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be_v great_a reason_n to_o take_v away_o marriage_n from_o priest_n but_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n to_o restore_v it_o unto_o they_o again_o and_o so_o we_o proceed_v to_o his_o next_o section_n the_o title_n whereof_o be_v this_o sect_n viii_o for_o what_o cause_n all_o heretic_n have_v be_v accustom_v to_o reject_v apostolical_a tradition_n when_o i_o first_o read_v the_o title_n of_o this_o section_n i_o expect_v no_o other_o stuff_n than_o i_o find_v therein_o even_o a_o deal_n of_o bombast_n to_o stuff_n it_o out_o and_o as_o the_o title_n be_v a_o digression_n so_o the_o whole_a section_n consist_v of_o three_o digression_n from_o the_o question_n the_o 1._o be_v of_o the_o affinity_n of_o heresy_n and_o idolatry_n the_o 2._o about_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n the_o 3._o be_v touch_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o word_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d tradition_n concern_v the_o 1._o he_o begin_v thus_o the_o reader_n must_v observe_v that_o heresy_n be_v a_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n 15â_n reply_v pag._n 15â_n for_o as_o s._n cyprian_n observe_v eccles_n observe_v câprian_n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles_n the_o enemy_n of_o mankind_n perceive_v how_o by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n and_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o his_o faith_n man_n be_v draw_v from_o idolatry_n unto_o the_o true_a service_n of_o god_n he_o be_v think_v himself_o how_o by_o a_o new_a illusion_n he_o may_v entrap_v poor_a soul_n under_o the_o very_a title_n and_o profession_n of_o christianity_n hereupon_o say_v s._n cyprian_n he_o invent_v new_a heresy_n and_o schism_n we_o confess_v all_o this_o and_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o with_o you_o be_v these_o thing_n idolatry_n heresy_n &_o only_o the_o title_n of_o christianity_n or_o a_o show_n of_o godliness_n there_o be_v never_o great_a idolatry_n among_o the_o heathen_n then_o be_v at_o this_o day_n defend_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o which_o cause_n namely_o for_o her_o idolatry_n s._n john_n compare_v she_o 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religious_a worship_n thereunto_o a_o senseless_a description_n and_o yet_o as_o senseless_a as_o it_o be_v such_o idolatry_n you_o be_v guilty_a of_o in_o worship_v of_o idol_n of_o silver_n and_o gold_n and_o of_o brass_n etc._n etc._n if_o a_o man_n worship_v the_o devil_n be_v it_o not_o idolatry_n yet_o he_o be_v no_o senseless_a creature_n your_o demi_fw-fr god_n the_o pope_n be_v a_o heretical_a idol_n to_o who_o that_o may_v well_o be_v apply_v which_o you_o lay_v to_o our_o charge_n for_o he_o be_v set_v up_o on_o the_o altar_n of_o your_o soul_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n he_o be_v so_o far_o besot_v with_o a_o selfe-liking_a of_o his_o own_o opinion_n that_o he_o tread_v underfoot_a all_o other_o authority_n both_o divine_a &_o humane_a as_o the_o power_n of_o scripture_n of_o father_n and_o of_o counsel_n which_o be_v nothing_o without_o he_o and_o he_o far_o above_o they_o and_o yet_o because_o he_o have_v some_o apprehension_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 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easy_o find_v out_o in_o the_o church_n by_o other_o he_o mean_v the_o valentinian_o the_o marcionist_n and_o those_o heretic_n against_o who_o he_o dispute_v among_o these_o we_o must_v not_o seek_v for_o the_o truth_n where_o then_o in_o the_o church_n must_v we_o not_o therefore_o seek_v it_o in_o the_o scripture_n this_o be_v to_o extract_v dross_n out_o of_o irenaeus_n his_o gold_n be_v the_o church_n without_o scripture_n and_o if_o we_o find_v truth_n in_o the_o church_n can_v we_o not_o therefore_o find_v it_o in_o the_o scripture_n ibidem_fw-la scripture_n iren_n ibidem_fw-la see_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v lay_v up_o full_o in_o she_o as_o in_o a_o reply_n reply_n rich_a store-house_n all_o whatsoever_o belong_v to_o the_o truth_n the_o preach_v and_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v the_o same_o for_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n be_v the_o endless_a treasure_n lay_v up_o in_o the_o church_n as_o in_o a_o rich_a store-house_n these_o be_v ibidem_fw-la be_v 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to_o teach_v other_o also_o here_o
