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this_o answer_n give_v we_o some_o show_n of_o reason_n why_o this_o invocation_n be_v not_o enjoin_v in_o scripture_n but_o it_o afford_v not_o the_o least_o shadow_n of_o a_o reason_n why_o it_o be_v not_o practise_v 2._o either_o this_o invocation_n be_v practise_v by_o the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n or_o not_o if_o not_o 8._o quem_fw-la seuâ—per_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la adhibuit_fw-la câ—t_fw-la rom._n p._n 3_o c._n 2._o sect._n 8._o than_o the_o trent_n council_n and_o the_o roman_a catechism_n false_o do_v assert_v that_o this_o be_v the_o perpetual_a and_o apostolic_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n if_o it_o be_v practise_v than_o that_o practice_n must_v give_v rise_v unto_o the_o same_o objection_n viz._n that_o the_o disciple_n of_o christ_n have_v bring_v into_o the_o world_n this_o custom_n on_o purpose_n to_o advance_v their_o honour_n and_o to_o procure_v worship_n to_o themselves_o 3._o this_o doctrine_n have_v it_o be_v consistent_a 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for_o all_o instruction_n we_o embrace_v as_o from_o they_o must_v be_v what_o they_o do_v teach_v or_o practice_v but_o if_o they_o do_v admit_v this_o practice_n than_o can_v not_o jew_n and_o heathen_n want_v the_o knowledge_n of_o it_o see_v the_o number_n of_o apostate_n and_o hypocritical_a professor_n be_v so_o great_a and_o there_o be_v many_o who_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n 1.16_o call_v 2_o 4._o phil._n 1.16_o only_o to_o spy_v out_o what_o they_o practise_v 3._o if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o may_v abstain_v by_o reason_n of_o some_o precept_n which_o forbid_v this_o invocation_n i_o reply_v that_o which_o god_n wisdom_n do_v forbid_v we_o to_o give_v unto_o the_o noble_a of_o his_o creature_n he_o by_o so_o do_v do_v declare_v that_o he_o reserve_v unto_o himself_o and_o when_o we_o act_v against_o his_o precept_n we_o may_v be_v certain_a that_o he_o will_v not_o reveal_v or_o manifest_v that_o supplication_n which_o he_o have_v 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that_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v unlawful_a or_o idololatrical_a to_o desire_v their_o intercession_n answ_n this_o be_v a_o argument_n in_o which_o the_o romanist_n much_o triumph_n but_o it_o be_v only_o what_o their_o brother_n donatist_n have_v urge_v long_o before_o epistolam_fw-la l._n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecc._n contra_fw-la petâ—liani_n donatistae_fw-la epistolam_fw-la and_o what_o st._n austin_n have_v admirable_o answer_v and_o first_o i_o say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o translation_n of_o that_o argument_n which_o former_o be_v use_v by_o the_o donatist_n in_o confirmation_n of_o their_o schism_n for_o thus_o st._n austin_n propound_v their_o objection_n k._n objection_n non_fw-la dicat_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la quâ—a_fw-la hoc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dico_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la hoc_fw-la dixit_fw-la ille_fw-la collega_n meus_fw-la aut_fw-la illi_fw-la collegae_fw-la mei_fw-la aut_fw-la illi_fw-la episcepi_fw-la vel_fw-la clerici_fw-la vel_fw-la laici_fw-la nosiri_fw-la aut_fw-la ideo_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la illa_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la mirabilia_fw-la fecit_fw-la donatus_n vel_fw-la pontius_n velquilibet_fw-la alius_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la homines_fw-la ad_fw-la memorias_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la orant_fw-la &_o exaudiuntur_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la illa_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la ibi_fw-la contingunt_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la ille_fw-la frater_fw-la noster_fw-la aut_fw-la illa_fw-la seror_fw-la nostra_fw-la tale_n visum_fw-la vigilans_fw-la vidit_fw-la vel_fw-la tale_n visun_fw-it dormiens_fw-la