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A03325 An ansvvere to master William Perkins, concerning Christs descension into Hell: By John Higins Higins, John, controversialist.; Higgins, John, fl. 1570-1602, attributed name. 1602 (1602) STC 13442; ESTC S117336 17,085 58

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they did not acknowledge any real descent And the true meaning of these wordes hee descended into hell was sufficiently included in some of the former and that may appeare because when they set downe it they omitte some of the former As Athanasius in his Creed setting downe these wordes he descended into hel omittes the buriall putting thē both for one as hee expoundeth himselfe els where Nowe let vs see the reasons which may be alleadged to the contrary Ob. 1 Mat. 12. 40. The sonne of man must bee three daies and three nightes in the hart of the earth that is in hell Answer 1. This exposition is directly against the scope of the place For the Pharises desired to see a signe that is some sensible and manifest miracle And heereunto Christ answered that hee woulde giue them the signe of the prophet Jonas which cannot bee the descent of his soule into the place of the damned because it was insensible but rather of his buriall and after it his glorious ascension IOHN HIGINS Of Ancient Councels c. omitting of causes we spake pag. 1. in ●C they could not but beleeue that which the spirit of God foretolde the Son of God pe●formed and the same sprit witnessed to be fulfilled Now to say that he descended into hell was sufficiently included in some of the former this cannot be for the former he was curcified dead and buried are of passiō but these latter he descended into hell he rose againe the third day hee ascended into heaven are mere actions of Christ secluded frō those not included in them Athanasius saith he descended into hel He is not against it Chrysostome saith he descended into hell that there also he might not be voide of a miracle He is not against it Now let vs see the scriptures which proue the descenision The evill and adulterous generation requests a signe but a signe shall not be given vnto it vnlesse the signe of the Prophet Ionas For as Ionas vvas 3. dares and 3. nightes in the whales belly so shall the sonne of man bee 3. daies and three nights in the heart of the earth that is in hell These places of the Gospel are plain Wherein by the signe of Ionas in the whales belly Iesus fore-sheweth his owne descension into hell For the evil adulterous generatiō the Phareses and Saduces tempting him required a signe from heaven and therefore Iesus gaue them no signe frō heaven but a signe in hel WILLIAM PERKINS The second Answere The hart of the earth may as well signifie the graue as the center of the earth For Tyrus bordering vpon the sea is saide to be in the heart of the seas The third answere This exposition takes it for graunted that hell is seated in the middle of the earth Wheras the Scriptures reveale no such thing but this that hell is in the lower partes but where those lower parts be no man is able to define The 2. obiectiō Act. 2. 27. thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell neither vvilt thou suffer thine holy one to see corruption These words cannot proue any local descent of Christs Soule For Peters drift in all eadging this is to proue the resurrection and hee saith expressely that the words must be vnderstoode of the resurrection of Christ What namely these wordes that his soule was not left in hell Nowe there is no resurrection of the soule but of the body only as the soule cannot be saide to fall but the body IOHN HIGINS The heart of the earth may as well signifie hell as it may signifie the midle or center of the earth For Tyrus being an Iland foure furlongs or seavē hundred pases from the land was therfore saide of God to haue her limites in the heart or middle of the seas Again the proud king therof said I am God I sit in the throne of God in the hart or middle of the seas These words of Christ for as Ionas was 3. daies c. so shall the Son of man be 3. daies 3. nights in the hart of the earth giue vs to vnderstand where hell is sited they reveale the place in question But if hel the graue the hart of the earth be alone they which site hell so shallow the graue so deepe confound the he●l of the Damned and the graues of the blessed togither This prophecy thou vvilt not leaue my soule in hell neither suffer thine holy one to see corruption was one of al those things of which Christ said it behooved all things to be fulfilled which are written of me in the Lawe of Moses and in the Prophets and in the Psalmes And if this Prophesie proue not the Local discēsion of Christs soule by reason it cōfirms it in faith because Christ saide it behooved all things to bee fulfilled c. Peter is plaine he saith David foreseing spake of the resurrectiō of Christ for why his soule was not left in hel neither saw his flesh corruption If your translation or exposition bee true thou wilt not leaue my soul in graue then the person or the soule of Christ is risen or els Christ is not risen And for your fall I aske first whether it may be said that christs body fel into the graue secondly whether if it fel not but was buried therein it may not yet be said to haue risen thirdly whether Christ rose without a soule because it fell not into the graue For many bodies of Saintes arose which fell not neither did they arise without soules which soules yet fell not into the granes So I say if nōe arise at the last day but the bodies of them which fell there wil be a very small resurrectiō in respect of the whole number of the departed WILLIAM PERKINS It will be replied that the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i soule cannot signifie the body And the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i hell cannot signifie the graue The first word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifies not only the spiritual parte of man i the soule but also the whole person or the man himselfe Rom. 13. 1. 1. Cor. 15. 45. And the second word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is aswel taken for the graue as for hell Apoc. 20. 14. Death and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 are cast into the lake of fire Now we cannot say that hel is cast into hell but the graue into hell And the very same worde 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in this text must needes haue this sense i. his soule or person was not left in graue For Peter makes an opposition betweene the graue into which David is shut vp the hell out of which Christ was delivered verse 29. 31. IOHN HIGINS The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. soule in these places alleadged Act. 2. 27. 31. cannot signifie the body of Christ as shal appeare in this page And the
