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A71279 A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes. R. H., 1609-1678. 1688 (1688) Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619 186,755 234

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doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n nor_o etc._n etc._n have_v grant_v the_o first_o three_o protestant_a concession_n he_o stand_v at_o the_o four_o upon_o a_o pretence_n that_o he_o have_v already_o refute_v the_o authority_n whereon_o it_o be_v found_v which_o be_v untrue_a as_o be_v manifest_v above_o where_o this_o champion_n achievement_n be_v display_v and_o reverse_v and_o beside_o to_o back_o this_o four_o proposition_n new_a authority_n be_v annex_v from_o bishop_n cousin_n archbishop_n bramhal_o and_o mounseur_fw-fr daille_n to_o which_o he_o be_v mute_a retire_v from_o they_o without_o the_o least_o notice_n or_o reflection_n pag._n 94._o l._n 32._o so_o that_o then_o with_o this_o limitation_n his_o 5_o proposition_n that_o the_o lutheran_n adore_v i_o presume_v may_v be_v admit_v etc._n etc._n if_o the_o answerer_n adhere_v to_o what_o he_o concede_v p._n 87.93_o i.e._n in_o the_o first_o supposition_n and_o three_o protestant_n concession_n in_o consequence_n of_o their_o opinion_n they_o all_o ought_v to_o adore_v if_o they_o do_v not_o and_o chemnitius_n agree_v as_o much_o say_v no_o man_n deny_v it_o adoration_n but_o such_o as_o with_o the_o sacramentary_n deny_v or_o doubt_v of_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o supper_n pag._n 95._o l._n 12._o we_o be_v ready_a to_o admit_v it_o the_o 6_o concession_n that_o the_o belief_n of_o a_o real_a presence_n be_v not_o so_o criminal_a as_o to_o oblige_v they_o to_o break_v communion_n always_o suppose_v that_o the_o belief_n of_o it_o have_v not_o be_v press_v etc._n etc._n then_o the_o protestant_n have_v general_o mistake_v their_o business_n in_o spend_v their_o raillery_n hitherto_o not_o on_o the_o mischief_n of_o imposition_n but_o chief_o on_o the_o erroneousness_n of_o our_o tenet_n and_o enormity_n of_o our_o practice_n as_o both_o very_a destructive_a to_o salvation_n and_o dissenter_n do_v well_o to_o insist_v on_o the_o heinousness_n of_o enjoin_v as_o a_o term_n of_o 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catholic_n church_n give_v no_o colour_n for_o a_o schism_n the_o exercise_n of_o her_o authority_n may_v and_o she_o become_v as_o a_o heathen_a or_o a_o publican_n for_o require_v such_o to_o hear_v she_o who_o our_o lord_n have_v declare_v shall_v be_v account_v so_o for_o not_o hear_v she_o and_o she_o must_v either_o relax_v her_o discipline_n enlarge_v or_o contract_v the_o condition_n of_o her_o society_n as_o every_o individual_a shall_v demand_v though_o they_o neither_o think_v nor_o live_v as_o she_o prescribe_v or_o become_v schismatical_a if_o private_a christian_n must_v be_v arbiter_n what_o shall_v or_o shall_v not_o be_v term_n of_o catholic_n communion_n why_o may_v not_o some_o as_o just_o recede_v from_o the_o church_n because_o she_o do_v not_o as_o other_o because_o she_o do_v impose_v term_n whereat_o these_o have_v a_o pique_n and_o wherewith_o those_o be_v please_v the_o novatian_a donatist_n and_o luciferian_a charge_n against_o the_o church_n be_v that_o 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when_o as_o some_o of_o their_o testimony_n affirm_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o bread_n after_o consecration_n to_o be_v change_v ambr._n the_o mist_n init_fw-la c._n 9_o speak_v of_o this_o sacrament_n benedictione_n etiam_fw-la natura_fw-la ipsa_fw-la mutatur_fw-la i._n e._n miraculous_o other_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o bread_n after_o consecration_n to_o remain_v still_o i_o can_v neither_o altogether_o embrace_v the_o answer_n for_o make_v antiquity_n unanimous_a of_o some_o protestant_n to_o the_o first_o that_o by_o the_o change_n of_o nature_n etc._n etc._n be_v mean_v only_o a_o accidental_a change_n of_o its_o now_o sanctify_a condition_n and_o usage_n for_o