somniavit_fw-la removeantur_fw-la isâ—a_fw-la vel_fw-la figmenta_fw-la mendacium_fw-la hominum_fw-la vel_fw-la portenta_fw-la fall_n icium_fw-la spirituum_fw-la aut_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la vera_fw-la quae_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la aut_fw-la si_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la aliqua_fw-la mira_fw-la sunt_fw-la facta_fw-la magis_fw-la cavere_fw-la debemus_fw-la quod_fw-la cum_fw-la dixisset_fw-la dominus_fw-la quesdum_fw-la futuros_fw-la 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miracle_n be_v wrought_v by_o heretic_n we_o ought_v to_o be_v more_o careful_a because_o our_o lord_n christ_n have_v say_v that_o there_o shall_v come_v deceiver_n who_o shall_v work_v such_o miracle_n 24._o miracle_n mat._n 24._o as_o to_o deceive_v if_o it_o be_v possible_a the_o very_a elect_n he_o add_v by_o way_n of_o vehement_a commendation_n this_o behold_v i_o have_v foretell_v you_o whence_o the_o apostle_n admonish_v we_o say_v 4._o say_v 1_o tim._n 4._o now_o the_o spirit_n manifest_o teach_v that_o in_o the_o latter_a time_n some_o shall_v depart_v from_o the_o faith_n give_v heed_n to_o seduce_a spirit_n and_o doctrinis_fw-la daemoniorum_fw-la i._n e._n the_o doctrine_n of_o worship_v the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a man_n which_o answer_n do_v contain_v three_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o truth_n of_o these_o relation_n may_v be_v well_o suspect_v and_o so_o also_o may_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o t._n g._n deliver_v as_o from_z st._n basil_n austin_n and_o theodoret_n for_o 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aug._n de_fw-fr civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 22._o c._n 8._o p._n 209._o c._n 1._o that_o they_o be_v not_o back_v with_o so_o good_a authority_n as_o that_o we_o shall_v believe_v they_o without_o doubt_n or_o difficulty_n 3._o we_o have_v just_a reason_n to_o suspect_v the_o truth_n of_o these_o relation_n if_o we_o consider_v 1_o that_o st._n 602._o st._n tom._n 5._o hom._n 88_o p._n 601._o 602._o chrysostome_n declare_v that_o miracle_n be_v cease_v in_o his_o time_n and_o have_v a_o set_a discourse_n on_o purpose_n to_o inform_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n why_o miracle_n then_o cease_v which_o have_v they_o be_v so_o common_a in_o the_o christian_a world_n have_v be_v a_o idle_a question_n and_o no_o small_a prejudice_n unto_o the_o christian_a cause_n especial_o these_o be_v the_o chief_a head_n of_o what_o he_o answer_v 1._o that_o though_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 606._o p._n 606._o or_o such_o miracle_n as_o be_v the_o object_n of_o our_o sense_n cease_v yet_o god_n do_v still_o vouchsafe_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d his_o efficacious_a working_n on_o the_o soul_n of_o christian_n 607._o p._n 607._o and_o 2._o that_o sign_n be_v not_o intend_v for_o believer_n but_o for_o unbeliever_n and_o then_o immediate_o conclude_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o therefore_o be_v the_o cause_n why_o miracle_n be_v now_o cease_v 2._o because_o it_o be_v more_o ordinary_a in_o these_o time_n to_o pretend_v dream_n and_o vision_n then_o to_o speak_v of_o any_o cure_v perform_v by_o prayer_n put_v up_o to_o martyr_n as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o gregory_n nyssens_n homily_n upon_o the_o xl_o martyr_n and_o in_o this_o chapter_n of_o st._n austin_n and_o yet_o the_o father_n do_v ingenuous_o confess_v and_o be_v at_o last_o convince_v that_o they_o be_v delusion_n many_o both_o priest_n and_o idiot_n say_v synesius_n have_v be_v find_v among_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 190._o ep._n 5.4_o p._n 190._o feign_v some_o dream_n which_o they_o call_v revelation_n savil._n revelation_n ei_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tom._n 5._o p._n 256._o l._n 29._o ed._n savil._n the_o dream_n or_o vision_n which_o have_v appear_v in_o the_o shape_n of_o they_o that_o have_v depart_v this_o life_n at_o this_o time_n