confessions for it is so euident as they are forced sometimes to confess it TENTH CHAPTER That Protestants doe manie vvaies confess that the true Church of God is Infallible in proposing matters of Faith 1. IT is so euident that the true Church of God is Infallible in proposing matters of faith as Protestants doe manie wayes confess it though it doe quite ouerthrow their cause becaus themselues acknowledg that for manie ages she hath opposed their doctrin whose confessions I wil endeauour to set down in order For first they plainly and absolutly grant that the Church cannot err in matters of faith Luther l. de seruo arbitrio to 2. fol. 438. Thus hath our Creed I beleue Not in the least article the holie Catholik Church that it is imposâ—ible for her to err in the least article Respons ad Syluestrum tom 1. fol. 177. I shal be an heretik if I hold it not after the Catholik Church hath determined it Ibid. The vniuersal Church cannot err as the Cardinal of Cocciustom 〈◊〉 p. 140. Cambray proueth most learnedly Libro de decem Praeceptis The Church cannot err it is gouerned by the holie Ghost In Resolutionibus Do we not see how watchful Christ is in his Church that he suffereth not them to err Tom. 7. German fol. 562. The Church nether ought nor can lie no not in the least Not in the least matter matter seing God is the mouth of the Church and God cannot lie so nether the Church can And lib. de potestate Bellarm. l. 3. de Verbo Dâ—â— c. 5. Papae We are not certain of anie priuate man that he hath reuelation from the father but the Church it iâ— of whom we may not doubt Melancthon Respons ad Clerum Coloniensem to 2. p. 113. Let the earth swallow me and al Etna ouer whelme me before I fight with the Church of God We sphalus in Hospin parte 2. Histor Sacram. fol. 237. â—h Church Not in doctrin of God can not err in doctrin Thus Luther and Lutherans 2. Caluin 4. Instit c. 1. § 3. we are Seâ— alâ—o c. 8. §. 12. sure that we shal alwayes haue truth whiles we are in the lapos the Church lib. de scandalis p 102. I willingly add that the sense of the Church is so ioined with the true doctrin of the law and Gospâ—l that she is rightly iudged a faithful teacher and Interpreter of it And in Antidoto Concil sess 4. None of vs but submitts his writings to the iudgment of the Church Sadeel ad Repetit Turiani loco 30. p. 643. If the Church be the ground of truth as Paul auoucheth if faith be the fundation of the Church as Ambrose affirmeth it followeth that whersoeuer the true Church is there true faith is Moulins l. 1. contra Peron c. 1. It is true that who is assured that he is in the true Church is assured that he hath true faith and doctrin 3. Cranmer in Fox Acts p. 1709. I am readie in al things to follow the iudgment of the most sacred word of God and of the holie Catholik Church Latimer Ibid. p. 1603. I confes there is a Catholik Church to the determination of which I wil stand Philpot. ibid. p. 1637. I doe not think the Catholik Church can err in doctrin P. 1640. If they can proue themselues to be the Catholik Church I wil neuer be against their doctrin but reuoke al that I haue saied Ridley ibid. p. 1597. I acknowledg an vnspotted Church in the which no man can err Whitaker controu See Vvhitaker â—ont 1. q. 5. c. 3. q. 3. c. 5. cont 2. q. 4. c. 2. l 2. cont Bâ—â— sect 1. 2. q. 5. c. 18. It cannot hold anie heretical doctrin and yet be a Church Ibid. Truth maketh the Church and the Church teacheth where is truth and which is truth C. 19. which place 1. Timoth. 3. sheweth that truth abideth alwaies in the Church nor can be separated from her other companies may err but it is proper and a Note of this companie that it can not err as they confess Ibid. this place Isaiae 53. sheweth that true preaching of the word shal be perpetual in the Church And controu 4. q. 4. c. 2. The Church is the Mistress of faith and manners to her al must submit And l. 3. de Scriptura p. 453. They slander vs that we make the iudgment of the Church merely humane P. 412. Tradition was once of the same authoritie as Scripture is now White in his way p. 79. No man denieth but that it is a good way not to be deceaued in an obscure question to ask and follow the Iudgment of the Church so it be the true Church P 80. The Church is to vs a witnes and vpholder of the faith and alwaies preserueth it which we denie not P. 67. These words be tolerable The doctrin teaching and beleif of the true Church Infallible rule is the infallible Rule in al points to be followed In his defence p. 318. wee wold frâ—ely grant this conclusion if his meaning weâ—e no more but that the doctrin and faith of the vniuersal Church is the Rule of faith See him also p. 339. â—ulk in Ioan. 14. Nota 5. The true Church of Christ neuer fals into Apostaâ—ie heresie or to nothing Therfore it is an impudent slander we say so Feild in Appendice part 1. p. 69. Nether D. Humfrey nor we condemne the Vniuersal Madnes to condemne the Church Church but think it verie madnes so to doe Laude sec 20. p. 142. A verie dangerous thing it is to crie out in general tearmes The whole Catholik Church can err sec 18. p. 139. We hold that the Church neuer fals into heresie That the whole visible Church neuer fals into heresie we most willingly grant sec 16. p. 113. First comes in the tradition of the Church the present Tradition of the Church is not heretical Church so it is no heretical or schismatical beleif sec 36. p. 344. we doe relie vpon the infallible authoritie of the word of God and the whole Catholik Church Ibid. p. 346. T is true that after à General Councel is ended and admitted by the whole Church is then infallible Moulins in Arnolds flights c. 8. It is fals that we say simply The Church can err Andrews Respons ad 1. Epist Molinei Arrius his name is iustly in the Catalogue of Heretiks becaus he opposed the consent of the Vniuersal Church Chillingworth c. 2. § 124. p. 100. That the liuing Iudge in the Iewish Church had an infallible direction is that which the Doctor Potter attributes to the Iews Potter sec 2. p. 25. The high Priest had an absolutly infallible direction If anie See Chilling c 2 p. 106. such promise from God to assist the Pope could be produced his decisions might then iustly pass for oracles without examination Ibid. p. 34. The Catholik Church is the faithful keeper of al
scripture and diuine verities And ibid. p. 55. Whosoeuer â—ther wilfully opposeth anie Catholik veritie manteined by this Church of Saints or the Catholik visible Church as doe heretiks their Heretiks who oppose the visible Church condition is damnable Chillingworth in his preface n. 16. The doctrin of the Trinitie is supported by those pillars of the faith which alone are fit and able to support it I mean Scripture and consent of the ancient Doctors Behold the consent of ancient Doctors a pillar of faith and able to support euen the doctrin of the Trinitie And n. 28. what is held necessarie by the Catholik Church of this age I doe verily beleue Church of this age and embrace c. 1. n. 7. I grant that Christ founded a visible Church stored with al helps necessarie to saluation particularly with sufficient means to beget and mantein faith to conserue vnitie and compose schismes to discouer and condemn heretiks and to determin controuersies in religion which were necessarie to be determined And if Vniuersal tradition as infâ—lâ—ble as Scripture sufficient to these ends infallible to these ends as he there granteth c. 3. n. 45 we willingly grant the Church to be as infallible in heâ— vniuersal traditions as the scripture is n. 46. Make it appear that it is tradition and we wil seek no farther c. 2. n. 155. Vniuersal tradition is the rule to iudge al controuersies by Field l. 1. c. 13. Heretiks are they who obstinatly persist in error contrarie And rule to iudg al controuersiâ—s by to the Churches faith l. 4. c. 2. That the whole Church as it comprehendeth onely al those beleuers that are and haue been since the Apostles times hold err in anie thing conteined within the compass of reâ—cled truth is impossible seing error which is an aberration declining or swaruing from the truth once deliuered necessarily implieth a kinde of particularitie and noueltie Ibid. yea in Present Church erreth not in things not absolutly necessarie things that are not absolutly necessarie to be known and beleued expresly and distinctly we constantly beleue that this present Church can neuer err or doubt pertinaciously Item That the visible Church neuer falleth into heresie we most willingly grant c. 5. Al the Pastors of the Church since the Apostles can not err And as we shewed part 1. l. 2. c. 3 and l. 1. of the Author of Protestant religion c. 1. they commonly profess to exclude al heretikâ— out of the Church 4. If anie answer that these Protestants mean onely that the Church is infallible in fundamental points but not in proposing al points of faith I reply First that Lutheâ— saieth the Church can not err in the least article not in the least matters That Wesphalus she cannot err in doctrin that Feild saieth she cannot â—rr in things not absolutly necessarie Secondly that others say absolutly The Church cannot err and it is sophistical to interpret absolute words In parte or In some sorte Nether hindereth it that in other places they say the Church can err becaus it is vsual for heresiks to contradict themselues and to confess truth when they are pressed thervnto and at other times to denie it Thirdly that if the Church be infallible in fundamental points she must be also in al points sufficiently reuealed to her becaus al such are fundamental to her And also that there are no Not-fundamental points in their sense that is such as if they be sufficiently proposed may be not beleued withouâ— loss of sauing faith true Church and saluation but al are to be beleued actually if they be sufficiently proposed and to be virtually beleued though not so proposed And therfore if the true Church be infallible in fundamental points she is infallible in al points of faith or in al parts of Gods word sufficiently reuealed to her But it must be wel noted how plainly Protestants confess that the Church can not err in the least article in the least matter cannot err in doctrin not in things not absolutly necessarie in al points that they are sure of truth who are in the Church that the Church cannot fal into hereâ—ie that it is heresie and to be an heritik obstinatly to oppose the Churches faith Which if they would constantly hold al controuersies were ended in finding the Church 5. Secondly Protestants put pure sincere incorrupt and entire profession of Christs doctrin in their definition of the true visible Church as is shewed parte 1. l. 2. c. 6. And it implieth contradiction that there should be anie error where there is pure sincere incorrupt and entire profession of Christs doctrin If anie answer that they mean onely Pure sincere incorrupt and entire profession of Christs fundamental doctrin I replie as before to the former shift and also that this were to condemn their definition of the true Church of defect and obscuritie in not expressing such a necessarie particle as without which the definition were fals and would not agree to the thing defined For Puritie vnles In fundamentals be added wil not agree to a true Church erring in Not fundamentals I add also that as yet neuer durst anie Protestant define the true Church to be a companie professing the fundamental parte of Christs doctrin becaus the name of anie parte of his doctrin would shew that it is not his true Church absolutly but in parte onely and simply not his Church Like to this is that they giue Pure preaching of Gods word for an essential Note of the Church yea for the onely essential Note therof as saieth Whitaker contro 2. q. 5. c. 17. Morton l. 2. Apolog. c. 4. and others And Luther in â— 2. Isaiae Beza de nobis Eccles how can Pure preaching be anie Note if there may be error in al secondarie points of faith If therfore Riuer tract 1. sec 45. Daneusâ—ont 4. p. 141. Chilling c. 4. p. 221. they wil mantein their essential definition and their essential Note of the true Church they cannot say she can err in anie points of faith 6. Thirdly they sometimes grant that the Church is infallible in her vniuersal traditions and namely Vniuersal tradition as infallible as scripture and so a word of God that the scripture is the word of God Chillingworth c. 3. n. 45. you were to proue the Church infallible not in her traditions which we willingly grant if they be as vniuersal as the tradition of the vndoubted books of scripture is to be as infallible as the Scripture is For nether does being written make the word of God more infallible Protestants in Colâ—oq Ratisb sâ—ss 1. and 11. nor being vnwritten make it the less infallible Brentius in Prolegomenis contra Sotum p. 249. we speak not of that tradition by which the Scripture and what is conteined in it hath been deliuered to vs. For we affirme this tradition to be certain and vndoubted And Morton l. 1. Apolog. c. 32. and to 2. l. 1. c.
5. calleth this The Ladie and as it were Goddess of al traditions Robert Baronius tract de Eccles c. 21. n. 1. The Fathers knew no other infallible Rule of faith beside the Scripture and perpetual tradition of the Church Dauenant de Iudice c. 5. we grant Tradition before Moyses was sufficient that before Moises the word of God not written and propagated to posteritie by continual tradition was a sufficient Rule of faith Whitaker contr 1. q. 3. c. 5. I deny not that the Churches Tradâ—tion conuinâ—ent tradition is a conuincent argument which books are Canonical which not And if conuincent infallible Behold the Churches tradition of the Scripture is certain vndoubted the Ladie and as it were Goddess of traditions and her perpetual or vniuersal tradition as infallible as the Scripture an infallible rule of faith And what maketh it so but Gods assistance 7. Fourthly they grant that the testimonie or tradition of the Church Testimonie of the Church proueth the scripture is an infallible proof of the Scripture Whitaker l. 2. de Scriptura c. 4. sec 4. p. 227. I say the testimonie of the Church sufficeth to conuince and refute those who think amiss of Scripture or denie the articles of Christian faith Ibid. p 270. Thy meaning was that the iudgment of the Church was a most strong argument in the kinde of external cause and my meaning was altogether the same l. 1. c. 1. sec 9. p. 19. The true Churches testimonie of the Scripture must be taken and who taketh it not shal be guiltie of sacriledg Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 7. we are forced by the Churches authoritie to beleue these books to be diuine And c. 9. p. 325. Al those Fathers doe they proue anie other thing then that Scripture is to be receaued becaus it was alwaies receaued of the Becaus Church and some books to be reiected becaus the Churchal waies reiected them This we most willingly grant And ibid. p. 326. we confâ—ss with Ireney that the authoritie of the Church is a firme and compendious Demonstration of Canonical doctrin And l. 5. contra Dureum sec 19. I think there could not be brought à stronger argument against the schismatical Donatists then from the authoritie of the Church And l. 1. sec 30. we confess the Churches approbation is necessarie and we admit no books but which haue certain and perpetual testimonie of the true Church you see therfore how much we giue to the Churches tâ—stimonie in which we think is strenght enough to confirme Strenght enough in the â—hurch testimonie the Canon of Scripture and refute al Aduersaries Kemnitius 1. parte Exam tit de Scriptura Al this dispute whether S. Iames Epistle be Canonical dependeth on the assuâ—ed firme and agreing testimonies of the Church Hooker l. 2. § 4. Nether could we euer come to anie pause wheron to rest our assurance this way so that vnles beside Scripture there were something which Something beside Scripture can assure vs. might assure vs that we doe wel we could not think we doe wel in being assured that the Scripture is a sacred and holie rule of wel doing And this thing which can assure vs as a pause to rest on that scripture is a sacred rule he saieth l. 3. § 8. is the Church where he addeth scripture teacheth vs that sauing faith the which God hath discouered vnto the worldby Reuelation and it presumeth vs taught by the Church that it self is diuine and sacred Item If â—nfidels or Atheists chance at anie time to cal it in question this giueth vs occasion to â—ift what reason there is wherby the testimonie of the Church concerning scripture and our owne perswasion which Scripture it self confirmed may be proued a truth Testimonie of the Church infalâ—ible infallible Behold the Church can assure vs as a pause to rest our assurance on that the Scripture is Gods word she teacheth vs that it is diuine and that her testimonie of the Scripture is infallible And is not this to haue one â—illable to this purpose that That wheron we must rest our assurance that the Scripture is Gods word is the Church as Chillingworth auoucheth c. 2. § 30. Doth the Church assure vs as a pause to rest our assurance on doth she teach vs that the Scrippture is Gods word is her testimonie of the Scripture infallible and may we not rest our assurance herof on the Church or is this no more but to be a key or inducement as Laude wold haue it sec 16 § 25. 8. Spalatensis l. 7. de Republ. c. 1. n. 9. doth not onely say that the Churches testimonie of the Scripture is sufficient to beleue it to be The Churâ—hâ—◠〈◊〉 stim onelie meâ—ns Gods word but also addeth that it is the onely motiue or meane to beleue it to be such To enquire which book is Canonical the Church hath that alone singular and onely Rule that the Vniuersal Church ask herself and what she in actual exercise holdeth seek and plainely know And l. contra Suarem c. 1. n. 34. I shew that nether Councels nor Popes nor Fathers nor Church can otherwise define which books be canonical which not but by the onely testimonie of the whole Church Chillingworth c. 2 n. 27. The question whether such or such a book be canonical Scripture cannot be decided affirmatiuely but onely by the testimonies of ancient Churches n. 32. by the Churches But by the Church consent we are assured what Scriptures be canonical of this controuersie we make iudge the consent and testimonie of the ancient and primitiue Church Which he repeateth n. 35. 42 And n. 114 It is vpon the authoritie of vniuersal tradition that we would haue them beleue scripture In his preface n. 28. Whatsoeuer is held necessarie by the Catholik Church of this age I verily beleue Finally they commonly grant as we shal see l 2. c. 4 sec 2. that the Scripture needeth an Interpreter euen for some necessarie points of faith And I hope they wil not say that a needful Interpreter for matters of infallible faith is fallible in interpreting them or that the Church of God is not this infallible Interpreter rather then anie A needful interpreter of infallible faith is infallible other I add also that Whitaker contr 2. q. 4. c. 2. granteth that the Church erreth not in things that are necessarie to anie men And such are more then absolutly necessarie to euerie one Laude also Relat. p. 356. The Fathers of the primitiue Church did sufficiently propose to men the diuine reuelation and did by it beget and breed vp faith Behold the testimonie or authoritie of the Church sufficeth to conuince and demonstrate that the Scripture is to be receaued becaus the Church receaueth it that the Church can assure vs that the Scripture is the word of God and that her testimonie herein is infallible is a Rule of faith nay the onely Rule or meane to
line and In euerie line leaf of the bible proclaimes it to be the word of God The scripture by its own light shewes it self to be the word of God In his Defense p. 285. The scriptures haue in them a light and an authoritie of their own sufficient to proue themselues to be the word of God and to giue infallible assurance to al men of the true sense p. 15. I denie that the Canonical books cannot be proued to be by themselues secluding Church authoritie and tradition P. 282. The authoritie and teaching of the Church is not alway nor simply necessarie to shew al men the light of the scripture or so much as to point to it For ether by immediat light of Gods spirit or by the light of nature it may be known to be Gods word And p. 277. he saieth that assurance of By light of nature the true sense of the Scripture is very By onelie â—eading ordinarily had without al motion of the Church whatsoeuer by onely reading See him c. 20. p. 169. Field Appendice parte 2. p. 14. It Euident by itself is euident in it self that God speaketh in the scripture and reuealeth those things which we beleue which is that which we say Bel in his Downfal of Poperie art 7. p. 135. The scriptures Canonical are discerned from not Canonical euen of themselues like as light is discerned from darknes Protestants in Colloq Ratisbon Thesi 1. p. 19. Credit is to be giuen to the scripture for it self and sess 10 p. 314. The authoritie of the Gospel of Mathew is gathered out of the scripture it self Chillingworth c. 4. § 53. The doctrin it self is very fit and worthie to be thought to come from God SECOND SECTION Protestants sometimes denie it HOoker Couel Laude White Chillingworth and others related in the former Chapter sec 2. who denie that Scripture can be sufciently known by it self denie that it sufficiently sheweth or proueth it self And the said Laude Relat. sec 16. p. 8â— We doe not say that there is such a light in Scripture as that euerie man vpon the first sight must yeeld to it Ibid. p. 70. No created thing alone can giue No created thing can giue witnes to it self witnes to it self and make it euident nor one parte testifie for an other and satisfie where Reason wil but offer to contest sec 38. n. 6. We beleue Scripture to No particular text for proof of Scripture be Scripture and by diuine and in fallible faith too and yet we can shew no particuler text for it Feild in Appendice part 2. p. 21. Tradition of the Church necessarie The tradition of the Church is a necessarie means wherby the books of Scripture may be deliuered vnto vs and made known Potter sec 5. p. 8. That Scripture is of diuine authoritie the Beleuer sees by Found by help of the Church that glorious beam of diuine light which shines in the Scripture though found by the help and direction of the Church without and of grace within Chillingworth c. 2. § 46. p. 69. That the Diuinitie of a writing cannot No wiseman saieth be known from it self alone but by some extrinsecal authoritie you need not proue for no wise man denies it Ibid. § 3. p. 53. The controuersie wherin the Not but by natural reason Scripture is the subiect of the question cannot be determined but by natural reason § 8. p. 55. It can neuer be proued by Scripture to a gainsayer that the book called Scripture is the word of God So also § 27. p. 63. § 29. p. 64. sec 52. p. 72. Ibid. § 155. p. 114. A written A written rule needeth some thing els rule must alwaies need something els which is ether euidently true or euidently credible to giue attestation to it And the same mean al other Protestants cited before l. 1. c. 14. who say That the attestation of the Church is necessarie for to know the Scripture to be the word of God and that the Church is as it were the key or dore to enter into the knowledg of the Scripture For how should the Churches attestatioÌ„ be necessarie to know the Scripture to be the word of God if it can be known to be such by itself SEAVENTH CHAPTER VVhether Scripture be the true Iudge of Controuersies of faith FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme WHitaker Contr. 1. q. 5. c. 7. The second argument wher with the Iesuit proueth that Scripture cannot be Iudge and Interpreter of Scripture is this becaus in euerie wel ordered common wealth the Iudge and law are different wherfore seing scripture is the law it can be no way Iudge And he answereth The Scripture iudg Interpreter andrule diuine law is the iudgment the Iudge the Interpreter and the rule And c. 8. The Chief Iudge of Controuersies must haue these three First that we certainly know that his sentence is true and that we ought to submit to it Secondly that there is no appealing from his sentence Thirdly that he be not partial And al these hath the scripture and the Holie Ghost speaking in scripture Contro Supreme iudge 2. q. 5. c. 5. In al Controuersies we appeal to the scripture as to the supreme Iudge l. 2. contra Dureum sec 41. Austin wold haue the scripture to be witnes I make it Iudge l. 3. de Scriptura p. 409. I wil haue the scripture alone and the Holie Ghost speaking in scripture the Iudge of al doctrines Zuinglius in Disp 1. to 2. fol. 625. No iudg but Scripture I wil admit no other Iudge beside the Scriptures Confessio Heluetica c. 2. We suffer no other Iudge in matter of faith but God himself pronouncing by the Scriptures what is true what fals Dauenant de Iudice Controuersiarum c. 2. p. 65. We must need admit the Scripture for Iudge and also for Rule of Iudging Laude sec 26. p. 194. To settle Controuersies in the Church there is a visible Iudge and Infallible but not liuing And that is the Scripture And sec 25. p. 157. he saieth The Scripture is the Iudge Item sec 39. p. 386. Morton to 2. Apol. l. 5. c. 1. Scripture is the Supreme and infallible iudge of the Church to the learned in obscure matters and to the vnlearned in clear And c. 13. Then you acknowledg it Scripture to be the publik iudge God keep youin this minde Ibid. The Fathers in al difficulties against Heretiks appealed to the scripture as to the supreme iudge See him l. 2. c. 1. and his Appeal l. 3. c. 15. sec 5. White in his way p. 14. The scripture onely is the iudge and Rule of faith See Melancthon in locis c. de Ecclesiâ SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it PRotestants in Colloq Ratisbon sess 1. p. 38. It is one thing to shew the Iudge an other to shew Iudg and Rule different the Rule So the Rule is not Iudge
P. 76. Faith is of scriptures heard P. 108. Faith is begotten not of testimonie of the Church but onely out of scripture P. 122. The The â—â—elie sufficient means scripture is the most strong the most effectual I ad also now the onely sufficient means to beleue P. 130. Our faith relieth vpon the scriptures alone P. 165. scriptures are the foundations of our faith P. 167. The scripture is the beginning of beleuing The same he hath p. 168. P. 173. The formal cause of our Scripture the formal cause of beleef faith is not the voice of the Church but Gods word reuealed in the scriptures Potter sec 5 p. 8. The principal motiue and last obiect of beleif is the diuine last obiect authoritie of the scripture it self P. 10. The cheif principle ground on which faith rests and for which it firmely The ground of faith assents vnto those truths which the Church propounds is the diuine reuelation made in scripture sec 7. p. 95. The creed conteines onely the material The formal obiect obiect of faith The scripture is further the formal obiect of faith or the motiue and ground whervpon faith is grounded being both the obiectâ—m quod in respect of things therin reuealed and obiectum Obiectum quod and quâ— quo in respect of that diuine veritie and authoritie which reueals them Laude Relat. sec 16. p. 84. Tradition of the present Church is the first moral motiue to beleue but the beleif it self That the scripture is the word of God rests vpon the scripture P. 89. Doe Faith resolued into Scripture you grant as you ought to doe that we resolue our faith into scripture as the ground and we wil neuer denie that Tradition is the key that letts vs in Sec. 18. p. 123. The Prophets testimonie was diuine into which namely their writings the Iewes did resolue their faith Hooker l. 2. § 7. Scripture is The ground of al beleef the ground of al beleif Chillingworth c. 3. § 32. p. 149. I can not know anie doctrin to be a diuine and supernatural truthe but becaus the scripture saies so And where saies it that it is the word of God Vttermost formal cause of faith Morton to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 37. Papists are forced against their wil to grant that thè vttermost formal cause of Catholik faith doth not consist in the authoritie of the Church but in scripture Ib. The diuine authoritie of the scripture by vertue of the holie Ghost doth imprint in the minds of the hearers the last formal Last formal cause cause of faith And l 5. c. 11. scripture is to the faithâ—ul the supreme Iudge euen concerning vs in which our consciences doe last rest In his Appeal l. Last rest and resolution 3. c 15. sec 5. In the doctrin of scripture mens consciences may take their last rest and resolution White in his Table before his way The last resolution of our faith is into the authoritie of the scripture And yet they cannot denie but the authoritie of the Scripture is create For they were written by men And so the formal cause the vttermost formal cause the last formal cause the last rest Create authoritie the vttermost formal cause of Protest faith the last resolution of their faith is create authoritie and not Prima veritas it self as they pretend and condemn Catholiks for onely saying that the create authoritie of the true formal cause but say not as Protestants say of Scripture the vttermost the last formal cause the last resolution of our faith Besids Protestants make Protestants inferences out of humane Principles the last resolution of their faith their own Inferences partly out of some humane principle to be equal and equiualent vnto express Scripture or word of God as is shewed before c. 3 sec 2. and so make their own Inferences and those partly out of humane Principles the formal cause the vttermost the last formal cause that into which their faith is last resolued and withal teach that L. 1. c. 18 n. 1. the Inference cannot be more certain then the Principle out of which it is inferred How then can their faith haue more certaintie then humane as Chillingworth confessed c. 8. sec 2. SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it CHillingworth c. 2. n. 159. p. 116. For other reasons I conceaue this doctrin that Scripture is the rule of faith Not fundamental becaus if a man should beleue Christian religion Scripture no fâ—ndamental doctrin wholy and entirely and liue according to it such a man though he should not know or not beleue the Scripture to be a rule of faith no nor to be the word of God my opinion is he may be saued so that the books of Scripture are not so much the obiects of our faith as the instruments of conueying it to our vnderstanding and not so much of the being of Christian doctrin as requisit to the welbeing of it Ireneus tels vs of some barbarous nations that beleued the doctrin of Christ and yet beleued not the Scripture to be the word of God For they neuer heard of it and faith comes of hearing God requiring of vs vnder pain of damnation onely Not damnabâ—e not to beâ—eue the Scripture to beleue the verities therin conteined and not the diuine authoritie of the books wherin they are conteined Ibid. n. 32. p. 65. Which Scripture we beleue not finally and for it self but for the matter conteined in it We Scripture not last obâ—â—st of faith are to beleue it not as the last obiect of out faith but as the means of it Ibid. Natural reason built on principles common Natural â—eason last â—eâ—oluâ—◠〈◊〉 of â—rotest faith to al men is the last resolution of our faith of the Scripture into which the Churches authoritie is but the first inducement n. 115. p. 96. By you as wel as by Protestants al is finally resolued into reason Baro in his Apologie pro disput de obiecto fidei p. 48. Laicks beleue the doctrin which is proposed to them to be beleued to be in the Protest beleue Scripture but with 〈…〉 ne faith Scripture onely with humane faith Behold first That Scripture is the rule of faith is no fundamental doctrin Secondly one may be saued though the beleue not the Scripture to be the word of God Thirdly books of Scripture are not so much obiects of our faith as instruments therof Fourthly are not so much of the being of Christian faith as of the wel being of it Fiftly God requires not vnder pain of damnation to beleue the diuine authoritie of Scripture Sixtly we beleue not the Scripture finally and for it self Seauently It is not the last obiect of faith Eightly natural reason is the last resolution of Protestants faith of the Scripture Ninthly Laicks beleue their doctrin to be in the Scripture but with humane faith And can that which is such be the formal
