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authority_n of_o god_n reveal_v be_v communicate_v to_o the_o understanding_n and_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o any_o one_o shall_v believe_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v reveal_v by_o god_n with_o a_o great_a degree_n of_o true_a and_o rational_a certainty_n than_o wherewith_o he_o be_v assure_v that_o god_n do_v reveal_v they_o aegidius_n estrix_fw-la 28._o estrix_fw-la est_fw-la diat_a de_fw-fr sapientiâ_fw-la dei_fw-la etc._n etc._n assert_v 26_o 27_o 28._o lay_v down_o and_o prove_v these_o three_o assertion_n 1._o that_o a_o assent_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v more_o certain_a than_o the_o principle_n upon_o which_o it_o depend_v 2._o that_o it_o can_v be_v more_o firm_a than_o those_o previous_a assent_n from_o which_o it_o be_v deduce_v 3._o that_o that_o which_o be_v otherwise_o be_v a_o imprudent_a assent_n and_o john_n martinonus_n 8._o martinonus_n non_fw-la potest_fw-la fides_fw-la supernaturalis_fw-la superare_fw-la formali_fw-la certitudine_fw-la sumptâ_fw-la ex_fw-la merito_fw-la objecti_fw-la certitudinem_fw-la carum_fw-la veritatum_fw-la quae_fw-la includuntur_fw-la in_o ipsius_fw-la objecto_fw-la &_o in_o quibus_fw-la fundatur_fw-la illa_fw-la certitudo_fw-la mart._n tom._n 5._o disp_n 20._o de_fw-la fide_fw-la sect._n 8._o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n write_v that_o supernatural_a faith_n can_v with_o a_o formal_a certainty_n take_v from_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o object_n exceed_v the_o certainty_n of_o those_o truth_n which_o be_v include_v in_o its_o object_n and_o in_o which_o that_o certainty_n be_v found_v since_o therefore_o the_o persuasion_n which_o papist_n have_v of_o what_o they_o believe_v either_o be_v or_o be_v think_v to_o be_v divine_a faith_n it_o hence_o appear_v that_o it_o can_v be_v solid_a unless_o they_o be_v assure_v by_o divine_a faith_n or_o some_o other_o not_o inferior_a persuasion_n that_o both_o the_o rule_n of_o their_o faith_n be_v true_a and_o that_o what_o they_o believe_v be_v entire_o conformable_a to_o they_o this_o our_o adversary_n confess_v and_o because_o some_o of_o they_o hold_v that_o no_o persuasion_n be_v of_o equal_a certainty_n with_o divine_a faith_n therefore_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o by_o divine_a faith_n they_o be_v ascertain_v of_o those_o two_o thing_n or_o at_o least_o the_o first_o of_o they_o so_o ludovicus_n caspensis_n 6._o caspensis_n nisi_fw-la fide_fw-la divinâ_fw-la credamus_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la pontifices_fw-la esse_fw-la successores_fw-la petri_n nihil_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la possimus_fw-la fide_fw-la divinâ_fw-la credere_fw-la lud._n cisp_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 2._o sect._n 6._o unless_o we_o can_v believe_v say_v he_o by_o divine_a faith_n that_o such_o and_o such_o pope_n be_v successor_n of_o peter_n there_o be_v nothing_o we_o can_v believe_v by_o divine_a faith._n martinonus_n 6._o martinonus_n neque_fw-la summus_fw-la pontifex_fw-la posset_n nos_fw-la obligare_fw-la ad_fw-la credendum_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la definit_a ut_fw-la dictum_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la nisi_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la esset_fw-la ipsum_fw-la habere_fw-la potestatem_fw-la definiendi_fw-la &_o infallibilem_fw-la assistentiam_fw-la mart._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 9_o sect._n 6._o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v not_o oblige_v we_o to_o believe_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la that_o which_o he_o define_v as_o say_v by_o god_n unless_o it_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la that_o he_o have_v the_o power_n of_o define_v and_o infallible_a assistance_n maimburgh_n 3._o maimburgh_n maimb_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr uraye_fw-fr parole_fw-fr chap._n 3._o have_v much_o to_o the_o same_o sense_n which_o will_v be_v here_o too_o long_o to_o insert_v if_o the_o opinion_n of_o these_o divine_n be_v receive_v by_o all_o the_o dispute_n will_v be_v the_o short_a for_o than_o i_o need_v only_o prove_v that_o none_o of_o our_o adversary_n be_v by_o divine_a faith_n assure_v of_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o his_o faith_n since_o all_o other_o kind_n of_o assurance_n be_v inferior_a to_o that_o of_o divine_a faith_n will_v not_o suffice_v but_o because_o this_o hypothesis_n although_o admit_v by_o most_o be_v deny_v by_o some_o few_o and_o labour_n with_o insuperable_a difficulty_n which_o i_o will_v not_o here_o touch_v i_o will_v not_o have_v the_o force_n of_o my_o argument_n rely_v upon_o it_o it_o remain_v therefore_o to_o be_v inquire_v whether_o our_o adversary_n can_v boast_v of_o any_o certainty_n in_o this_o matter_n distinct_a from_o and_o as_o they_o think_v not_o inferior_a to_o the_o certainty_n of_o divine_a faith._n but_o first_o we_o must_v lay_v down_o somewhat_o concern_v the_o kind_n and_o degree_n of_o certainty_n bellarmine_n 2._o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr justif_a lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o make_v a_o two_o fold_v certainty_n evident_a and_o obscure_a that_o of_o thing_n in_o themselves_o manifest_a this_o of_o thing_n that_o depend_v upon_o external_a proof_n and_o testimony_n 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distribution_n of_o the_o kind_n of_o certainty_n may_v be_v allow_v if_o the_o raise_v a_o