have_v deceive_v and_o corrupt_v many_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n say_v chrysostome_n and_o that_o of_o 42._o of_o aug._n confess_v l._n 10_o c._n 42._o austin_n be_v very_o pertinent_a to_o this_o purpose_n who_o shall_v i_o find_v that_o may_v reconcile_v i_o to_o thou_o shall_v i_o have_v go_v unto_o the_o angel_n with_o what_o prayer_n with_o what_o sacrament_n many_o endeavour_v to_o return_v unto_o thou_o and_o be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v it_o by_o themselves_o as_o i_o hear_v have_v try_v these_o thing_n and_o have_v fall_v into_o the_o desire_n of_o curious_a vision_n and_o be_v account_v worthy_a of_o illusion_n the_o second_o answer_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o word_n of_o austin_n that_o god_n may_v permit_v some_o wonder_n to_o be_v do_v by_o heretic_n and_o by_o impostor_n and_o have_v declare_v that_o he_o will_v do_v so_o a._n so_o quaecunque_fw-la talia_fw-la in_o catholica_fw-la fiunt_fw-la ideo_fw-la sunt_fw-la â—â—prâ—banda_fw-la quia_fw-la in_o catholica_fw-la fiunt_fw-la non_fw-la ideo_fw-la ipsi_fw-la maniâ—estatur_fw-la cub_n â—â—ca_fw-la quia_fw-la haec_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la fiunt_fw-la utrum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la eccsesium_n tenâ—anâ—_n non_fw-la nisi_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturâ—â—um_fw-la canonicâ—s_fw-la libris_fw-la ostendant_fw-la ibid._n p._n 117._o a._n this_o therefore_o say_v he_o be_v no_o confirmation_n of_o the_o truth_n nor_o do_v these_o wonder_n manifest_v the_o church_n be_v catholic_n wherein_o they_o be_v perform_v but_o the_o holy_a scripture_n show_v we_o your_o scripture_n haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la causae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la documenta_fw-la haec_fw-la fundamenta_fw-la haec_fw-la firmamenta_fw-la this_o answer_n will_v be_v sufficient_o confirm_v by_o these_o word_n of_o dr._n 6._o dr._n orig._n sacrae_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o â—_o 6._o still_v fleet_n that_o after_o the_o true_a doctrine_n be_v confirm_v by_o divine_a miracle_n god_n may_v give_v the_o devil_n power_n to_o work_v if_o not_o real_a miracle_n yet_o such_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v by_o the_o thing_n themselves_o whether_o they_o be_v so_o or_o no_o and_o this_o for_o trial_n whether_o we_o will_v forsake_v the_o true_a doctrine_n confirm_v by_o great_a miracle_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v con-contrary_a thereto_o and_o be_v confirm_v by_o false_a prophet_n by_o sign_n and_o lie_a wonder_n now_o in_o this_o case_n our_o rule_n of_o trial_n must_v not_o so_o much_o be_v the_o miracle_n consider_v in_o themselves_o whether_o real_a or_o no_o as_o the_o compare_v they_o with_o the_o miracle_n wrought_v in_o confirmation_n of_o that_o doctrine_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o this_o which_o these_o word_n tend_v to_o the_o prove_v of_o therefore_o god_n people_n under_o the_o law_n be_v to_o examine_v the_o drift_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o miracle_n and_o if_o they_o be_v intend_v to_o bring_v they_o to_o idolatry_n whatever_o they_o be_v they_o be_v forbid_v to_o hearken_v to_o they_o as_o you_o may_v see_v most_o evident_o deut._n 13.1_o 2_o 3._o so_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n the_o worship_n of_o the_o true_a god_n through_o jesus_n christ_n and_o by_o the_o doctrine_n reveal_v by_o he_o be_v the_o standard_n whereby_o we_o ought_v to_o judge_v of_o all_o pretender_n unto_o miracle_n so_o that_o let_v the_o miracle_n be_v what_o they_o will_v if_o they_o contradict_v that_o doctrine_n which_o christ_n reveal_v to_o the_o world_n we_o be_v to_o look_v upon_o they_o only_o as_o trial_n of_o our_o faith_n in_o christ_n to_o see_v whether_o we_o love_v he_o with_o our_o whole_a heart_n or_o no._n and_o according_o we_o look_v upon_o these_o miracle_n as_o trial_n whether_o we_o will_v forsake_v the_o head_n christ_n jesus_n and_o give_v this_o worship_n of_o