the Catholik faith And himself addeth In al controuersies the Papists with whom we deale crie Plain euident manifest scripture P. 49. he citeth Bellarmin l. 1. de Verbo Dei c. 2. saying other means may deceaue me but nothing is more known nothing more certain then the scriptures that it were the greatest madnes in the world not to beleue them P. 64. some of them say the scripture is the rule and the principal Papists make Scripture a Rule rule too yea more as Bellarmin and others P. 15. Papists grant that al other authoritie is finally resolued into the authoritie of Scripture P. 17. We admit the Scripture on al hands and al the question between vs is about the Church In his Defense p. 162. Our Aduersaries Papists grant the last and highest resolutions of our faith to be into the authoritie of the Scripture Which he repeateth p. 309. 310. 3â—5 Laude sec 16. n. 24. The greatest vpholders of Tradition that euer were made the Scripture vâ—ry necessarie in al ages of the Church sec 20 n. 3. p. 120. The Roman Churches receâ—â—ues the scripture as Rule of faitâ— Iuâ—l Defense of A Rule the Apologie part 1. p. 65. p. 129. You Harding say the scriptures are so clear of your side Luther in psal 22. tom So clear on their side 3. fol. 343. We cannot ouercome the Papists bring a huge number of places of scripture for works Plessie in his preface to his book of the Church When in the time of our Fathers men began to protest openly against the abuses and traditions of the Romish Church by the authoritie of Gods word they that were then accounted famous for learning in that Church as Ecbius Cocleus Prierias and others laboured al they could to defend the said abuses by the holie scripture Behold how from the verie beginning of Protestancie Catholiks sought to defend their doctrin by Scripture Morton also tom 2. Apol l. 5. c. 21. relateth this words of Roffensis against Luther The words of the Gospel make most plainly for vs al fight for vs more clearly then More clearly then the sun the sun And ibid. l. 1. c. 37 citeth this Note of the Rhemist Testament Ioan. 4. This woman Mystically being the Church it is here signified that they which at the first beleue becaus the Church teacheth so afterward be much confirmed finding it in the Scripture also And ibid. Morton addeth yee see then that your last resolution is founded in the authoritie of the Scriptures Whitaker Contro 1. q. 1. c. 1. Papists extol the scriptures and we higly Papists extol the Scripture esteeme them and there is no controuersie that we ought to search the scriptures but how we should search them Kemnice in Epist dedicat 1. partis Exam. The Papists at this time put al the strenght and Defense of their cause in the matter of the scripture and Tradition Thus Catholiks esteem and speak of holie Scripture wheras far otherwise Luther postilla in Domin 8. post Trinitatem fol. 301. said The scripture is the book of Heretiks Christianus Protestants say Scripture is the book of Heretikr ad Portum l. contra Verronem tom 5. Rupellae p. 31 Luther said most truly that scripture is the book of heretiks The same Luther postilla in Epiphaniam It is true that Heretiks are made by occasion of scripture Daile in his Apologie c. 5. Papists reuerence the Gospels and Epistles of the Apostles as diuine bookes SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it APologie of the Church of England parte 4. c. 18. d. 1. These men Papists alwaie abhor and flie the word of God euen as the theef flyes the gallowes Ibid. These men bid the holie scripture away as dum and fruitles Item They burn the scriptures and cal them the books of Heretiks The like hath Whitaker ad Rat. 5. 6. Campiani And Contro 1. q. 6. c. vlt. Contr. 2. q. 5. c. 6. And l. 2. de Scrip. c. 6 sec 3. And Morton tom 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 47. Martyr in 1. Cor. 15. Papists leaue no place ether to God or scripture Caluin in Gal. 1. v. 8. The Papists do furiously vex the pure and simple doctrin of the Gospel In Ioan. 4. v. 20. The Papists giue no place to Prophets or Apostles Act. 17. v. 2. Papists think nothing can be certainly gathered out of scripture Contra Anabapt p. 412. The Papists say that the holie scriptures Vide Caluin in â—oan 6. v. 60. c. 8. v. 12. 39. c. 17. v. 20. are to be let goe Luther in l. de Consilijs The Pope burieth the holie scripture in durt and dust Morton to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 33. Cardinal Hosius was not ashamed to say impiously See his Appeal l. 5. c. 28. sâ—c 2. Tom 2. Apol. l. 5 c. 13. Potter sect 5. p. 3. It had been better if Scripture had not been written Yet ibid. confesseth This I haue read of Hosius but not in Hosius But he is ashamed to tel where he read it to wit in Iuels Apologie of the Church of England parte 4 where Iuels best excuse of a manifest lie is that some of his lying brethren had told that leud lie before him Read Cope Dial. 6. c. 19. of this faceles lie of Iuel And Hardings answer to the Apologie Hosius de Verbo Dei Bellarm. Praefat in tom 2. White in his Way p. 18. They know and confess the most and greatest points of their religion euen wel nigh al wherin they dissent from vs haue no foundation on the scripture And in his Epistle Dedicatorie Al their speâ—ch is of the Church no mention of the scriptures nor God their Father but their Mother the Church And in his Defense p. 61. accuseth Catholiks of Enmitie rebellion and contempt of scriptures Ibid. p. 346. The words of the scripture itself the Replier and his Complices despise and reuile But it is wel that both himself and his fellowes do giue him the lie herein as we saw in the former section Vshers Reionder p. 1. Papists flie from the Scripture euen as the dog flieth from the whip wherwith he is beaten they speak euil of it But now hauing shewed the manifold and main vncertainties and contradictions of Protestants touching Scripture let anie iudicious Reader iudge whether Protestants can rationally say or think that the Scripture is the onely Iudge or onelie Rule or onelie sufficient Proposer of points of faith apointed by God for to direct and guide vs assuredly and infallibly in matters of assured and infallible faith but now let vs set down Catholiks certain and constant doctrin concerning the same Onely let vs remember luthers word vpon the fift psalme No Heretiks were ouercomen by force or craft but by mutual dissension nether doth Christ fight otherwise with them then by sending amongst them the spirit of giddines and dissension FOVRTEENTH CHAPTER That Scripture taken by it self alone vvithout attestation of the Church that it is the
Blasphemous And Confessed by Protestants diuers Protestants confess this to be a point of faith For the Bohemian confession professeth to beleue art 17. That our Ladie was a Virgin before and after her childbirth Protestants in Colloq Ratisb sess 10. p. 318. Who denies it her perpetual Virginitie is an Heretik Zuinglius serm de B. Virgine Maria to 1. fol. 350. I beleue with firme and vndoubted minde the pure chaste and vnspotted Virgin brought forth Christ yet so as without anie spot of Chastitie she remained a Chaste Virgin for euer Luther l. de votis to 2. fol. 272. If anie denie Marie vas à Virgin he is damned Beza in his confession of faith c. 3. sec 3. professeth that she was a Virgin after her Childbirth And why put he it into his confession of faith if he beleued it not to be a point of faith Whitaker also Contro 1. q. 6. c. 9. dares not denie it plainly For being pressed with this argument he saieth It belongeth not to me to dispute of the perpetual Virginitie of Marie Feild l. 3. of the Church c. 30. If these were the opinions of â—ouinian That Marie ceased to be a Virgin when she had born Christ and that al sinns are equal we condemn them and his error therin as much as the Romanists doe Nether can Protestants denie it if they wil obserue the definition of Heresie which sometimes they giue to wit Error against the doctrin of the Church For Beza de puniendis Haeret. p. 150. Moulins l. 1. cont Peron c. 7. Potter sect 2. p. 55 See sup l. 〈◊〉 10. that the perpetual Virginitie of our B Ladie is the doctrin of the Church is euident by the aforesaid Fathers Greek and Latin in the East West and South Nether haue they anie reason to denie it besides their own error That nothing is of faith but what is expresly in Scripture or may be euidently deduced of it Now that this is nether expressed nor euidently collected ouâ— of Scripture granteth Perkins Cathol Refut Contro 7. c. 1. I finde not in holie Scripture that Marie remained alwaies a Virgin and died a Virgin And al Protestants must grant becaus most of them denie it to be a point of faith as Beza Apologia altera contra Saintem p. 355. Academia Nemausiensis contra Iesuit Tornan p. 566. Feild l 4. de Eccles p. 240. Riuet Contro tract 1. 1. sec 20. Iunius Contro 1. l. 4. c. 9 To this point of faith I ad the question of Schisme which as Plessie cited supra c. 5. sec 2. confessed cannot be decided by Scripture becaus it is a matter of fact of which the Scripture speaketh not And yet schisme is as necessarie to be decided as heresie becaus that is as wel damnable as this 4. As for the Fathers they so plainly and directly say there are traditions not written as for breuities sake I wil omit their words and relate the confessions of Protestants Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. vlt. p. 415. I confess the Fathers speak much of traditions The Fathers were sometimes deceaued we grant that the Fathers defended traditions Ibid. c. 12. I grant that Ireneus appealed from Scripture to Apostolical traditions So Perkins it is clear he was deceaued with traditions P. 389. Eusebius his testimonie for traditions is plain enough but no way to be admitted Ibid. It is clear that Basil was too much addicted to traditions Ibid. Damascen was too much giuen to traditions P. 391. Chrysostomus saying for tradition is Morton Appeal p. 315 vnaduised and vnworthie of so great a Father I doe not acknowledg this his tradition Ibid. Epiphanius was too much delighted with traditions He allowes indeed Apostolical Seultettom 2. c. 19. 20. traditions P. 392. Let vs not regard what Cyprian saieth of tradition P. 393. Al is not to be admitted which Ambrose saieth of traditions Ibid. Ether Austin speaketh of vnnecessarie traditions or he contradicteth himself P. 394. Innocentius Primus erred in his traditions Thus he Kemnitius 1. parte Exam. tit de Traditionibus p. 140. Excellent men in the Church besids Scripture gaue too much to traditions P. 141. The admiring of traditions not written drew manie good and excellent men in the Church from the holsome rule of faith And that was done in the first and best times of the Church soone after the Apostles traditions beg an to be thrust vpon the Church This opinion remained and stuck in their successors as in Clement P. 142. Euen good men in the Church were deceaued by too great esteem of not-written traditions P. 143. Admiration of not-written traditions deceaued good and great men in the Church Euen in the best times of the Primitiue Church admiration of not-written traditions could draw most excellent men from the rule of faith Reinolds thesi 1. Basil and Epiphanius assaying al sorts of helps against Heretiks wil haue certain things to be conteined in traditions wherto by the iudgment of the Scripture itself there must be no less credit giuen then to Scripture Perkins in his problem c. de Tradit some Fathers inclining to heretiks did embrace traditions not-written And he reakoneth S. Iustin S. Ireney Clement Alexandrin Eusebius Tertullian And ibid. saieth The Fathers oftentimes speak contradictions about tradition 5. Surely the Fathers testimonies for necessarie traditions must needs be euident which haue forced thes learned and earnest Protestants to confess that the Fathers auouch such kinde of traditions as they reiect wheras no one learned Catholik euer granted that the Fathers reiected such kinde of traditions as they defend Nether can Protestants produce one testimonie of anie Father which expresly or directly denieth such traditions But Protestants infer it out of some Father speeches of the perfection of Scripture and of its conteining al things necessarie which inference is naught For the perfection of Scripture and its conteining al things necessarie may wel stand with traditions as we shal see hereafter 6. Nay Protestants themselues are Protostants admit some traditions forced to admit some necessarie tradition not written Brentius in Prolegomenis contra Sotum c. de traditionibus Wee grant that the tradition wherwith the holie Scripture and what is conteined in it is deliuered vnto vs by our Ancestors is certain firme and vndoubted this tradition is necessarie to vs and in al manner to be embraced Kemnitius parte 1. exam tit de Traditionibus p. 113 This tradition by which the books of the holie Scripture are giuen into our hands we reuerently receaue The Fathers where they deliuer this tradition of the books of Scripture proue it by the testimonies of the Primitiue Church Morton to 1. Apol. l. 1. c. 32. after he had rehearsed the aforsaid words of Brentius of the tradition of Scripture saieth This Ladie and as it were Goddess of al traditions Protestants reuerence more then you Papists And to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 5. The true Canon of Scriptures we must
honor and reuerence as the Queen and plainly Goddess of traditions And l. 1. c 36. relateth the foresaid words of Brentius and alloweth them Feild of the Church l 4. c. 20. Though we reiect the vncertain and vain traditions of the Papists yet we receaue the number and names of the Authors of books diuine and Canonical as deliuered by tradition The number authors and integritie of the partes of these books of Scripture we receaue as deliuered by Integritie of Scripture beleued by Tradition tradition Bel in his Downfal art 7. p 134. We receaue this tradition that the Scripture is the word of God p. 135. And so this tradition is not excepted but virtually included in our affirmation Moulins of Traditions c. 3. and 2◠we reiect not al traditions for Scripture itself is a tradition Carleton in Consensu de Scriptura c. 9. I wil say freely what I think I think there are some Apostolical traditions euer conserued and to be conserued iu the Church For Austin said not in vain what the whole Church obserueth c. So he proued Baptisme of Infants to be an Apostolical tradition so also before him Origen From Apostolical traditiou we receaued the true Canon of Scripture and the true sense of the Canon From hence the Church doth celebrate the Lords day Canon and sense of it receaued by Tradition Aretius loco 33. calleth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Apostles Creed what books are Canonical which is the true exposition of scripture Item Vniuersal traditions necessarie to be obserued are the Apostles Creed which books be Canonical which is the true exposition of the chiefest places of scripture Laude Relat sec 16. p. 104. when the Fathers say we are to relie vpon scripture onely they are neuer to Note this be vnderstood with exclusion of Tradition in what case soeuer it may be had not but that the Scripture is abundantly sufficient in and to it self for al things but becaus it is deep and may be drawn into different senses and so mistaken if anie man wil presume vpon his own strenght and go single without the Church sec 11. p. 44. Some traditions I denie not true and firme and of great both authoritie and vse in the Church as being Apostolical And why is not the Churches tradition concerning Scripture one of these Ibid. As for that tradition That the books of holie Scripture are diuine I wil handle that hereafter And sec 16. cit p. 81. Against this tradition That the books of Scripture are the word of God the Church of England neuer excepted Sess 15. p. 57. It is not denied that this baptisme of infants is an apostolical tradition and therfore note to be beleued Protestants in Colloq Ratisb sess 11. Our aduersaries bring that tradition of Scripture of which there is no Controuersie at al among vs. And sess 1. We grant that Moyses books are Moyses that this is a tradition by the testimonie of the Church which could witnes that Moyses books were put into the Ark. Chillingworth c. 2. § 45. The Canon of Scripture as we receaue it is built vpon vniuersal tradition The Canon is built vpon vniuersal Tradition Vniuersal Tradition rule of Controuersies § 155. Vniuersal tradition is the Rule to iudge al Controuersies by § 114. It is vpon the authoritie of vniuersal tradition that we wold haue them beleue Scripture And though sometimes he teach that this vniuersal tradition is but humane and fallible and consequently Supra c. 2. sect 2. grant his faith of the Scripture and al that is in it is but humane and fallible as we haue seen before yet c. 3. n. 45. he auoucheth it to be as infallible as the Scripture For thus he writeth you were to proue the Church infallible not in her traditions which wee willingly grant if they be as vniuersal as the tradition of the vndoubted books of Scripture is to Vniuersal tradition as infallible a◠Scripture be as infallible as the Scripture is Ibid. § 46. If you can of anie thing make it appeare that it is tradition we wil seek no farther Hooker also l. 3 § 8. If Infidels or Atheists chance at anie time to cal it Scripture in question this giueth vs occasion to sift what reason there is wherby the testimonie of the Church concerning scripture and our own perswasion which scripture itself hath confirmed may be proued a truth infallible Lo the Churches testimonie is a truth infallible And we may rest our assurance vpon a truth infallible and such is more then an inducement to faith Brentius also in the words afore cited saieth the Churches tradition concerning Scripture is certain firme and vndoubted And Morton saieth Protestants reuerence it as it were the Goddess of traditions 7. Moreouer they grant that it is a point of faith That scripture or the Bible is the word of God and as such it is put in their Confessions of faith Nay Hooker l. 1. § 14. saieth Of Anglica art 6. Gallica art 3. Belgica art 4. things necessarie the verie chiefest is to know what books we are bound to esteem holie l. 3. § 8. The main principle whervpon our beleif of al things therin conteined is that the scriptures Protestants main Principle are Oracles of God himself Laude Relat sec 11. § 2. calleth it prime principle of faith sec 16. § 2. Great principle in Diuinitie § 6. Great principle of faith the ground and proof of whatsoeuer is of faith P. 104. Cheifest principle P. 110. Main principle of Diuinitie Chillingworth c. 2. § 11. First principle Whitaker l. 2. de Scriptura p. 218. It is most of al necessarie that the certain Canon of scriptures be vndoubted among Christians Vshers Reioinder p. 63 Of al things this is most sure and ought to be beleued that the scripture is the word of God But this most necessarie most sure this prime this great this main point of faith is no written word of God For thus Laude sec 16. p. 70. There is no place in scripture which tels vs that such books conteining such and such particulars are the Canon and infallible wil and word of God Hooker l 1. § 14. Being perswaded by other means that these Scriptures are the Oracles of God Note themselues doe then teach vs the rest l. 4. § 4. It is not the word of God which doth or possibly can assure vs that we do wel to think it is in his word White in his Way p. 48. The certaintie of the Scripture is not written indeed with letters in anie particular place or book therof And I hope it is not written with Ciphers See more of their like Confessions supra c. 5. sec 2. 8. And yet Hooker l. 5. § 21. saieth We haue no word of God but the Scripture No word of God for their main Principle Whitaker Contro 2. q. 5. c. 18. We acknowledg no other word then written what doctrin soeuer is
not written that we say is bastard Beza in Rom. 1. v. 17. Christians acknowledg no other obiect of faith but the written word of God Perkins in his Reform Cath. Contro 20. c. 2. We acknowledg the onely written word of God Wherfore ether there is some point of faith nay the cheifest point of al an vnwritten word of God or this point That the scripture is the word of God is no point of faith with Protestants Which Chillingworth c. 2. § 4. seemeth plainly to teach where he saieth The controuersies wherin the scripture it self is the subiect of the question cannot be determined but by natural reason § 32. The scripture is none of the material obiects of our faith Scripture no material obiect of faith § 51. Tradition by which Scripture is known is a Principle not in Christianitie but in reason § 159. God requireth of vs vnder pain of damnation onely to beleue the verities therin conteined not the diuine authoritie of the books wherin they are conteined And the same insinuate Whitaker Hooker and White cited supra c. 8. sec 2. Who say that Scripture may be known by reason and light of nature to be the word of God So that the most necessarie most sure prime great main ground of Protestants faith is a principle of natural reason and no obiect of diuine faith or which we are bound to beleue vnder pain of damnation Surely I see not how Protestants can make agree these two main points of their doctrin There is no word of God vnwritten necessarie to be beleued and That scripture is the word of God is a word of God vnwritten necessarie to be beleued The first is the common doctrin of al Protestants who therfore denie that there is anie tradition that is word of God vnwritten necessarie to be beleued and say the Scripture is the perfect and entire rule of faith conteining al that is necessarie to be beleued The second also is their vsual doctrin For that with them it is a word of God That the Scripture is the word of God is euident both becaus they put the Canon of Scripture in their Confessions of faith as a parte of their beleif and Sup n. 7. also because Laude loco cit calleth it a prime principle of faith And Vsher That of al things this ought to be beleued And seing they say their beleif of al other points dependeth on this I suppose they wil not denie this to be a point of faith or Gods word and say it is but a humane principle or word of man That this point is not written is euident For no where it can be shewed and also because Laude White and others cited supra c. 5. sec 2 confess that it is no where written in Scripture And if it were anie where written we could proue Scripture by itself which Whitaker Feild Hooker Couel Chillingworth and others cited c. 5. doe denie And that they account this point necessarie to be beleued I need not proue becaus they account it the most necessarie of al and on which dependeth whatsoeuer els they beleue 9. An other proof that the Scripture doth not sufficiently propose al points of faith may be taken from the Protestants confession That they cannot deduce most of their points of faith in which they differ from vs out of Scripture by anie necessarie Inference but by adding to Scripture some humane principle As they caÌ„not infer out of that saying of Scripture Doe this in Commemoration of me that the Eucharist is not substantially the bodie of Christ but by adding this humane principle A Commemoration cannot be substantially the thing which is commemorated And the like wil appeare in their proof of other their points of faith if they be brought into syllogistical forme And how can that be saied to propose See Vvhites 〈◊〉 16 p. 138. sufficiently al points of faith which doth but partly propose them and needeth the addition of another How can it be called the perfect rule of faith which needeth addition seening we haue shewed before out of the Fathers and their own confession that a Rule needeth no addition C. 5. sect 2. Nay how can they say they beleue those conclusions as points to be infallibly beleued which they being fallible men doe also infer partly out of fallible and humane principles seeing as Laude saieth sec 16. § 3. This is an inuiolable See him sect 19. p. 125. ground of reason That the principle of anie conclusion must be of more credit then the conclusion itself And the same say Whitaker Contro 2. q. 5. c. 18. l. 〈◊〉 de Script p. 166. 392. 416. Potter sec 5. p 14. 15 33. 40 Morton to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 37. Chillingworth Fallible Principles can neuer produce an infallible conclusion c. 2. p. 57. and others commonly Thus haue we proued that Scripture doth not sufficiently propose al points of faith now we wil proue that it doth not propose to al men SIXTEENTH CHAPTER That Scripture doth not sufficiently propose points of faith to al men capable of external proposal 1. THat Scripture doth not sufficiently propose points of faith to al men who are capable of external proposal is euident in the blinde and those who cannot read For the blinde cannot so much as see the letters of the Scripture and those who cannot read cannot see their signification or what they signifie Therfore Scripture of itself doth propose nothing sufficiently vnto them If anie answer that Scripture may be read to them and so propose sufficiently to them I reply First that if Scripture cannot propose to them but by some others reading of it of itself alone it cannot propose and so can be no Rule of faith to them becaus a Rule needeth no help to direct And yet White in his Defense c. 24. p. 105. saith This Rule of faith is of such nature as it is able to direct al men yea the simplest and vnleaâ—nedest aline Secondly that according to Protestants al men are fallible and may read wrong ether of purpose or of ignorance And the Scriptures proposal were not infallible if it vsed a fallible help Surely the blinde or ignorant men can haue no greater assurance then moral that the Reader readeth true For what diuine infallible assistance can he be thought to haue in reading true And it were madness to say he hath diuine assistance in reading true and to denie that the true Church of God hath the like assistance in teaching true 2. And as D. Potter saieth sec 5. p. 7. The assent of diuine faith is absolutly diuine which requires an obiect and motiue so infallibly true as that it nether hath nor can possibly admit anie mixture of error or falshood And he should haue said it cannot possibly admit anie mixture of fallibilitie And doubtles anie particular mans reading is fallible How then can the blinde or ignorant men haue faith absolutly diuine whose motiue is Gods