so_o we_o say_v urge_v dr._n taylor_n p._n 271._o a_o man_n of_o a_o good_a nature_n i._n e._n disposition_n and_o that_o it_o be_v against_o our_o nature_n i._n e._n our_o custom_n and_o affection_n etc._n etc._n see_v the_o like_o concern_v the_o word_n substance_n in_o blondel_n in_o answer_n to_o a_o latin_a father_n p._n 179._o notwithstanding_o what_o dr._n taylor_n say_v p._n 324._o nor_o the_o answer_n of_o some_o romanist_n to_o the_o second_o that_o by_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n remain_v be_v mean_v only_o the_o remain_v of_o the_o natural_a accident_n or_o the_o property_n of_o nature_n or_o species_n or_o natura_fw-la exterior_a not_o interior_a substantia_fw-la tho_o it_o be_v always_o to_o be_v remember_v that_o the_o four_o opinion_n in_o hold_v not_o only_o the_o outward_a appearance_n colour_n and_o figure_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v but_o all_o other_o property_n and_o sensibles_fw-fr thereof_o and_o beside_o these_o all_o the_o operation_n whatsoever_o which_o agree_v to_o the_o substance_n as_o corporal_o nourish_v etc._n etc._n by_o miracle_n to_o remain_v to_o these_o accident_n and_o that_o without_o any_o communication_n unto_o or_o dependence_n upon_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o existent_a by_o themselves_o do_v indeed_o tantum_fw-la non_fw-la hold_v also_o the_o 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33._o i_o proceed_v to_o confirm_v it_o and_o this_o body_n 1._o their_o firm_a change_n of_o element_n to_o christ_n body_n first_o from_o that_o usual_a prayer_n in_o the_o consecration_n of_o these_o element_n in_o all_o liturgy_n and_o missal_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o which_o anon_o ut_fw-la deus_fw-la spiritu_fw-la svo_fw-la dona_fw-la sanctificet_fw-la faciatque_fw-la ea_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la filii_fw-la svi_fw-la blondel_n p._n 469_o confess_v this_o phrase_n not_o only_o in_o the_o modern_a form_n but_o in_o all_o the_o other_o ancient_a liturgy_n c._n 21._o yet_o be_v this_o phrase_n lay_v aside_o in_o the_o form_n of_o the_o reformation_n instead_o of_o which_o our_o english_a have_v these_o word_n hear_v we_o o_o merciful_a father_n and_o grant_v that_o we_o receive_v these_o thy_o creature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n according_a to_o thy_o son_n our_o saviour_n holy_a institution_n in_o remembrance_n of_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n may_v be_v 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uti_fw-la una_fw-la enim_fw-la curo_fw-la domini_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la &_o unus_fw-la calix_fw-la in_o unionem_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la unum_fw-la altar_n &_o unus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la cum_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o other_o in_o ep._n ad_fw-la smyrnaeos_fw-la quid_fw-la enim_fw-la juvat_fw-la i_o quis_fw-la si_fw-la i_o laudat_fw-la dominum_fw-la antem_fw-la meum_fw-la blasphemat_fw-la non_fw-la confitens_fw-la ipsum_fw-la carniferum_fw-la who_o say_v also_o secundum_fw-la videri_fw-la ipsum_fw-la passum_fw-la esse_fw-la before_o this_o afterward_o it_o follow_v ab_fw-la eucharistia_n &_o oratione_fw-la recedunt_fw-la theodoret_n dial_n 3._o quote_v it_o oblatione_fw-la recedunt_fw-la propter_fw-la non_fw-la confiteri_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la carnem_fw-la esse_fw-la salvatoris_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la nostris_fw-la passam_fw-la quam_fw-la benignitate_fw-la pater_fw-la resuscitavit_fw-la contradicentes_fw-la ergo_fw-la huic_fw-la dono_fw-la dei_fw-la perscrutantes_fw-la moriuntur_fw-la conferens_fw-la autem_fw-la esset_fw-la ipsis_fw-la diligere_fw-la ut_fw-la resurgant_fw-la second_o from_o their_o affirm_v such_o a_o change_n of_o the_o element_n as_o be_v miraculous_a miraculous_a in_o such_o a_o manner_n as_o that_o after_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n with_o make_v of_o or_o