word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. hell cannot signifie the graue tombe monument or sepulcher of a dead body This graue is not found in al the scriptures The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. soule sometimes signifies the whole person the man a liue as in these places and there vvere added that day about three thousand soules let every soule submitte it selfe to the authority of the higher povvers the first man Adam vvas made a living soule these were not whole persons of dead men buried but Christians newly converted and Romane subiects aliue So Adam was made a living soule but he was not so buried the whole person so signified by 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 was not buried in hell If it were then by these texts to day shalt thou be vvith mee in Paradise thou wilt not leaue my person in hell and his soule was not left in graue the whole person was in Paradise in hell in the graue the same day that hee was buried The second word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hel is not taken for the graue or toomb of the dead the text truely translated is thus death and hell vvere sent into the lake of fire this is the second death And whosoever was not founde vvritten in the booke of life was sent into the lake of fire That is the Devil and his Angels the wicked were sent into everlasting fire as in Mat. 25. 41. Christ doth p●ainly shew but the prophet heere speaketh it more dar●kly Also if your speach heere bee true that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is as well taken for the graue as for hell then this translation is tollerable And the rich man died and was buried and in the graue lifting vp his eies being in tormentes for saith he I am tormented in this flame You first cast the graue into hel and nowe you site the Paradi●'de soule in the graue Peter makes an opposition between the dead entombed body of David not risen and the humane nature of Christ risen affirming that David prophecied thereof long before And saith his soule was not left in hel as you here translate 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hel and not graue VVill. Perkins Againe it wil be said that in this text there be two distinct partes the first of the soules comming foorth of hell in these words thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell And the second of the body rising out of the graue in the next words following Neither wilt thou suffer my flesh to see corruption It is not so For the flesh in this place signifieth not the body alone but the humane nature of Christ as appeareth Act. 2. verse 30. vnlesse wee shall say that one the same worde in the same sentence is taken two waies flesh you meane in the 30. and in the 31. verses And the words rather cary this sense thou wilt not suffer me to cōtinue long in the grane nay which is more in the time of my cōtinuance there thou wilt not suffer me so much as to see corruption because I am thy holy one JOHN HIGINS Here in the Psalm 16. 10. Thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell neither vvilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption the two parts places of Christs humanity are plainly distinguished a sunder So also Peter interpreteth Act. 2. 31. and so Fulgentius bringeth these places distinguished against the Ar●ians expounding them of the soule and flesh apart In the first 30. verse Peter explaines a Prophecy of the regall humane generation of Christ thus he then that is David sith he was a Prophet and knewe that God had sworn vnto him by an othe of the fruit of his loines according to the flesh to raise vp the Christ that he might place him on his seate Here the Apostle addeth according to the flesh to distinguish and to tell vs that the soule is not ex traduce but that the flesh it be of different natures which immediatly after expounding the other prophecy he clearely explaines thus 31. vers David foreseeing spake of the resurrection of Christ that his soule was not le●t in hell neither did his flesh see corruption There in the 30. vers Peter spake of the flesh not of the soule generated and here in the 31. of the flesh of the soul seperated by death In both yet by flesh meaning one the same flesh of christ S. Peters words are of credit enough a rather carriage of sēse comes to late WIL. PERKINS Obiect 3. Christ was quickned in the spirit by the which spirit he went preached vnto the spirits which are in prisō Answere This place is not for this purpose for by the spirit is not meant the soule of Christ but his godhead which in the ministery of Noe preached repentance to the old world And I thinke that Peter in this place alludes to another in Genesis 6. 3. where the Lord saith my spirit shall not alwaies striue vvith man because hee is but flesh And if the spirit do signifie the soule then Christ was quickened in his soule or by his soule but neither is true IOHN HIGINS We must not alledge nor take the text lamely It is thus for Christ once suffered for sins the iust for the vniust that he might bring vs to God hee vvas mortified in the flesh but was quickened in the spirite in which spirite hee vvent and preached vnto the spirites vvhich are in prison Heere is the suffering of Christ his death immortality of soule with the descension therof and as Ruffinus saith what worke it did in hell And therfore this place is pregnant for the descension For by the spirite is mēt the soule of Christ not his godhead as you say For then your texte should be thus Christ was quickened in the godhead by which godhead hee went and preached to the spirites which are in prison which you said in Noe preached to the old world But this cannot be it was after Christes mortification in the flesh not in the olde world but in that which is nowe That which is saide in Genesis 6. 3. my spirit shall not alwaies contend vvith man because he is but flesh and his daies shall be an hundred twenty yeares was fiftie generations before Christ this in Peter was after Christs death that was in spirit divine this was in the soule humane that was on earth with men in the flesh this was in hel with the spirits of the dead Peter therfore in this place alludes not to that in Genesis Of Christs quickening in the spirite shal be more saide in the next page WIL. PERKINS For the first it cannot be saide that Christ was quickened by his soule because it did not ioyne it selfe vnto the body but the Godhead ioyned thē both Neither was he quickened in soule For the soule died not It could not die