word read by a particular fallible man If anie answer that Reading to them is but à condition of their beleuing but the whole motiue is Gods word which is written I replie First that their beleif dependeth vpon this condition and how can infallible faith depend vpon à condition which is fallible Secondly that thus the word Read and not Written must be the formal cause of their beleif And so Scripture is not the formal cause of their faith For Scripture is onely the word written I ask therfore what is the external formal cause of the blinde and ignorant mens beleif of that which is in Scripture For some such external cause there must be as Whitaker l. 1. de Scrip. c. 6. p. 64. Potter and others grant not the doctrin it self For that is the material obiect of their faith and the thing which is beleued Nor the writing of it or letters of the Scripture For that they perceaue or vnderstand not Nor the Reading For that is fallible 3. If anie say that the doctrin is both the material and formal cause of their beleif becaus it is credible for itself I replie First that this Credibilitie for itself or internal light in the doctrin is feigned and refuted heretofore in that we said before c. 14. of the Scripture Secondly that assent to doctrin for itself cannot be faith becaus faith is an assent for authoritie of some that proposeth doctrin Thirdly that thus Scripture or writing is no formal cause of beleif as Protestants said before c. 11. sec 1. but meerly doctrin is that cause and that writing is but a conseruer or pointer to diuine doctrin but no cause at al of beleuing it Let them then not say that Scripture is the principal external formal cause of their beleuing what they beleue but confess that Scripture or writing of diuine doctrin serues them to no more then Reading serues the blind or ignorant who as they haue the same faith which the learned so must they haue the same external formal cause of faith which they haue but that al the formal cause of their beleuing what they finde in Scripture is the internal light of the doctrin it self and that they haue no external formal cause of their beleif of it and that writing or reading of it doth but point to the veritie or light of the doctrin as they say of the Churches testimonie of the Scripture that it doth but point at the word of God which is to destroie al formal faith which is an assent for authoritie and to become Enthusiasts and to make al Christian doctrin ridiculous to Infidels in telling them that Christians haue no external formal cause why they beleue ether the Scripture to be written by Gods inspiration or that which is in it to be Gods doctrin beside the Scripture or doctrin itself And that as the Church doth but point to the diuinitie of the Scripture but is no formal cause of our beleuing it to be diuine So the Scripture doth but point at the diuinitie of the doctrin which it conteineth but is no formal cause of beleuing it to be diuine doctrin Nether can they giue a good reason why they should say that Gods writing should be credible of be credible of itself to be Gods writing and need onely the Churches pointing to it for to beleue that it is Gods writing and that Gods doctrin should not be credible of itself to be his doctrin and need onely the Scriptures pointing to it that it is his doctrin For why should not Gods doctrin be as credible of itself to be his writing And so al external formal causing of beleif is gon and onely pointing to the obiect of beleeif is left And Protestants must not say that they beleue anie thing becaus it is in Scripture but onely pointeth to what they beleue as they say they beleue not Scripture to be the word of God becaus the Church testifieth that it is so but for it self being pointed to by the Church See Chillingworth supra c. 11. sec 2. SEAVENTENTH CHAPTER That the Scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al times vvhen faith vvas had 1. THat Scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al times when points of faith were beleued is euident For there was no Scripture til Moises and yet therewas true faith euer before since Adam Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 7. I grant that there is no Scripture ancienter then Moises books and that religion remained pure al that time without Scripture Ibid. c. 16 I grant that God from Adam to Moises kept Religion kept by tradition more then 2000. years doctrin deliuered by liuing voice that is traditions not written Item c. 7. cit Some barbarous men for a time wanted Scripture For a time doctrin may be kept entire without writing Item q. 3. c. 10. I grant there was a time when the word was not written and then was the Church Kemnice 1. parte Exam. tit de Scriptura p. 14. From the beginning of the world for 2450. yeares heauenly Moulins of Tradition c. 17. doctrin by diuine voice reuealed was proposed and from hand deliuered without Scripture diuinely inspired And ibid. p. 41. It is clear that the Apostles for some first yeares deliuered and spread Apostolik doctrin without anie writing of theirs by onely liuelie voice 2. Chillingworth c 2 n. 159. Ireneus tels vs of some barbarous Nations that beleued the doctrin of Christ and yet beleued not the Scripture to be the word of God For they neuer heard of it and faith comes of hearing 3. Dauenant de Iudice c. 5. We grant that before Moyses the word of God Before Moyses Tradition was sufficient not written and propagated to Posteritie by continual tradition was a sufficient Rule of faith Rainolds Conclus 1. God reuealed his wil without writing to Adam and from Adams time til Moises 4. And was the Church of God for 2400. years before Christ infallible in al points of faith and is she not after Christ infallible in the most fundamental point of al concerning Scripture was the tradition of the Church for al that time an infallible rule of faith and it is not now Is the Church since Christs Hebr. 7. time of worse condition then it was then or did men in that time ordinarily beleue ether without some external means or motiue which is Prophetical and miraculous or did they beleue infallibly for the tradition of the Church at that time which was fallible Whitaker l. 1. de Script p. 64. saieth We ask which is that external cause for which we must beleue For there must Some external cause infallible be some external cause seing faith is not bred in vs nor produced of the Holie Ghost without external causes vnles miraculously and is of hearing And l. 3. c. 10. p. 415. As the Doctrin and religion which we profess is heauenlie and diuine such also must be the reason and
to this argument to which Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 14. saieth no Papist euer answered suffictently or can answer 3. The Protestants second place is Galat. 1 where is saied If anie Euangelize to you be side what we haue Euangelized let him be Anathema Catholiks answer that the Apostle by Beside meaneth so beside as is contrarie First becaus both the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the Latin Praeter is vsually so taken And Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 14. saieth I grant that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 may wel be translated contra Secondly becaus els he should haue accursed S. Ihon who after this wrote his Apocalyps in which there are some things which S. Paul neuer told to the Galathians Thirdly becaus the Fathers Ambrose Hierom Chrysostom Theophilact Oecumenius Austin so plainly expound it as Whitaker loco cir saieth we need not answer them And S. Chrysostom eypoundeth it of such an addition to the Scripture which ouerturneth ether al or anie parte of the Gospel And S. Austin tract 98. in Ioan proueth it becaus otherwise S. Paul had accursed himself who desired to come again to the Thessalonians that he might haue adde what was wanting to their faith Fourthly becaus the Apostle there speaketh of a thing which was not onely beside but also contrarie to what he had preached to wit the keeping of the law of Moises which he called an other Gospel And of it and such like he said iustly that he deserued to be accursed who should teach beside what he had preached to the Galathians to whome being but rude it is not like he had as then preached al points of faith whatsoeuer I may ad also that Traditions are not beside the Scripture becaus the Scripture teacheth them mediatly in sending vs to the Church whome it testifieth to teach al truth In which sense it may be S. Austin l. 3. contra Petilian c. 6. saied that he were Anathema who shold teach anie thing which belongeth to our faith and life beside that which we haue receaued in the legal and Euangelical scripture becaus al that belongeth to our faith or life is mediatly in Scripture though perhaps by beside he mean contrarie as he doth tract 98. cit and l. 17. contra Faustum c. 3. and l. 23. c. 7. For in the aforesaid place he speaketh of flying schisme contravnitatem Christi which is not only beside but indeed contrarietoholie Scripture And Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 14. euen vrging this place of the Apostle saieth Traditions agreable to scripture are to be receaued and who receaue them not are condemned These Fathers speake of Traditions agreable to scriptures So that Traditions agreable to Scripture are not condemned here by the Apostle and approued by Fathers and admitted by Protestants 4. As for what they alleadge out of some Fathers that Scripture conteineth al things necessarie proueth no more then what we haue said before that it conteineth the summe of Christian faith al things that are necessarie to be explicitly beleued of euerie one and the greatest parte of the rest and mediatly al points of faith whatsoeuer but not that it conteineth immediatly al points whatsouer For S. Hilaire l. 2. de Trinit speaking of the forme of Baptisme saieth what is it that is not conteined in that sacrament of mans saluation Hierom. praefat in libros Paralipomenon Al learning of scripture is conteined in this book S. Austin serm 194. serm 130. The Creed conteineth al the mysteries of our faith Nor the Fathers only speak thus but euen both Catholiks and Protestants also For Catechismus ad Parachos in Praefat. § 12. saith the Apostles Creed conteineth al things that are to be beleued and our Lords praier al that is asked The like saieth the Caluinist French Catechisme Luther in c. 15. Genesis that Melchisedechs speech to Abraham conteineth al that can be said of Religion Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 48. The Lords praier conteineth al that we are to ask of God And in Math. 16. v. 18. That Peters Confession conteineth the whole summ of our saluation Which kinde of speeches no man vnderstandeth of euerie particular thing that we are to beleue or ask of God Besids manie Protestants doe grant that Scripture doth not contein euerie particular point of faith no not their most fundamental point of al which is that itself is the word of God And Laude cited l. 2. c. 5. sec 2. saieth that when the Fathers say we are to relie vpon Scripture onely they are neuer to be vnderstood with exclusion of Tradition in whatsoeuer it may be had and that without the Churches help we may mistake the Scripture And Feild ibid. That they doe not make the Scripture the rule of their faith but that other things in their kinde are Rules likewise in such sorte as it is not safe without respect had vnto them to iudge of things by the Scripture alone And also White cited l. 1. c. 10. That the Doctrin of the Church is an infallible Rule and the Rule of faith And Baro ibid. That Tradition is an infallible Rule And Chillingworth ibid. That vniuersal Tradition is as infallible as the Scripture And out of this is also answered that the Fathers cal Scripture The Rule or A Rule of faith For they cal also the Apostles Cred so As Tertullian l. Praescrip c. 13. S. Austin serm de Symbolo S. Ireney l. 1. c. 1. S. Epiphanius haeres 31. and others And Protestants as Kemnice in locis p. 10. Perkins in his reformed Catholik at the end and vpon the Creed in the beginning and Plessie de Eccles c. 8. saieth The Fathers cal it ordinarily the Rule of faith Potter sec 7. p. 78. 89. And yet mean not that it conteineth immediatly al points of faith whatsoeuer Nay a Rule is not to contein al faith but to regulate al. 5. Hence also may be answered what Protestants obiect that if the Scripture contein not al points of faith whatsoeuer it should be imperfect For imperfect is that onely which hath not al that it ought to haue And Scripture hath al the points of faith which it ought to haue and therfore is perfect As the Creed conteineth al that it ought to haue and therfore is a perfect Rule though it contein not absolutly al points of faith whatsoeuer And yet Chillingworth cited aboue c. 5. granteth that Scripture is not absolutly a perfect Rule But seeing Scripture and the Creed haue al for which they were made both are to be accounted perfect Rules and not to be accounted imperfect becaus they haue not something for which they were not made It sufficeth that they can sufficiently rule al that for ruling of which they were made And Protestants suppose but neuer can proue that ether the Creed was made or the Scripture written to rule immediatly al points of faith whatsoeuer Nay some of them confess the contrarie as we shewed before c. 5. sec 2. who must as wel answer what is brought to proue the Scripture to contein immediatly al points of faith whatsoeuer or to be the immediat Rule of al points of faith as we Faults of Print to be Corrected Page 4. lin 13. know cor known ibid. lin 24. wete cor were P. 12. lin 1. mate cor make P. 42. lin 16. sels cor self P. 80. lin 17. ad cor and. P. 94. lin 14. as cor is P. 101. lin vlt. vs. cor as P. 157. lin 2. ir cor is P. 189. lin 9. after sinles ignorance ad of sinful ignorance P. 217. lin 18. lightly cor highly P. 223. in margine Et. cor Est P. 259. lin 21. enough cor is enough P. 260. lin 6. is diuine cor is not diuine P. 330. lin 19. beleue not dele not P. 343. lin 12. ad be P. 352. lin 23. ad such P. 260. lin 5. dele and. P. 481. lin 3. add of P. 489. lin 18. fof cor for P. 502. lin 11. adde cor added
OF THE AL-SVFFICIENT EXTERNAL PROPOSER OF MATTERS OF FAITH DEVIDED INTO TVVO BOOKES IN THE FIRST Is proued that the true Church of God is the Al-sufficient external Proposer of matters of Faith IN THE SECOND Is shewed the manifold vncertanities of Protestants concerning the scripture and how scripture is or is not an entire Rule of Faith By C. R. Doctor of Diuinitie 1. Timothe 4. The Church of the liuing God the pillar and ground of truthe At PARIS M. DC LIII THE PREFACE to the Reader 1. NAtural reason gentle Twoe waies to learn truthe Reader teacheth vs that what we can not know by ourselues we should learne by authoritie of others and according as their authoritie is vndoubted or probable toyeeld assured or probable assent therto and the same reason teacheth vs also that as the See infra l. 2. c. 8. sect 1. clear sight of God in heauen is supernatural to vs and far aboue the reach of our reason so is also the right way therto Wherfore as S. Devâ—â—l â—redendi 〈◊〉 16. 8. 17. Augustin rightly sayeth if God wil haue men come to him in heauen he must needs haue instituted some authoritie on earth for to direct them assuredlie in the right way becaus by reason we cannot finde way to heauen known by authoritie out that way Which authoritie must be infallible because otherwise it could not assuredlie direct vs as also becaus it is to direct vs by diuine faith which is altogether infallible And herein is Gods goodnes to be admired that he would bring men to heauen rather by authoritie and faith then by knowledg and reason becaus euerie one can beleeue but not euerie one konw hard matters And in al that is hitherto saied Catholiks and Protestants generally agree The controuersie between them is in whome God hath setled this assured authoritie for to direct and guide vs infallibly in our way to heauen 2. For Catholiks say that as God Authoritie setled in men at the first set this authoritie in his Prophets and Apostles so becaus they were not to liue with vs for euer he continueth it in his Church which he hath made his spouse the mother and mistres of the faithful the pillar and ground of truth his mistical body wherof Christ is head and the Holy Ghost the Soule who is to teach her all truth and in whose heart is alwaies Gods Word beleued in her mouth his word preached and in her hands his word written But Protestants becaus they can shew no Church before Luther who taught in substance the same waie to heauen which they doe as I haue otherwere Lib. 2. de Authore Protestâ— Ecclesia shewed by their own plaine and manifold confessions are forced to denie that God hath setled this infallible authoritie in his Church for to direct vs and guide vs infalliblie to heauen and doe grant her no more authoritie in matters of faith then a whâ—tat Cont. 1. q. 5. c. 20. l. 1. dâ— script 144. l. 2. p. 254. â—71 l 3. p. 435. mere humane enen in the b Laude sec 16. n. 26. 61. most fundamental points of al. Naie some of them saïe she hath c whitat Cont. 1. q. 3 c. 3. l. 1. de script p. 153. l. 2. p. 235. Caluin Actor 15 v. 28. See infra l. 2. c. 10. sec 2. and l. 1. c. 2. §. 8. no authoritie at al in matters of faith So they abase the authoritie or rather take awaie al authoritie in matters of faith from their Mother and Mistres in faith from the spouse of Christ from the pillar and ground of truth from her whose head Christ is and whose soule is the Holie Ghost who teacheth her al truth And this The roote of al heresie is the true roote of al heresies not to beleue that the true Church of God the pillar an t ground of truth whome the Holie Ghost teacheth al truth is an infaillible guide apointed by God to direct vs assuredly to heauen For euerie one would follow her none would oppose her whome they confess to be an infallible Guide 3. Protestants grant euerie one of the Prophets or Apostles to haue been infallible in matters of faith and yet cannot shew so mainie nor so plaine testimonies of Scripture for their infallibilitie as we can shew for the infallibilitie of the Church But al infallibilitie in matter of faith they wil put in the scripture as vsually al d Tâ—rtul dâ— prâ—wr c 15. Hilar l. ad Constant. August epâ—s 222. Hâ—eron in Galat. 〈◊〉 Sed infrâ— l. 2. c. 14. seq heretiks did because they wil vnderstand that as thy please and so indeed put al infallibilitie in themselues though nether scripture saith that itselfe is infallible nor was it written for aboue 2000. yeares before Moyses nor was it in al places or times when and where infallible faith was nor itself can shew the way to heauen to them that cannot read it nor sheweth that which Protestants account the most fundamental point of faith or al other points so clearly as it neede no interpreter See infra l. 2. c. 4. see 2. as we shal hear Protestants themselues confess 4. And can any reasonable man perswade himself that God hath setled al infallible authoritie forto direct men assuredly to heauen in that which he conffessth God neuer saied is infallible nor it was in al times or places where and when men were infallibly guided in their way to heauen which cannot by it self guide the greatest part of men which teacheth them not the most necessaire point of al nor al points so clearly as it need not some interpreter and yet say they withal God hath not giuen vs any infallible interpreter I add also that who follow it for their onlie guide in matters of faith haue no constancie nor vnitie in faith nor yet any hope of vnitie Is such â e See infra l. 1. c. 8. n. 6. one mens onelie assured guide to heauen 5. We produce the express word of God that his true Church is the pillar and ground of truthe and that the holie Ghost teacheth her al truth let Protestants produce the like express word of God that the book called scripture is the pillar and ground of truth and that it teacheth al truth You must saieth f Cont. Pra. â—eam l. 11. Tertullian proue as clearly as I doe Bring á proof like to mine And S. Augustin Read as plaine words as these are which we read to you Doe l. de vnis c. 6. 14. not bring vs your consequences or inferences of which we may â—ay with S. Augustin g Serm. 14. de verb. Apost This is a humane argument not diuine authoritie h See iâ—fra l. 25. 3. sâ—c 1. Protestants vse to say that al things necessarie to be beleued are expresly in scripture and need no inference and that faith relieth not on argument but on authoritie let
them keep this in this main controuersie legant let them read in Scripture not themselues infer out of Scripture that God hath set al infallible authoritie for matters of faith in Scripture and we wil beleue them as i l. de vnitate c. 17. S. Augustin saied in the like case to the donatists and k laude Relat sec 33. Chillirg p. 3 33 Protestants saie in the dislike to vs or I wil els say with the same S. Augustin I beleue what God saieth not l de vnita c. 11. what vaine heretiks babble or what fallible men infer 6. Nay Protestants are so far from reading in Scripture that in it is al infallible authoritie for matters of faith as themselues m seâ— infra l. 2. c. 5. sec 2. confess â—hat by Scripture al things absolutâ—ly cannot be proued which are to be beleued That Scripture is not an absolutly perfect Rule of controuersies that it cannot decide the question of Schisme that it is not safe to iudge al things by scripture alone that it doth not contein simply al things which are necessarie to saluation that it cannot assure vs that it is the word of God That it needeth an interpreter for some points of faith Which are to far from the nature of an al-sufficient infallible guide of men in matters of faith and so far from the nature of an al-sufficient rule in matters of faith as I think no iudicious Protestant can in his iudgment ioine them together For it is plain contradiction to be Al-sufficient and to be deficient in so main and so manie points 7. And not with standing though Hou scripture is necessarie and a rule in Scripture be not that Al-sufficient authoritie which God hath instituted on earth for to direct men by right faith to heauen nor it be the entire or the necessarie Rule â—or the very being of infallible faith yet it is necessarie to the better being of faith and a sufficient Rule both for al fundamental or al simply necessarie points of faith and also for the most points of Christian faith and à mediate rule for al of them And this being al that for which Scripture was written and which it ought to haue it is to be accounted a perfect â—ule becaus euerie thing is perfect when it hath al that it ought to haue And herein we grant more perfection to Scripture then Protestants doe both because we teach that it containeth al that we account absolutly necessarie or fundamental to saith Protestants say it teacheth not that which they account the most fundamental point of al to wit that it self is the word of God and also becaus we say that eâ—her immediatâ—ly or mediatly it teacheth clearly al points of faith what soeuer in that it sendeth vs to the true Church which teacheth clearly al points But Protestants say that nether immediatly nor mediatly it teacheth some clearly and sendeth vs not to any infallible interpreter So that S. Augustin l. 1. cont Creson c. 33. we grant both more vniuerâ—alitie and also more claritie to Scripure then Protestants do though they wold seem to maâ—e more of scripture them we doe but in truth make so litle of the Scripture as Chilling 〈◊〉 2. 6. 32. v. 9. some of them teach that we are not bound vnder paine of damnation to beleue the diuine authoritie of Scâ—ipture Nay say that the Scripture is none of the material obiects of faith that we haâ—e as great reason to beleue there was a King Henrie VIII as that which is saied in Sâ—ripture of Christ suffering See infra l. 2. c. 8. sec 2. and c. 15. n. 2 vnder Pontius Pilat which is in effect to say we haâ—e as great reason to beleue some men as to beleue God For not al but some men say there was a King Henrie VIII and both God and in a manner al men say thar Christ suffered vnder Pontius Pilat INDEX OF THE CHAPTERS OF the first Book I. IN which is enplicated the question touching the iâ—fallibilitie of the Church II. In which are set down the rational grounds of what is saied in this treatise concerning the Church III. What conditions are necessarie to the Al-sufficient external Proposer of points of faith IV. That God can giue to men a diuine infallibilitie or veracitie in proposing matters of faith V. That the true Church of God is a sufficient and infallible Proposâ—r of al which she proposeth as points of faih proued by what she is saied to be in Scripture VI. That the true Church of God is infallibilible in al she proposeth as points of faith proued by Gods promises to her in Scripture VII That the true Church of God is an infallible proposer of matters of faith proued by the holie Fathers VIII That the true Church of God is infallible in matters of faith proued by Reason IX Some of the protestants reasons against the infallibilitie of the true Church of God in matters of faith answered X. That the true Church of God is infallible in matters of faith proued by manifold coufessions of protestants XI That the true Church of God is in ordinarie Course a necessarie Propeposer of al points of faith proued by holy Fathers XII That the true Church of God is a necessarie Proposer of al points of faith proued by Reason XIII That the true Church of God is a necessarie proposer of al points of faith proued by plain confessions of Protestants XIV That Protestants grant the Churches authoritie to be diuinâ— XV. That Protestants grant it to be a supernatural cause of saith XVI How a vicious circle is auoided in prouing the Church by the Scripture and the scripture by the Church XVII How we are to answer that question How know yoâ— the Scripture to be the word of Gode XVIII That the true Church of God doth clearly and vniuersally propose al points of faith XIX Which is a sufficient Proposal of the Church for points of faith INDEX Of the Chapters of the second Book I. PRocestants vncertain which books be canonical Scripture II. Protestants vncertain whither al that is in scripture be plain and easie to be vnderstood or no. III. Protestants vncertain whether al things necessarie to be beleued be actually in scripture or no. IV. Protestants vncertain whether al things necessarie to be beleued be clearly in scripture or no. V. Protestants vncertain whether scripture be the onlie and entire Rule of faith or no. VI. Protestants vncertain whether scripture of itself do sufficiently shew it self to be the word of God or no. VII Protestants vncertain whether scripture be a true Iudge of Controuersies or no. VIII Protestants vncertain whether scripture be to be beleued to be Gods word with infallible asseurance or no. IX Protestants vncertain whether translated scripture be Authentical or no. X. Protestants vncertain whether scripture be to be beleued to be the word of God only for the Churches testimonie or no. XI Protestants
authoritie both of God and of his Church in matters of faith and therfore the resolution of our beleef into ether of them is sufficient and rational For as when a King sendeth an Embassadour to tel vs some thing we beleue with humane faith what is told vs for the authoritie of them both as for one entire adioint cause of our beleef yet differently prinpally for the Kings authoritie and secondarily for the authoritie of his faithful Embassador so what we beleue with diuine faith we beleue for the authoritie both of God and of his Church as for one entire and total cause of our beleef but principally for the authoritie of God See infra c. 11 n. 1. and secondarily for the authoritie of his Church but with this difference that the King nether giueth nor increaseth the fidelitie of his Embassador but God giueth to his Church al the fidelitie she hath for matters of faith Wherfore al Christian faith is lastly resolued into Christs outward speach to his Church and into her outward speaking to vs both which speakers and speakings are but one in such sorte as is *q Sup. n. 12. before declared And when the Apostle saied Rom. 10. Faith is of hearing he meant not of hearing internally by inspiration Vvitaker cont 2. q. 4. c. 2 who hear the Church heaâ— Christ him â—elf but of hearing externally by preaching and doubtles meant of a last resolution of faith For hearing Christes lawful Preachers we heare him as before we shewed And the resolution of diuine faith into the Churches authoritie is both sufficient becaus her authoritie in matters of faith is plainly diuine and is also agreable to mens manner of getting faith who in ordinarie course are to haue their faith not from God immediatly speaking to them but from the Church immediatly speaking to them from God and therfore their faith is to be resolued immediatly into the authoritie of the Church and mediatly into the authoritie of God Wherfore wel saied Bellarmin l. 6. de Grat. lib. arb c. 3. Catholiks haue infallible faith becaus what they beleue they beleue becaus God saied it and that God said it they beleue becaus the Church testifieth it For what we beleue Christ told it to his Church and she hauing euer continued til our time telleth it vnto vs. And seing Protestants grant that faith may be welresolued into the authoritie of the r Infra c. 4. 〈◊〉 8. Apostles or of the s L. 2. c. 11. sect 1. scripture or vniuersal tradition becaus though their t Infra c. 10. n. 3. 6. 7. 9. authoritie be create yet by Gods efficacious assistance it is plainly diuine and infallible they shold not denie that faith may be also resolued into the authoritie of the Church becaus it is create authoritie seing Christ hath most clearly promised to assist his Church most efficaciously and also that the Apostle testifieth Rom. 10. That Faith hath its being from hearing the preaching of the Church And euerie thing is rightly resolued into that of which it hath its verie being especially seing the voice of the Church is the voice of Christ and that hearing her we hear him THIRD CHAPTER VVhat conditions are necessarie to the Al-sufficient external Proposer of pointes of faith appointed by God 1. CATHOLICKS and Protestants agree that there Twoe kindes of Proposers of faith are two kindes of Proposer of points of faith vnto men The one Internal who proposeth them internally to our mindes The other external who proposeth them externally to our senses Secondly they agree that the Internal Proposer is the Holie Ghost and the external some instituted by him Thirdly they agree that the Internal Proposer can by himself alone sufficiently propose al points of faith to vs and engender faith in vs without concurse of the external Proposer Fourethly they agree that ordinarilâ—y the Internal Proposer neuer proposeth points of faith to our mindes nor engendereth faith in vs but with the concurse and proposal of the external Proposer Fiftly they agree that the External Proposer can no way engender diuine faith in vs without the concurse of the internal So that they agree in al points touching the Internal Proposer and also concerning the External Proposer that there is such a one instituted of God that his concurse ordinariely is necessarie and that he cannot engender faith without concurse of the Internal Proposer but they disagree about the conditions necessarie to such an external Proposer and who he is but if we finde out the conditions necessarie to such a Proposer we shal easily finde who he is 2. The first condition necessarie to a sufficient external Proposer of Conditions necessarie to the external Proposer points of faith is that he be some intellectual person or Companie of Intellectual Persons This is euident out of the very word it self For a Propâ—ser signifieth a person who proposeth And also becaus to propose points to be beleued is an act of vnderstanding and as our Sauiour saied to the first Proposers instituted by himself is to teach and preach or as the Apostle also speaketh to preach and to teach or Math. vlt. Marc. vlt. Rom. 10. preach are acts of vnderstanding Secondly becaus as we shal proue hereafter the external Proposer is instituted by God for to moue men to beleue points of faith for his authoritie and al authoritie properly speaking is in some intellectual person Whervpon when the Apostle saied Rom. 10. How shal they beleue without à Preacher he added that the Preacher must be lawfully sent which lawful sending giueth him authoritie or credit that he is worthie to be beleued in what he proposeth Thirdly becaus vnles we make the proposer to be some Person or persons we confound Proposer with proposal which are things clearly distinct and the Proposer is some person his Proposal is his word or writing so that a word or writing is no Proposer but onely à Proposal If anie obiect that the Church is proposed in the Apostles Creed to be beleued as wel as other points of faith are and being a thing proposed it cannot be the Proposer of al points of faith I denie the consequence For the Church being a companie of intellectual persons it can propose it self to be beleued to be the true Church as the Prophets and the Apostles proposed themselues to be such as wel as anie other thing which they preached But a dead writing caÌ„not sufficiently propose it self as a Sup. c. 2. n. 5. Chillingworth before confessed and others b L. 2. c. 6. sect 2. hereafter wil confess of the scripture And the reason hereof is becaus a writing hath not of it self anie formal authoritie Besides though the Proposer and proposed may sometimes be the same thing yet the Proposer and Proposal cannot because the Proposal is that wher with the Proposer proposeth what is to be beleued as the writings of the Prophets or Apostles were their