conjectural_a opinion_n even_o to_o the_o low_a degree_n of_o it_o be_v not_o too_o improper_a and_o irrational_a but_o to_o pass_v by_o that_o this_o rather_o deserve_v notice_n that_o he_o have_v make_v no_o mention_n of_o that_o kind_n of_o certainty_n which_o be_v so_o famous_a in_o the_o school_n as_o neither_o whole_o evident_a nor_o whole_o obscure_a but_o mix_v of_o both_o such_o have_v theological_a conclusion_n which_o be_v deduce_v from_o two_o proposition_n the_o one_o evident_a the_o other_o reveal_v it_o need_v not_o much_o be_v inquire_v whether_o our_o adversary_n have_v this_o last_o certainty_n of_o the_o firmness_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o their_o faith._n for_o it_o be_v either_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n with_o the_o certainty_n of_o faith_n or_o of_o a_o diverse_a if_o of_o the_o same_o as_o some_o will_n then_o to_o prove_v that_o our_o adversary_n have_v not_o herein_o the_o certainty_n of_o divine_a faith_n will_v disprove_v this_o if_o of_o a_o diverse_a as_o most_o think_v than_o it_o be_v inferior_a to_o the_o other_o and_o less_o firm_a and_o consequent_o not_o sufficient_a beside_o such_o who_o think_v that_o these_o theological_a conclusion_n found_v upon_o a_o mix_a certainty_n be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la as_o alphonsus_n a_o castro_n and_o melchior_n canus_n must_v acknowledge_v that_o their_o opinion_n oppugn_v by_o so_o many_o and_o so_o great_a divine_n of_o the_o same_o party_n can_v be_v certain_a but_o a_o incertain_a opinion_n though_o true_a in_o itself_o can_v be_v the_o foundation_n of_o a_o undoubted_a certainty_n such_o as_o be_v that_o of_o divine_a faith._n last_o whether_o this_o certainty_n be_v or_o be_v not_o inferior_a to_o that_o of_o divine_a faith_n it_o can_v have_v no_o place_n here_o but_o absurd_o and_o preposterous_o for_o all_o this_o certainty_n be_v derive_v from_o thing_n reveal_v and_o can_v therefore_o add_v any_o to_o thing_n reveal_v theological_a conclusion_n be_v admit_v only_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o those_o reveal_v proposition_n from_o which_o they_o be_v deduce_v those_o proposition_n therefore_o can_v be_v admit_v for_o the_o sake_n of_o these_o conclusion_n without_o a_o manifest_a and_o absurd_a circle_n i_o do_v not_o remember_v that_o
the_o universal_a church_n know_v of_o it_o and_o wink_v at_o it_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n canus_n 3._o canus_n sunius_fw-la aut_fw-la paucorum_fw-la opinatio_fw-la non_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la rejecta_fw-la tum_fw-la plurimorum_fw-la authoritas_fw-la nihil_fw-la certum_fw-la firmumque_fw-la conficiet_fw-la can._n loc_fw-la theol._n lib._n 7._o cap._n 3._o teach_v that_o if_o the_o opinion_n of_o one_o or_o a_o few_o be_v not_o rejecse_v by_o the_o church_n then_o the_o contrary_a authority_n of_o many_o will_v produce_v nothing_o firm_a or_o certain_a there_o be_v extant_a among_o the_o work_n of_o the_o fratres_n valemburgii_n a_o treatise_n call_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n write_v former_o in_o french_a by_o veron_n and_o translate_v into_o latin_a by_o the_o valemburgii_n and_o so_o open_o adopt_v by_o they_o that_o whatsoever_o veron_n write_v of_o himself_o in_o the_o singular_a they_o translate_v in_o the_o plural_a so_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v contain_v in_o it_o may_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o three_o writer_n now_o the_o chief_a scope_n of_o this_o book_n be_v to_o show_v that_o not_o a_o few_o opinion_n teach_v by_o many_o of_o their_o doctor_n and_o by_o we_o affix_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o of_o faith_n but_o may_v be_v safe_o deny_v to_o the_o obtain_n of_o this_o end_n they_o make_v use_v chief_o of_o two_o mean_n the_o silence_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o doctor_n of_o a_o contrary_a opinion_n and_o section_n 15._o catholicâ_fw-la 15._o variae_fw-la sunt_fw-la hâc_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la doctorum_fw-la sententiae_fw-la quod_fw-la vel_fw-la solum_fw-la sufficit_fw-la probando_fw-la id_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-fr fide_fw-la catholicâ_fw-la have_v these_o word_n that_o the_o different_a judgement_n of_o the_o doctor_n herein_o may_v aloné_fw-fr suffice_v to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o faith._n upon_o this_o foundation_n proceed_v all_o those_o divine_n who_o maintain_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v infallible_a or_o superior_a to_o a_o council_n thus_o the_o valemburgii_n 111._o valemburgii_n eâ_fw-la solìen_fw-la de_fw-la causâ_fw-la non_fw-la affirmamus_fw-la hanc_fw-la propositionem_fw-la fide_fw-la catholicâ_fw-la esse_fw-la tenendam_fw-la quòd_fw-la authores_fw-la qui_fw-la contrarium_fw-la sentiunt_fw-la nondum_fw-la videamus_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la damnatos_fw-la pro_fw-la haereticis_fw-la val._n tom._n 1._o tract_n 1._o exam._n 3._o numb_a 111._o write_v that_o for_o this_o cause_n only_o they_o will_v not_o affirm_v this_o proposition_n to_o be_v of_o catholic_n faith_n because_o author_n of_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n be_v not_o condemn_v by_o the_o church_n for_o heretic_n so_o bannes_n 2._o bannes_n bann_n in_o 2.2_o quaest_a 1._o art_n 10._o dub_v 2._o bellarmine_n 2._o bellarmine_n bell._n de_fw-fr pont._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 2._o vasquez_n 1._o vasquez_n vasq_fw-la in_o 3._o disp_n 137._o cap._n 1._o and_o duval_n 344._o duval_n duval_n in_o 2.2_o p._n 