs personal reign which ye are speaking of and expecting and gazing after without as the men of Galilee were shall be upon you and unto you the day of the Lords controversie the day of the Lords vengeance and a time of the Lords controversie unto you and upon you who are not led by the light of the Lord the spirit of the Lord and that none may say that I accuse you falsly and so condemn you you being innocent read a book of Henry Haggers and a book of John Gosnels entituled a discourse of the Baptisme of the water and of the spirit page the 38. Where in plain words he setteth up the water above the Name of the Lord and there he confesseth as Ephesians 4.5 That there is but one Baptism to speak properly which is Baptism of water and the other two are but figurative and metaphorical and thus you may see that ye blinds Baptists are calling water-Baptism which Peter in his first Epistle 3. ●1 calleth but a figure and the one Baptism and the only one that Christ sent his Apostles to Baptize into which is into the Name of the Father of the Son and of the Holy Spirit which ye may read Math. 28.19 20. This he calleth figurative and metaphorical and so he setteth up the figure in stead of the body and life of all figures and shadowes and John saith who was in the figure I indeed Baptize with water I must decrease but he that cometh after me is preferred before me he must increase who shall Baptize with the Holy Ghost and with fire and Paul 1 Cor. 12. That by one Spirit whether Jew or Gentile Bond or Free they were all Bapti●ed into one Body and was all made to drink into one Spirit and this John Gosnel calls the figure even the Name of the Lord and water which was a figure thereof he setteth up above and Henry Hagger in his Book he saith the Scripture is the ingrafted Word and able to make a man Wise to Salvation and throughly to furn●sh a man to every good work and in a Dispute in Stafford-Shire he said it were sufficient that he were saved by the water and he told me that the Letter was the Word of God and the Judger and Tryer of spirits and this in the presence and fear of the Lord God I charge upon you al who are of this perswasion to be guilty of Blasphemy doctrine of Devils and to deny the Lord that bought you and to be in the many bodies and many heads and seeing with the many eyes of the Beast and to have the many names of Blasphemy but know not the one Name nor the one Head neither the Baptism into the one Body and Name whereby man can be saved read and understand Acts ● 12 Neither is there Salvation in any other for there is no other Name under Heaven given amongst men whereby we must be saved but the Name which is set at naught by you builders and become a stumbling stone and a Rock of offence but unto us that believe he is precious and a tryed stone and the power of God to Salvation and with him and by him we deny all your shadows and all your figures and all your washings which makes nothing perfect and those which the Scriptures own we deny not any one of them as the brazen Serpent offerings and Circumcision and Baptism all of which had a beginning and were imposed but till the time of a through Reformation 1 Pet. 4.7 and makes nothing perfect but all were to end and do end in him who is the bringer in of the better hope and is not made after the Law of a carnal commandment but after the power of an Endless life Heb. 7. Heb. 9.9 And perfects for ever them that are sanctified and makes peace and keeps in peace all that believe in him and takes away sin as pertaining to the Conscience and so comes the Mystery of Faith to be witnessed to be held in a pure Conscience which Faith I charge upon you to bee Reprobates concerning let your prayers and professions be what they will as Jeremy Ives and William Answorth two of your chief Teachers have denied the Faith which is the Gift of God and calls it the creatures Act which is contrary to the Scriptures 1 Cor. 12.9 Jude 3. Contend for the Faith that once was delivered or given to the Saints and all your faith in general which gives you not power over all sin but in it you can be pleading for and Disputing for sin and say none can be perfect in this life We Rank you altogether and by the power of the Lord we judge you altogether to be Reprobates concerning the faith read Acts 15. and John 9.1 and 3.2 3. to the tenth and your hope is but the hope of the hypocrite which doth not purifie you as Christ is pure but this must needs be so with you who are in your own works and faith which makes nothing perfect and say faith is not the gift of God but an act of the creatures which must needs be imperfect for James saith that every good and perfect gift is from above and cometh down from the Father of Lights James 1.7 With whom is no variableness neither shadow of turning but you that are in the shadows and out of the Light and are in the Errour concerning the Faith verse 16. and are reprobated from the Faith which is the gift of God and was once given unto the Saints Jud. 3. And this was held forth at a meeting by one William Answorth Robert Ward and several others of the Baptist teachers at Henry Smiths at Wythcock in Leicester-Shire upon the twentyseventh day of the twelfth moneth called February in the year of Account 1658. Before a great number of people with many other Blasphemous doctrines a few of the witnesses their names are here written FRANCIS CREEK WILLIAM ATTON WILLIAM SLYEE WILLIAM SMITH JOSEPH HOULT