witnes Sutclif l. 1. de Eccles c. 1. p. 11. we doubt not but the Church is a faithfull witnes of the scripture Beza 1. Tim. 3. v. 15. The Church is witnes and conseruer of truth amongst men Feild of the Church l. 4. c 6. The Churches office of teaching and witnessing the truth Potter sec 5. p. 9. To the Church we willingly attribute these two excellent vses first of witnes testifying the authoritie and sense of scripture to vs Secondly of Gods instrument by whose ministerie in preaching and expounding the scriptures the Holie Ghost breeds a diuine faith in vs. Whitaker controu 1. q. 3. c. 1. The Churches testimonie must be receaued Ibid. The Church deliuereth the rule of faith as witnes Controu 2. q. 5. c. 18. The Church is an external witnes and interpreter of truth l. 1. de scrip p. 15. we may be forced by the authoritie of the Church to acknowledg the Scripture Caluin 4. Instit. c. 1. §. 10. Moulins Buâ—leâ— sec 104. P. 19. The Churches testimonie must be receiued and who receaueth it not is guiltie of Sacriledg Ibid. it is the office of the Church and Pastors to testifie of the scriptures P. 22. The Church hath authoritie to testifie those things which are of faith P. 46. we cannot beleue but by the testimonie of the Church as by the ordinarie means P. 49. I haue told what offices the Church hath touching scripture First it is to be witnes and keeper of the scripture Ibid. Indeed the Church is witnes of faith 7. You see how the euidencie of the Churches Infallibilitie in witnessing Gods truth forceth Protestants to speak at least as Catholicks doe howsoeuer they think not so For they say she is a faithful witnes she hath authoritie to testifie Gods truth her authoritie can force men to acknowledg the scripture Her testimonie must be receiued and who receaueth it not is guiltie of sacriledg And hath she of her humane nature to be a faithful witnes of supernatural truths hath she of herself authoritie to testifie such truths can her humane authoritie forcemen to acknowledg things aboue sense and reason Is it sacriledg not to receiue humane testimonie Pastors are to consummate Saints 8. The fourth argument we wil take from that the Scripture saieth that God hath put Pastors in the Church for to consummate Saints and to keep them vnited and constant in diuine faith til we meet al in one Ephes 4. v. 11. And he gaue some Apostles and some Prophets others some EuaÌ„ge lists and others Pastors and Doctors to the consummation of Saints for edification of the bodie of Christ vntil we meet in the vnitie of faith That now we be not Children and carried about with euerie winde of doctrin Out of which place I argue thus in forme whome God putteth in the Church as he put Apostles Prophets and Euangelists for to consummate Saints and to keep them vnited and constant in diuine infallible faith to them he hath giuen diuine infallibilitie in matters of faith but so he put the Pastors and Doctors of the Church Therfore to them he hath giuen diuine infallibilitie in matters of faith The Maior is euident both becaus to the Apostles Prophets and Euangelists such infallibilitie was giuen and therfore the like to others whome God putteth in the Church for the same end he put them as also becaus if they had not diuine Infallibilitie they were nether fit nor able to consummate Saints and keep them vnited and constant in diuine infallible faith For humane veracitie cannot make men diuinely assured Some Protestants may say that this proueth that Pastors of the Church haue Infallibilitie in fundamental points but not in al points But beside what we haue saied before of this distinction and that it is here both new and groundles and therfore a mere voluntarie and irrational shift it is clearly refuted First becaus Pastors are saied to be put for the same end for which the Apostles Prophets and Euangelists were to wit to consummate saints and to keep them vnited and constant in al points of diuine faith And also Pastors are saied to be put in the Church in the same manner for that end as the Apostles were Secondly becaus Saints are not consummate if they be suffered to err in anie points of faith Thirdly m Laude sec 16. p 65. 91. Seâ— the Prefacen 2. Protestants wil not grant diuine Infallibilitie to Pastors euen in fundamental points and the Apostle speaketh of diuine infallibilitie such as the Prophets and Apostles had And if Protestants would in deed grant diuine infallibilitie in fundameÌ„tal points to Pastors I think they would not stick to grant them diuine infallibilitie in other points of faith 8. Wherfore Chillingworth c. 3. n. 79. and seq seemeth to grant that the Pastors wherof the Apostle speaketh had diuine infallibilitie in al points of faith as the Apostles had but denieth that he speaketh of Chilling turneth Pastors vnto writings Pastors succeeding the Apostles but onely of such as in the Apostles time had immediat reuelation and that they consummate Saints and keep them vnited and constant in faith for euer by their writing But this Exposition or limitation of the Apostles words to Pastors onely in the time of the Apostles First is new for he citeth no ancient auther for it and therfore is iustly suspected secondly it hath no ground in the Apostles words and therfore is ameere voluntarie and irrational shift to delude the true sense of them Thirdly becaus no Pastors of the Apostles time distinct from Apostles and Euangelists wrote anie thing For S. Mark and S. Luke were Euangelists and al other writers were Apostles And S. Paul speaketh of Pastors who were different from both Apostles and Euangelists nor saieth he that the Pastors writings were put in the Church to conâ—ummate Saints but the Pastors themselues were put for that end and Chillingworth in effect wil not that Pastors were put but onely their writings becaus not those infallible Pastors but onely their writings were to coÌ„tinue in the Church for euer Wheras the Apostle speaketh not of writings but of men to wit of infallible Pastors that were to continue for euer Lastly it is contrarie to the common sense of Protestants who out of this place doe gather that there shal beal waies Pastors in the Church as Melancthon to 1. Lutheri disp de Politia Eccles fol. 442. Kemnitius 2. parte Exam p. 192. Caluin 4. Instit c. 3. § 2. and vpon this place Whitaker Controu 4. q. 1. c. 3. p. 634. and others And besids now Sâ—â— l. 2. 〈◊〉 6. sec 2. Protestants grant that no Scripture is of it self without the testimonie of the Pastors of the Church sufficient to proue anie point to be beleued with diuine faith much less to consummate Saints and keep them constant and vnited in such faith Wherfore S. Paul meant not of anie writings of infallible Pastors in the Apostles
direct places of Scripture as Catholiks bring for the infallibilitie of the Church onely prudential motiues To say nothing of the testimonie of Fathers conuincent reasons and plain confession of Protestants which hereafter we shal bring for the same purpose 6. To al the former proofes of the infallibilitie of the Church taken out of holie Scripture I wil add one taken from the Apostles Creed or Symbol which c Caluin 2. Instit. c. 16. §. 8. Vvhitaker l. 3. de script c. 3 sect 1. Protestants say is an Epitome of the Scripture ad conteineth al fundamental points of faith For in that we profess to beleue the holie Catholik Church And holie she cannot be if she sinfully err in anie point of faith becaus euerie sinful error in faith is heresie and euerie heresie a sin which excludeth out of heauen Nor Catholik she could be if she err sinfully or not sinfully in anie matter of faith becaus Catholik includeth orthodoxie that is right beleef as is euident becaus Catholik is opposit to heretik as also becaus the Fathers affirme it as d L. 1. in Gen. Epist. 48. S. Austin S. e Catâ—chesi â—8 Cyril S. f Epist 5. Pation and g Optatus l. 1. others And namely S. h L. de vniâ—ate Austin sayeth that though Christians were spred ouer the world and yet did not beleue aright they were not Catholiks Which sheueth that Catholik doth not include onely diffusion but also Orthodoxie And if the Church be euermore orthodox she is euermore vnerring in matters of faith and we professing in our Creed that she is euer Catholik profess that she iâ— euer vnerring in matters of faith which is to be as infallible as we mean and as Laude sec 21. § 5. saieth wel If we wil keep vp our Creed the whole militant Church must be holie And holie she cannot be if she sinfully err anie waie against faith which is the foundation of al holines SEAVENT CHAPTER That the true Church of God is a sufficient and infallible Proposer â—f al points of faith proued by the holie Fathers 1. S. Ireney l. 3. c. 4. It is easie to receaue the truth from the Church seing the Apostles haue most fully deposited in her as in a rich store-house al things belonging to truth Whitaker Contr. 1. q. 6. c. 12. p. 389. saieth we grant this But indeed they are far from granting it as shal presently appeare Chillingworth c. 2. n 148. answereth that though S. Ireney say The Apostles deposited al truth in the Church yet he saieth not that she shal alwaies keep al truth For the Apostles deposited al truth in particular persons and Churches and yet these kept it not alwaies But S. Ireney not onely saieth that the Apostles deposited al truth in the Church but as in a riche store-house and that it is easie to receaue Vincent Ecclesia sedula cauta dâ—positorum apud se dogmatum custos it from her which he nether saied nor could saie of anie particular persons or Churches And for to be a rich store house of al truth from which is easie to receaue it is to be a sufficient and infallible keeper and Proposer of al truth And Whitaker c. citato p. 388. confesseth that S. Ireney did appeale from scripture to Church and to Apostolical tradition and saieth that heretiks are to be refuted by tradition Which is to confess that S. Ireney thouht the Churches tradition infallible for els he had betraied the Christiâ—n cause in appealing from an infallible Proposer to a fallible and had taught that heretiks were to be refuted by fallible meanes 2. S. Athanasius epist ad Epictetum disputing against Arians saieth we must answer onely which alone sufficeth these things are not of the Church nor our Ancestors thought so Behold the authoritie i Contrà Vvhitaker l. 2. de script p. 239. alone of the Church accounted sufficient to refure heretiks and if sufficient surely infallible 3. S. Chrysostom in 2. Thessal c. 2. It is a tradition of the Church ask no more which words are so plain for the sufficiencie and infallibilitie of the Churchestradition as it made Whitaker c. cit p. 391 to crie It is au inconsiderate speech and vnworthie Church infallible in vniuersal traditions of so greata Father and Chillingworth c. 3. n. 45. to confess that the Church is â—nfallible in her vniuersal traditions but not saieth he in al her decrees or definitions of controuersie But what word of God warranteth the Churches Infallibilitie in her traditions and not in her definitions of faith Besids Chillingworth c. 2. n. 25. and els where often and Protestants generally denie anie tradition of the Church to be infallible becaus nothing is infallible wiâ—h them but the written word of God and tradition is not written I add also that S. Chrysostom saieth not it is an vniuersal tradition but simply It is a tradition 4. Basil l. de Spiritu sancto c. 27. What things are obserued and preached of vs we haue receaued partly by written doctrin partly by the Apostles deliuered to vs in misterie and both these haue equal vertue to pietie Behold traditions of the Apostles not written and they of equal vertue to pietie with their written doctrin and he addeth that the Ghospel without tradition of the Church would haue no force but be a smal or bare letter To Which Whitaker c. cit p. 390. saieth If k So Keâ—â—nitiu part 1. §. 148. Basil were aliue he would without doubt not acknowledg this sentence which deserueth to be cast out and condemned of al pious men Which is plainly to confess that S. Basil thought the Churches tradition to be a sufficient proposal of points of faith and without it the Scripture would be to no purpose 5. Tertullian l. Praescrip c. 16. teacheth that we ought not to dispute against Heretiks out of Scripture but out of tradition Whitaker c. cit p. 392 answereth that he spake of such heretiks as denied the Scripture and therfore as Ireney did appealed from Scripture to the Church But first it is fals that Tertullian spake onely of such heretiks as denied Tertul. appealed from scripture to the Church the Scripture For he plainly speaketh of al such as denie ether the scripture or corrupted the true sense of it as al heretiks doe Secondly I ask when Tertullian appealed from Scripture to Church did he appeale to some sufficient and infallible proof of faith or no If he did we haue what we desire if not he betraied the Christian cause and taught vs to leaue the onely infallible means of refuting heretiks and to take a fallible 6. S. Cyprian l. de Vnitate The spouse of Christ cannot be made an adulteress and if she cannot be made an Adulteress she is infallible in faith 7. Hierom. l. contra Vigilantium I reiect al Doctrins contrarie to the Church and with open mouth condemn them And dialogo contra Lucifer I
could drie vp al the brooks of thy Propositions with the onely sun of the Church 8. S. Austin l. de haeres saieth of the Donatists They dare rebaptize Catholiks wherin they more shewed themselues to be heretiks seeing the whole Catholik Church hath iudged that euen in heretiks vsual baptisme is not to be reiected Behold Donatists accounted heretiks becaus they went against the iudgement of the whole Church And in the end saieth of al heresies reckoned there by him it is superfluous to ask what the Church iudgeth of them when it sufficeth to See Potter sect 2. p. 33. know that she iudgeth against them Behold the iudgment of the Church suffiseth to condemn heresies Lib. de Vnitate c. 22. Thiâ— is nether openly nor euidently read ether by you or by me yet if there were anie wiseman of whome our Sauior had giuen testimonie and that he should be consulted in this question we would make no doubt to doe what he should say least we might seem to gain say not him so much as Christ by whose testimonie he was commended Now Christ beareth witnes to his Church Item Whosoeuer refuseth to follow the practise of the Church doth refuse our Sauior himself who by his testimonie recommendeth this Church Behold that to denie the Churches testimonie to be sufficient in matters of faith is to denie Christs testimonie of her Chillingworth c. 1. n. 163 saieth that S. Augustin in saying that some point of faith is nether openly nor euidently read inscripture contradicteth forsooth himself becaus l. 2. de Doctr. Christ c. 9. he saieth In these things which are openly put in scripture are al those found which conteine faith and manner of life But S. Austin there speaketh of al thinges which conteine faith and manner of life l Morton tom 2. Apost l. 1. c 49. verum respondes necessarie simply to euerie one or which are necessarie as he addeth to haue hope and charitie or which commeth alto one he speaketh of the Rule of faith Which as he saieth l. 3. de Doctr. Christ c. 2. is receaued from the plainer places of scripture Beside which kinde of points of faith there are others which are nether openly nor euidently read in Scripture and such was the baptisme of heretiks wherof he spake lib. de vnit c. cit But what is this to S. Austins authoritie that who contradicteth the Church in a matter of faith contradicteth Christ and who followeth her followeth Christ becaus he giueth witnes to her Lib. 2. de Baptist c. 4. Nether durst we say anie such thing that baptisme of Heretiks is vailable vnles we were assured by the most agreeing authoritie of the whole Church Behold the authoritie of the Church both sufficient and necessarie for some point of faith And ibid. c. 9. The whole world was held by the strength of Custome of the Church and this alone was opposed against those who brought in Noueltie And was not that sufficient which held the whole world and which alone was opposed to erroneous Noueltie Lib. 7. de Baptis c. 53. It is sâ—fâ— for vs to auouch with confidence of secure voice what in the Gouernment of our Lord Iesus Christ is confirmed with consent of the vniuersal Church Lib. 2. contra Crescon c. 32. I doe not receaue what Cyprian thought of baptizing heretiks and Schismatiks becaus the Church doth not receaue it Lib. contra Epist fund c. Becaus 5. which book of the acts I must needs beleue if I beleue the Ghospel becaus both books Catholik authoritie doth Becaâ—s alike commend to me Behold Catholik authoritie bindeth vs to beleue books of Scripture and is a cause why we beleue them l. 2. de Doctr. Christ c. 8. The Books of Wisdom and Becaus Ecclesiasticus are to be accounted prophetical becaus they haue been admitted into authoritie And l. 3. c. 2. let him consult the Rule of faith which he hath receaued from the plaineâ— places of scripture and from the authoritie of the Church Epist 56. Al the height of authoritie is setled in that holie name of Christ and in his one Church for recreating and reformiâ—g mankind And calleth the authoritie of Church most firme sermone 14. de Verbis Apostoli c. 21. This is a grounded thing an erring Disputer is to be borne with in other questions not diligently disgested nor yet made firme by ful authoritie of the Church There Error is to be borne with but it ought not to goe so far that it endeauour to shake the foundation it self of the Church Behold dispute in matters not determined by the Church may be borne with al but not with matters determined by her ful authoritie lib. 10. de Genesi ad literam c. 23. The custome of our Mother the Church in baptizing Infants is noe way to be despised not yet at al to be beleued vnles it were an Apostolical tradition Laude sec 15. p. 57. answereth that S. Austin meaneth not that tradition is the cause of our beleuing the baptisme of Infants but that it is the cause that we sought and found it in scripture But this is a plain euasion For S. Austin speaketh not of our seeking the Baptisme of Infants in Scripture nor of the cause of our finding it there but of our beleuing it and plainly sayeth that the cause of our beleuing it is tradition and that without tradition it were not at al to be beleued 9. And so vndoubted a thing it was in the time of the Fathers that the Church of God is a sufficient and infallible Proposer of matters of faith as euen Pelagius in S. Austin l. de gestis Pelagij c. 19. professed I curse Ancient heretiks confessed the Church to be â—nfallible al that gain say or contradict the doctrins of the holie Catholik Church And Dioscorus in Concil Chalced. Act. 1. If Euthyches think contrarie to the doctrin of the Church he is worthie not onely of punishment but euen of fire But now Gentle Reader consider first how manie omitting m Viâ—cent c. 1. 14 32. manie more for breuities sake testimonies of holie fathers haue been brought for the sufficiencie and infallibilitie of the Church in matters of faith Secondly how cleare and euident as some of them are confessed by Protestants to be against them Thirdly how vnlikelie it is that in this so main and clear a matter the Fathers should ether contradict themselues or be contrarie some to others Fourthly how Protestants expositions of those testimonies which they wil not grant to be against them are voluntarie not grounded in the words of the Fathers nay violent and contrarie to the vsual sense of such words and therfore are mere shifts inuented for to delude Fathers authoritie And thus hauing proued both by holie scripture and Fathers that the true Church of God is a sufficient and infallible Proposer of points of faith let vs proue the same by reason Onely I wil add D. Rainolds confession
of the Fathers in his Preface Sâ—â— his thâ—s 5. p. 106. to his conclusions The Fathers who denie the Church of Rome may err gain say vs indeed but they gain say the Ghospel too Pardon me o Cyprian I would beleue thee gladly but that beleuing thee I should not beleue the word of God Al the testimonies of the Fathers for the Roman Church are of two sortes the one of them true but clean beside the purpose the other to purpose enough but vntrue And in verse bidds Auant al yee who on the Fathers saws depend Thus plainly he confesseth the Fathers to be against him touching the Infallibilitie of the Church Out of which testimonies of Fathers and confession of Protestants euident it is that it is an vniuersal tradition that the true Church of God is infallible in al matters which she professeth as of faith And therfore if as hereafter Protestants say they admit vniuersal traditions in al matters where it can be had and that vniuersal tradition is the key the introduction to al diuine truthes that for it they beleue the Scripture to be the word of God and that it is as infallible as the Scripture they cannot denie the true Church of God to be infallible in al matters which she proposeth as of faith EIGHT CHAPTER That the true Church of God is infallible in al points of faith proued by Reason 1. THE Infallibilitie of the Church of God which soeuer she is in al points of faith is so euident as it is not onely testified by scripture and Fathers but also conuinced by light of Reason And therfore falsly saied Chillingwort c. 3. § 27. p. 141. For the Infallibilitie of the Church no proof can be pretended but incorrupted places of Scripture The first Reason we wil take from the definition or description of the true Church giuen by scripture Fathers and Protestants For the Scripture Acts. 2. v. 42. describeth the true Church of Christ to be à companie of men pâ—rseuering in the doctrin of the Apostles and communion of Sacraments And doubtles a Church perseuering in them is infallible The Fathers as Protestants Confess are wont to vnderstand by a Moulins cont Peron l. 1. c. 2. the Church which oftentimes they cal Catholik the whole societie of Christians orthodox and sound in faith vnited together in Communion But a Church Orthodox and sound in faith is infallible so long as she remaineth such Protestants also as we shewed pars 1. l. 2. c. 6. put in the definition of the true Church that she profess the pure and entire word of God and they giue puritie in doctrin for an essential note of her But a Church of whose definition it is and whose essential note is to profess pure and entire doctrin is infallible in profession therof And what some may say that they mean onely of puritie of doctrin in fundamental points is refuted c. 6. citato 2. The second argument may be taken from the ends for which God instituted à Church on earth And to omit those ends which we brought out of Scripture c. 5. as to be the pillar and ground of truth to be the ordinarie means of begetting infallible faith to be Gods witnes of infallible faith to consummate and keep the faithful vnited and constant in infallible faith an other end is that she is instituted as an infallible and b Vvhitaker l. 3. de script 〈◊〉 392. Pottâ—r sect 5. p. 7. necessarie means to bring men to saluation by faith Hope and Charitie And Faith sisignifieth whole faith not a parte onely as fundamental articles are Therfore she is as infallible in teaching al points of faith as in teaching al points of hope or Charitie She is also instituted to be a mother to conceaue and beare Children to God by the infallible word of God to be their Mistress and c Laude sect 38. p. 345. Guide in faith That she is the mother of the faithful The Apostle testifieth Galat 4. v. 26. and Caluin confesseth 4. Instit c. 1. § 4. where he saieth Let vs learn by the onelie title of Mother The Church mother and mistâ—es of the faithful how profitable yea how necessarie it is to know her seing there is no entrance into life vnles she conceaue vs in her wombe vnles she beare vs nourish vs with her duggs c. Whitaker l. 1. de scriptura p. 87. I am a disciple of the Church I acknowledg the Church for my Mother The Church truly is mother of the faithful And p. 72. The Church is truly mistress and Guide of our faith P. 128. we honor the Churâ—h as mother Nurse Tutress Teacher we heare and respect her as our perpetual Mistress P. 153. None denieth the Church to be a Mistress of her own We denie not but a Mistreshipp was giuen to the Church l. 2. p. 234. I confess the Church is to be heard as a mistress and her iudgment also to be followed But the sure means of infallible faith instituted by God The Mother of Christians in infallible faith instituted by God the Mistress or Guide of infallible faith instituted by God must needs be infallible both becaus of Gods institution and for the infallibilitie of the end For a fallible Mistress or guide is as good as none for to learn infallible truth or to attein to infallible securitie or as Chillingworth saieth c. 6. § 20. A doubtful Guide is A fallible Guide naught worth for mens direction as good as none at al. And c. 1. n. 7. I grant that this means in the Church to decide controuersies in faith and Religion must be endued with an vniuersal infallibilitie in whatsoeuer it propoundeth for a diuine truth And to say as Protestants doe that she is a sure guide but in fundamental points cannot stand with her fallibilitie in other points For as S. d Epist 8. and 9. Difference of Maisters in faith and science Austin saieth of the Scriptur if it faile in anie point it becoms doubtful in al so say of the Church If she can faile in some points of faith she is doubtful in al. And here must be wel noted the diffeence of Masters or Mistresses in sciences and in faith For Masters or Mistresses of sciences doe shew their schollers the truth of things in the things themselues and so they are but shewers of the truths which they teach not perswaders of it but Masters or Mistresses of mattets to be beleued doe not make their disciples see the truths which they teach in themselues but in their own authoritie and their authoritie is the formal cause of perswading them those truths Wherfore if Protestants would indeed grant the Church to be Mistress of Christians in matters of faith they must needs grant that in her authoritie they see the truthes which they beleue and for her authoritie are persuaded of them but indeed they doe not distinguish between à Mistress in faith and in science which is a
