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father_n husband_n mother_n sister_n 13,459 5 11.1008 5 false
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A00123 [A discourse for parents honour and authoritie Written respectiuely to reclaime a young man that was a counterfeit Iesuite.]; De patrio jure. English Ayrault, Pierre, 1536-1601.; Budden, John, 1566-1620. 1614 (1614) STC 1012; ESTC S118975 78,940 182

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