344._o tell_v we_o that_o they_o will_v not_o assert_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n to_o be_v heresy_n because_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o condemn_v by_o pope_n or_o council_n and_o be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n but_o gillius_fw-la 4._o gillius_fw-la quare_fw-la rigida_fw-la videtur_fw-la censura_fw-la quâ_fw-la bannes_n oppositam_fw-la notat_fw-la sententiam_fw-la vocans_fw-la eam_fw-la temerariam_fw-la gill._n the_o doctr_n sacrâ_fw-la lib._n 1._o tract_n 7._o cap._n 4._o go_v far_o and_o reprehend_v banne_n for_o inflict_v even_o a_o mark_n of_o rashness_n upon_o the_o opinion_n of_o one_o only_a sense_n of_o scripture_n since_o four_o divine_n alensis_n albertus_n henricus_n and_o medina_n have_v defend_v it_o this_o opinion_n of_o our_o adversary_n be_v ground_v on_o a_o double_a foundation_n the_o first_o gillius_fw-la declare_v in_o express_a word_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v not_o credible_a that_o so_o many_o learned_a and_o pious_a person_n shall_v either_o not_o know_v what_o the_o catholic_n faith_n teach_v or_o know_v it_o shall_v oppose_v it_o the_o second_o be_v that_o it_o will_v be_v a_o most_o unpardonable_a neglect_n of_o the_o church_n to_o see_v the_o faith_n tear_v in_o piece_n by_o her_o child_n and_o be_v silent_a in_o so_o urgent_a a_o occasion_n for_o by_o that_o connivance_n she_o shall_v at_o least_o indirect_o confirm_v heresy_n it_o be_v a_o rule_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n 83._o law_n error_n cvi_fw-la non_fw-la resistitur_fw-la approbatur_fw-la dist_n 83._o that_o a_o error_n which_o be_v not_o resist_v be_v approve_v if_o therefore_o i_o demonstrate_v that_o not_o one_o or_o two_o but_o many_o of_o the_o roman_a divine_n and_o those_o the_o most_o celebrate_a and_o by_o their_o merit_n prefer_v to_o the_o great_a dignity_n in_o the_o church_n be_v not_o only_o ignorant_a of_o but_o also_o open_o deny_v this_o infallibility_n i_o shall_v at_o the_o same_o time_n prove_v that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o faith._n the_o former_a will_n easy_o be_v perform_v for_o first_o the_o most_o noble_a and_o learned_a jo._n fr._n picus_n 4._o picus_n voluerunt_fw-la multi_fw-la concilium_fw-la si_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la pontifice_fw-la in_o iis_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la essentiam_fw-la fidei_fw-la pertinent_a sententiam_fw-la ferat_fw-la nullo_n pacto_fw-la errare_fw-la posse_fw-la restitêre_fw-la alii_fw-la affirmantes_fw-la errare_fw-la posse_fw-la concilia_fw-la &_o jam_fw-la errâsse_fw-la nec_fw-la ad_fw-la huc_fw-la aliquid_fw-la quod_fw-la sciam_fw-la promulgatum_fw-la est_fw-la cujus_fw-la vi_fw-la ad_fw-la alterutrum_fw-la credendum_fw-la obstringamur_fw-la picus_n ad_fw-la theor._n 4._o prince_n of_o mirandula_n confess_v that_o their_o doctor_n and_o canonist_n be_v divide_v in_o their_o opinion_n whether_o a_o pope_n and_o council_n conjunct_o define_v matter_n of_o faith_n can_v err_v or_o not_o and_o that_o we_o be_v not_o oblige_v to_o believe_v 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clemangis_fw-la jacobatius_n j._n fr._n picus_n but_o who_o can_v imagine_v so_o many_o and_o so_o great_a man_n either_o not_o to_o have_v know_v what_o be_v of_o faith_n or_o wilful_o to_o have_v teach_v the_o contrary_a this_o move_v suarez_n to_o esteem_v the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o pastor_n thus_o consent_v uncertain_a it_o be_v ask_v say_v he_o 6._o he_o petitur_fw-la a_o omnes_fw-la episcopi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la possint_fw-la convenire_fw-la in_o aliquo_fw-la errore_fw-la nam_fw-la inter_fw-la catholicos_fw-la quidam_fw-la affirmant_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la invenitur_fw-la promissio_fw-la alii_fw-la negant_fw-la quia_fw-la etc._n etc._n mihi_fw-la verò_fw-la neutrum_fw-la videtur_fw-la satis_fw-la exploratum_fw-la probabile_fw-la autem_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la providentiam_fw-la christi_fw-la pertinere_fw-la ut_fw-la id_fw-la non_fw-la permittat_fw-la suar._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 5._o sect._n 6._o whether_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n can_v agree_v 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this_o must_v be_v answer_v that_o they_o teach_v so_o because_o they_o believe_v so_o then_o if_o you_o ask_v why_o they_o believe_v so_o no_o other_o answer_n can_v be_v give_v than_o because_o they_o believe_v so_o which_o be_v so_o foolish_a as_o that_o i_o need_v not_o urge_v it_o any_o far_o chap._n xxiv_o that_o the_o faith_n of_o all_o single_a christian_n can_v rely_v upon_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n because_o first_o it_o appear_v not_o who_o belong_v to_o that_o church_n which_o be_v think_v infallible_a thus_o far_o have_v we_o consider_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o it_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o pastor_n or_o clergy_n it_o remain_v that_o we_o treat_v of_o it_o as_o it_o be_v believe_v both_o by_o clergy_n and_o laity_n which_o be_v the_o last_o refuge_n of_o our_o adversary_n here_o i_o undertake_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o whereon_o the_o faith_n of_o all_o private_a christian_n can_v less_o rely_v and_o that_o 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especial_o the_o french._n the_o second_o be_v teach_v by_o many_o for_o all_o those_o seem_v to_o favour_v it_o who_o desine_fw-la the_o church_n to_o be_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a