both books alike Which Present Church authoritie made Whitaker contr 1. q. 3. c. 7. to say we may be forced by the authoritie of the Church to beleue these books to be Canonical And if forced to beleue by authoritie of the Church then the authoritie of the Church is a most effectual and sufficient cause of infallible beleif And in the same place S. Austin I would not beleue the Gospel vnles the Authoritie of the Catholik Church did moue me which clearly testifieth the necessitie of the Churches proposal and made Whitaker q. cit c. 8. to grant that it is true we should not beleue the Gospel vnles thâ— Catholik Church did propose it But S Austin saieth more If the Catholik Churches authoritie did not moue me And it is far more for Catholik authoritie to moue vs to beleue then for the Church onely to propose Men of no authoritie may propose but authoritie which moueth to beleue the Gospel and with out which we cannot beleue the Gospel must needs be necessarie and infallible authoritie For beleif of the Gospel is infallible and such must be the authoritie that so moueth vs to it as without which we cannot beleue Commonly Protestants answer that S. Austin spake these words of himself as he was an heretik But this cannot be becaus as he was an heretik he did not beleue the authoritie it self of the Catholik Church and therfore as such he could not be moued to beleue the Scripture for her authoritie For how could he be moued to beleue the Scripture for that which it self he did not beleue Secondly becaus he saieth not non credidissem as Morton tom Apol. l. 1 c. 37 falsly citeth him but non crederem which words properly are to be vnderstood of him as he was minded at that present And al a August de Doctrina l. 3 c. 10. 11. Tertul de â—arnâ— Christi c. 13 15. words are to be vnderstood according to their proprietie if the contrarie be not manifest For otherwise we should be vncertain how to vnderstand men And it is not manifest that S. Austin did not vse those his words according to their proprietie Wherfore Morton loco cit granteth that S. Austin maketh the Church the meanes by which a Catholik beleueth and the reason without which not which sufficeth for my present purpose to shew the necessitie of the Churches proposal for the meanes by which and reason without which not are necessarie Thirdly becaus afterward S. Austin addeth The authoritie of Catholiks being weakned I can no more beleue the Gospel which he spake plainly of himself as he was then a Catholik and shew that his beleef of the Gospel euen both then and for the time after depended on the authoritie of the Church I add also that though S. Austin had saied the foresaied word of himself onely as he was an heretik yet it would thence follow that the proposal and authoritie of the Church is at least necessarie to begin beleif of the Gospel howsoeuer it be not necessarie for to continue it And it cannot be saied that is is necessarie so onely as an inducement or disposition to such beleef becaus as S. b L. de vtil cred c. 11. Austin saieth That we know we owe to reason that we beleue to authoritie So that as Reason is the formal cause of our knowledg so is Authoritie the formal cause of our beleef and such cause of our beleef of the Gospel is the authoritie of the Catholik Church such not principal but subordinate to Gods authoritie Chillingworth c. 2. § 54 p. 54. p. 73. and § 97. p. 88. saieth That S. Austin by Catholik Church meanerh the Church of al ages including Christ and the Apostles But nether proueth he that nor can tel how S. Austin could be infallibly certain of the testimonie of the Church of Christ and the Apostles time but by the testimonie of the Church of his time Which if it were not infallible he could not be infallibly certain of the testimonie of the Church of Christ and the Apostles time Beside S. Austin sheweth that he meaneth of the authoritie of the present Church in saying The Catholik authoritie doth commend to me both books alike And l. 1. contra Crescon c. 33. The truth of Scripture is held when we doe what now seemeth to the whole Church Which is plainly ment of the present Church The same S. Austin as is before cited saieth l. 10. de Gen. ad literam c. 23. That baptisme of Infants were not to be beleued vnles it were an Apostolical tradition And l. 2. de baptismo c. 4. that he durst not defend the baptisme giuen by heretiks vnles he were assured by the authoritie of the Church Therfore he thought the authoritie of the Church necessarie to beleue those points of faith Vincentius l. 1. c. 2. Here possibly one may demand when the rule of Scripture is perfect and in it self more then enough sufficient vnto al things what need is there to ioine vnto it the authoritie of the Churches sense And he answereth this is becaus al men doe not take it in one sense therfore it is necessarie that the line of interpretation be directed according to the rule of Ecclesiastical and Catholik sense Behold the sense of the Church necessarie to vnderstand the Scripture rightly And the same Vincent 16. c. 41. It is necessarie that the vnderstanding of the holie Scripture be directed according to the onely rule of the Churches sense And if the vnderstanding of the Scripture must be directed according to the sense of the Church doubtles the sense of the Church is necessarie THIRTEENTH CHAPTER That the true Church of God is a necessarie proposer of al points of faith proued by reason grounded in Scripture 1. FIrst What is Gods ordinarie meanes of teaching faith is in ordinarie course necessarie to haue faith Gods ordinarie means of teaching faith is by the Church therfore his means of teaching by the Church is in ordinarie course necessarie The Maior seemeth euident by it self and the Minor is proued by those places Rom. 10. Faithis of hearing lawful preaching Ephes 4. God hath put Pastors for consummation of Saints 1. Tim. 5. The Church is the pillar and ground of truth and so euident as Whitaker l. 1. de Scrip. p. 73. saieth That the ordinarie manner by which God teacheth is by the Church I willingly grant 2. Secondly becaus nether Scripture nor reading of Scripture is a necessarie cause of engendring faith in ordinarie course Therfore the preaching of the Church is such a means For there is doubtles some ordinarie means instituted by God which in ordinarie course is necessarie and if not Scripture nor reading of Scripture surely the Church and her preaching For no other can be reasonably imagined The Antecedent I proue becaus as I saied before for manie ages before Moyses there was no Scripture at al nor for some yeares after Christ was there anie Scripture of
the new Testament and in S. Ireneys time no Scripture amongst some Barbarians and yet there wanted not then some necessarie means of getting faith For there were faithful men in al those times and places 3. Thirdly Preachers or Pastors are necessarie to the Church in ordinarie course Therfore preaching also is necessarie The consequent is euident For why should preachers be necessarie if preaching for which preachers are be not The Antecedent is cleare both out of manie places in Scripture and out of the definition of the Church where Ministers of the word and of Sacraments are put as an essential parte of the Church where nether Scripture nor reading of it is put as anie parte thereof and also out of the confessions of Protestants as we shal see in the next Chapter If anie say that before Scripture was written Gods ordinarie means and necessarie for vs was preaching but after Scripture was written the reading of it is the necessarie ordinarie means of faith First I answer he voluntarily saieth that God hath changed his necessarie ordinarie means of causing faith Secondly Scripture neuer can be the vniuersal necessarie means of causing faith becaus it cannot be such to blinde men or to such as cannot read nay nor to anie that vnderstand it not in the original toungs according to the opinion of Protestants Besids See l. 2 c. 2. sect 2. it is absurd to say that after Scripture God had altered his ordinarie necessarie means of engendring faith For why should he alter it What proof is there that he did alter it Where is his word that saieth it 4. Fourthly sowing is necessarie in ordinarie course that the seed doe grow but preaching is compared in Scripture to sowing Therfore it is necessarie in ordinatie course that Gods seed or word doe grow in mens hearts FOVERTEENTH CHAPTER That the true Church of God is a necessarie proposer of points of faith proued by plain confession of Protestants 1. THat the Church is so necessarie a proposer of points as without her proposal in ordinarie course we can haue no diuine faith is so manifest as Protestants sometimes doe plainly confess it For thus Luther tom 1. fol. 54. The ministration of the word by a priest is necessarie to faith Tom. 2. l. contra Church conceaued by vocâ—l word Catharin fol. 140. The Church is conceaued framed nourished generated conserued by the vocal word Tom. 5. in c. 1. Zachariae fol. 516. Albeit God can teach men the Gospel without preaching yet he wil not doe it And ibid. praefat in Catechesim fol. 645. There are some this day euen of the Gentrie who dare say they haue no need of Pastors or preachers but that books suffice out of which anie man may learne the same things by himself without anie teaching And in colloquio marpurgi in Hospin part 2. fol. 77. Lutherans and SacramentariaÌ„s agreed That the holie Gost ordinarily speaking giueth faith to none vnles the vocal word goe before Kemnitius 2. parte Exam. tit de Sacram. ord p. 391. God vpon his certain Decree hath determined to dispense those things which belong to our saluation not infusing into mens minds inward peculiar reuelations without anie means but by the external ministerie of the word Caluin 4. Instit c. 1. § 4. The knowledg of the visible See him 1. Inâ—â—â—t c. 7. § 3. l. 4. c. 1. §. 5. in Actor c. 16. v. 17. Church is profitable yea necessarie to vs seing there is no other entrance vnto life vnles she conceaue vs in her wombe beare vs and fâ—ed vs with her duggs And ibid. § 5. Howbeit Gods power is not tied to external means yet he hath tied vs to the ordinarie means of teaching Ether pride or emulation or sloth driueth manie to perswade themselues that by priuate reading and studying they can profit enough In 1. Tim. 3 The office of ministring doctrin which God hath put in his Church is the onely instrument of truth Onlie Instrumental Preaching is before faith that it perish not out of the memorie of men The ministerie of the word being taken away Gods truth wil fal Ibid. Paul simply meaneth that becaus faith is by hearing there wil be no faith without preaching Beza epist 20. Iâ— it clear that faith is of hearing and therfore it followeth that preaching must goe before faith Fayus in enchiridio disput 66. The necessitie of Ecclesiastical ministerie appeareth by that that without it we cannot haue knowledg and vnderstanding ether of the word of God or of his â—il reuealed to vs in it Whitaker l. 3. de Scriptura p. 413. We alconfâ—ss the testimonie of the Church to be most necessarie by which men by Christs apointment may be brought to beleue P. 499. we affirme the ministerie of the Church to be verie necessarie l. 1. de Script p. simply we cannot beleue without the ministerie of the Church P. 39. we beleue not I confes vnles the Church by preaching teach vs. P. 106. The ministerie being taken away nether faith nor charitie nor obedience nor anie other vertue wil remaine safe See him p. 46. 106. 108. 111. l. 3. p. 369. I confess that the ministerie of the Church is most necessarie for to beleue the Scriptures l. 3. p. 478. I affirme determine hold that there is no entrance to saluation without the ministerie of the word Ibid. By ministerie of Pastors we assent to the Scriptures nor is it to behoped that without this ministerie we can haue faith And p. 477. It is true that without the ministerie there is no entrance to saluation and that this ministerie is not but in Pastors Contro 2. q. 3. c. 11. p. 332. By the preaching of Pastors the gates of heauen are in a sorte opened so that without the ministerie of the word no entrance to saluation can be for anâ—â— Ibid. q. 5. c. 19. p. 550. Without preaching of the Gospel we neuer come to saluation Fulk of succession p. 30. Saluation of people can neuer be procured without preaching And p. 163. No Christian wil denie but that preaching is necessarie for building of the Church Latimer in his sermons fol. 38. Take away preaching and you take away faith And fol. 99. The office of preaching is the onely ordinarie means by which God hath decreed that we be saued Cartwright in Hooker l. 5. p. 230. No saluation to be looked for where no preaching is Item Reading cannot begin the work of saluation it cannot breed and cause faith without sermons And the Puritans in whitgifts Answer to the admonition p. 53. Reading is not feeding Field in his Appendix part 2 p. 21. The tradition of the Church is a necessarie means wherby the books of Scripture may be made known The Churches proposiug of things is a necessarie condition without which ordinarily men can not beleue Potter sec 5. p. 5. We doe not depriue the Church of that prerogatiue and office which Christ hath giuen it Faith comes by
need had he to say Al power in heauen and earth was giuen to him for to giue mere humane power to his Apostles and also what humane power could be fit or sufficient to teach and administer diuine word and Sacraments And if Christ gaue to his Apostles true diuine authoritie to preach his word and administer his Sacraments he gaue them also true diuine authoritie to testifie that it was his word and Sacraments which they administred becaus the end of their preaching was to perswade men that it was his word and Sacraments which they administred and God giuing diuine authoritie to the means must needs giue the like authoritie to the end becaus he more desireth the end then the means and therfore wil not giue less authoritie to obtaine the end then he doth to obtain the means 3. Secondly Protestants say manie things of the Churches authoritie which must needs argue it to be diuine For Whitaker l. 1. de Script p. 11. and 19. saieth It is sacriledg not to receaue the Churches testimonie of the Sacriledg not to receaue the Churches testimonie Scriptures Tailor l. of libertie of prophesying sec 9. n. 2. The authoritie of the Church is diuine in its original for it deriues immediatly from Christ Potter sec 1. p. 10. The good Spirit of truth and loue euer assists and mantaines that great bodie the Catholik Church Sec. 5. p. 20. The whole Church cannot so err as to be destroied For then our lords Promise of her stable edification shold be of no value P. 21. Nor hath the Church vniuersal the like assurance from Christ that she shal not err in vnnecessarie additions as she Assurance from Christ hath for her not erring in taking away from the faith what is fundamental and necessarie It is comfort enough for the Church that the lord in mercie wil secure her from al capital dangers P. 22. That the Church shal neuer be robbed of anie truth necessarie to the being of the Church the promses of Christ assure vs. P. 30. Their General councels authoritie is immediatly deriued and deriued and delegated from Christ Laude in his Relation sec 21. p. 170. That the whole Church cannot err in doctrins absolutly fundamental seemes to be clear by the promise of Christ Mathew 16. The gates of hel c. Ibid. This power By Christs â—romise of not erring is in it partely by this promise of Christ Sec. 16. p. 61. The vniuersal Church deliuers those supernatural fundamental truthes by promises of assistance Sec. 33. p. 231. For this necessarie truth the Apostles receaued the promise for themselues and the whole Catholik Church Sec 38. p. 355. The Catholik Church of Christ Infallible assistance promised in things absolutly necessarie onely had infallible assistance promised And Chillingworth c. 5. p. 277. That there shal be by diuine prouidence preserued God hath promised absolutely in the world to the worlds end a companie of Christians who hold al things precisely and indispensably necessarie to saluation and nothing ineuitably destructiue of it this the Doctor affirmeth that God hath promised absolutely And is her authoritie not diuine which not to receaue is sacriledg Is not she diuinely infallible who is infallible by Christs absolute promise and the Spirit of truth his efficacious assistance What mean we by Diuinely infallible but infallible in this sort Doth not Laude sec 16. p. 91. say That so great assistance of Christ and the B. spirit as is purposely giuen to that effect that the authoritie of anie companie be diuine and infallible enough And doe not the forsaid Protestants confess that such assistance of Christ and of the B. Spirit is purposely giuen to the Church in fundamental points of faith How then can they denie that her authoritie in such points is diuine and she diuinely infallible in them 4. Thirdly Protestants are sometimes ashamed to say the Authoritie or testimonie of the true Church is mere humane and doe but restrictly say that it is diuine Whitaker contro 1. q. 3. c. 11. p. 331. It is a slander that we make the Iudgment of the Church mere humane which surely is fals Laude in his Relat. sec 16. n. 19. The tradition of the present Not more humane Church is not absolutely diuine And n. 21. The voice of the Church is not simply diuine Sec. 10. n. 11. The Churches authoritie is not simply diuine Sec. 19. n. 1. The testimonie of the present Church is not simply diuine Potter Sec. 5. p. 15. That the Church is infallible we doe not absolutely deny we onely deny the Church to be absolutely infallible Which is tacitly to confess that the authoritie or testimonie of the Church is truely diuine in some degree For what is not meerly humane and onely denied to be simply diuine is in some degree truly diuine And what authoritie is in anie degree truly diuine by Gods special assistance implieth contradiction to deceaue But why doe Protestants vse these ambiguous and equiuocal termes not simply not absolutely which they condemne in others and doe not speak out and Vvhitaker l. 3. p. 419. Laude Relat sec 33. p. 247 tel plainly whether authoritie of the Church in matters of faith be truly diuine by Gods efficacious assistance or no. For if it be truly diuine in anie degree by Gods efficacious assistance that sufficeth to vs becaus it implieth contradiction that such diuine authoritie should deceaue or be deceaued And as Chillingworth c. 3. § 33. p. 175. saieth The Apostles could not be the Churches fundation without freedom from error in al those things which they deliuered constantly as certain reuealed truthes For if once we suppose they may haue erred in some things of this nature it wil be vtterly vndiscernable what they haue erred in and what they haue not And in like manner I say of the Church That she could not be the pillar and ground of diuine truth without freedom from error in al things which she deliuereth as diuine truthes 4. Fourthly they grant that the The Rule of faith tradition and doctrin of the Church is the rule of faith and of iudging controuersies by White in defense of his way c. 3. p. 339. I grant that the doctrin of the Pastors of the true Church such as succeed the Apostles is the rule and means of faith And c. 37. p. 356. That the Churches doctrin is the rule I deny not Chillingworth l. 2. n. 155. Vniuersal tradition is the rule to iudge al controuersies by And c. 3. p. 148. We beleue canonical books vpon vniuersal tradition But the doctrin or tradition of the Church could not be the rule of diuine and infallible faith or of iudging controuersies in such faith if it were not also diuine and infallible For a rule must be as diuine and infallible as that is which is ruled by it And as Chillingworth saieth c. 3. p. 148. cit An authoritie subiect to error can be
or beleued with diuine faith EIGHTENTH CHAPTER Hovv vve are to ansvver that question VVherfore or hovv vve beleue or knovv the Church to be Infallible 1. OVT of that which hath been hitherto saied is clearly answered that question How or Wherfore we beleue or know the true Church of God to be absolutly infallible in al which she teacheth as matter of faith Laude sec 16. p. 60. saieth The tradition of the Church taken alone cannot be a sufficient proof to beleue by diuine faith that Scripture is the word of God For that which is a ful and sufficient proof is able of it self to settle the soule of man which Tradition is not alone able to doe For it may be further asked why we should beleue the Churches Tradition And if it be answered Becaus the Church is infallibly gouerned by the holie Ghost it may be demanded How that may appeare And if thâ—â— be demanded ether you must say you haue it by special Reuelation or els you must attempt to proue it by Scripture And the verie offer to proue it by Scripture is a sufficient acknoâ—ledgment that the Scripture is a higher proof then the Churches tradition which in your own ground is or may be questionable til you come thither Besids it is an inuiolable ground of reason that the Principles of anie conclusion Thus he whose words I haue related at large that I might not seem to dissemble the difficultie 2. First therfore we must note that Beleef and Knowledg are different For Beleef is a simple assent for the authoritie of the speaker Knowledg if it be not of such things as are euident of themselues as that the whole is greater then a parte and such like is discursiue inferring one thing out of an other Therfore these are different questions Wherfore we know the Church to be infallible in al matters of faith and Wherfore we beleue her to be so infallible And we wil answer to both questions differently and distinctly To the question Wherfore we beleue the Chrch to be infallible I answer that if you demand the material Gods vocal word the material obiect of faith obiect of my beleef therof it is Gods vocal word vttered to me by the Church For as is shewed before out of the Apostle Faith is of hearing and Hearing is by the vocal word of God vttered by the Church And for this vocal word of God as his testimonie the Church was beleued to be infallible before there was anie Scripture and of the aforesaied Barbarians who had no Scripture and could be so beleued though al Scripture should perish And this Luther and other Protestants before cited doe confess when they say The Church is conceaued bred by the vocal word of God Supra c. 14. â— 1. and 3. 3. And if you ask the formal obiect for whose authoritie we beleue the Church to be thus infallible I answer For the authoritie of God principally and for the authoritie of the Church which is the pillar and ground of faith subordinatly As we beleue what the Embassador saieth principally for the King who sent him and subordinatly for the authoritie of the Embassador himself as apointed by the king And as before anie Scripture was written Prophets were beleued not for anie Scripture but principally for the authoritie of God who sent them and secondarily for their own Prophetical authoritie instituted by God Wherfore we need not as Laude thinketh proue the Church to be infallible ether by special reuelation or by Scripture as Chillingworth saieth c. 3. p. 141. Becaus beside the priuat word of God which is by special reuelation and his publik written word Publik vocal word of God Videsup c. 14. n. 1. which is Scripture there is also his publik vocal word which he vttereth and speaketh by the mouth of the Church as wel as there is his written word which he wrot by Vvhitak l 3. descript p. 414. Spiritus per as Ecclesia loquitur â—ic etiam cont 1. q. 3. c. 11. cont 2. q. 4. c. 2. Quâ— ecclesiam audiunt Christum ipsum audiunt the hands of his prophets and Euangelists And Gods word by whom soeuer it is ether spoke nor written is of equal authoritie and his vocal word equally to be beleued as his written Wherfore we haue no need to proue the Church to be infallible by the Scripture as there was no need nor possibilitie by it to proue that or anie other point of faith before anie Scripture was written vnles it be against such heretiks as beleue the Scripture but beleue not the Church But Catholiks doe onely confirme their faith which before they had of the infallibilitie of the Church by Gods vocal Gods vocal word confirmed by his written word vttered by the Church by his written word of the Scripture As we vse to be confirmed in the beleef of a thing which a man doth not only say by word of mouth but also by writing 4. And moreouer it is not alwaies necessarie as laude thinks that the mean of knowing be more known then the thing known by it as when they mutually make each other known as Relatiues and the Cause and proper Effect doe For in these a Circle is not vitious As from a Father we proue a sonn and from a sonn à Father From Rational Risible and from Risible Rational from the suns rising the Daie and from the Daie the suns rising And as Whitaker saieth contr 1. q. 3. c. 3. of the old and new Testament Something 's mutually proue each other The old and new Testament doe mutually confirme one the other In other matters this mutual confirmation would not auaile but in this it auaileth much For none is so fit a witnes of God and of his word as God in his word And contro 2. q. 5. c. 18. As the cause doth bring forth and shew the effect so the effect in like manner doth illustrat the cause Ibid. c. 9. Relatiues are not before or after one the other And lib. 3. contra Dureum sec 3. doth this seem ridiculous to the to seek the word out of the word White in his Defense p. 301. It is no more a Circle in vs to proue our Spirit by the Scripture and again to be assured of the Scripture by the Spirit then it is in discours to goe too and and fro between causes and effects The like he hath in his way p. 117. Field in his Appendice part 2. p. 16. That the cause may be proued by the effect and the effect by the cause and that such a kinde of argumentation is not a circulation but a demonstratiue regress that two causes may becauses ether of other we make no question Caluin 1. Instit c. 9. § 3. God hath ioyned together the certaintie of his word and Spirit with a mutual knot The samesay I of Gods vocal word vttered by the Church and his written word signed by the Euangelists that
Preacher nor is in ordinarie course necessarie to engender diuine faith as we shal clearly proue hereafter neuertheless becaus the letter of Scripture is a Proposal of points of faith though we cannot properly enquire whither Scripture propose al points of faith becaus that is the parte of a Proposer yet we may wel enquire whether in Scripture or by Scripture al points of faith which are anie wayes necessarie te be beleued of anie kinde of men be sufficiently proposed as Protestants commonly affirme and Catholiks euer deny So that whether the letter of Scripture be a Proposal of points of faith or a Proposer of them we may enquire whether by Scripture al such necessarie points be sufficiently proposed or no. Yet before we enquire this we wil shew the vncertaintie of Protestants touching al things belonging to Scripture that euen therby it may clearly appeare that howsoeuer they say that the Scripture is the Iudge the entire Rule or Al-sufficient Proposer of al matter of faith they can indeed think nothing less FIRST CHAPTER VVhether S. Iames Epistle be Canonical Scripture and Gods vvord or no FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme CALVIN in praefat in epistolam â—acobi I doe willingly without controuersie embrace it Epistle of S. Iames becaus I finde no sufficient cause to reiect it Whitaker ad Rationem 1. Campiani We receaue it and number it among the Canonical books For whatsoeuer Luther or anie other thought of it yet our Churches doe willingly embrace it Contro 1. q. 1. c. 16. our Church receaueth al and onely those books of the New testament which the Councel of Trent receaued If Luther and others who follow Luther otherwise thought or wrote of some books of the New testament as the Epistles of Iames and Iude let them answer for themselues Nether need we cite anie more becaus both the French English and Holland Confessions account S. Iames Epistle Canonical SECOND SECTION Protestants sometimes denie LVther in c. 22. Genes to 6. fol. 282. Iames concludeth il It Luther said S. Iames dâ—ated followes not as Iames doateth Therfore the fruits doe iustifie Let therfore our aduersaries be packing with their Iames And praefat in Epistol Iacobi I doe not think this was written of anie Apostle for this cause For it is directly against S. Paul and al other Scripture it attributeth Iustification to works Melancthon de sacris Concionibus to 2. fol. 23. If it cannot be mitigated with some exposition as that of Iames you see c. such simply are not to be receaued Magdeburgians Cent. 1. c. 4. The Epist of Iames doth not a little stray S. Iames ascribeth iustification to workes from the Apostolical doctrin whiles it adscribeth iustification to works and not to faith alone And Cent. 2. c. 4. The Epistle of Iames adscribeth iustice to works against S. Paul and al other Scriptures Pomeranus the first Protestant Pastor of Wittenberg in c. 4. Epist S. Iames erreth ad Rom. By this place thou maiest espie the error of the Epistle of Iames in Iâ—â—erreth ridiculously which thou seest a wicked argument beside that he ridiculously inferreth he citeth Scripture against Scripture which the Spirit cannot suffer Wherfore it cannot be numbred among the books which preach iustice Confessio Heluetica c. 15. The same he S. Iames saied not contradicting the Apostle otherwise he were to be reiected Which they would neuer say if they were assured that it were Gods word For I suppose they would not reiect Gods word in anie caâ—e Musculus in locis Tit. de Iustificatione they obiect to vs the places of Iames. But whosoeuer he was though â—e taught differently from Paul he could not preiudice truth And he addeth Impertiâ—ently That he impertinently bringeth in the example of Abraham that he abuseth the word Faith and setteth down a sentence different from Apostolical doctrin And Tit. de Scripturis plainly aâ—uocheth that he holdeth it not for Authentical Hence it is euident that Protestants agree not about their Canon or Rule of their faith For Lutherans reiect S. Iames Epistle as also diuers others which Caluinists account parte of the Rule of their faith and parte of Gods word Euident also that Caluinists must iudge their brothers Lutherans to haue a most desperate cause For as Whitaker writeth Respon ad Rat. 1. Campiani who cannot defend their religion vnles they laie violent hands vpon the Scripture and break the sacred authoritie of diuine books they must needs haue a naughtie and desperate cause But so doe al Protestants who denie S. Iames Epist Morton to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 1. Al corruption of Gods word deserueth Gods thunderbolt And the same Whitaker l. 2. de Script p. 218. It is most of al necessarie that the Sic etiam cont 1. q. 3. c. 3. A certain Canon most necessarie certain Canon of Scriptures be vndoubted among Christians But so it is among Protestants For they are not agreed about the certain Canon of Scriptures And yet as Laude saieth sec 38. n. 8. What scripture is Canonical is a great point of faith Sec. 3. n. 12. If she the Church at this day reckons vpmore books within the Canon then heretofore she did then she is changed in a main point of faith the Canon of scripture And Hooker l. 1. § 14. Of things necessarie the very chiefest is to know what books we are bound to esteeme holie See infra c. 15. n. 7. SECOND CHAPTER VVhether al things that are in Scripture be plain and easie to be vnderstood or no FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme LVther de seruo arbitrio to 2. fol. 426. It is published by the wicked Sophisters that some things in Scripture are hard and that al are not open Ibid. fol. 440. I say of al the No parte of Scripture obscure Scripture I wil not haue anie part of it to be saied obscure In psal 37. to 3. fol. 10. If anie of their Papists number appeal and say we need the exposition of Fathers the Scriptures are obscure Thou shalt answer that this is fals No book in al the world is more clearly written then the Scripture which if it be compared with al other books is like to the sun before al other light Whervpon said Tailor in his Epistle dedicat of his libertie of Prophesing p. 47. so confident Luther sometimes was as he said he could expound al Scripture Gerlachius to 1. Disp 1. p. 9. We say al the Scripture is so clear as it Al scripture clear needeth no interpretation at al. Zanchius de Scriptura to 8. col 408. How can the Scripture be called obscure in anie parte of it Et col 409. If the Scripture be not obscure in anie parte as we shewed before much less in In euerie parte those things which are necessarie to Saluation Whitaker contro 1. q. 4. p. 341. Al the Scripture The whole Scripture is plain and clear Plessie of the Church c. 5. p.