instead_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n that_o body_n which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o b._n virgin_n some_o of_o they_o at_o least_o affirm_v it_o such_o a_o change_n as_o that_o the_o substance_n or_o nature_n of_o bread_n cease_v to_o be_v and_o say_v that_o our_o sense_n for_o this_o matter_n be_v not_o to_o be_v trust_v in_o who_o be_v find_v also_o some_o of_o the_o modern_a phrase_n of_o the_o catholic_n and_o schoolman_n i_o will_v set_v you_o down_o some_o of_o they_o aquam_fw-la aliquando_fw-la mutavit_fw-la in_o vinum_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o non_fw-la erit_fw-la dignus_fw-la cvi_fw-la credamus_fw-la quod_fw-la vinum_fw-la in_o sanguinem_fw-la transmutavit_fw-la quare_fw-la cum_fw-la omni_fw-la certitudine_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la sumamus_fw-la nam_fw-la sub_fw-la specie_fw-la panis_fw-la datur_fw-la ibi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sub_fw-la specie_fw-la vini_fw-la datur_fw-la sanguis_fw-la cyril_n hieros_n benedictione_n etiam_fw-la natura_fw-la ipsa_fw-la mutatur_fw-la natura_fw-la i.e._n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n sermo_fw-la ergo_fw-la christi_fw-la qui_fw-la potuit_fw-la ex_fw-la nihilo_fw-la facere_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la be_v quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_fw-la id_fw-la mutare_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la non_fw-la minus_fw-la est_fw-la novas_fw-la rebus_fw-la dare_v quam_fw-la mutare_fw-la naturas_fw-la ambr._n sermo_n christi_fw-la immutat_fw-la quando_fw-la vult_fw-la instituta_fw-la naturae_fw-la apply_v to_o the_o eucharist_n as_o if_o something_o in_o nature_n be_v there_o change_v ambr._n de_fw-fr sacr._n l._n 4._o c._n 4._o haec_fw-la tribuit_fw-la virtute_fw-la benedictionis_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la rerum_fw-la quae_fw-la videntur_fw-la i.e._n panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la naturam_fw-la mutans_fw-la greg._n nyss_n invisibilis_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la visibiles_fw-la creaturas_fw-la in_o substantiam_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la verbo_fw-la svo_fw-la secreta_fw-la potestate_fw-la immutat_fw-la ante_fw-la quam_fw-la invocatione_n svi_fw-la nominis_fw-la consecretur_fw-la substantia_fw-la illic_fw-la est_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la post_fw-la verbum_fw-la autem_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la est_fw-la christi_fw-la quid_fw-la mirum_fw-la autem_fw-la si_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la verbo_fw-la creare_fw-la potuit_fw-la possit_fw-la creata_fw-la convertere_fw-la etc._n etc._n caesarius_n arelat_n quote_v by_o blondel_n p._n 69._o ne_fw-la ergo_fw-la consideres_fw-la tanquam_fw-la nudum_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o nudum_fw-la vinum_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la christi_fw-la secundum_fw-la ipsius_fw-la domini_fw-la verba_fw-la quamvis_fw-la enim_fw-la sensus_fw-la hoc_fw-la tibi_fw-la suggerit_fw-la tamen_fw-la fides_fw-la te_fw-la confirmet_fw-la ne_fw-la ex_fw-la gustu_fw-la rem_fw-la judices_fw-la hoc_fw-la sciens_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la certissimo_fw-la habens_fw-la panem_fw-la hunc_fw-la qui_fw-la videtur_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la panem_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la gustus_fw-la panem_fw-la esse_fw-la sentiat_fw-la sed_fw-la esse_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n cyr._n hier._n carech_n 4._o mystag_n here_o observe_v that_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v apply_v not_o only_o to_o the_o receiver_n but_o to_o the_o element_n else_o why_o shall_v the_o father_n press_v the_o mistake_n and_o error_n of_o sense_n about_o the_o element_n for_o what_o protestant_a warn_v his_o scholar_n of_o a_o fallacy_n of_o their_o sense_n in_o the_o eucharist_n chrysost_n in_o mat._n hom._n 83._o credamus_fw-la ubique_fw-la deo_fw-la nec_fw-la