of_o who_o launoy_n gattin_n launoy_n laun._n epist_n tom._n 8._o ad_fw-la gattin_n reckon_v up_o a_o very_a great_a number_n but_o it_o be_v open_o and_o manisest_o teach_v by_o alensis_n clemangis_n turrecremata_fw-la and_o jacobatius_n while_o in_o the_o place_n former_o cite_v they_o assert_v that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v reduce_v to_o one_o only_a woman_n as_o it_o actual_o be_v at_o the_o time_n of_o our_o saviour_n passion_n the_o university_n of_o cracow_n produce_v by_o launoy_n supra_fw-la launoy_n vbi_fw-la supra_fw-la desined_a militantem_fw-la desined_a est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la corpus_fw-la mysticum_fw-la organicum_fw-la side_n chrisli_n animatum_fw-la exit_fw-la quo_fw-la fit_a quod_fw-la omnes_fw-la baptizati_fw-la habentes_fw-la fidem_fw-la christi_fw-la sive_fw-la informem_fw-la sine_fw-la formatam_fw-la constituunt_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la militantem_fw-la the_o church_n to_o be_v a_o mystical_a organical_a body_n animate_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n constitute_v by_o all_o baptize_v person_n have_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n either_o in_o form_n or_o formal_a the_o same_o opinion_n be_v accurate_o and_o large_o defend_v by_o suarez_n 2._o suarez_n suar._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 9_o sect._n 2._o arriaga_n 2._o arriaga_n arr._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 7._o sect._n 2._o and_o caspensis_n 2.9_o caspensis_n casp_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 2._o sect._n 2.9_o among_o the_o modern_n the_o three_o opinion_n seem_v to_o be_v favour_v by_o bannes_n 47._o bannes_n catechumeni_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la pertinent_a ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la invisibilem_fw-la siquidem_fw-la sunt_fw-la membra_fw-la christi_fw-la per_fw-la charitatem_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la visibilem_fw-la secundùm_fw-la quid_fw-la viz._n per_fw-la votum_fw-la &_o desiderium_fw-la bann_n in_o 2.2_o qu._n 1._o art_n 10._o p._n 47._o while_o he_o say_v the_o catechuman_n simple_o belong_v to_o the_o invisible_a church_n as_o be_v member_n of_o christ_n through_o charity_n but_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n only_o in_o part_n viz._n in_o wish_n and_o desire_v but_o he_o incline_v more_o to_o the_o second_o in_o these_o word_n 90._o word_n ecclesia_fw-la licet_fw-la sit_fw-la respublica_fw-la quaedam_fw-la visibilis_fw-la requirit_fw-la tamen_fw-la aliquid_fw-la invisibile_fw-la sc_fw-la fidem_fw-la haeretici_fw-la ergo_fw-la extra_fw-la eam_fw-la sunt_fw-la cum_fw-la fidem_fw-la non_fw-la habeant_fw-la id._n comm_n fus_fw-fr in_o art_n 10._o p._n 90._o the_o church_n although_o it_o be_v a_o visible_a commonwealth_n require_v somewhat_o invisible_a to_o wit_n faith._n heretic_n therefore_o as_o want_v that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o another_o place_n 47._o place_n fideles_fw-la peceatores_fw-la sunt_fw-la verè_fw-la part_n ecclesiae_fw-la militantis_fw-la id._n comm._n brev_n p._n 47._o the_o faithful_a which_o be_v sinner_n be_v true_o part_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a but_o to_o omit_v banne_n the_o three_o opinion_n be_v open_o maintain_v by_o hugo_n à _fw-fr sancto_fw-la victore_fw-la who_o word_n be_v these_o 3_o these_o ecclesia_fw-la habet_fw-la lapides_fw-la sc_fw-la fideles_fw-la qui_fw-la sicut_fw-la per_fw-la caementum_fw-la lapis_fw-la jungitur_fw-la lapidi_fw-la sic_fw-la per_fw-la charitatem_fw-la junguntur_fw-la sibi_fw-la hug._n lib._n c._n serm._n serm._n 3_o the_o church_n have_v stone_n to_o wit_n the_o faithful_a who_o as_o one_o stone_n be_v join_v to_o another_o by_o cement_n be_v join_v to_o the_o church_n by_o charity_n and_o in_o another_o place_n 2._o place_n ecclesia_fw-la sancta_fw-la corpus_fw-la est_fw-la christi_fw-la uno_fw-la spiritu_fw-la vivificata_fw-la &_o unita_fw-la fide_fw-la unâ_fw-la &_o sanctificata_fw-la hoc_fw-la itaque_fw-la nomen_fw-la significat_fw-la membra_fw-la christi_fw-la participantia_fw-la spiritum_fw-la christi_fw-la id._n de_fw-fr sacr._n part_n 2._o cap._n 2._o the_o holy_a church_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n quicken_v by_o one_o spirit_n and_o unite_v by_o one_o faith_n and_o sanctify_a this_o word_n therefore_o signify_v the_o member_n of_o christ_n partake_v of_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n antoninus_n of_o florence_n after_o he_o have_v say_v the_o church_n be_v sometime_o take_v for_o the_o general_n collection_n of_o the_o faithful_a subjoin_v these_o word_n 1._o word_n secundo_fw-la modo_fw-la sumitur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la pro_fw-la congregatione_fw-la bonorum_fw-la fidelium_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la per_fw-la charitatem_fw-la christo_fw-la incorporati_fw-la haec_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la regitur_fw-la à _fw-la sp._n s._n corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la mysticum_fw-la quod_fw-la vegetatur_fw-la spiritu_fw-la ejus_fw-la pro_fw-la quâ_fw-la christus_fw-la oravit_fw-la ne_fw-la fides_fw-la desiceret_fw-la ant._n summ._n theol._n part_n 3._o tit_n 12._o c._n 1._o in_o the_o second_o place_n the_o church_n be_v take_v for_o the_o congregation_n of_o good_a believer_n who_o be_v incorporate_v into_o christ_n by_o charity_n this_o be_v that_o church_n which_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v animate_v by_o his_o spirit_n for_o which_o christ_n pray_v that_o