152. The word of God is perfect and easie to be vnderstood of those that desire their saluation as wel of it self as compared with it self c. 4. p. 111. S. Peter saieth not that there is anie obscuritie in the Epistles of S. Paul Brentius in his Prolegomenies contra Sotum They babble that the scripture is obscure and therfore needeth interpretation Sutclif in his Chalenge c. 3. p. 94. Papists slander the scriptures as if they were dark and hard to be vnderstood And thus they write when they exhort al men weemen and Children to read the Scripture or say that they know euerie parcel of the Scripture to be Gods words by the matter contained therin For how can they know euerie parte of the Scripture to be Gods word by the matter vnles they know the matter of euerie parte therof SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it LVther praefat in psalmos It is Impudencie to brag of vnderstanding al Scripture most impudent rashnes to say one vnderstands anie book of scripture in al points Whitaker Contro 1. q. 4. c. 1. We neuer saied that al things in scripture are easie plain nothing obscure nothing hard to be vnderstood but we openly confess that manie places of scripture are obscure and hard Ibid. Luther was far from that madnes to say that nothing in the scriptures is hard and that it need no interpretation C. 3. p. 340. When the◠proue that there is great difficultie to vnderstand scripture they dispute not against vs. Et c. 4. p. 345. Nether did we euer say or think that al things in scripture be open Lib. 1. de Script p. 56. What man on earth canst thou finde who vnderstandeth al the Misteries of scriptures who is ignorant of nothing who can declare al See him p. 102. and 149. Potter sec 5. p. 19. How manie obscure texts of scriptures which she the Church vnderstands not Moulins of the Iudge of Controuersies c. 17. p. 281. Whosoeuer should vaunt of the vnderstanding al scripture shold vaunt of◠perfection to which the Angels are not comen as I think Chillingworth c. 3. § 25. some texts of scripture are so obscure and ambiguous that to say this and this is the certain sense of them were high presumption Morton tom High presumption 1. Apologiae l. 1. c. 19. denieth that this is the Controuersie betwixt Catholiks and Protestants Whether scripture be of it self so plain as it needeth no interpreter Plessie of the Church c. 4 p. 113. yea but yet are not there some places in Scripture plainly known to be hard Who can denie that Feild l. 4. Eccles c. 15. There is no question but there are manifold difficulties in the scripture Fulk against Heskins p. 7. who is so mad to deny but that there are diuers places both in the old and new testament which be obscure and hard to be vnderstood not onely of the ignorant but euen of the best learned Idem p. 12. And if it be impudencie and madnes for anie to say He vnderstands the Scripture in al points how can Protestants say they know the Scripture to be the word of God by the matter therof as diuers Protestants doe say who affirme that al the Scripture is infallibly known to be the word of God not by the authoritie or testimonie of the Church of God but by the matter therof THIRD CHAPTER VVhether al points necessarie to be belued be actually or expresly in scripture or no. FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme THe confession of Scotland c. 18. In which Canonical books we affirme al things to be Sufficiently expressed beleued for mans saluation are sufficiently expressed Luther in Postilla in ferias S. Stephani Nothing is to be affirmed but what is expressed in scripture Melancthon and Brentius in Hospin parte 2 Histor Sacram. fol. 107. Of Zuinglius his doctrin we cannot be certain seing of it we haue no clear and express word of God Smidelin l. contra Hosium p. 169. Faith is not faith but an vncertain opinion which doth not rely vpon some express testimonie of scripture Wigandus apud Schusselburg to 7. Catal. Heret p. 681. Onely those dogmes are to be auoched and taught Vvhose very words or equiualent are in Scripture in the Church whose verie words or equiualent are in Scripture Protestants in Conference at Ratisbone sess 10. p. 310. There cannot by the Churches testimonie anie new or peculiar dogme be deuised which afterward may be added to the other dogmes expressed in Scripture Caluin in Gratulat ad Praecentorem p. 337. Nothing is to be beleued which is not expressed in Scripture Contra Heshusium p. 844. where is the express word of God the touchstone Moulins l. contra Peron c. 45. We receaue no doctrin as necessarie to saluation vnles it be in Scripture ether in express termes or equiualent Epist Ether in express termes or equiualent 3. ad Episcopum Wintoniensem p. 183. The Principle by which our religion mainteineth it self against Papistrie is which are of diuine law are sufficiently and euidently conteined in Scripture And D Andrews answering admitteth this Principle For those things which belong to faith and manner of life Whitaker contr 1. q. 6. c. 6. we say Al things necessarie ether to faith or life are plainly and Abundantly expressed abundantly expressed in Scripture See him l. 3. de script c. 12. p. 419. Laude Relat. sec 33. p. 268. If the Popes decision be infallible legant Let them read it to vs out of the holie Scripture and we beleue it Morton in his Appeal l. 1. c. 2. sec 15. In al doctrins of faith we are to adheare precisely to the written word as vnto the sufficient and infallible rule of faith Tom. 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 46. The holie Scripture is to be held for the onely rule of faith The absolute rule of faith the total rule of the Church And c. 49 A most exact rule Tailor of Libertie of Prophesing sec 9. n. 4. In scripture al that is necessarie is plain King Iames in his speech to the Parlament An. 1603. My faith is grounded vpon the Scriptures and the express word of God Fulk in Acts c. 15. Al things necessarie to saluation are expressed in the holie Scripture Perkins contr 16. c. 2. we say that al things which belong to faith and good life and are necessarie to saluation are clearly expressed in Scripture Chillingworth in the praeface n. Clearly expressed 21. Moderate Protestants wil damne no man without express and certain warrant from Gods word See ib. n. 10. 30. 37. Item p. 18. Author Praefationis in to 5. Iesuiticae doctrinae impressae Rupellae 1596. calleth it a detestable lye That Scripture conteineth not al the misteries Explicitly of religion explicitly Vorstius Respons ad Sladum what is necessarie to be beleued is conteined word for word in Scripture Who wil see more Protestants that there is no necessarie point of faith which is not
reading of them be instructed to pietie and Heretiks euen the most learned sufficiently refâ—ted by them And to 1. l. 2. c. 9. He calleth it pure and plain Protestant doctrin That the principal points of faith necessarie to the saluation of al are clearly conteined in scripture See his Appeal l. 2. c. 7. sec 9. Euidently Chillingworth in the preface n. 30. 33. 37. Al things necessarie to saluation are euidently conteined in scripture And n. 37. he saieth That is the base and adequat foundation of his answer and that al Protestants vnanimously profess and mantain it c. 2. n. 157. p. 115. In a word al things necessarie to beleued are euidently conteined in scripture and what is not there euidently conteined can not be necessarie to be beleued Ibid. n. 11. p. 58. The scripture in things necessarie we pretend is plain P. 83. n. 84. If you speak of plain places and in such al Need no Interpreter necessarie things are conteined we are sufficiently certain of the meaning of them nether need they anie interpteter p. 59. n. 12. Thoses places which contein things necessarie and wherin error were dangerous need no infallible Interpreter becaus they are plain C. 6. p. 375. we want no vnitie nor meanes to procure it in things necassarie Plain places of scripture and such as need no interpretation are our meanes to obtein it c. 3. n. 52. p. 159. Protestants agree that the scripture euidently containes al things necessarie to saluation Plessie of the Church c. 4. p. 108. Euidently He who hath mercifully vouch safed to saue his people and who onely may be called a true Father would make his couenant with them in as plain termes and express clauses as could be deuised Ibid. There is nothing more clear or As plain and express as could be deuised more plain then the doctrin of saluation White in his Way p. 31. The scriptures plainly determin al points of faith As plainly as anie can p. 32. He can name no one necessarie article of our saith but the word teacheth it as plainly as himself can P. 39. The scripture by its own light perswadeth as and in alcases doubts questions and coutrouersies clearly testifieth with vs or against vs. And in his Defense c. 31. p. 294. The question is whether the written scripture conteines in express words or sense the whole and entire doctrin of faith and good life Vshers Reioinder p. 114. scriptures are sufficient for the final determination of al questions of faith Tailor in his libertie of Prophesing sec 3. n. 1. Al the articles of faith are clearly and plainly set down in scripture sec 5. n. 2. scripture in its plain Expression is an abundant rule of faith and manners SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it PRotestants in Colloq Ratisbon in Respons ad testimonia Patrum p. 470. None of vs euer dreamed that the scripture is so clear and easie as anie man may straight as it were at the first sight and without help of teachers vnderstand it Whitaker Contro 1. q. 4. c. 1. when Bellarmin maketh this to be the state of the question whether the scripture be of it self so plain as without interpretation Needeth Interpretation for matters of faith it sufficeth of it self to end and determin al controuersies of faith he fighteth without an aduersarie For in this matter he hath not vs Aduersaries They say but falsly that we think that al things in scriptures are plain and that they suffice without â—â—edeth Interpretation For controuersies Interpretation to end al controuersies C. 2. God would haue the holie Misteries of his word to be imparted to pure and holie men not to be cast before hoggs and doggs C. 3. when they proue that there is great difficultie to vnderstand the Scriptures they dispute not against vs. l. 2. de Scrip. c. 4. sec 4. p. 229. The Eunuch without Phillip nether beleued nor vnderstood what was sufficient For matter of saluation to saluation Laude Relat. sec 39. n. 9. Scripture interpreted by the Primitiue Church General Councel judge and a lawful and free General Councel determining according to these is Iudge of Controuersies Dauenantius de Iudice c. 15. We defend not which the Papists impose vpon vs the doctrin of faith conteined in Scripture to be so plain and perspicuous Needeth an Interpreter for doctrin of faith that it need not at al the help of an Interpreter or Doctor And need not this needful Interpreter to be infallible in interpreting And who is such if not the Church FIFT CHAPTER VVhether Scripture be the sole and entire Rule of al Christian beleif or no FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme PRotestants in Colloq Ratisbon Thesi 1. p. 19. We vndoubtedly acknowledg the word of God conteined in the writings of the Prophets Euangelists and Apostles to be the sole certain and infallible rule square and measure of doctrin worship and Christian Sole Rule faith The Confession of Basil art 1. Canonical Scripture alone conteineth perfectly Perfectly al pie tie al manner of life Confessio Belgica art 7. We beleue this holie Scripture to contein most perfectly al the wil of God and that in it are abundantly taught al those things whatsoeuer be necessarie to be beleued of Abundantly men for to obtein saluation Caluin ad art 20. Paris p. 2 9. We determin that right faith is grounded in the Scriptures onely In Confess p. Onely 107. Our saluation relieth on Scriptures onely We embrace it for the onely rule of faith In Refutat Catalani p. 383. We beleue and with a loud voice doe euermore crie that the Gospel is the onely rule by which al must be reformed Onelierule Daneus Contro 7. p. 1350. The onely foundation of Christian faith is the word of God and that alone written Hospinian parte 2. Histor Sacram fol. 23. The Magistrate of Zurich commanded that hereafter they propound no other thing to their Churches but the pure mere word of God conteined Mere written word in the words of the Prophets and Apostles K. Iames Resp ad Card. Peron p. 397. The king iudgeth that before aâ— things alagrâ—e of this Rule That points of faith and whatsoeuer deserueth necessarily Alone to be beleued be taken out of Scripture alone Laude Relat. § 17. p. 117. The Scripture Onely onely is the foundation of faith Potter sec 6. p. 65. Scripture the onely foundaiion and rule of faith Pareus Collegio Theol. 3. d. 2. scripture in this time is no les necessarie to the saluation of the Church then meat for the life Scripture as necessarie as meal for life of man And Collegio 9. d. 4. scripture now is necessarie not onely to the wel being of the Church but euen to her being Whitaker l. 1. de Scrip. c. 11. sec 1. scripture is the onely sufficient means to beleue So Contro 1. q. 3. c. 10. q. 6. c. 9.
p. 376. and c. 14. p. 399. Contro The onelie sufficient means 2. q. 5. c. 6. 9. Chillingworth c. 2. n. 3. scriptures be the sole Iudge of Controuersies that is the sole rule for man to iudg them Sole Rule by And he inscribeth that Chapter thus scripture the onely rule wherby to iudg of Controuersies Where § 32. he saieth I cannot know anie doctrin to be a diuine and supernatural truth or a part of Christianitie but onely becaus the scripture saies so And where saieth the Scripture that it self is the word of God Who wil see more Protestants may read Zuinglius in Hospin part 2. Histor fol. 23. Bernenses ibid. fol. 52. Beza Apol. contra Sanitem p. 289. and in Colloq Montisbel p. 10. Whitaker l. 1 de Script p. 146. l. 3. p. 483. l. 9. contra Dureum sec 64. Morton to 2. Apologiae l. 1. c. 45. 46. 47. 49. l. 5. c. 12. he saieth Matters of faith must relie onely on the light of the letters of faith Martyr in Disput Oxon p. 143. and Pareus Colleg. Theol. 3. disp 2. affirme that Scripture is the onely Onelie external infallible means external infallible means to get faith and as necessarie to the saluation of the Church as meat to life as also Pareus before said and Whitaker also White in his Defense p. 69. The whole rule of the Churches iudgment Vvhole Rule is onely scripture onely scripture onely scripture and nothing but scripture SECOND SECTION Protestants sometimes denie it PRotestants doe diuers waies denie Scripture to be the sole or entire rule of faith First in formal termes For thus Chillinhworth c. 2. n. 8. p. 55. when Protestants affirme against Papists that the scripture is a perfect rule of faith their meaning is not that by scripture al things absolutly may be proued which are to be beleued For it can neuer be proued by scripture to Not al things absolutely a Gainsayer that there is a God or that the Book called the scripture is the word of God Ibid. n. 155. p. 114. scripture is not a Iudge of Controuersies but a Rule to iudge them by and that not an absolutly perfect Rule but as perfect Not an absolutey perfect Rule as a written Rule can be which must alwaies need something els which is ether euidently true oreuidently credible to giue attestation to it See also n. 156. Feild l 4. de Eccles c. 15. we doe not so make the scripture the Rule of our faith but that other things in their kinde are Rules likewise in such sort as it is not safe without respect had vnto Not safe by Sctipture alâ—ne them to iudg of things by Scripture alone Hooker l. 1 § 14. Albeit scripture doe profess to contein in it al things which are necessarie to saluation yet the meaning cannot be simply of al things Not simply al things necessarie which are necessarie Secondly they confess that Scripture is no sufficient Rule to beleue that it self is the word of God or who are Schismatiks Hooker l. 2. § 4. It is not the word of God which Scripture can not assure vs that it iâ— the word of God doth or possibly can assure vs that it is the word of God By what then are you infallibly assured Is it by the word of man Laude Relat. sec 16. p. 70. There is no place in scripture which tels vs that such books conteining such and particulars No place in Scâ—iptuâ—e are the Canon and infallible wil and word of God And p. 69. That scripture should be fully and sufficiently known as by diuine and infallible testimonie lumine proprio by resplendencie of that light which it hath in it self onely and by the witnes that it can so giue to it self I could neuer yet see cause to allow P. 80. The light which is in Scripture itself is not bright enough it cannot beare sufficient witnes to itself P. 88. Where he Hooker speaks so Can not bear witnes to it self sensibly that Scripture cannot beare witnes to it self nor one parte of it to an other that is grounded vpon nature which admits no created thing to be witnes to it self and is acknowledged by our Sauior Sec. 25. n. 6. The Iudge shal be the Scripture and the Primitiue Church Primitiue Church iudge Chillingworth c. 2. n. 11. p. 52. Scripture we say is the rule to iudge controuersies by yet not al simply but al the controuersies of Christians of those that are already agreed vpon this first Not al controuersies by Scripture principle That the Scripture is the word of God n. 27. When Scripture is affirmed to be the rule by which al controuersies of religion are to be decided those are to be excepted out of this generalitie which concern the Scripture it self Ibid. Your Negatiue Conclusion That these questions Not controuersies â—bâ—ut Scripture it self touching Scripture are not decidable by Scripture you needed not haue cited anie reason to proue it it is euident by itself Which he often repeateth as n. 29. 46. 52. 156. And n. 27. The question whether scuh or such a book be Onely by the Church Canonical scripture affirmatiuely cannot be decided but onely by the testimonie of the ancient Churches And n. 35. you demand whether that by the Churches Assured by the Church consent they are assured what scriptures are Canonical I answer yes they are so And wheras you infer from Church iudge of the Scripture hence This is to make the Church Iudge I haue told you already that of this controuersie we make the Church Iudge Feild l. 4 de Eccles c. 7. To him that doubteth of both old andnew Testament we must not alleadg the authoritie of ether of these but some other thing Morton to 2. Apol. l. 5. c. 14. It is that which we wold haue That Scripture is to be accounted Iudge of those who beleue the scripture Which is plainly to confess that it is not Iudge of al. And Ibid. c. 10. We account not scripture the onely but the supreme Interpreter Not onely Scripture And c. 57. Protestants doe not so make the scripture the supreme Iudge of Controuersies as therfore they refuse the iudgment of Councels And l. 3. de Missa c. 3. The Iudgment of sense in Sense a ground of Protest fâ—ith sensible obiects is a notable ground of faith Whitaker Contro 1. q. 5. c. 6. He leeseth his labor who out of scripture disputeth against those that denie the scripture Against such we must dispute out of the testimonie of the Church or vse other arguments l. 1. de Script p. 92. The Creed of the Apostles is the rule of faith Creed is the rule Plessie of the Church c. 3. The question with the Donatists was more for matter of fact then of right as who had first failed in Charitie offended the Schisme not decided by Scripture Communion opened the gate
to schisme which could not wel be decided by the holie scripture White in his way p. 48. The certaintie of the scripture is not written Certaintie of Scripture is not written indeed with letters in anie particular place or book therof Thirdly they grant that Scripture needeth interpretation for to decide Scripture needeth interpretation some controuersies of faith as before c. 4. sec 2. we cited out of Whitaker and others To Whome I ad that Morton to 2. Apol. l. 5. c. 9. saieth Not so as we haue the scripture the onely but the cheif Interpreter that is that in expounding scriptures we follow the iudgment of Pastors but weighed by the most clear Conference of scriptures And Laude Relat. sec 25. p. 157. Ether they Protestants and Papists must be iudged by the scripture they must ether both repaire to the exposition of the Primitiue Church and submit to that or both call and submit to a General Councel lawfully called Ibid. p. 166. The Iudge shal be the scripture and the Primitiue Church And sec Scripture not onelie â—udge 39. p. 386. The scripture interpreted by the primitiue Church and a lawful and free general Councel determining according to these is Iudge of Controuersies Sec. 16. p. 104. When the Fathers say we are to relie vpon scripture onely they are neuer to be vnderstood with exclusion of tradition in what case soeuer it may be had becaus it is deep and may be drawn into different senses and so Tradition not excluded mistaken if anie man wil presume vpon his own strenght and singly without the Church Fourthly al Protestants partly Scripture neeaeth some additions in words partly in fact doe confess that the Scripture needeth the addition of some humane principles for to proue both their special iustification In which they assume this Principle I beleue and also most or altheir points of faith which are opposit to ours As for to proue that the Eucharist is not substantially the bodie of Christ because the Scripture saieth it is a Commemoration of him They need to ad this humane Principle No Commemoration can be substantially the thing which is commemorated or to proue that Christ is not really in the Eucharist becaus the Scripture saieth He is in heauen they need to ad this humane principle No bodie can by the power of God be in two places at once And so of the like And if the Scripture need the attestation of the Church need the Interpretation of the Church need humane Principles it is euident that it is not the sole and entire Rule of faith For a sole and entire Rule needeth nether addition nor Interpretation S. Basil lib. contra Eunomium â—â—hat requisit to a Rule A Rule admitteth no addition For what wanteth something needeth addition but what are imperfect can neuer be rightly called rules or squares Theophilact in Philipens 3. A Canon or Rule suffereth nether addition nor suhstraction Protestants in Colloq Ratisbon sess 1. p. 36. In matters of faith religion and worship that onely is to be accounted and vsed for a Rule which admitteth nether addition nor subtraction Whitaker Contro 1 q. 4. c. 4. The scripture is called a Rule a square a scope exposed to the eyes of al therfore it must need be easie and open And ibid. q. 5. c. 7. Euerie rule must be certain and known Ibid. q 6. c. 16. Vnles the scripture be the entire and perfect rule it wil be no rule at al. Ibid. If it be a rule then perfect and adâ—â—quate And Chillingworth c. 2. n. 6. p. 54. I conclude that both these properties are requisit to a perfect Rule both to be so compleat as it need no addition and to be so euident as to need no interpretation White in his Way p. 15. The nature of a Rule is to be perfect Laude sec 26. n. 4. A Rule must be certain and known And I conclude that Scripture is no entire Rule of faith becaus in diuers matters of faith and religion according to Protestants plain confession it needeth both addition and interpretation Howsoeuer therfore Protestants in words auouch the Scripture to be the onelie and entire Protestants denieindeeds what they affirme in words rule of Christian faith indeed they deny it becaus they doe and must denie it to be such as an entire Rule must be But perhaps their meaning is that when Catholiks are to proue then Scripture is the onelie Rule of faith but when they are to proue it may need their expositions or their humane principles which is as much as to say sometimes it is a rule sometimes not or to Catholiks it must be an entire Rule but not to Protestants so that what they wil and when they wil is their Rule of faith And no maruel if their Rule be as variable as their faith is SIXT CHAPTER VVhether Scripture of it self doe sufficiently shevv or proue it self to be the vvord of God FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme CAluin 1. Institut c. 6. § 2. wheras they ask How shal â—e be perswaded that the Scriptures came from God vnles we fly to the decree of the Church it is as if one shold ask How shal we learn to discern light from darknes white from black sweet from Scripture as lear as light bitter For the Scripture of itself giueth no obscurer feeling of its truth than white and black things of their color sweet and bitter of their taste And Ioan. 10. v. 4. By the spirit of discretion the Elect do discern Gods truth from mens lies Iuel Defens Apol. c. 9. p. 404. When Harding asked How know you that the scriptures be scriptures How know you that the Gospel of Thomas Bartholmew and Nicodemus are no scriptures Answereth A man might wel demand the like question of M. Harding How know you that the sun As the sun is the sun or how know you that the moon is the moon Whitaker Contro 1. q. 3. c. 1. The summ of our opinion is that scripture is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is of it self hath al its authoritie and credit And l. 1. de Scrip. c. 9. p. 18. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is which not onely of it self is true but which needeth no proof or demonstration Needeth no pâ—oof to confirme it See him ibid. p. 27. 93. 95. 102. 106. 65. 40. and contro 1. q. 6. c. 9. White in his way p. 27. The doctrin conteined in the scripture is a light and so abideth into what language soeuer it be translated and therfore the children of light know it and discern it For God directeth them by his holie spirit who openeth their hearts that they know his voice from al others and that the light of his truth may shine vpon them Which light is of this nature that it giueth testimonie to it self and receaueth authoritie from no other And in his way p. 48. The vertue and power which shewes it self in euerie
Chillingworth c. 2. § 3. p. 53. scriptures being the sole Iudge of Controuersies that is the sole Rule for man to Iudge them by For wee mean nothing els § 11. p. 57. To speak properly as Not properly a Iudge men shold speak when they write of Controuersies in religion the scripture is not a Iudge of Controuersies but a Rule onely and the onely Rule for Christians to iudge them by Ibid. § 10. We denie not but a Iudge and a law might wel stand together but we denie that No iudge apointed by God there is anie such Iudge of Gods apointment § 12. Which conclusion that though the Scripture may be a Rule it cannot be a Iudge I haue already granted § 23. There is not anie publikly authorized Iudge to determin Controuersies in religion nor anie necessitie there should be anie The same he hath § 85. And § 104. speaking Scripture cannot be a Iudge truly and properly The scripture is not a Iudge nor cannot be hut onely a sufficient Rule for those to Iudge by who beleue it to be the word of God § 155. This assertion That scripture alone is Iudge of al Controuersies in faith if it be taken properly is nether a fundamental nor an vnfundamental point of faith nor no point of faith at al but a plain falshood It is not a Iudge of Controuersies but a Rule to iudge them by Potter sec 2. p. 32. The Scripture is Iudge or rather Rule of Controuersies Whitaker Contro 1. q. 1. c. 2. The Scripture is the same in the Church which the law is in the common wealth Moulins de Iudice Contro c. 13. If our aduersaries think not that the title of Iudge ought to be giuen to the Scripture at least they shold not deny it title of Rule and this is that which we require namely that our faith be ruled by onely Gods word But nether wold this content them vnles Gods word be expounded as they would haue it which were to make themselues the rule of iudging EIGHTH CHAPTER VVhether Scripture be to beleued to be Gods vvord vvith diuine and infallible assurance FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme LAude Relat. sec 16. p. 72. suppose it aggreed vpon that there must be a diuine faith cui subesse non potest Scripture must be known with diuine faith falsum vnder which can rest no possible error That the books of scripture are the written word of God Ibid. p. 66. This is agreed on by me that scripture must be known to be scripture by a sufficient infallible diuine pro of See him p. 64. and p. 75. After a man once beleue his faith growes stronger then ether his reason or his knowledg p. 86. Beleif is firmer then anie knowledg can be becaus it rests vpon diuine authoritie which cannot deceaue See ibid. p. 105. and p. 114. 115. Likewise sec 33. p. 227. Moral certaintie is not Moral certaintie not sufficient strong enough in points of faith See him sec 19. p. 125. sec 16. cit p. 74. Reason without grace cannot see the way to heauen nor beleue this book Reason not sufficient in which God hath written the way Potter sec 5. p. 2. Faith is saied to be diuine and supernatural First in regard of the Author or efficient cause of the habit and act of diuine infused faith which is the special grace of God Secondly in regard of the obiect as things beleued which are aboue the reach of mere nature or reason Thirdly in regard of the formal reason or principal ground on which faith chiefly relyeth and into which it is finally resolued which is diuine Reuelation or authoritie of God If it faile in anie of these it is no diuine or supernatural faith P. 7. The assent of diuine faith is absolutly diuine which Faith is absolutly diuine requires an obiect and motiue so infallibly true as that it nether hath nor can possibly admit anie mixture of error or falshood p. 10. supernatural faith must be absolutly vndoubted and certain Sec. 6. p. 59. The assent of faith is more certain if it be possible then that of sense or science or demonstration becaus it rests on diuine authoritie which cannot possibly deceaue Sec. 5. cit p. 40. diuine faith must haue a diuine foundation that can not deceaue Caluin 1. Instit c. 7. § 5. Lightned by his vertue we beleue not by our own or other mens iudgment that the scripture is from God but aboue humane iudgment we resolue most assuredly euen as if we saw God there that it came from Gods own mouth by the ministerie of men See him ibid. § 4. and c. 6. § 2. And both he 3. Instit c. 2. § 6. 7. 16. in Cathechismo c. de fide Beza in Confes c. 4. sec 5. Luther in psalm 14. to 3. define faith to be Faith most certain and infallible A most certain assurance and Fulk in Rom. 8. Nota 9. to be an Infallible assurance White in his Way p. 2. Faith must be infallible or certain that is free from error and such as cannot deceau◠vs. P. 10. Our faith must be withful assurance and perswasion SECOND SECTION Sometimes they denie CHillingworth c. 1. § 8. p. 36. Of this hypothesis That al the articles of our faith were reuealed by God we cannot ordinarily haue anie rational and acquired certaintie more then moral But moral certaintie C. 2. § 3. p. 53 The controuersie wherin the scripture it self is the subiect of the question cannot be determined but by natural reason Ibid. § 32. p. 65. Natural reason built on principles common to Reason last resolution of Protest faith al men is the last resolution into which the Churches authoritie is but the first inducement Item § 24. p. 62. I know no other natural and rational means to be assured herof of the incorruption of Scripture then I haue of anie other books incorrupted For though I haue a greater degree of rational and humane Humane assurance assurance of that then this in regard of diuers considerations which make it more credible That the Scripture hath been preserued from anie material alteration yet my assurance of both is of the same Moral assurance kinde and condition both moral assurances and nether physical or mathematical Scripture no materia obiect of faith Ibid. § 32. p. 65. The Scripture is none of the material obiects of our faith but onely the means of conueying them vnto vs. § 35. p. 66. Of this controuersie which books be Canonical wemake the Church the Iudge but not the present Church but the consent and testimonie of the ancient and primitiue Church which though it be but a highly probable inducement and no demonstratiue enforcement yet me thinks you should not denie but it may be a sufficient Probabilitie a sufficient ground of Protest faith ground of faith Ibid. § 152. p. 112. The priuiledg of not being in possibilitie of erring