5._o quaest_n 5._o be_v 1._o there_o be_v principle_n plain_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o many_o other_o article_n as_o of_o two_o nature_n and_o one_o person_n in_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n &c_n &c_n and_o of_o many_o other_o doctrine_n not_o express_o write_v and_o yet_o firm_o draw_v from_o scripture_n such_o aâe_n many_o other_o point_n as_o that_o of_o the_o consubstantiality_n 126_o reply_v pag._n 126_o of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n the_o proceed_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n as_o from_o one_o beginning_n that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a 12._o these_o three_o point_n which_o concern_v the_o glorious_a trinity_n father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n we_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v article_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o to_o be_v write_v though_o not_o formal_o yet_o virtual_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o it_o may_v be_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o contention_n move_v the_o jesuite_n to_o strive_v about_o the_o form_n of_o word_n and_o not_o about_o the_o form_n of_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o those_o word_n unbegotten_a consubstantial_a &c_n &c_n s._n augustine_n dispute_v about_o the_o same_o word_n say_v 174._o say_v quid_fw-la enim_fw-la contentiosive_n quam_fw-la ubi_fw-la dâre_fw-la constat_fw-la certare_fw-la de_fw-la nomine_fw-la august_n ad_fw-la pascent_fw-la arian_n epist_n 174._o what_o be_v contention_n if_o this_o be_v not_o to_o strive_v about_o word_n when_o we_o agree_v about_o the_o thing_n the_o word_n themselves_o be_v not_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n the_o church_n believe_v the_o same_o point_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o same_o word_n be_v use_v but_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o those_o word_n be_v the_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o if_o he_o will_v say_v the_o doctrine_n be_v not_o write_v because_o the_o word_n be_v not_o write_v he_o may_v aswell_o say_v the_o trinity_n of_o person_n and_o the_o unity_n of_o essence_n be_v unwritten_a doctrine_n because_o the_o word_n trinity_n and_o unity_n be_v not_o write_v it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n first_o to_o teach_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o write_v that_o so_o man_n may_v doubt_v of_o they_o and_o after_o deny_v they_o what_o a_o gap_n be_v here_o lay_v open_a to_o let_v in_o paganism_n atheism_n judaisme_n and_o sundry_a sort_n of_o heresy_n let_v he_o then_o recant_v his_o error_n lest_o he_o be_v burn_v for_o a_o heretic_n bellarmine_n make_v a_o better_a confession_n say_v 2_o say_v retinentur_fw-la à _fw-la nobisilla_fw-la nomina_fw-la essentia_fw-la homousios_fw-gr hypostasis_fw-la persona_fw-la &c_n &c_n quia_fw-la etsi_fw-la in_o scripture_n non_fw-la âabentur_fw-la âamen_fw-la habentuâ_n corum_fw-la semina_fw-la &_o âquivalentia_fw-la bellann_n de_fw-fr christo_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 2_o we_o retain_v these_o word_n essence_n consubstantial_a hypostasis_fw-la person_n &c_n &c_n because_o we_o find_v word_n which_o be_v aquivalent_a unto_o they_o in_o scripture_n although_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o contain_v these_o same_o word_n that_o of_o the_o consubstantiality_n of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o tertullian_n in_o a_o praxâam_fw-la a_o tertul._n adâ_n praxâam_fw-la treatise_n write_v for_o that_o purpose_n â_o purpose_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d theodor_n dialog_n â_o for_o this_o we_o will_v produce_v demonstration_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n say_v theodor._n â_o dispute_v against_o arius_n concern_v this_o point_n 5._o point_n quomo_n âo_o dicis_fw-la in_o scripture_n homoousion_n non_fw-la inveniâi_fw-la quasi_fw-la aliud_fw-la âit_n homoousion_n quam_fw-la quod_fw-la dicit_fw-la ego_fw-la de_fw-la patre_fw-la exivi_fw-la et_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o pater_fw-la unum_fw-la sumus_fw-la ambrosâ_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la cont_n arianâ_n c._n 5._o how_o do_v thou_o say_v say_v ambrose_n the_o word_n consubstantial_a be_v not_o find_v 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