repugnemus_fw-la ei_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la sensui_fw-la &_o cogitationi_fw-la nostrae_fw-la absurdum_fw-la esse_fw-la videatur_fw-la quod_fw-la dicit_fw-la quoniam_fw-la ergo_fw-la ille_fw-la dixit_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la etc._n etc._n num_fw-la vides_fw-la panem_fw-la num_fw-la vinum_fw-la num_fw-la sicut_fw-la reliqui_fw-la cibi_fw-la in_o secessum_fw-la vadunt_fw-la absit_fw-la ne_fw-la cogite_n quemadmodum_fw-la enim_fw-la si_fw-la cera_fw-la igni_fw-la adhibita_fw-la illi_fw-la assimilatur_fw-la nihil_fw-la substantiae_fw-la remanet_fw-la nihil_fw-la superfluit_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la puta_fw-la mysteria_fw-la consumi_fw-la corporis_fw-la substantia_fw-la chrys_n hom._n de_fw-fr euch._n in_o encoeniis_fw-la forte_n dicas_fw-la aliud_fw-la video_fw-la quomodo_fw-la tu_fw-la mihi_fw-la asseris_fw-la quod_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la accipiam_fw-la quantis_fw-la probamus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la etc._n etc._n panis_n iste_fw-la panis_fw-la est_fw-la ante_fw-la verba_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la ubi_fw-la accesserit_fw-la consecratio_fw-la de_fw-la pane_fw-la fit_a caro_fw-la christi_fw-la ambr._n beside_o these_o methinks_v two_o passage_n in_o dr._n tailor_n book_n though_o not_o urge_v by_o he_o to_o such_o a_o purpose_n one_o p._n 320._o of_o the_o eutychian_o use_v this_o principle_n or_o argument_n now_o all_o proof_n proceed_v a_o notiori_fw-la ad_fw-la minus_fw-la notum_fw-la that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o bread_n be_v change_v into_o christ_n body_n to_o prove_v that_o so_o the_o human_a nature_n may_v be_v into_o the_o divine_a and_o another_o p._n 343._o of_o averro_n his_o say_n that_o the_o christian_n eat_v their_o god_n do_v show_v that_o a_o
que_fw-fr nous_fw-fr faisons_fw-fr volontier_n piusque_fw-la nous_fw-fr le_fw-fr croions_fw-fr dieu_fw-fr ou_fw-fr adorer_n jesus_n christ_n qui_fw-la est_fw-la present_a au_fw-fr sacrament_n ascavoir_fw-fr par_fw-fr foi_fw-fr dans_fw-fr le_fw-fr coeur_fw-fr des_fw-fr communians_n &_o en_fw-fr mystere_a dans_fw-fr les_fw-fr sign_n come_v la_fw-fr choose_v signifiée_fw-fr est_fw-fr present_n en_fw-fr celle_fw-fr qui_fw-fr la_fw-fr signify_v les_fw-fr peres_n ne_fw-fr disent_fw-fr &_o ne_fw-fr font_n que_fw-fr le_fw-fr second_v &_o ceux_fw-fr de_fw-fr rome_n commandent_fw-la &_o pratiquent_a le_fw-fr premier_fw-fr and_o thus_o rivet_n annot._n &_o animadv_n p._n 92._o in_o answer_n to_o the_o same_o father_n propriam_fw-la adorationem_fw-la deberi_fw-la vero_fw-la christi_fw-la corpori_fw-la quod_fw-la nobis_fw-la est_fw-la nunc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o sola_fw-la ment_fw-la percipiendum_fw-la nemo_fw-la pius_fw-la negabit_fw-la so_o in_o bishop_n andrews_n resp_n ad_fw-la 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therefore_o as_o daille_n grant_v out_o of_o st._n augustine_n apology_n c._n 10._o l'humanite_n de_fw-la jesus_n christ_n est_fw-fr urayement_fw-fr &_o proprement_n adorable_a i_o find_v calvin_n indeed_o somewhat_o boggle_v at_o it_o inst_z l._n 4._o c._n 17._o s_o 35._o where_n bring_v in_o this_o argue_v si_fw-la corpus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o anima_fw-la &_o divinitas_fw-la sint_fw-la una_fw-la cum_fw-la corpore_fw-la quae_fw-la jam_fw-la divelli_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la igitur_fw-la illic_fw-la adorandus_fw-la christus_fw-la he_o say_v primum_fw-la si_fw-la sva_fw-la illa_fw-la quam_fw-la obtendunt_fw-la concomitantia_fw-la ipsis_fw-la negetur_fw-la quid_fw-la facient_fw-la quis_fw-la sanus_fw-la &_o sobrius_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la sibi_fw-la persuadeat_fw-la but_o there_o be_v no_o body_n that_o say_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v christ_n but_o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o since_o his_o passion_n for_o christ_n die_v no_o more_o rom._n 6._o a_o 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