her_o faith_n shall_v not_o fail_v the_o same_o say_v cusanus_fw-la 4._o cusanus_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la corpus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quod_fw-la ita_fw-la se_fw-la habuit_fw-la ex_fw-la praedestinatis_fw-la tantùm_fw-la constitui_fw-la existentes_fw-la in_o gratiâ_fw-la praesentis_fw-la justitiae_fw-la solum_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la esse_fw-la censentur_fw-la cus_n concord_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o this_o body_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v thus_o dispose_v which_o adher_v to_o christ_n in_o spirit_n in_o which_o the_o spirit_n dwell_v quicken_a the_o whole_a body_n be_v make_v up_o only_o of_o predestinate_a person_n only_o those_o person_n therefore_o who_o continue_v in_o the_o grace_n of_o present_a righteousness_n be_v account_v to_o be_v of_o the_o church_n dionysius_n carthusianus_n 26._o carthusianus_n aedificabo_fw-la &_o confirmabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la congregationem_fw-la fidelium_fw-la
corda_fw-la eorum_fw-la per_fw-la fidem_fw-la charitatem_fw-la &_o gratiam_fw-la mihi_fw-la inseparabiliter_fw-la connectendo_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la sint_fw-la unum_fw-la corpus_fw-la mysticum_fw-la unaque_fw-la domus_fw-la carth._n in_o matth._n xvi_o art_n 26._o bring_v in_o christ_n thus_o speak_v i_o will_v build_v and_o confirm_v my_o church_n that_o be_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a by_o inseparable_o unite_n their_o heart_n to_o i_o by_o faith_n charity_n and_o grace_n so_o as_o all_o may_v be_v one_o mystical_a body_n and_o one_o house_n j._n fr._n picus_n mirandula_n 13._o mirandula_n a_o propriâ_fw-la vocabuli_fw-la significatione_n recedendum_fw-la ipse_fw-la non_fw-la putarem_fw-la ut_fw-la primò_fw-la &_o propriè_fw-la principalissimeque_fw-la sancta_fw-la catholica_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la diceretur_fw-la quae_fw-la omnes_fw-la rectae_fw-la &_o apostolicae_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o non_fw-la fictae_fw-la charitatis_fw-la homines_fw-la 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non_fw-la est_fw-la universa_fw-la fidelium_fw-la in_o legitimis_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la communio_fw-la sed_fw-la sola_fw-la congregatio_fw-la justorum_fw-la seu_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la communio_fw-la lup._n in_o council_n tom_fw-mi 4._o p._n 818._o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n which_o receive_v the_o key_n be_v not_o the_o universal_a communion_n of_o the_o faithful_a in_o the_o lawful_a sacrament_n but_o the_o sole_a congregation_n of_o the_o just_a or_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n which_o he_o pursue_v at_o large_a and_o prove_v by_o many_o testimony_n of_o st._n augustine_n to_o which_o we_o may_v add_v many_o other_o no_o less_o cogent_a of_o other_o father_n as_o st._n hierom_n agobardus_n bernard_n etc._n etc._n if_o our_o argument_n consist_v in_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o opinion_n it_o suffice_v to_o show_v it_o be_v receive_v by_o many_o and_o consequent_o that_o our_o adversary_n do_v not_o agree_v in_o form_v the_o idea_n of_o a_o church_n now_o this_o dissension_n be_v of_o great_a moment_n for_o if_o the_o second_o or_o especial_o the_o three_o opinion_n be_v true_a the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o adversary_n will_v be_v whole_o overthrow_v for_o not_o to_o say_v that_o if_o sinner_n be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o pope_n and_o whole_a council_n may_v perhaps_o not_o belong_v to_o it_o and_o so_o want_v that_o infallibility_n which_o be_v appropriate_v to_o the_o true_a church_n to_o omit_v this_o since_o we_o treat_v not_o now_o of_o active_a but_o passive_a infallibility_n i_o say_v that_o according_a to_o this_o hypothesis_n the_o faith_n of_o our_o adversary_n can_v rely_v upon_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n for_o to_o conform_v themselves_o to_o this_o rule_n of_o faith_n they_o must_v first_o perfect_o know_v it_o which_o can_v be_v if_o they_o know_v not_o what_o be_v that_o church_n who_o faith_n they_o ought_v to_o follow_v but_o how_o shall_v they_o know_v the_o church_n if_o that_o consist_v only_o of_o pious_a man_n who_o none_o will_v deny_v to_o be_v know_v to_o god_n alone_o canus_n be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o this_o who_o reject_v this_o opinion_n because_o say_v he_o 3._o he_o incerta_fw-la erunt_fw-la omne_fw-la si_fw-la apud_fw-la solos_fw-la pios_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la can._n loc_fw-la theol._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 3._o all_o thing_n will_v be_v uncertain_a if_o the_o church_n be_v limit_v to_o pious_a men._n will_v our_o adversary_n therefore_o say_v that_o the_o first_o of_o these_o opinion_n be_v certain_a the_o other_o undoubted_o false_a that_o be_v easter_n affirm_v than_o prove_v beside_o of_o what_o degree_n of_o certainty_n will_v they_o have_v their_o assertion_n to_o be_v not_o certain_o of_o divine_a faith_n unlessheresie_n be_v impute_v to_o all_o those_o learned_a man_n who_o maintain_v the_o second_o and_o three_o opinion_n but_o no_o other_o degree_n of_o certainty_n can_v be_v obtain_v in_o these_o thing_n nor_o will_v any_o other_o suffice_v chap._n xxv_o that_o our_o adversary_n have_v no_o way_n of_o know_v the_o true_a church_n it_o do_v not_o appear_v therefore_o who_o they_o be_v that_o true_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o