we challeng not Ibid. § 154. you content not yourselues with a moral certaintie of things you beleue p. 113. Moral certaintie sufficient Me thinks you should require onely a moral and modest assent to them points of faith and not a diuine as you cal it and infallible faith Ibid. § 159. p. 116. God requireth of vs vnder pain of damnation onely to beleue the verities therin Scripture conteined and not the diuine authoritie of the books wherin Not diuine authoritie of Scripture they are conteined We haue I beleue as great reason to beleue there was such a man as Henrie the Eight King of England as that Iesus Christ suffered vnder Pontius Pilat C 6. § 3. p. 325. That there is required of vs a As great reason for beleef of K. Hen. as of Christ. knowledg of them points of faith and an adherence to them as certain as that of sense or science that such a certaintie is required of vs vnder pain of damnation this I haue demonstrated to be a great error and of dangerous and pernicious consequence § 5. p. 327. Men may talke their pleasure of an absolute and most infallible certaintie but did they generally beleue that obedience to Christ were the onely way to present and eternal felicitie but as much as Caesars Commentaries or the historie of Salust I beleue the liues of most men Papists and Protestants would be better then they are And therfore it followes from your own reason that faith which is not a most certain and infallible knowledg may be true and sauing faith C. 7. § 7. p. 389. In requiring that this faith should be diuine and Dangerous that faith must be infallible infallible you cast your Credents into infinit perplexitie Erasmus on the 2. and 27. of Mathew There is no fear that al the authoritie of the Scripture shold fall if anie error were found in it Luther called the Scripture The books of Heretiks Protestants in Colloq Ratisbon sess 11. say that we must distinguish betwene the faith wherwith we beleue points necessarie to saluation and historical faith wherwith we beleue the Scripture to be the word of God And historical faith is not diuine faith vnles they wil make manie kinds of diuine faith And they add that there is not equal reason of beleuing that scripture is Gods word and that Christ is Incarnate And Whitaker l. 1. de Script p. 88. who haue no other faith but historical doe no more beleue Christ then the Diuels Moulins in his Bucler sec 4. p. 13. Properly speaking articles Scripture no doctrin of Christian religion of faith are doctrins of Christian religion and in this sense the Canon of Canonical books is no article of faith So that the Canon of Scripture is no doctrin of Christian religion White in his Defense c. 30. p. 282. scripture ether by the immediate light Scripture known by â—ight of nature of Gods spirit or by the light of nature may be known to be Gods word And if by the light of nature without diuine faith Hooker l. 3. § 8. we know by reason that the scripture is the word of God By reason Whitaker aforsaid l. 1. de Script p. 25. The most diuine character of the scripture doth most plainly tel al that ether haue receaued the Holie Ghost or are imbued with mean understanding By mean vnderstanding that it came from God And if mean vnderstanding suffice without the Holie Ghost there need no diuine faith to beleue it And ibid. p. 122. Who hath reason and wil vse it may therby most easily discern these diuine books from mens books P. 150. Scriptures By onelie reading may be known by onely reading And in praefat ad Staplet The Scripture giueth so clear a testimonie of its diuiniâ— tie that who read it with a smal attention and iudgment cannot be ignorant that it is diuine And p. 77. vnles he be doltish l. 2. p. 235. Scriptures may be acknowledged and held without the testimonie of the Spirit NINTH CHAPTER VVhether translated Scripture be authentical FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme WHite in his Way to the Church p. 12. I say the Scripture translated into English Translated Scripture rule of faith is the Rule of faith whervpon I relying haue not a humane but a diuine authoritie And p. 27. The doctrin conteined in the Scripture is a light and so abideth into what language soeuer it be translated and therfore the children of light know it and discern it Ibid. So the vnlearned man is secured not vpon the Churches credit and authoritie but by the ministerie which teacheth him he is directed to the light itself And this Ministerie we haue and vse for our Translations but they that obey it know the Translation and so proportionably The matter of Scripture sheweth it self al articles of faith to be infallible becaus the matter therof appeares to them as a candle in a lantern shewing it self in its own light And in his table before his book The Scriptures translated into English are the Rule of faith And in his Defense of his Way c. 28. p. 266. Though it be granted that the Ministerie of men and rules of art and knowledg of tonges be al subiect to error yet doth it not follow that by them we cannot obtein infallible assurance of our translations Chillingworth c. 2. § 32. we beleue the Scripture not finally Matter of Scripture known by it self and for itself but for the matter conteined in it And so al Protestants should say seing when they exhort the common people to the reading of their translated Bibles they bear them in hand that it is the word of God and that their translation of the word of God is authentical and worthie to be beleued for it self Besids they did the people beleue what they teach them becaus it is in their Bibles and so make their Bibles the rule and ground of their peoples faith And no other infallible rule of faith their common people can pretend to haue Moreouer if they make the matter or true sense of Scripture the rule of faith as commonly they doe they cannot denie but Scripture truly translated hath the same matter which the original hath SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it WHitaker Contro 1. q. 2. c. 7. We make no edition of Scripture authentical but the Hebrew in the old and the Greek in the New Testament Translations if No translation authentical they agree we allow them if they differ we reiect them Ibid. c. 8. We doe doe not say that we must stand to our translations as authentical of themselues but we appeal to the fountaines onely as truly authentical C. 9. Authentical Scripture must come imediatly from the Holie Ghost C. 10. onely authentical is Canonical Et ibid. q. 5. c. 9. The ignorance of the original toungs Hebrew and Greek hath caused manie errors And thus al Protestants should say becaus
they denie the Vulgar latin to be authentical becaus it is a Translation For as Whitaker c. 8. cit sayeth An Interpreter translateth authentical Scripture but maketh not his Translation authentical Scripture See Morton to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 14. p. 71. White in his Way p. 23. The conclusion Translation not a Rule That the English translation is not the Rule may be granted P. 1â— Al translations be to be tried by the original Hebrew and Greek And a Rule is not to be ruled it self Morton in Whites Defense c. 28. p. 259. What English Protestant euer No infallible affirmed that our Translations were infallible or took them for the Rule Tailor in his libertie of prophesing sec 4. n. 7. Is there anie man that hath translated perfectly or expounded Nor authentik infallibly No translation challengeth such a praerogatiue as to be authentik but the vulgar latin Pareus Colleg. Theol. 2. D. 1. We say that onely the Hebrew edition of the old testament and the Greek of the New is authentical Sic etiam Collegio 1. D. 14. Moulins of the Iudge of Contro part 2. c. 6. p. 378. Common sense telleth that translations are not to be receaued but as far as they are agreable to the originals TENTH CHAPTER VVhether the Scripture be to be beleued to be the vvord of God onely for the testimonie of the Church FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme SPalatensis l. 7. de Repub. c. 1. n. 9. To enquire which books are Canonical The Church hath that alone singular and onely rule that the Vniuersal Church ask herself and what she in actual exercise holdeth seek and plainly know And l. contra Suarem c. 1. n. 34. I shew that nether Councels nor Popes nor Fathers nor Church can otherwise define which books be Canonical which not but by the onely testimonie of the whole Church Chillingworth c. 2. n. 7. The question Onely by the Church whether such or such a book be Canonical Scripture cannot be decided affirmatiuely but onely by the testimonie of the ancient Church The like he hath n. 35. 42. And ibid. n. 1â—4 It is vpon the authoritie of vniuersal tradition that we would haue them beleue the Scripture See him supra c. 8. sect 2. And c. 1. n. 7. I grant that Christ hath founded a visible Church stored with al help necessarie to saluation particularly with sufficient meanes to beget and conserue faith to mantein vnitie and compose schismes to discouer and condemn heresies and to determin al controuersies in religion which were necessarie to be determined I grant that this means to decide controuersies in faith and religion must be endued with an vniuersal infallibilitie in whatsoeuer it propoundeth for a diuine truth C. 2. n. 3. It is superfluous for you to proue out of S. Athanasius and S. Austin that we must receaue the sacred Canon vpon the credit of Gods Church vnderstanding by Church the credit of tradition We wil say with Athanasius that onely four Gospels are to be receaued becaus the Canons of the holie and Catholik Church vnderstand of al ages since the perfection of the Canon haue so determined Whitaker l. 1. de script p. 46. We cannot beleue but by the testimonie of the Church as by the ordinarie means SECOND SECTION Protestants sometimes denie it LAude in his Relation sec 16. n. 1. p. 60 The tradition of the Church taken and considered alone is Tradition of the Church not sufficient so far from being the onelie that it can not be a sufficient proof to beleue by diuine faith that Scripture is the word of God n. 19. p. 80. The Tradition of the present Church is too weak becaus it is not absolutly diuine Ibid. 25 p. 88. If Scripture hath an other proof nay manie other Scripture can approue â—t self proofs to vsher it and lead it in then no question it can proue and approue it self Potter sec 5. p. 6. The testimonie of present Church though it be not the last resolution of our faith yet it is the first external motiue to it It is the key or dore which lets men into the knowledg of diuine misteries But the faith of a Christian finds not in al Not â—nie sure ground this anie sure ground wheron finally to rest or setle itself til it arise to greater assurance then the present Church alone can giue The same must al Protestants say who ether teach that the testimonie of the Church is fallible or that the Scripture hath a sufficient light to shew it self to be Gods word Humfrey ad Rat. 3. Campiani p. 210. We say that an argument taken from the authoritie of the Church simply Churches authoritie litle worth in our Academic is little worth effecteth nothing p. 212. No firme firme and irrefragable argument can be taken from the Church militant Brefly no argument firme and solid is taken from aniâ— Church vnles it be the Apostolik Whitaker Controu 1. q. 3. c. 3. Scripture known without the Church Without the Churches iudgment it may be known to be Christs voice and true Scripture Cont. 2. q. 5. c. 18. It is most fals that we cannot beleue this to be true Scripture but by the testimonie of the Church l. 2. de Script p. 280. who is led with the proper testimonie of the Church doth follow but humane testimonie And ibid. saieth it is mere humane l. 1. p. 112. The voice of the maisters of the Church may be publik but Pastors authoritie of no moment their authoritie is but priuat that is of no moment l. 1. de Scriptura p. 16. An argument which is taken from the bare testimonie of the Church for to confirme the Scriptures or anie parcel therof I say is vnualid vneffectual vnfit to perswade l. 2. p. 235. â—he Church hath Hath no authoritie in matters of faith no authoritie in matters of faith l. 3. p. 345. The iudgment of the Church considered by itself is mere humane Caluin in Act. 15. v. 28. Fond Papists think there is some authoritie in the Church ELEVENTH CHAPTER VVhether Scripture be the formal cause of Protestants beleuing vvhatsoeuer they belleue as of faith FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme 1. WHitaker l. 1. de Scriptura c. 5. sec vlt. p. 58. Whatsoeuer we beleue Vvhatsoeuer they beleue is foâ— Scripture we beleue for the scripture which is the external cause of faith I mantein that in kinde of external cause we beleue not for the testimonie of the Church but for the authoritie and testimonie of the scripture it self which alone in the ministerie of the Church is the external principal cause of faith For faith riseth not of the testimonie it self of the Church but onely of the authoritie and diuinitie of the scripture And p. Onely for Scripture 69. Not for the authoritie of the Church by which we are taught but for the authoritie of the scripture it self we acknowledg the scripture
no diuine light in them Likewise if the light were onely in the original letters of Scripture as Hebrew and Greek no translated Scripture should haue this light and so none should know the Scripture to be Gods word but who know Hebrew and Greek Moreouer both Fathers teach and Protestants S. Hierom. Galat 1 Vvhâ—tâ—ker l 2 cont Dur. sec 1. confess that Scripture consisteth in the sense not in the letter or words of Scripture As Wotton in Whites Defense c. 28. p. 259. denieth the words to be the Rule of faith And White ibid. affirmeth the matter conteined in the words so to be Nay Whitaker himself l. 3. de Scrip. c. 4. p. 39â— saieth Nether doe I put most certain diuinitie in the written letter And surely writing or letters giue no diuine authoritie to Gods word For Gods word is of the same authoritie written and vnwritten as is euident and Protestants confess How then can writing or letters giue anie true light or brightnes to Gods word Finally I add that e Sup l 1. c. 10. n. 6. faith cannot be resolued into arguments becaus it is not discursiue but onely into authoritie For it is a simple assent to the saying for the authoritie of the saier And onely the word of God or which God hath said can be beleued with diuine faith And no collection or inference of man out of the character or letter of God is Gods word and therfore cannot be the obiect or formal cause of diuine faith Nor is this feigned light in the sense of the Scripture becaus then by it we could not beleue euerie parte of the Scipture to be Gods word For as Protestants before confessed it Sup. c. 2. sect 2. were impudencie and madnes to say that anie know the true sense of euerie parte of Scripture which is beleued to be Gods word S. Austin Epist 119. professed that there is more in Scripture which he knew not then which he knew And Whitaker l. 2. de Script p. 220. 235. saieth The Eunuch though he vnderstood not the Scriptures yet he acknowledged them and certainly knew them to be diuine And l. 1. p. 156. God hath so framed his speech that though pious men doe not alwaies clearly see what he speaketh yet they clearly see by the verie speech that it is God who speaketh What diuine light of honestie haue those words to Osee Take a fornicarian and make sonnes of fornication What diuine light of humanitie haue those words to Abraham sacrifice thy sonne what diuine light of truth haue those words that Balaams ass spake to him And the like of manie more 5. Furthermore the Deuisers of this sufficient internal light of the Scripture are not wel resolued whether not withstanding this light it need be proued infallibly that Scripture is the word of God For Laude sec 16. p. 64 saieth It seemes to mâ— very necessarie that we be able to proue the books of scripture to be the word of God by some authoritie that is absolutly diuine And ibid. p. 66. Scripture must be proued by some word of God This is agreed on by me that scripture must be known to be scripture by a sufficient infallible diuine proof And that such proof can be nothing but the word of God is agreed also by me Thus he confesseth that notwithstanding anie light in the Scripture it must be infalliby proued to be the word of God and that such proof can be none but some word of God Which if he wold constantly hold he must needs grant that there is some vnwritten word of God by which the Scripture must be proued to be his word Neuertheles himself soon after p. 104. saieth It is most But Protestants can not proue it so reasonable that Theologie should be allowed to haue some principle which she proues not but presupposes and the chiefest of these is Tat the scriptures are of diuine authoritie And the same he repeateth p. 110. Potter also sec 5. p. 26. Al Christians in the world confess the authoritie of scripture to be a Principle indemonstrable yet are we by them Papists perpetually vrged to proue that authoritie and that by scripture And Whitaker l 1. de Script 106. What Pastor euer laboreth to proue that it is God who speaketh in scriptures He by his right requireth that this be granted to him So that the chiefest principle of Protestants Theologie and that on which dependeth their beleif of al they beleue cannot be infallibly proued but must be praesupposed and freely granted and consequently they can beleue nothing infallibly as Laude p. 64. cit wel inferred For as generally Protestants teach we Sup. l. 1. c. 18. n. 1. can haue no greater certaintie of the inference then we haue of the Principle out of which we inferr it And herevpon Chillingworth as before we shewed c. 8. sec 2. consequently granted that Protestants haue but humane and moral assurance of what they beleue And as Laude saieth sec 16. p. 59. This question how doe you know scripture to be scripture driueth some of them into infidelitie Such fruits they see come of their denying the Churches infallibilitie in al matters of faith 6. Finally this sufficient internal light of the Scripture great or less hath no sufficient ground For the pretended ground therof is that the Scripture is called a light psal 118. To which I answer First That arguments taken from Metaphors Arguments taken from meâ—aphors are deceitful or similitudes are most subiect to deceipt becaus the true similitude may be easily mistaken Secondly it is not saied that the scripture or Written word and much less Al scripture is a light but simply The word of God which may be wel vnderstood ether of the word preached Gal. 1. Without which there is no faith Rom. 10. or of the ingrafted word which can saue our soules Iacobi 1. or of the word written in the hearts of the faithful Hierem. 31. Thirdly I say that the word of God is called a light not becaus it sheweth Vvhy Gods word called a light it self to be the word of God as light sheweth it self to be light but becaus it sheweth the way to heauen And therfore it is called a light to our feet which can not see but follow And in this sorte Iob. 2. 29. saieth He was an eye to the blinde not that the blinde could see him but follow his directions The like I say to that other place 2. Petri c. 1. Where he likeneth Prophetical speech to a lamp shining in a dark place For nether speaketh he of al scripture but onely of Prophesies nether likeneth he them to a lamp in that this is seen by it self but ether becaus Prophesies gaue but a darksome light of Christ in respect of the Gospel or becaus they directed to Christ as a lamp directeth in a darksome roome In like sorte the Apostles were called the light of the world Math. 5. Not becaus the world
of the Church to be necessarie for to beleue it For faith is said to be of hearing of the word of God lawfully preached The Church is called the pillar and ground of truth she is accounted Gods witnes her voice Christs voice her Pastors are accounted Gods Legats and apointed by God to keep men constant in faith Al which doe shew not onely that the Churches preaching is necessarie to beleue but that also her authoritie or testimonie is necessarie And al authoritie or testimonie is a formal cause of beleif becaus That we beleue Chilling c. 1. n. 7. we ow to authoritie And Protestants define faith to be an assent to diuine Reuelations vpon the authoritie of the Reuealer And doubtles à Reuealer is a liuing and intellectual person not a dead letter Whitaker also as I before cited Authoritie is the foundation of faith â—aith relieth vpon authoritie Herevpon S. Austin l. contra Epist Fundam c. 4. and 5. professeth that authoritie held him in the Catholik Church That Christ by miracles got authoritie and by Authoritie deserued beleef That religion can no way be rightly gotten but by authoritie And otherwhere De vtil cred c. 17. Epist 5. 6. that in the Church is the height the top the castle of authoritie and that her authoritie is most firme And l. 2. contra Crescon c. 32. I receaue not what Cyprian held of baptizing heretiks becaus the Church doth not receaue it l. 2. de Doctrin Christiana c. 8. The books of wisdom and Ecclesiasticus are to be accounted Prophetical becaus they haue been admitted into authoritie l. contra Epist Fund c. 5. Which books of the Acts I must needs beleue if I beleue the Gospel becaus both Books Catholiks authoritie doth alike commend vnto me In which places he plainly maketh the authoritie of the Catholik Church a sufficient external cause of his beleif or not beleif 9. Reason also sheweth the same For if God would haue vs to beleue his misteries it is most likelie he would apoint on earth some external authoritie subordinat to his supreme authoritie for which we should beleue them Whervpon S. Austin l. de vtilit Credendi c. 16. saied If God haue Prouidence of mankinde we ought not to despaire but that he hath apointed some authoritie on which we relying as on a sure step may mount to God And this authoritie he saieth is the authoritie of the Church But the authoritie on which we relie is doubtles some formal cause of our beleif Protestants also sometimes confess the same For thus Chillingworth c. 2. Scripture beleued for the Churches authoritie p. 96. It is vpon the authoritie of vniuersal tradition that we would haue them beleue Scripture The same he hath p. 69. Whitaker Contro 1. q. 3. c. 7. We are forced by the Churches Forced to beleue authoritie to beleue these books to be Canonical And if her authoritie can force vs to beleue it is a sufficient cause of beleef And l. 1. de Script p. 15. We may be forced by the authoritie of the Church to acknowledg the Scripture P. 72. The Church is Mistres and Guide of our faith P. 87. I am à Disciple of the Church I acknowledg her my Mother P. 46. We cannot beleue but by the testimonie of the Church as by the ordinarie meanes P. 62. We are led to beleue first by the authoritie of the Church P. 68. I most willingly grant the external iudgment of the Church to be the help and means ordained by God and necessarie for vs to engender nourish and confirme faith And l. 2. p. 234. The Authoritie of the Church is a certain introduction to beleue P. 289. Catholik authoritie commending both books Austin was necessarily induced to beleue both books The same we must doe For what book soeuer such authoritie shal commend to vs we must needs beleue it P. 320. I grant the Scripture is to be receaued becaus it is receaued of the Church Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 2. The Church is a witnes of holie writ C. 5. By tradition Tradition conuâ—nceth and authoritie of the Church it may be conuinced which books be Canonical C. 9. what other doe al those Fathers proue then that Scripture is to be receaued becaus it was alwaies receaued of the Church And doth not Becaus giue a cause of beleif And Hooker Laude Potter cited l. 1. c. 14. grant that the testimonie of the present Church is the key or dore that lets men into the Scripture Laude Relat sec 16. p. 102. euen to this knowledg of them that they are the word of God And Spalatensis and Chillingworth c. 10. libri primi add that such a book cannot be known to be Canonical Scripture but by the testimonie of the Church But authoritie testimonie iudgment are formal causes of beleif And if Protestants doe think that the authoritie Sâ—p l. 1. c. 14. of the Church is no formal cause of faith why should they teach that the Churches preaching is necessarie to faith and that the preaching teaching or proposing by priuat men would not suffice For priuat men may propose al the Church proposeth onely they cannot propose anie thing with such authoritie 10. And hence appeareth euidently that the true Church and her authoritie must alwaies in ordinarie course be beleued before Scripture becaus her authoritie is the formal external cause of the beleif of the Scripture And also that falsly wrote Whitaker l. 2. de Scrip. p. 235. The Church hath no authoritie in matters of faith Ibid. p. 228. The testimonie of the Church is no cause of faith And l. p. 122. The So Laude Relat. sec 1. p. 117. Taude sec 16. p. 106. Scripture is now the onely sufficient meaÌ„s to beleue And Contr. 2. q. 5. c. 18. Faith doth not depend vpon the authoritie of the Church And ibid. c. 20. The Scripture is more manifest then the Church And Chillingworth c. 2. p. 57. we say euerie man is to chuse his religion first and then his Church For beside what we haue proued Whitaker himself hath granted That the authoritie of the Church is an introduction to faith That we are first led to beleue by her authoritie and that her So laude sec 16. p. 89. Hooker l. 2. §. 7. Potter sect 5. testimonie is the ordinarie and necessarie means to engender faith That her authoritie causeth faith and therfore her authoritie must first of al be beleued becaus it is an introduction à first leader à necessarie means to ingender faith or as others say the key or dore to faith 1â— And out of that which hath been said in this Chapter is easily solued that question why is tradition Vvhy Traditionerodible of it self aâ—d not Scripture of itself Credible and not Scripture I answer That if we speak of tradition materially that is of the doctrin which we haue by tradition that is no more credible of itself then is the doctrin which we
haue by the Scripture For example the doctrin of seauen Sacraments which we haue by tradition is no more credible of itself then anie other point of faith which we haue by Scripture But if we speak formally of Tradition as it is an act of the Church that is of itself credible becaus that includeth the deliuerie of doctrin by the liuelie or liuing voice of the Church Which voice of the Church is euident to vs and her authoritie maketh the doctrin which she deliuereth credible But the Scripture is deliuered to vs by dead letters and it is not euident to vs that the Prophets or Apostles were the Enditers of those letters and therfore it hath not their authoritie adioined to it as the voice of the Church hath her authoritie adioined to it and so the Scripture not hauing the authoritie of the Authors therof so annexed to it as Tradition hath the authoritie of the Church it can not be so credible of itself Hence also is answered that question which Chillingworth in his Answer to the Preface n. 25. p. Chillingwort the question answered 18. and c. 3. p. 162. saieth He desired to be resolued by manie of our side but neuer could to wit why an implicit faith in Christ and in his word shold not suffice as wel as implicit faith in our Church Becaus it implieth that in ordinarie course there should be diuine faith in Christ and in his word without faith in his Church Christ and his word include not al that is necessarie in ordinarie course to diuine faith becaus faith is of hearing à lawful Preacher Rom. 10. But faith in his Church includeth al that is in ordinarie course necessarie to diuine faith For we can not beleue in Christs Church but we must beleue in Christs and in his word Heretiks say they beleue in Christ and in his word but that wil not suffice them becaus they doe not beleue Vhosoeuer beloue in Christ Church beleue in Christ but not contrariewise also in his Church But whosoeuer beleue in his Church beleue in him but not contrariwise whosoeuer beleue in Christ so as Heretiks doe beleue also in his Church wherfore implicit faith in Christs Church may suffice becaus that necessarily concludeth faith in Christ but al kinds of faith in Christ as that of Heretiks doth not include faith in his Church 12. As for the authoritie of Fathers to proue that the Scripture of it self without the attestation of the Church can propose nothing sufficiently to be beleued with diuine faith it may suffice what before l. 1. c. 7. we cited out of S. Basil that Scripture without tradition of the Church would haue no force but be like a bare letter and out of S. Austin that he could not beleue the Gospel if the authoritie of the Church were weakened And as for Protestants confessions it may also suffice what we cited out of them l. 1. c. 14. and here l. 2. c. 5. and 6. That the Church is a necessarie introduction the key the dore which lets vs into the knowledg of the Scripture And c. 5. That we cannot refel schismatiks or Heretiks who denie the Scripture out of Scripture For if the Church be such euident itis that without the Church the Scripture cannot be beleued to be Gods word and til it be beleued to be Gods word it can not sufficiently propose anie thing to vs to be beleued with diuine faith FIFTEENTH CHAPTER That Scripture though beleued to be Gods vvord doth not sufficiently propose to men al points of faith 1. THat Scripture though beleued to be Gods word doth not sufficiently propose to vs al points of faith is euident First becaus as is proued in the former Chapter it doth not at al propose to vs this point of faith That it self is the wodr of God which yet is a point of a Confess Angl. art 6. Gall. art 3 Belg. art 4. faith necessarie to be beleued yea in the b Sup. c. 11. sec 1. Protestants opinion the chiefest point of al as on which dependeth their beleif of al the rest If anie obiect that the Scripture being beleued to be Gods word it need not propose itself to be Gods word I answer that I speak not what the Scripture need not doe but what it doth not Caluin 1. Instit c. 7. 8. where he endeauoreth to proue Scripture to be Gods word bringeth no word of God to proue it but proueth it out of the qualities of Scripture to wit dignitie veritie conformitie antiquitie and such like And so doth Whitaker Contro 1. q. 3 c. 3. and yet there confesseth c Item l. 1. de Sript p 21. that these arguments cannot persuade these books to be Canonical And the same saieth Caluin c. 7. cit § 4. And what cannot perswade doth not sufficiently propose to make beleif For beleif cannot be without persuasion Besids these arguments make not faith but science 2. Secondly the Scripture itself saieth There are some necessarie traditions not written 2. Thessalon 2. v. 15. Hold the traditions which you haue learnt ether by speech or by our Epistle Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 10. confesseth that Protestants answer diuersly whose answers becaus himself refuteth we wil for breuities sake omit His answer is that d So Peâ—kins Cath Refor cont 7. c. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Barom An. 53. there were some necessarie traditioÌ„s not written when this Epistle was written Let Whitaker shew as plain testimonie of Scripture that al was written after You must proue as plainly out of Scripture as we proue as Tertullian saied to Praxeas c. 11. Secondly becaus the Fathers as S. Chrysostom Oecumenius Theophilact vpon this place S Basil l de Spiritu Sancto c 29. S. Epiphanius haeresi 61. and S. Damascen l. 4. de fide c. 17. out of this place do proue that euen in their times there were necessarie traditions not written 3. Thirdly becaus there are diuers points of faith which nether are expresly in Scripture nor can be euidently and necessarily inferred out of it But for breuities sake I wil speak of one onely which is the perpetual virginitie of our Blessed Ladie For that is a point of faith as is clear Perpetual Virginitie of our B. Ladie a point of faith becaus both Iouinian and Heluidius were condemned as Heretiks for denying it as is euident out of S. Ambrose Epist 7. S. Epiphanius haeresi 78. S. Hierom. l. contra Heluidium S. Austin haeresi 84. Gennadius l. de Ecclesiast dogmat c. 68. And doth anie now know what is a point of faith or what is true heresie better then al these Fathers Nay then al the Church of their time which condemned partly tacitly partly openly the aforesaid Heretiks S. Basil homil de humana generatione Christi saieth The eares of those who loue Christ cannot suffer to here that the Mother of God at anie time left to be a Virgin S. Epiphanius loc cit calleth it
