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A05364 A consultation what faith and religion is best to be imbraced. Written in Latin by the R. Father Leonard Lessius, Professour in Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by W.I. Lessius, Leonardus, 1554-1623.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 15517; ESTC S105037 99,482 276

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by vertue and power of Gods decree And this againe was in tymes past an heresy of Simon (d) Vincēt Lirin Magus and of (e) Eusebius l. 5. c. 20. Florinus 3. Both teach that good works be not necessary to saluation and that fayth is ynough But this was an heresy of the same Simon (f) Iren. l. 1. c. 20● Magus and of (g) Aug. haer 54. the Eunomians about the yeare of Christ 360. 4. Both also teach that syns though neuer so many and great do not hurt him who hath fayth for that the malice of them is not imputed to him who beleeueth And this was also in tymes past an heresy of the (h) Aug. haer 54. Eunomians and of Basilides and Carpocrates as witnesseth Irenaeus l. 1. c. 23. 24. 5. Caluin denyeth the reall presence of Christs body in the Eucharist But this was againe an heresy of Berengarius about the yeare of our Lord 1051. Where it is to be noted first though some priuately before Berengarius doubted of that matter and moued the question about it yet none was so hardy as to professe it in publike as testifieth Hugh of Langres and Adelman of Bressia in their epistles to Berengarius and Paschasius in his booke of the words of the Institution of this Sacrament In so much as this was the constant and vniforme doctrine of the Church not opposed against by any arch-heretike vntill the tyme of Berengarius Secondly that Berengarius his opinion was whiles he yetlyued condemned in fiue Councells and that Berengarius himselfe thrise abiured his opinion and in conclusion died very penitent in the Catholike fayth He being dead the same heresy lay buried vp welneere two hundred yeares vntill the tyme of the Lollards who brought it to light againe as is gathered out of Trithemius in his Chronicle about the yeare 1315. After this againe VVicliffe held the same as appeareth by his third article After his death againe there was a deep silence of that matter for the space of an hundred yeares vntill Swinglius renewed it and Caluin and some others after him Whereby it euidently appeareth that this opinion was euer in the Church held for a manifest heresy therfore eyther the Church hath euer erred in a principall article of fayth and so consequently it was neuer Christs Church or that opinion which abrogateth and disclaymeth from the Reall presence of Christs body is an heresy indeed 6. Both take away all traditions and would haue all things to be comprehended in Scriptures alone The same was the heresy of the Arians as is recorded by S. Augustine also of Nestorius l. 1. contra Maxim c. 2. vlt. Dioscorus and Eutiches as is declared in the seauenth Synod Act. 1. 7. Both deny the Sacraments of Penance and of Confirmation The Nouatians taught the same opinion long ago as witnesse S. Cyprian l. 4. epist 2. l. 3. baer fabularum and S. Theodoret 8. Both teach that the Church consisteth of good alone and that the Church in former tymes visible perished notwithstanding for many ages that in this tyme it only remayneth in their congregations The very like was the heresy of the Donatists as testifieth S. Augustine l. de vnit Eccl. c. 12. 9. Both of them teach that prayer is not to be made for the dead that 〈◊〉 fast of Lent or any other stable fasts be not to be keep but euery one is then to fast when it shall to him seeme good The Aerians taught the very same in former ages if we beleeue Epiphamus haer 75. and S. Augustine l. dehaer c. 33. 10. Both deny the veneration of holy Reliques of Christs and Saints Images and call it Idolatry Vigilantius did no lesse many ages past as witnesseth S. Hierome The same did the Image breakers as testify Zoneras Cedrenus and Nicephorus touching them who made war against Images By these it is more then manifest that the chiefest opinions whereof Lutheranisme and Caluinisme consist be ancient heresyes long since condemned by the Church and that the same were alwayes held in the Church for heresyes The same may we easily exemplify and declare touching the rest Vide Bellar de notis Eccl. c. 9. Coccius de signis Eccl. l. 8. art 3. Wherehence it followeth that these Religions be nothing but the very sincke of heresyes of old longe ago put to silence and now in these latter dayes brought to light againe The XI Reason From the want of a Rule of Faith THESE new Religions haue no certaine rule of Faith to follow therfore they are not to be receyued For the principall heads of Religion must be determined certaine and withall immutable And that they haue not any certaine rule of beliefe whereby it may be resolued what is necessary to be beleeued and what not is euident First for that they admit neyther the traditions of the Church nor the authority of generall Councells nor the iudgment of the ancient Doctors of the Church and of those who flourished and liued before these our Controuersies Luther reiecteth all traditions in c. l. 4. c. 8. §. 6.7 8 in Antid ad 4. fes● Conc. Trident 1. ad Galatas as doth Caluin also l. 4. Instit and they teach that nothing is to be beleeued nothing to be receyued an holy Scripture Luther so contemneth Generall Councells which haue hitherto had most great authority in Gods Church for they be as it were the Parlaments of Princes In art 115 sequentib Peers in Christs Kingdome as he will haue the definitions therof subiect to the iudgment and censure of euery priuate person And he further sayth that it is a mad thing that the Councells will conclude what is to be beleeued And in the same place he teacheth that what is to be beleeued what not is to be left to the iudgment of euery spirituall man Caluin insinuateth no lesse l. 1. c. 7. § 1.2 4. when he sayth that it is not for the Church to iudge what books be Canonicall but that appertayneth to the inward spirit alone Finally as touching the Fathers Luther careth not for a thousand Augustines l. contra Regem Augiae a thousand Cyprians Caluin also in very many places contemneth them and affirmeth that they erred Wherefore none of all these is vnto them a rule of fayth But say they The Scripture it selfe is vnto vs a rule of fayth it cānot erre But it is an easy matter ●o shew that this rule serueth not the turne First because we by this rule cannot iudge of the Scripture it selfe and so the rule it selfe will remayne vnto vs vncertain which yet should haue the greatest certitude of all For by the Scripture it cannot come to be knowne for certaine that such a book is truly Scripture is not Apocripall nor composed by some deceiptfull person that this or that sentence is not peruerted northrust in Finally that nothing is added or taken
