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A67444
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P. W's reply to the person of quality's answer dedicated to His Grace, the Duke of Ormond.
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Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.
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murthers and be they as numerous too as he will have them committed by a very few of the rude rabble amongst the Irish are not only not unparalleld in Histories of former ages and Pag. 93. other Countries and by very many instances but not even in the History of our own days or that of England since the prodigious murther committed on the Scaffold at Whitehall by those that shaked hands all along with this Gentleman's Clyents And that all those Irish murthers even quintessenced into one have been unquestionably not so little hainous comparatively as parallel'd but even as overparallel'd by that only one yea had the Actors in it committed no more as yet they are known to have ten thousand before and after And I must affirm that although it be confessedly true that no zeal in Religion can apologize for the sins either Personal or National of my Countrymen as neither if not rather much less for those yet more hideous and more abominable crimes of some of this Person of Quality's Brethren yet both he and I too if Christians if rational men cannot but affirm also That a Godly repentance with all due circumstances of it according to the Religion and Faith of God taught us in the Word of God may for the time to come hinder the effects of Gods Justice on my Countrymen even those very effects which this Person of Quality wisheth from his very Soul I am sure that no Pag. 93. godliness may hinder and which he no less positively denounces than if he had the mercy of God in his power and the knowledge of Gods decrees or of all future contingencies reveal'd to him But he is neither a Prophet nor the Son of a Prophet if I may guess And what ever he be 't is like he hath neither the Mercy nor the Justice and power of God at his devotion more nor the knowledge of Gods eternal or temporary pleasure concerning my Countrymen more certainly revealed to him than the Prophet Jonas had all of them together in relation to the Ninivites And therefore notwithstanding this Gentleman's prediction here of or against the Irish be so positive so absolute an assertion of the effects of Gods Justice to fall upon them hereafter viz. in his conception and according to his affection the loss of all their Lands for ever and the transplanting of them all from one end of the borders of Egypt to the other end thereof as presently you shall see in his Conclusion yet he must grant me that this prediction of his can be no more infallible than that of Jonas Adhuc quadraginta dies Ninive Jon. 3 Ch. V. 4. subvertetur yet forty dayes and Ninive shall be overthrown And we know this prediction of Jonas the very Prophet of God yea preached by the very command of God himself was notwithstanding falsified and Ninive saved then from V. 7 8 9 10. any such or other Judgement threatned by the Prophet because the Ninivites humbled themselves truly before God and with faith and hope cryed unto him for mercy And I believe my Countrymen may imitate them and hope they will As for his occasional assertion That to do evil that good Pag. 93. may come of it may be the Doctrine of Rome no Romanist I am certain will ever allow Nor can he charge any of all their Communion with that wicked Maxim in any kind of sense that may not be returned on himself again with very much disadvantage to his party For if he say for example that some Papist writers teach that Subjects may rebel against the Soveraign power to the end that Religion may be restored or preserved and therefore teach to doe evil that good may come of it Rebellion questionless being a very great evil in it self and true Religion as great a good I would fain know whether his own Religious Clients have not in a thousand Pamphlets and ten thousand Pulpits and for 20. years compleat maintained that un-catholick wicked sinful Position against the Laws of God Nâ—tâ—ral and Positive and against the Laws of Man Civil and Ecclesiastical And whether they have not all that while taught all of them and practiced too a most impious Rebellion partly to introduce the very worst Religion in the World and partly to have none at all Nay whether they have not taught and practiced also that infernal Doctrine of meer design first to ruine Monarchy and then Prelacy and after these Magistracy and Ministery both in general could they drive on their design and so devour the Tythes and then pull down the Steeple-houses for so the Saints did name all Churches and in a word set Hell wide open upon the face of the Earth and make themselves the sole Masters of it yea absolute Lords of all the good things in it of all other mens fortunes and lives too and at their own pleasure wash their hands in the blood of the wicked as they term all honest men because not of their cabal And if this Doctrine and this Practice be not incomparably worse than that which though wickedly teacheth by word or example to do evill that good may come of it nay if it lead not by the hand to do many great evills that many other yet farr greater yea all imaginable evills in the world may follow I understand nothing at all by this word evill But if such Diabolical Maxims and Practices flow naturally from the Doctrine of Geneva Rome needs not blush hereafter not even for the most unchristian Maxims charg'd hitherto though falsely upon her And since by the fruit the tree is best known what will our Person of Quality think of his own tree that bears abundance continually of so evill so deadly poysonous fruit Or will not he think of it as our Saviour did foretelling in general what would become of all such Omnis arbor quae non facit fructum bonum excidetur Mat. 7. in ignem mittetur Math. 7. Nay will not he think that if by our Saviours prediction or judgement Every tree that bears not good fruit shall be cut down and thrown into the fire those that bear so evill even the most evill fruit conceiveable are by the jâ—stice of God reserved for such a fire as ever shall burn and never consume throughly but alwayes reserve them for new punishment unless they timely change their Nature and receive Siens of Grace inoculated on the old wicked stock 171. Albeit I have no cause to quarrel at the first part of this Gentleman's Conclusion of his Book or of his concluding Wish That his Grace the Duke of Ormond may be as another Pag. 93. Joseph to his Brethren being it is and was my own Wish in the perclose of that Letter so diligently commented upon by this Person of Quality and so just and so good a Wish too as by his confession drew the hearts of the Protestants of Ireland to close with desiring that his Grace may