authoritie of beleuing And ibid. c. 4. p. 392. Our faith must relie vpon an external a Chilling c. 1. n. 7. Laude sect 33 p. 2. 8 Field l. 4. c. 7. infallible means and which is an external infallible means causeth faith Potter sec 5. p. 7. The assent of diuine faith is absolutly diuine which requires an obiect and motiue so infallibly true as that it nether hath nor can possibly admit anie mixture of error or falshood And what external means had men to beleue ordinarily before there was Scripture but the Church For what external infallible cause did they beleue but for the Church or was the beleif of euerie man for those 2400. yeares Prophetical or miraculous without anie external infallible motiue or cause What motiue so infallibly true as that it could not possibly admit anie mixture of error or falshood had the ordinarie Beleuers before there was anie Scripture beside the Church EIGHTEENTH CHAPTER That Scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al places vvhere faith vvas had 1. THis is euident by the testimonie of S. Ireney who l. 3. c. 4. saieth that in his time manie Barbarous Nations beleued in Christ Augustin l. 1. de Doctr. Christ. c. 39. without letters or inck which made Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 7. to confess that some Barbarous men for a time wanted Scriptures and that for a Scripture not simply necessarie time doctrin may be conserued entire without writing and that hence is rightly concluded that Scripture is not simply necessarie And l. 1. de Script c 14. sec 4. p. 159. Those Barbarians of whome Ireney speaketh who had saluation written in their hearts were indeed true Christians though they knew not Scripture But saieth he they were not simply ignorant of the Scripture becaus they held the doctrin of the Scripture But I replie that Scripture and doctrin of Scripture are different and relatiuely opposit Moreouer the doctrin of Scripture is no Proposer to beleue but the thing proposed to be beleued And we speak of the Proposer of points of faith not of points of faith or doctrin of faith proposed Though therfore these Barbarians beleued the doctrin which is in Scripture yet they beleued not it by means of Scripture We therfore ask by what infallible external means they beleued it if not by the Church For some infallible means they must haue had to beleue in ordinarie course as Whitaker and Potter cited in the former Chapter confess and is euident And howsoeuer the doctrin or sense of the Scripture may be saied to be the Scripture becaus it is the more principal parte of Scripture yet in this question of the Proposer of points of faith it ought not to be meant by the word Scripture becaus the doctrin of Scripture is the points of faith and is that which is to be sufficiently proposed and beleued and so it is not the Proposer but the Proposed Wherfore Whitaker So also Vvhite in his Vvay p. 2â— and in his Defensep 259. loco iam citato and Contro 1. q. 3. c. 10. equiuocateth For when Catholiks argue that the Church is ancienter then Scripture becaus it was before anie Scripture Or that Scripture is not necessarie to faith becaus diuers Nations beleued without Scripture he answereth that the Church is not ancienter then the word of God None beleued without knowledg of that doctrin which is in Scripture For Scripture is Vvhitaker Contr. 2 q. 5. c. 19. Praedicatio verbum â—c iptum ratione differuns not the word of God or doctrin of God simply taken but the word or doctrin of God written Wherfore it is a Sophisme à Coniunctis ad diuisa to speak of Gods word simply when he should speak of Gods word written For Catholiks speak of the word or doctrin of God written not simply taken and confess that the word of God simply taken is ancienter then the Church and that none can beleue without this doctrin becaus it is that which is to be beleued And they ask what is the infallible external cause for which this doctrin or word of God was beleued of those Barbarians seing that could not be the letter of God or the Scripture which they had not Ether therfore they beleued the word of God and doctrin of Scripture for no external infallible cause and so they beleued miraculously and extraordinarily or they beleued it for the infallible authoritie of the Church When therfore Whitaker saieth that Scripture is the L. 1 de Scrip. c. 11. sec 1. Contr. 1. q. 6. c. 9. 14. Caluin 1 Instit c. 6. §. 2. Vide supra c. 5. sec 1. onely sufficient means to beleue ether he meaneth by Scripture the letter of Scripture or the sense if the letter those Barbarians had not nor blinde and ignorant men haue that means to beleue if the sense that is not the means to beleue but the obiect to be beleued and we ask what is the infallible external means for to beleue this sense For as Whitaker saieth l. 1. de Script p. 151. Wee seek some external means for which we beleue the Scripture And Contro 2. q. 4. c. 3. To interpret Scripture without means is Enthusiastical Anabaptistical and extraordinarie For the spirit now teacheth only by means and such as the means are such must needs be the Interpretation 2. Protestants Confessions that al things which are to be beleued are not in Scripture are related supra c. 5 sec 2. to wit That al things absolutly cannot be proued by scripture not al things simply that it is not an absolutly perfect Rule not safe to iudge by Scripture alone that scripture cannot assure vs cannot proue itself to be Gods word That Schisme cannot be decided by scripture NINTEENTH CHAPTER That Scripture doth not clearly enough propose al points of faith 1. THat Scripture doth not clearly enough propose al points of faith is euident First becaus as we haue already proued it teacheth not al points of faith immediatly and much less so clearly as is necessarie to beget diuine faith of them al Secondly becaus Scripture nowhere saieth that it teacheth al points of faith so clearly And therfore Protestants can haue no diuine faith that it teacheth al points so clearly as is necessarie to faith Thirdly becaus the Scripture itself saieth that in it are some hard and difficult things 2. Petri 3. And Acts 8. When S. Phillip had asked the Eunuch whether he vnderstood what he read in Scripture He answered And how can I vnles somes hew me and the place which he read was of the passion of Christ which is a most necessarie point of faith Whervpon Whitaker l. 2. de Scriptura p. 229. saieth The Eunuch without Philip nether beleued nor vnderstood what was sufficient to saluation And yet he was a pious man And Luke 24. Iesus beginning from Moises and al the Prophets interpreted to them in al Scriptures which were of him And what
August serm 194. de Temp. See more infâ—a c. 24. Laude sec 11. § 11. Plessie de Eccles c. 4. Leo Epist â—om 13. See him 〈◊〉 de vnit c. 1. 3. 5. 7. 10. 11. 16. 18. 20. Fathers Regula fidei And of ordination the Councel of Trent sess 23. c. 3. saieth that by the testimonie of Scripture it is manifest that grace is giuen by ordâ—nation And sess 13. c. 1. professeth that Christ gaue his Bodie to his Apostles in plain and express words and in a most manifest sense And proueth al most al its Decrees of faith by manifest places of Scripture The same also teacheth S. Austin l. 2. de peccatorum meritis c. vlt I beleue that herein the authoritie of scriptures would be most clear if man could not be ignorant of it without loss of promised saluation And l. 2 de Doctrina Christiana c. 9. In those things which are plainly set down in scripture are found al which contein faith and manner of life In which words I note those If man that is if man could not be ignorant of it without loss of Saluation which clearly shew that he speaketh of things necessarie to be actually beleued of al men And in the second place he saieth not which contein al faith but which is necessarie to saluation and which before he had called Regula credendi And l. 3. c. 2. he saieth the Rule of faith is gathered out of the plainer places of scripture And the Rule of faith or Rule of beleif conteineth not al faith but al that is absolutly necessarie to Saluation For a Rule is not to contein but to regulate al. Regula dicta est eo quod recte ducit nec aliquem trahit D. 3. apuâ— Gratian. aliorsum 2. Nether is this contrarie to that which Fathers and Catholiks say that the Scriptures are hard or obscure First becaus to say that the Scriptures are easie for the summ of Christian faith and points by Gods apointment absolutly necessarie to be beleued explicitly of al is not to say absolutly that the Scriptures are easie but onely that they are easie in some parte and that a smal one too Secondly becaus a way may be said dangerous if in some parte it be so though not in al partes so the Scripture may be said hard and obscure if in some parte it be such Thirdly becaus though the Scripture may be easie to be vnderstood yet it may be hard to be infallibly sure that we rightly vnderstand it without the assurance of the Church THREE AND TWENTITH CHAPTER That the Scripture is necessarie to the better being of Christian faith 1. THat Scripture is necessarie to the better being of Christian faith is euident both by what the Apostle saieth 2. Tim. 3. Al scripture diuinely inspired is profitable to teach to reproue to instruct c. and also by what hath been saied in the former Chapter that it teacheth al points fundamental or absolutly necessarie to be beleued explicitly of al that it teacheth the most points of Christian faith in sending vs to the Church which teacheth them al. Besids it helpeth to remember better what we are to beleue it describeth what is the true Church and which are the Notes and giueth testimonie to her And it is a main confirmation of the true Christian faith and a great confutation of heresies contrarie to it and the onely armes proper to Christians which they haue against most heretiks For they denying the Infallibilitie of the Church Councels or Fathers and reiecting al testimonie of miracles leaue the true Christian Church no proper armes to fight against them but the Scripture which God hath made to be of so great esteem among Christians as S. Austin saieth None wil refuse Scripture who wil be accounted in anie sort a Christian And otherwhere No Christian wil goe against scripture no quiet man against the Church no man in his wits against reason And Vincentius Lyrinensis c. 39. addeth we must ether impugne older heresies only with scripture or auoid them being condemned by General Councels Moreouer it is not likelie that ether the holie Writers would haue been so careful to write or the Church to conserue the holie Scripture if it had not been thought to haue been in some sorte necessarie to Christian faith And what great necessitie soeuer some Protestants pretend that there is of Scripture Whitaker confesseth that there is no absolute necessitie of it and that some parte of Scripture helpeth though not to the being yet to the better being of faith And Chillingworth that it is not so much of the being of Christian doctrin as requisit to the wel being of it as we shewed c. 11. sec 2. which is but in other termes to say as we doe that it is but necessarie to the better being of Christian faith and religion So that indeed they make no greater necessitie of Scripture then we doe whatsoeuer they pretend in words as we shewed before that they say that the Scripture conteineth not so much as we say nor is more clear then we say it is yet becaus sometimes they pretend the contrarie we wil now answer to their obiections FOVRE AND TWENTITH CHAPTER Protestants arguments out of Scripture that it conteineth al points of faith ansvvered 1. THeir chiefest place out of Scripture that it conteineth al points of faith is 2. Tim. 3. Al scripture diuinely inspired is profitable to teach to reproue to correct to instruct in iustice that the man of God be perfect instructed to euerie good work out of which they inferr that the Scripture sufficiently teacheth al points of faith Catholiks answer First that S. Paul speaketh onely of the old Testament is as euident becaus much of the Newâ— was not then written as also becaus he saieth that Timothy had known it from his Childhood and he had not known the New Testament from his Childhood And if Protestants wil say the Old testament sufficiently teacheth al points of faith they make the New Testament needles which none of them dare say at least it were not necessarie For how can the New testament be necessarie if the old be sufficient And I think they wil not say the New Testament is not necessarie And that S. Paul speaketh of the New testament Protestants nether proue nor can proue wheras we proue plainly that he speaketh onely of the old Testament 2. Their second answer is that the Apostle saieth not that the Scripture is sufficient but onely saieth profitable And a thing may be profitable which is not sufficient Their third is that the Apostle saieth not that the Scripture is profitable to teach al things to correct al things to reproue al things to instruct in al things but simply to teach to correct to reproue to instruct so that by to euerie good work he comprehendeth not euerie particular good work but al kinds of good works as are teaching correcting reprouing instructing And so three waies they answer sufficiently
If anie obey not our word note him And 1. Ioan. 4. v. 6. who knoweth God heareth vs who is not of God heareth not vs In this we know the spirit of truth and spirit of error Where doubtles he speaketh of infallible knowledg of God by hearing him and infallible knowledg could not haue been by hearing him if he had not been infallible in teaching Gods truth And these testimonies of scripture doe not only proue that God can giue to men diuine and infallible authoritie or veracitie but also that he hath giuen it to some 4. That the holie Fathers thought that God can giue diuine or infallible authoritie or veracitie to men wil be euident out of their testimonies a Infra c. 7. hereafter brought to proue that he hath giuen such to the Church And Reason conuinceth that he can giue such authoritie or veracitie to men because it implieth not contradiction For what contradiction can be pretended that God can if he please effectually assist some so that they teach nothing in matters of faith but truth as he efficaciously assisteth the elect that they cannot be led into error Math. 24. And his effectual assistance maketh their authoritie or veracitie to be so diuine Infallible as we desire and is sufficient to be an external ministerial or subordinat cause of diuine and infallible faith For it implieth contradiction that who is efficaciously assisted by God to say but truth should lie And I take it to be so euident that God can giue such authoritie or veracitie to his Church or to men as I think scarce anie Protestant wil haue the face â—o denie it For this is not to make men or the Church Primam veritatem prime veritie as Whitaker fondly argueth l. 2. de scrip p. 230. but only a secondarie veritie or veracitie subordinat and depending vpon Gods prime veritie or veracitie If God can giue to men endles eternitie and yet not make them Gods why can he not also giue them infallible veritie or veracitie and yet not make them Gods or Prime veritie If he can make weakmen not to fall why can he not make the Church not to err in points of faith If he can make that the elect who are the principal part of the Church shal not be led into error Matth. 24 why can he not make the Church it self § 45. Naye so manifest it is See infra c. 15. and Cal uin in Luc. 10. v. 16. that God can giue to men this kinde of diuine veracitie or infallibilitie as Protestants themselues sometimes confess that he hath giuen it to men For thus Whitaker l. 3. de scripturâ p. 395. The testimonie of the holie Diuine Ghost is internal of the Apostles external both in their kindâ—s diuine Sufficient l. 2. p. 310. the authoritie alone of the Apostles sufficed to cause faith l. 1. p. 46. The Apostles authoritie was so great that you might safely beleue their preaching for it self P. 49. though the Apostles were men yâ—t they were so extraordinarily gouerned of the holie Ghost Râ—lied on their testimonie that most certaine faith relied on their testimonie P. 51. The Apostles for their fulnes of the holie Ghost by certaine Marks deserued assured authoritie so as we beleue them alone Controu 2 q. 3. c. 5. the Apostles did consigne the canon as most certaine organs of the holie Ghost endued with diuine authoritie l. 1. de Scrip. c. 8. p. 86. it was safe to Diuine beleue Paul but speaking Laude Relat of the Controu sec 16. p. 81. If the speech be of the prime Christian Church the Apostles disciples and such as had immediat reuelation from heauen no question but the voice and tradition of this Church is diuine not Simply dâ—uine aliquo modo in a sort but simply P. 84. In the voice of the primitiue and Apostolical Church there was simply diuine authoritie P. 85. we resolue only into Resolue into Apostolical tradition prime tradition Apostolical and scripture it self P. 91. Euerie assistance of Christ and the blessed Spirit is not enough to make the authoritie of anie companie of men diuine and infallible but such and so great an assistance only as is purposely giuen to that effect Such an assistance the Prophets vnder the old testament and the Apostles vnder the New had P. 102. we haue a double diuine Diuine testimonie altogeither infallible to confirme to vs that scripture is the word of God The first is the tradition of the Apostles themselues The other the Scripture it self And into these we doe and may safely resolue our faith Sec. Safely resolue into Tradition 18. p. 123. The Prophets testimonie was diuine Sec. 33. p. 239. Al the places Diuine ether speak of the Church including the Apostles as al of them doe and then al grant the voice of the Church is Gods voice diuine and Infallible Potter sec 5. p. 5. The prime Church I call that which included Christ and the Apostles who had immediat reuelation Simply diuine from heauen the voice and testimonie of their Church is simply diuine and Infallible Ibid. p. 30. Their general Councels authoritie is immediatly deriued and delegated from Christ sec 1. p. 25. The high preist in cases of moment had a certaine priuiledg from error if he consulted the diuine oracle by the iudgement of Vrim or by the breast plate of iudgment wherin were Vrim and Thummim wherby he had an absolutly infallible direction If anie such Absolutely infallible promise of God to assist the Pope could be produced his decisions might then iustly pass for oracles without examination Behold the high Priest in cases of moment had a priuiledg from error had an absolutly infallible direction and if the Pope had such his decisions might pass for oracles Humfrey ad Rat. 3. Camp p. 214. Rock of faith we confess the Apostolik Church to be the rock of our faith Chillingworth c. 2. paragrapho 138. we saie that Infallibilitie continued in the Church euen togeither with the scripture so long as Christ and his Apostles were liuing And parag 155. As the Apostles persons whiles they were liuing were the only iudges of controuersies so their writings now they are dead are the onlie Rule to iudg them by Feild lib. 4. of the Greater then scripture Church c 11. If the comparison be made between the Church including the Euangelists we denie not but the Church is of greater authoritie antiquitie and excellencie then the scripture of the new testament White in his waie p. 74. The Apostles teaching was infallible Behold the authoritie the testimonie the voice the tradition of the Prophets Apostles Euangelists and of the Primitiue Church is altogeither infallible is diuine not in a sorte but simply as Gods voice is a sufficient cause of faith is to be beleued for it self for which alone we may beleue into which we maie resolue our faith the rock of faith
no firme or solid foundation of my beleef in anie thing Nor likewise no firme or solid Rule 6. Fiftly they grant that the voice Cause of diuine faith authoritie or testimonie of the Church is a true cause of diuine faith Whitaker l. 1. de Scriptura p. 118. The Church is Mother of beleuers P. 121. The Church by preaching the Gospel begot vs to Christ P. 175. I denie not that the voice of the Church is an instrumental cause of beleuing l. 3. c. 441. I exclude not the testimonie of the Church from a cause of beleuing if by cause you mean an instrument P. 442. Thou tellest what kinde of instrument the Church is to wit not dumb or dead but in which is its proper motion and vertue And who denieth this or knoweth not the necessitie or vertue of this instrument Ibid. p. 425. The Church is Mistress of faith Item faith is the effect of the Churches testimonie And contr 2. q. 5. c. 19. The Church maketh faithful by preaching of the word And l. 1. de Scrip. p. 145. out of both testimonies Spirit and Church faith is in some sort inflamed and burneth Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 3. God reuealeth truth by the Church c. 11. We confess God speaketh by the God speaketh by the Church Church And generally al Protestants confess that the Church is the Mother of the faithful and a mother is a true cause of her Children And if the Church be the mother of the faithful doe beget the faithful if her voice her testimonie be an instrumental cause of diuine faith if she haue a proper vertue in producing faith if diuine faith be the effect of her testimonie and by her preaching she make faithful Surely If the effect be diuine the cause is diuine she hath a diuine power or vertue For as Whitaker confesseth l. 1. de Scripturâ p. 166. The effect surpasseth not the cause and l. 3. § 415. Such as the doctrin and religion is which we professâ— such also must the cause and authoritie of beleuing be So also Potter sec 5. p. 7. Field of the Church l. 4. c. 2 Chillingworth c. 2. n 154. c. 3. n. 33. But the effect of the Church is truly diuine to wit diuine faith Therfore also her testimonie and is truly diuine And indeed how can we diuinely and infallibly beleue for a humane and fallible testimonie How can diuine faith be the effect of a humane testimonie SIXTEENTH CHAPTER That Protestants doe diuers vvaies grant that the Authoritie or Testimonie of the Church is a formal cause of diuine faith 1. THis followeth first out of that they granted the authoritie of the Church in matters of Sâ—p c. 15. n. 2. faith to be diuine For doubtles if it be diuine it may be some formal cause of diuine faith Nay they think as is before shewed that if it be diuine it may be the vltimate formal cause of diuine faith But otherwise they grant it also For first they confess that the cause why they beleue the Scripture is the authoritie of the Church Whitaker l. 2. de Scriptura p. 320. I grant indeed that the Ratio credendâ— est propâ—er quam credimus Vvhitaker l. 3. de Scrip. p 442. 459. Scripture is to be receaued becaus 〈◊〉 is receaued of the Church P. 312. Al Christians are moued by the authoritie of the Church to beleue the Gospel Cont. 1. q. 3. c. 9. Al these Fathers what other thing doe they proue then that the Gospel is to be receaued becaus it hath alwaies been receaued of the Church and some books to be reiected becaus the Church alwaies Becaus reiected them This we most willingly grant Ibid. sec 5. p. 322. we beleue them For. to be canonical not for the onelie testimonie or authoritie of the By. Church to beleue these books to be canonical And ibid. c. 1. This way seems For. tolerable that Scripture is diuine in it self but not acknowledged for such but for the testimonie of the Church Laude Relat. sec 15. p. 57. T is not denied that this baptisme of Infants is an Apostolical Therfore tradition and therfore to be beleued Chillingworth c. 2. p. 73. we must receaue the sacred canons vpon Vpon the credit of Gods Church Ibid. we wil Becaus say with Athanasius That onely fowr Gospels are to be receaued becaus the Canons of the holie Catholik Church vnderstand of al ages since the perfection of the Canons haue so determined Ibid. p. 62. We beleue the Scripture vpon Vpon the credibilitie of vniuersal tradition And c. 3. p. 140. We haue sufficient certaintie From. of Scripture from vniuersal tradition And what can those causal particles Becaus By For Vpon From Therfore in this matter signifie but a formal cause of beleef 2. Hooker l. 2. § 4. There is some pause wheron to rest our assurance of Pause to rest assurance or the Scripture beside the Scripture and some other thing which may assure vs. And this pause wheron to rest our assurance and which can assure vs of the Scripture he saieth l. 5. § 8. is the authoritie of the Church And what is that which is a pause wheron we rest the assurance of our beleef but some formal cause of our beleef Laude Relat. sec 16. p. 119. The credit of the Scripture to be diuine Main ground hath three main grounds The first is the tradition of the Church And is not that which is a main ground of beleef some formal cause of beleef And sec 38. p. 344. we relie vpon the infallible authoritie of the word of God and Relie vpon the whole Catholik Church And is not that some formal cause of beleef vpon which we relie as we doe vpon the word of God Couel art 4. p. Doubtless it is a tolerable opinion in the Church of Rome that the Scriptures are holie and diuine in themselues but so esteemed of vs for the authoritie of the Church And is not that For. for which we esteem the Scriptures to be diuine some formal cause of our esteem of them The like hath Whitaker contr 1. q. 3. c. 1. who also l. 1. de Script p. 23. saieth That the question between him and D. Stapleton was whether we are to beleue For. the Scripture to be diuine onely for the testimonie of the Church or rather for the inward persuasion of the holie Ghost The same he saieth contr 1. q. 3. c. 1. Wherin he plainly supposeth that we are to beleue the Scripture to be diuine for the authoritie of the Church and onely denieth that we are to beleue so for it alone Which al Catholiks also denie And contr 1. q. 3. c. 3. saieth Manie beleued Christ for the testimonie of Ihon. And c. 5. p. 322. we beleue them to be canonical not onely for the authoritie of the Church Then partly for her authoritie Ibid. It followeth not that we know
know which books be Canonical And why infallible in this and not in other points What word of God affirmeth that and denieth this Is it not plainly voluntarie to grant her to be infallible in this and not in other points of faith Is it not for to haue some pretence that Protestants are infallibly certaine that the Scripture is the word of God by testimonie of the Church and that being had to neglect her See S. Austin Cont. Epist. fundâ—m 〈◊〉 5. testimonie in other points of faith Is not this to make the infallibilitie of the Church to serue their turne as far as they haue need of it and otherwhere to leaue it For in the matter of the Scripture and other such points as they think themselues bound to beleue which are onely as they cal them the fundamental points they wil haue the Church to be infallible but in other points which they think themselues not bound to beleue they wil haue her to be fallible so that iust as far as they think themselues bound to beleue she is infallible and farther she is fallible 9. Fiftly they plainly insinuate Protestants beleue partly for the Church that they beleue the scripture to be Gods word partly for the testimonie and authoritie of the Church For thus their French Confession art 4. We acknowledg these books to be Canonical not onely for the common Protestants in Colâ—oq Rotâ—â—bâ—ess 11 Fulk 2. Tâ—essal 2. consent of the Church but also c. Laude sec 38. p. 330. I beleue the entire scripture first by the trrdition of the Church Whitaker Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 1. The summ of our opinion is that the scripture is of it self worthie to be beleued not onely becaus the Church hath so commanded Ibid. We reiect not the testimonie of the Church but denie that we beleue the scripture for her commendation alone And c. 5. We beleue them to be canonical not onely for the Churches testimonie and Authoritie but for c. The same he hath l. 1. de Scriptura p. 18. 52. Chillingworth c. 2. § 35. Protestants by the Churches consent are assured what scriptures be canonical § 155. scripture needs the attestation Scripture needs tradition of vniuersal tradition Field l. 4. c. 20. The number authors and integritie of canonical books we receaue by tradition And truely who say they beleue the Scripture not for the testimonie of the Church only doe plainly insinuate that they beleue it partly for her testimonie And as Chilling saieth c. 2. § 154. None can build an infallible faith vpon motiues that are onely lightly credible and noâ— infallible as it were a great and heauie burden vpon a foundation that hath not strenght proportionable For what is euen a partial formal cause of infallible beleef is infallible 10. Sixtly they teach that we ought to follow the Church King Iames in Praefat. Antiuors blameth Vorstius becaus he would not admit the Church to be Arbitrer of the errors obiected The Church is arbiter of controuersie to him Carleton l. de Eccles c. 1. what then wil some say Doe we see the Church in the Church I indeed doe so and after holie scripture wil ask my mother to shew herself and that the Church teach where the Church is to be sought White in defense of his waie c. 37. It is necessarie to finde and follow the teaching of the Church Whitaker l. 2. de Scrip. p. 234. I confess the Church is to be heard as a Mistress Potter sec 6. p. 66. It is verie meet that the ignorant people should submit themselues to the direction of the Church in manie profound doctrins aboue their reach sec 2. p. 28. The Church Catholik or vniuersal is confessed in some sense to be vnerring and he is little better then a pagan that despiseth her iudgmeâ—t Ibid. p. 52 Particular Churches ow to the Catholik mother of al Christians the duetie of obedience Geneuas note Prouerb 1. Frustrate not thy Mothers instruction that is the teaching of the Church Field in the Epist Dedicatorie before his books of the Church seing the Controuersies of Religion in our time are grown in number so manie and in Nature so intricate that few haue time and leasure fewer strenght of vnderstanding to examin them what remaineth for men desirous of satisfaction in things of such consequence but diligently to search out which among al the societies of men in the world is that blessed companie of holie ones that house hold of faith that Spouse of Christ and Church of the liuing God which is the pillar and ground of truth that so they may embrace her communion follow her directions and Rest in the iudgment of the Church rest in her iudgment Which words are so ful and so plain for the sufficient and safe proposal of the Church in al controuersies of faith as Chilling c. 2. n. 86. saieth They slipt vnaduisedly from him and he strained to high 11. But of al which hath in this Chapter been related out of Protestants it euidently appeareth first how manifest a truth it is that the Church of God is infallible in proposing matters of faith seing they haue so plainly and manifoldly confessed it partly directly partly indirectly though it doe quite ouerthrow their cause Secondly that if they would constantly stand to their aforesaied confessions there would be no more controuersies betwixt vs whether the true Church were the al-sufficient external proposer of al points of faith nor indeed about anie other matter of faith For Laude sect 33. p. 249. they confess in plain words that the true Church for more then a thousand yeares hath taught contrarie to their doctrin and therfore openly except against the Church after the first four or fiue hundred yeares and indeed against the Church of what time soeuer calling that in her ouersights and blemiâ—hes which in the Church of latter times they calerrors superstitions impietie Idolatries And thus hauing proued that the true Church is infallible in proposing points of faith let vs also proue that she is a necessarie proposer of them becaus this also is a necessarie condition of the Al-sufficient Proposer of matters of faith ELEVENTH CHAPTER That the true Church of God is in ordinarie course a necessarie Proposer of al points of faith proued by holie scripture 1. THAT the true Church of Christ is in ordinarie course a necessarie proposer of al points of faith so as we cannot in ordinarie course haue sauing faith of anie point vnles she propose it for diuine truth is euident out of those former places of Scripture whence we proued that she is a sufficient proposer of al points of faith For they proue not onely the sufficiencie but also the necessitie of her proposal Rom. 10. The Apostle giuing the necessarie ordinarie external cause of diuine faith giueth no other then hearing lawful preaching of the word of God saying How shal they beleue whome they haue not heard