suppose_v it_o be_v and_o that_o all_o baptise_a person_n outward_o profess_v the_o true_a faith_n be_v member_n of_o it_o which_o opinion_n most_o please_v our_o adversary_n and_o be_v most_o advantageous_a for_o they_o it_o be_v still_o to_o be_v inquire_v which_o out_o of_o so_o many_o society_n that_o challenge_v to_o themselves_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n just_o and_o true_o claim_v it_o for_o not_o any_o one_o that_o first_o occurr_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v and_o prefer_v before_o the_o rest_n but_o here_o if_o any_o where_o a_o diligent_a and_o accurate_a examination_n be_v to_o be_v use_v lest_o instead_o of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n we_o follow_v the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n and_o for_o divine_a revelation_n receive_v execrable_a error_n this_o especial_o become_v they_o who_o when_o they_o have_v find_v the_o church_n give_v over_o any_o further_a enquiry_n and_o receive_v without_o examination_n all_o the_o dictate_v of_o it_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v very_o vigilant_a and_o curious_a in_o the_o choice_n of_o their_o guide_n lest_o if_o they_o haply_o mistake_v they_o incur_v that_o sentence_n of_o christ_n if_o the_o blind_a lead_v the_o blind_a both_o will_v fall_v into_o the_o ditch_n let_v we_o see_v therefore_o whether_o our_o adversary_n can_v boast_v they_o have_v make_v a_o just_a and_o accurate_a enquiry_n herein_o and_o most_o certain_o find_v out_o the_o true_a church_n there_o be_v chief_o three_o method_n of_o make_v this_o enquiry_n 1._o from_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n profess_v by_o any_o church_n and_o conformity_n of_o that_o to_o the_o word_n of_o god._n 2._o by_o note_n know_v only_o by_o the_o light_n of_o right_a reason_n and_o independent_o from_o the_o word_n of_o god._n 3._o by_o note_n which_o be_v mark_v out_o and_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n arriaga_n prefer_v the_o first_o method_n before_o all_o other_o i_o answer_v say_v he_o 5._o he_o respondeo_fw-la veritatem_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la probari_fw-la etiam_fw-la posse_fw-la non_fw-la recurrendo_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la imò_fw-la ante_fw-la primam_fw-la probationem_fw-la verae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la debere_fw-la probari_fw-la veritatem_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la etenim_fw-la cum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ut_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la definiatur_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la quòd_fw-la sit_fw-la coetus_fw-la profitentium_fw-la veram_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la fidei_fw-la repugnat_fw-la in_o terminis_fw-la i_o supponere_fw-la aliquam_fw-la congregationem_fw-la esse_fw-la veram_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la nisi_fw-la dicam_fw-la eo_fw-la ipso_fw-la ibi_fw-la esse_fw-la veram_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la ergo_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la primò_fw-la probare_fw-la veram_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la ex_fw-la verâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la arr._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 7._o sect._n 5._o that_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n may_v be_v prove_v without_o recur_v to_o the_o church_n yea_o and_o that_o before_o the_o first_o proof_n of_o the_o true_a church_n the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n ought_v to_o be_v prove_v he_o prove_v both_o part_n of_o his_o assertion_n large_o and_o in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o it_o make_v use_v of_o this_o argument_n for_o since_o the_o church_n as_o a_o church_n be_v define_v the_o congregation_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o the_o very_a term_n to_o suppose_v any_o congregation_n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n unless_o i_o do_v for_o that_o very_a reason_n suppose_v there_o be_v the_o true_a doctrine_n i_o can_v therefore_o first_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n be_v true_a from_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n to_o this_o we_o willing_o subscribe_v and_o approve_v this_o method_n of_o arriaga_n only_a not_o so_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o detest_v it_o and_o labour_n to_o render_v it_o both_o infamous_a and_o impossible_a pretend_v it_o to_o be_v full_a of_o inextricable_a difficulty_n and_o not_o to_o be_v surmount_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a much_o less_o by_o illiterate_a person_n wherefore_o i_o need_v not_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o true_a
