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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85049	A true relation of a dispute between Francis Fullwood minister of West-Alrington in the county of Devon, and one Thomas Salt-House, as 'tis said, of the county of Westmerland: before the congregation of them, called, Quakers; with some others that accidentally heard thereof: in the house of Henry Pollexsen, Esq; in the said parish of West-Alrington. On Tuesday the 24th day of October 1656. / Published by some that were present at the dispute; out of a single and sincere desire, that error may be shames, and the truth cleared. Together with an answer to James Godfries queries, by the said F.F.	Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693.	1656 (1656)	Wing F2520; Thomason E892_12; ESTC R206561	22,146	38

manifest in them Some do know the truth that do not walk in the truth but Christ is not in those that are unto every good work reprobate and do not walk in the truth Those that know their Masters will know the truth but those that know their Masters will may not do it 2. Some may know the truth and may have Christ in them and yet not know that he is in them If Christ as you falsly conceive be in every man and some men as this querie supposeth know not Christ manifest in them then Christ is in some men that know not Christ manifest in them And yet such may know the truth and beleeve in the truth and in Christ himself and yet not know that Christ is in them or that they are in Christ the case of many doubting broken hearts The Counter Queries hence arising 1. Whether there be no truth but Christ or whether there be no truth of Christ but Christ manifest within us 2. Whether Christ crucified or Christ ascinded or Christ interceding at the Fathers right hand be not truths or whether thus Christ be not without us 3. Or whether Christ be a mediator advocate and sufferer for us within us or as manifest within us only 4. Whether is the imputed merit and righteousness of Christ a truth or not or wrought within us only and not without us 5. Whether that light which is in every man be Christ or not if it be whether is Christ manifest in every man or not and then whether can any be ignorant of the truth in whom Christ is manifest if not where is the ground of this Question speak plainly without ambiguity or double dealing The Quakers fourth Querie Is there any other Christ the same yesterday to day and for ever and are not they reprobates that this Christ is not in The plain Answer There is no other Christ but he that died for our sins according to the Scriptures the same yesterday to day and for ever and they are reprobates that this Christ is not in Yet Christ is another then what he is as manifest in us 1. He is the second Person in the Trinity and as such he is not manifest within us he is within us in his Spirit who is said in Scripture to be sent into us by the Son as well as by the Father which is the holy Ghost distinct in person to the Father and Son therefore we read of three that beare record Mat. 28. in Heaven the Father the Word and the Spirit and the Word with the Father is said to bear record in Heaven only but the Spirit both in Heaven and earth 2. Christ is man also and as such he is not manifest in us for as man he is only in one place viz. in Heaven thus he was seen on earth thus he suffered under Pontius Pilate was crucified dead and buried and rose again the third day thus he ascended up into the Heavens which are appointed to contain Act. 3. him untill the restitution of all things To say that Christ is in every man is to contradict the Scripture mentioned which saith he is not in reprobates And to say Christ is in every man and yet to acknowledge he is not in reprobates is to contradict your selves Counter-Queries arising from this fourth Query 1. Whether hath Christ any humane body out of his Church Or whether hath he a real body in Heaven or in Heaven onely 2. Is Christ any other than what he is as manifest in man Or did he suffer and die being out of all other men for our 1 Cor. 15. 1 2 3 4. sins according to the Scriptures 3. Had Christ the same body in the daies of Abraham that he had in the daies of Herod Answer plainly by the Scriptures The Quakers 5th Query How and by what couldst thou have known there had been a Christ and a Saviour and a Mediatour if the Scripture had not spoken of them Answer or let thy silence acknowledge thy ignorance or natural knowledge The plain Answer Unless the Scripture had spoken of Christ I could not have known that there had been any such Saviour but by the revelation of God Angels or men Yet neither Angels nor men could have revealed it to me unless God the Father Son and Holy Ghost had first made it known unto them So great 1 Pet. 1. a Mistery is God manifested in the flesh Thus Christ was at first revealed by God himself otherwise he had never been known which revelation being now written by holy men of God moved by the Holy Ghost is become Scripture the onely ordinary way of making known unto men this Jesus Christ without special revelation Therefore those that would now attain to the knowledge of Christ must search the Scriptures for they are they that testifie of Christ Natural light cannot discover him neither may we expect new revelation seeing the old is acknowledged to be sufficient The Counter-Queries arising from this 5th Query 1. Whether the light which is in every man is able to discover Christ the Saviour without the help of Scriptures 2. Whether Angels have not as much natural light as men And why then do they look down into the Church for the knowledge of the Mistery of Christ 3. Whether Christ Saviour and Mediatour be different persons If not why then do you speak of them 4 Seeing nothing but God by his own word could reveale this Christ Whether the Scripture which onely speaks of Christ be not the Word of God Let not your silence acknowledge your ignorance or your Answer your error in so great concernments The Quakers 6 and 7 Questions Hast thou the Spirit of Christ yea or nay Is the hope that is in thee Christ yea or nay I choose rather to leave these two Questions for Mr Pitts his own plain Answer The Counter-Queries hence arising 1. Whether those that have the true light shining in their hearts have not the Spirit of Christ And whether all have not this true light shining in their hearts And then whether all have not the Spirit of Christ And then is it not strange if Mr Pitt want it 2. Whether all that have the Spirit of Christ be not Christs 3. Whether Christ and hope be all one If so whether hope died for our sins according to the Scriptures Whether hope be in Heaven contrary to 1 Cor. 13. Or Christ be not in Heaven contrary to Act. 3. 21. The Quakers 8th Query Whether Christ and his Apostles meant as they spake Or whether they left their words for Learned men to give another interpretation of their words Yea or nay The plain Answer Christ and his Apostles mean as they spake they left not their words for Learned-men to give another interpretation of them Yet in their words there are some things hard to be understood which learned and stable men alone can give the true interpretation of seeing men unlearned and unstable wrest the Scripture