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A10444 The third booke, declaring by examples out of auncient councels, fathers, and later writers, that it is time to beware of M. Iewel by Iohn Rastel ... Rastell, John, 1532-1577. 1566 (1566) STC 20728.5; ESTC S105743 190,636 502

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