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A65800 Religion and reason mutually corresponding and assisting each other first essay : a reply to the vindicative answer lately publisht against a letter, in which the sence of a bull and council concerning the duration of purgatory was discust / by Thomas White, Gent. White, Thomas, 1593-1676. 1660 (1660) Wing W1840; ESTC R13640 86,576 220

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