MARGERET BEEBY THOMAS HARVEY ISABEL HACKER ANd because you may not say that I wrong you in saying that you have set up Shadows Types and Figures above the Life and Substance which is Christ and visible carnal perishing things above the Invisible unchangeable Word of the Lord which endures for ever I shall here set down a few of your principal Doctrines by which ye Judge the principals of Christ and they that are found therein to be Apostates and deceivers which I shall here mention and answer something thereunto and so leave it to Gods witness in ye all to Judge whether you are deceivers and Apostates or we And I am troubled for you all my heart is broken for you all who are hardning your selves against the Lord and like the Jewes have painted your selves as the Jewes did who were the greatest enemies of the Lord when he came and I am pained at my very heart for you all and my life bears the Iniquitie of many and I am pressed as a Cart is pressed that is full of sheaves for your mountain is exalted above the Lord and great is the oppression of the Holy seed read and understand Isa 53.5 4. Psal 11.4 The sorrows of death compass me the floods of ungodly men made me afraid the sorrows of Hell compass me about the snares of death prevented me verse 11. He made thick darkness his secret place and his pavillion round about were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies the Lord also thundreth in the Heavens and the Highest gave his voice hail-stones and coals of fire ye he sent out his Arrows and scattered them then the Channels of water were seen and the foundations of the World were discovered read Iames 3.6 If you have an ear to hear what the Spirit saith at the rebuke of the Lord at the blast of the breath of his nostrils he sent from above and took me he drew me out of many waters he delivered me from my strong enemy and from them which hated me for they were too strong for me he brought me forth also into a large place he delivered me because he dilighted in me verse the 18. and 19. Your first principle is this held forth at that dispute 1. That faith is an act of the creatures and not Gods gift But because I have spoken something to this already I shall add these Scriptures for the Reader and leave it Ephisians 2 8 and 1 Cor. 12.9 And all our righteousnesses is as filthy rages but the Lord worketh all our works in us and for us and what is not of faith is sin 2. That a wicked man whilest a wicked m●n is justified by Christ and hath accesse unto and may freely lay hold upon all the merits of Christ Ans To which I say you are they which justifie your selves being wicked and out of the faith which should purifie your hearts and seek to be justified by Christ while your selves are found sinners and so would make Christ as you are Ministers of sin Galathians 2.17 But he that justifieth the wicked and he that condemneth the righteous as ye do even they are both an abominateon to the Lord Prov 17.15 3. That the Bible was the life of their souls and comfort of their souls Ans To this I say miserable are you and miserable are all your comforters who have set up another comforter then the consolation of Israel and the comforts of God and the consolations of God are small in you read John 14 16 17. And saith Christ I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever even the spirit of truth whom the World cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but you know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you I will not leave you comfortlesse I will come unto you William Ainsworth did affirm and John Brown likewise at his fathers house that Paul in baptising with water and not by commission was wicked and acted wickedly therein Ans First I shall prove what I there then did affirm That Paul was not sent to Baptize neither was his commission to Baptize with water but into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost as you may read Mat. 28. Though Iohn Gosnel be so blind who is one of your chief Teachers in the first page of his book saith it is with water and saith it is not the Baptisme of the spirit but if you will believe John Gosnel rather then the Scriptures which you say is your rule Let it be upon your own heads for ever Secondly I shall prove they did Baptize with Water by permission and not by commission if you can either believe Paul or the Scriptures 1 Cor. 1.14 I thank God I baptized none of you but Crispus and Gaius and I Baptized also the house of Stephanus and I know not whether I baptized any other and this he saith is the reason and ground vers 17. for Christ sent me not to Baptize but to preach the Gospel and I say he did this and many other things by permission as you may read Acts 16.3 where he circumcised Timothy that he might gain and bring some to the true circumcision and one Baptisme Acts 21.24 Where Paul shaved his head and all this was by permission and not by command And I leave it upon you to prove that he acted wickedly therein and so you may see that those things which you are making your foundation and setting up above the Name of the Lord could be done or left undone by them who were guided by the spirit of the Lord and all was to gain some unto the Lord and bring them into the one Baptism which is by one spirit into the Name of the Lord 1 Cor. 12 yet I do not deny water Baptism nor John who had a commission to Baptize with water in their time and in their place for I do believe and know it was a ●ommand of God and they that rejected it rejected the counsel of God in not being baptized with water of John But John saith of himself I indeed Baptize you with water unto repentance I must decrease and he must encrease who baptizeth with the Holy Ghost and fire and you do not read in all the Scriptures that John was sent into all nations but he came preaching the doctrine of Baptisme and repentance in the Wildernesse of Iudea and to the people of Israel but he who was to encrease was found by Iohns Disciples then they left John and followed Jesus and said they had found him whom Moses and the Prophets wrote of Jesus of Nazereth the Son of Ioseph Iohn 1.37.41.45 And herein did the friend of the Bride-groom rejoyce even when he heard of the encrease of the Bridegroom But Christ Mat. 28.18 came and spake unto his Disciples saying all power is given unto me in Heaven and in earth Go ye therefore and teach all Nations Baptising them in