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father_n	person_n	son_n	trinity_n	29,255	5	10.2220	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A76706	Gods glory vindicated and blasphemy confuted: being a brief and plain ansvver to that blasphemous book intituled, Twelve arguments against the deity of the Holy Ghost, written by Tho. Bidle Master of Arts, and now burnt by speciall command from the Parliament on Wednesday the 8 of this present September, by the common hangman. Wherein the arguments of the said book are set down together with proper answers thereto. And twelve anti-arguments proving the deity of the Holy Ghost.	Biddle, John, 1615-1662. Twelve arguments drawn out of the Scripture.	1647 (1647)	Wing B2883; Wing G954; Thomason E407_6; ESTC R13062	9,376	12

then the holy ghost is God as the father and the word but saith Iohn there are three that beare record in heaven the father the word and the holy ghost and these three are one Ergo the holy ghost is God 11. Paul saith Thus saith the holy Ghost if ye wil hear his voyce and David saith For he is the Lord our God and we are his people harden not your hearts Heb. 3.7 Psal 95.7 and saith Peter Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1.21 Acts 28.25 and saith Luke It was the Lord God of Israel that spake by the mouth of all his Prophets since the world began Luke 1.68 70. Ergo the holy ghost is the Lord God of Israel 12. Lastly because I will not exceed his number of Arguments if when Ananias lyed to the holy ghost he is said to lye unto God then the holy ghost is God But saith Peter Ananias why hath Satan filled thine heart to lye to the holy ghost thou hast not lyed unto men but unto God Acts 5.3 4. Ergo the holy ghost is God and now I shall briefly Answer Mr Bidles twelve Arguments by which he would prove the contrary First he that is distinguished from God is not God th● holy Spirit is distinguished from God Ergo. To the Majo● 〈…〉 if he should be both God and yet distinguished from God this would imply a contradiction to himself I grant it but let us see his proof that the Spirit of God is distinguished from God and all his proof is this he is called the spirit of God and is sent of God and searcheth the depths of God I Answer to the two first if there were any truth in them it would as well take off the Deity of the Son as of the holy ghost who is cal'd the Son of God and was sent of God Mat. 14.33 Gal. 4.4 and the last cleerly proves him to be God For what creature is able to search the depths of an infinite omnipotent creator but his own Spirit which is God as I have shewed 1 Cor. 2.10 11. But then he saith it is impossible to distinguish the person from the essence of God secondly he saith to distinguish the person from the essence of God were either to make something in him finite or else two infinites thirdly to talk of God taken essentially is ridiculous for none but a person can rule others To these I answer we can distinguish the heat from the light and both from the body of the sun and yet all make but one sun so we can distinguish the actions of the several persons of the God-head as the Father must beget the Son and not the Son beget the Father and the Son to be begotten and the holy ghost to proceed from both and neither to beget nor be begotten unless we should not onely deny the Deity of the holy ghost but also the Deity of the Father and the Son and to the second I say all things in God are infinite yet this doth not make so many infinites as he hath Attributes nor so many infinites as persons in Trinity thirdly to talk of the essence of God is not ridiculous but rather on the contrary it were ridiculous to say that onely the heat or onely the light or onely the body of the sun were usefull and not all three joyntly together so for God to raign personally as Father or as Son and not all three joyntly and essentially but it seems by this that although he said in the letter that he would wave his judgement concerning the Diety of Christ yet he seems to deny the Deity of Christ also and onely allows of a God as the Turks do out of the Trinity and out of Christ His second Argument If he that gave the holy Spirit to the Israelites to instruct them be alone Jehovah then the holy Spirit is not Iehovah or God but saith Nehemiah Thou art Lord alone thou gavest also thy good Spirit to instruct them Nehem. 9.6 20. Now if he that gave the holy Spirit be Jehovah alone and the Spirit given be also Iehovah it would be a contradiction therfore the holy Spirit is not Iehovah or God I Answer first by this Argument he denies the Son as well as the holy ghost and as the Turks allow onely of a God both out of the Trinity and out of Christ Secondly God may give both himself and his Son and his Spirit and yet not degrade himself nor his son nor his Spirit of their God-head when he brings man into covenant with himself Thirdly although it be said thou art God alone yet this is to be understood in the Unity of the Trinity and though the Father be Lord the Son Lord the holy ghost be Lord yet not three Lords but one Lord as I said before the heat is the sun and the light is the sun and the body is the sun and yet not three suns but one sun and although all three be equal yet equalls may one send another by consent and yet not degrade him of his Deity then notwithstanding this Argument the holy ghost is God His third Argument He that speaketh not of himself is not God but when the spirit of truth is come he shall not speak of himself But whatsoever he shall hear that he shall speak John 16.13 I Answer as before in this he denies the God-head of the Son as well as the God-head of the holy ghost for he came not to do his own will but the will of him that sent him John 5 30. Not to be ministred unto but to minister Mat. 20.28 And to do his Fathers business Luk. 2.49 he saith not my wil but thy wil be done Mat. 26 39. yet this word was God Joh. 1.1 For although the Spirit speak not from it self yet this doth not degrade him of his Deity but rather on the contrary this shews it to be God in the Unity of the Trinity which if they were divided then indeed he could not be God although this man without ground or scripture affirms the contrary then although he said he would not shew his judgment touching the Godhead of the Son yet plainly denies it also from many texts because he was sent likewise not to do his own wil but his that sent him John 5.19.30 c. 7.16.28 c. 8.28.42.12.49.50.14.10.24 His fourth Argument He that heareth from another what he shal speak is not God the holy Spirit doth so Ergo it is not God I answ as before in this he denies the Deity of the Son who saith mine ears hast thou opened Psa 40.6 and he seems to press it from John 8.26.28 the truth is he that denies the Deity of one wil be constrained to deny the Godhead of the other although he dares not shew his judgment touching the Deity of Christ till he see how people will take his blasphemy to deny the Deity of the Holy Ghost but one thing in this Argument is