church_n can_v be_v by_o this_o way_n know_v by_o our_o adversary_n they_o free_o grant_v it_o urge_v it_o and_o labour_n to_o demonstrate_v it_o the_o second_o method_n be_v use_v by_o many_o who_o contend_v that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v know_v independent_o from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n by_o the_o help_n of_o note_n and_o character_n perceive_v by_o natural_a reason_n such_o as_o be_v miracle_n sanctity_n antiquity_n amplitude_n and_o the_o like_a but_o they_o withal_o admonish_v that_o the_o church_n can_v this_o way_n be_v know_v as_o it_o have_v annex_v to_o it_o the_o privilege_n of_o infallibility_n by_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o consequent_o as_o it_o be_v the_o certain_a rule_n of_o faith._n they_o deny_v this_o can_v be_v any_o other_o way_n find_v out_o than_o by_o faith_n rely_v on_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o other_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n but_o that_o the_o authority_n which_o these_o note_n confer_v be_v humane_a fallible_a and_o a_o foundation_n only_o of_o humane_a and_o acquire_v not_o of_o divine_a and_o infuse_v faith._n so_o among_o infinite_a other_o teach_v canus_n 8._o canus_n loc._n theol._n l._n 2._o c._n 8._o bannes_n 4._o bannes_n in_o 2.2_o qu._n 1._o art_n 1._o dub_v 4._o suarez_n 10._o suarez_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 3._o sect._n 10._o duvall_n 10._o duvall_n in_o 2._o 2._o p._n 10._o conink_v 68_o conink_v de_fw-fr actib_n sup_v disp_n 17._o n._n 68_o arriaga_n 1_o arriaga_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 3._o sect._n 1_o ysambertus_n 2._o ysambertus_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 26_o art_n 2._o gillius_fw-la 9_o gillius_fw-la de_fw-fr doctr_n sacrâ_fw-la l._n 1._o tract_n 7._o c._n 9_o amicus_fw-la 5._o amicus_fw-la de_fw-fr side_n disp_n 2._o sect._n 5._o and_o rhodius_n 4._o rhodius_n duplex_fw-la est_fw-la authoritas_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la alia_fw-la est_fw-la purè_fw-la humana_fw-la prout_fw-la sc_fw-la eam_fw-la probant_fw-la miracula_fw-la prophetiae_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la alia_fw-la est_fw-la divina_fw-la prout_fw-la ex_fw-la assistentiâ_fw-la sp._n s._n est_fw-la infallibilis_fw-la neutra_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la objectum_fw-la formale_a fidei_fw-la non_fw-la prima_fw-la sequeretur_fw-la enim_fw-la sidem_fw-la esse_fw-la naturalem_fw-la esse_fw-la fallibilem_fw-la etc._n etc._n rhod._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la qu._n 1._o sect._n 4._o 4._o 4._o the_o last_o of_o these_o affirm_v there_o be_v a_o twofold_a authority_n of_o the_o church_n the_o one_o pure_o humane_a as_o it_o be_v prove_v by_o miracle_n prophecy_n and_o such_o like_a the_o other_o divine_a as_o it_o be_v infallible_a by_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n neither_o can_v be_v the_o formal_a object_n of_o faith._n not_o the_o first_o for_o than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o faith_n be_v natural_a fallible_a etc._n etc._n certain_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o imagine_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n redeem_v and_o govern_v by_o he_o and_o animate_v by_o his_o spirit_n can_v be_v know_v by_o the_o sole_a light_n of_o nature_n without_o revelation_n nature_n may_v discover_v somewhat_o admirable_a and_o excellent_a in_o it_o but_o nothing_o more_o than_o humane_a or_o exalt_v beyond_o humane_a infirmity_n but_o this_o be_v not_o that_o we_o seek_v for_o we_o be_v inquire_v a_o method_n of_o know_v the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o infallible_a which_o since_o this_o method_n can_v perform_v it_o can_v be_v produce_v in_o this_o place_n for_o these_o reason_n our_o adversary_n sly_a to_o the_o three_o method_n and_o endeavour_v to_o demonstrate_v the_o church_n from_o note_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o be_v assign_v in_o scripture_n so_o driedo_n 4._o driedo_n de_fw-fr eccl._n dogm_n l._n 2._o c._n 3._o l._n 4._o c._n 4._o from_o hence_o that_o christ_n be_v not_o now_o present_a nor_o teach_v with_o his_o own_o mouth_n in_o the_o church_n nor_o atte_v the_o preach_a of_o other_o with_o sign_n and_o miracle_n conclude_v we_o must_v necessary_o slay_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o inquire_v thence_o which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n stapleton_n 24._o stapleton_n dicimus_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o libentissimè_fw-la dicimus_fw-la cum_fw-la augustino_n in_o scripture_n be_v quaerendam_fw-la esse_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la i._n e._n quae_fw-la sint_fw-la notae_fw-la dote_v &_o proprietates_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ex_fw-la s._n scripturae_fw-la oraculis_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la humanis_fw-la document_n be_v investigandum_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-fr princip_n dectr_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 24._o we_o say_v therefore_o and_o willing_o acknowledge_v with_o st._n augustine_n that_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v seek_v for_o in_o the_o scripture_n that_o be_v what_o be_v the_o note_n privilege_n and_o property_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v find_v out_o from_o the_o oracle_n of_o holy_a scripture_n not_o from_o humane_a argument_n the_o same_o say_v the_o popish_a disputant_n in_o the_o conference_n of_o ratisbon_n 8._o ratisbon_n tantummodo_fw-la igitur_fw-la ex_fw-la scripture_n religionem_fw-la christionam_fw-la cognoscimus_fw-la quia_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la ex_fw-la notis_fw-la in_o scripturâ_fw-la declaratis_fw-la &_o non_fw-la ex_fw-la aliis_fw-la cognoscimus_fw-la quae_fw-la sit_fw-la vera_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la colloq_fw-la ratisb_n sess_n 8._o we_o know_v the_o christian_a religion_n only_o from_o the_o scripture_n because_o from_o the_o note_n only_o declare_v in_o scripture_n and_o from_o no_o other_o we_o know_v which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n this_o way_n also_o card._n richlieu_n 8._o richlieu_n meth._n liv_o 1._o chap._n 8._o chief_o follow_v but_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n inconsistent_a to_o be_v find_v in_o it_o as_o first_o