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A44213 The catechist catechized, or, An examination of an Anabaptistical catechism pretended to be published for the satisfaction and information of the people of God in Lancashire &c. : also some observations both old and new concerning the pretended visibility ... of the present Roman Church and religion / sent to a gentleman upon his revolt to popery and now published for the churches good by Richard Hollingworth. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1653 (1653) Wing H2487; ESTC R28107 42,729 60

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