that_o it_o suppose_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v acknowledge_v for_o the_o word_n of_o god._n for_o no_o man_n can_v believe_v the_o note_n of_o the_o church_n lay_v down_o in_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v true_a and_o certain_a till_o he_o be_v first_o persuade_v that_o all_o thing_n contain_v in_o it_o be_v true_a and_o divine_a but_o how_o shall_v he_o who_o have_v not_o yet_o know_v the_o church_n for_o such_o be_v he_o who_o inquire_v after_o it_o be_v assure_v of_o the_o divinity_n of_o scripture_n if_o it_o be_v true_a what_o our_o adversary_n so_o often_o inculcate_v that_o the_o scripture_n to_o we_o be_v of_o no_o authority_n till_o attest_v and_o confirm_v by_o the_o church_n thus_o a_o manifest_a circle_n will_v be_v commit_v scripture_n receive_v for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n card._n richlieu_n confess_v this_o a_o great_a difficulty_n but_o contend_v it_o may_v be_v solve_v by_o say_v the_o church_n be_v know_v independent_o from_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o help_n of_o note_n which_o natural_a reason_n sugge_v can_v agree_v to_o none_o but_o the_o true_a church_n but_o if_o the_o church_n can_v be_v know_v before_o the_o scripture_n what_o need_v the_o scripture_n be_v consult_v to_o find_v note_n whereby_o we_o may_v be_v bring_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o church_n to_o what_o end_n these_o labyrinth_n and_o fruitless_a toil_n to_o search_v out_o a_o thing_n already_o know_v not_o to_o say_v that_o this_o method_n be_v coincident_a with_o the_o second_o before_o mention_v and_o be_v therefore_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n to_o be_v reject_v beside_o it_o manifest_o contradict_v our_o adversary_n hypothesis_n concern_v the_o obscurity_n of_o scripture_n every_o one_o know_v how_o much_o they_o exaggerate_v this_o obscurity_n and_o richlieu_n himself_o within_o a_o few_o page_n of_o this_o place_n maintain_v it_o be_v obscure_a both_o as_o to_o the_o sense_n and_o as_o to_o the_o letter_n and_o that_o not_o only_o to_o the_o reprobate_n but_o even_o the_o elect_n to_o the_o faithful_a and_o doctor_n themselves_o who_o after_o all_o this_o can_v believe_v that_o he_o speak_v sincere_o and_o in_o earnest_n when_o he_o undertake_v to_o demonstrate_v out_o of_o this_o book_n so_o obscure_a and_o impenetrable_a to_o the_o great_a wit_n the_o character_n of_o the_o true_a church_n not_o to_o a_o doctor_n or_o a_o believer_n but_o to_o a_o infidel_n for_o this_o he_o pretend_v about_o his_o conversion_n be_v the_o dispute_v raise_v the_o cardinal_n therefore_o in_o that_o undertake_v a_o most_o difficult_a matter_n but_o the_o obscurity_n of_o scripture_n be_v not_o all_o the_o difficulty_n of_o this_o undertake_n for_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v demonstrate_v those_o thing_n be_v by_o scripture_n assign_v for_o the_o note_n of_o the_o church_n of_o which_o scripture_n be_v whole_o silent_a nay_o teach_v the_o contrary_a to_o some_o of_o they_o as_o may_v be_v evident_o prove_v if_o the_o intend_a brevity_n of_o this_o dissertation_n will_v permit_v it_o but_o suppose_v the_o scripture_n attribute_n to_o the_o church_n whatsoever_o our_o adversary_n will_v have_v to_o be_v so_o many_o note_n of_o it_o this_o avail_v not_o unless_o it_o appear_v that_o those_o note_n be_v not_o only_o true_a but_o also_o the_o only_a note_n and_o that_o no_o
lord_n bacon_n in_o argument_n civil_a moral_a natural_a etc._n etc._n with_o a_o large_a account_n of_o all_o his_o work_n by_o dr._n tho._n tenison_n 80._o dr._n henry_n bagshaw_n discourse_n on_o select_a text_n 80._o mr._n seller_n state_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o three_o first_o century_n dr._n burnet_n account_n of_o the_o life_n and_o death_n of_o the_o earl_n of_o rochester_n 80._o vindication_n of_o the_o ordination_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 80._o history_n of_o the_o right_n of_o prince_n in_o the_o dispose_v of_o ecclesiastical_a benefice_n and_o church-land_n 80._o relation_n of_o the_o present_a state_n of_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o french_a king_n and_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n to_o which_o be_v add_v the_o pope_n brief_a to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o their_o protestation_n publish_v by_o dr._n burnet_n 80._o dr._n cumber_n companion_n to_o the_o altar_n 80._o dr._n sherlock_n practical_a discourse_n of_o religious_a assembly_n 80._o defence_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n unreasonableness_n of_o separation_n 80._o a_o vindication_n of_o the_o defence_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o answer_n to_o mr._n baxter_n and_o mr._n job_n about_o catholic_n communion_n 80._o sir_n rob._n filmer_n patriarcha_fw-la or_o natural_a power_n of_o king_n 80._o bishop_n wettenhall_n method_n and_o order_n for_o private_a devotion_n 12_o s._n valentine_n private_a devotion_n 40._o dr._n spencer_n de_fw-fr legibus_fw-la hebraeorum_n ritualibus_fw-la &_o earum_fw-la rationibus_fw-la fol._n dr._n john_n lightfoots_n work_n in_o english_a in_o 2_o vol._n fol._n sir_n tho._n brown_n vulgar_a error_n with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o work_n fol._n patris_fw-la simâ—nii_fw-la disquisitionis_fw-la criticae_fw-la de_fw-la variis_fw-la per_fw-la diversa_fw-la loca_fw-la &_o tempora_fw-la bibliorum_fw-la â—_o editionibus_fw-la accedunt_fw-la castigat_fw-la opusc_n be_v vossi_fw-la de_fw-la sibyllinis_fw-la oraculis_fw-la 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