the last dayes there shall some depart from their saith attending to the spirits of error and doctrines of the diuell For euery heresy is the doctrine of the Diuell And S. Iohn saith 1. Ioan. 4. Do not belieue euery spirit but try their spirits whether they be of God or not For many false Prophets are gone out into the world This therefore is the spirit which beareth rule in the harts of heretiks whose testimony operation they feele inwardly engrafted in their harts and yet they thinke it to be the worke of the holy Ghost who so blindeth their mind and fansies that they iudge light to be darknesse and darknesse light that they think the most cleare truth of the Catholike faith to be an error and most filthy errors to be the cleare truth And truly if they were not wholy blinded bewitched they might easily perceiue that spirit whome they feele inwardly not to be the spirit of God or at the least they might begin to doubt therof seing that all sects among whome there is so great dissention variety of opinions do all equally feele boast of and follow that testimony of this spirit and rely vpon it in the confirmation of their most contrary opinions but this hapneth by the iust iudgment of God for as the Iewes who would not receiue Christ were permitted to be blinded by the diuell as it is manifest by the Apost 2. ad Thes 2. so heretiks because they haue forsaken the Catholik fayth the which is no lesse a fault then that of the Iewes are deliuered vnto him that he may as it were bewitch their minds and driue them into all kind of error But if any will attentiuely consider he shall easily preceyue a more potent operation of the diuell and bewitching of mindes in our Heretiks The diuell doth sooner bewitch Heretiks then Iewes then eyther in Iewes or Mahometans and that for two reasons First because the Iews agree in the same faith neither is there any variety of sects among them among the Mahomets there are only two sects and there is no great difference betwixt thē But among heretiks of these tymes there are many sects some arising by the increase of new opinions who condemne one another of heresy and all these are risen within the space of 90. yeares the which is a manifest signe that the diuell meruailously possesseth inwardly the hartes of these men troubling their fansies peruerting their imaginations and iudgments that they cannot remayne or be quiet any where Secondly because the common sort of people among the Iewes and Turkes do not rely vpon their owne iudgment or vpon the testimony and instinct of the priuate spirit but vpon the iudgment of their doctors or which is all one vpon their owne Scripture as it is interpreted vnto them by the doctors of their Religion they haue therfore the rule of their faith and ground of their beliefe conformable as it were to reason that is to say the common consent of their predecessors or the Scripture explicated vnto them by the consent of the doctors of their Religion But most of the heretikes of these tymes do not respect their Superiors and Apostles from whom they first receiued this new Ghospell but they forsake them as men subiect to error and they rely wholy vpon their owne iudgment or vpon the testimony of the priuat spirit or which is al one vpon the Scripture only vnderstood after the sense of their owne iudgment priuate spirit the which is an euident sign that Sathan doth so effectually worke in them bewitch their myndes that not only euery one feygneth vnto himselfe new heresies and opinions but also that he placeth the foundation of his beliefe rule of faith in himself in his owne inward sense and iudgement for euery one thinketh himself to be taught by our Lord and indued with the Magistery of the spirit albeit they be women yong girles therfore to be free from error but al the holy Fathers to haue byn men subiect to error The same they iudge of their Apostles and Ministers But what greater bewitching or deceiuing of people can there be then this Hence it commeth to passe that they haue no certaine and established opinions amongst them neither can they set downe or frame any body of doctrine and religion but they must wander vp and downe in vncertaintyes as the priuate spirit leadeth them neyther can there any disputation be made with them cōcerning their opinions seing that they do not defend any one opinion they being by reason of the ignorance of their predecessors altogeather vnlearned But of this spirit of folly madnesse we haue written more at large in our Consultation in the 9. Consideration the 11. Reason By these it is manifestly concluded that all the ground and foundation of faith wherupon the sects of our tymes relye is false and vncertaine and therfore their faith which relyeth theron is vnprofitable and auayleth nothing to saluation The 8. Reason Eightly if euery one who doth acknowledge Christ may be saued in his owne faith Why is there so great disagreement among religions Why do they excommunicate condemne one another of heresy Why do the Lutherans refuse to acknowledg the Caluinists for their brethren and in their publike sermons and books do call them wicked blasphemous persons Why do the chiefe of the Caluinists among whome Theodore Beza the Father of them all as it were their Pope next after Caluin handle the Lutherans in like manner why do the Anabaptists call those only of their owne sect to be the faithfull Christians and account all others as Infidels Wherby it is euident that this new opinion of doctrine is not only cōtrary to Catholike religion but to all other sects also who haue in them any zeale of piety and religion and to be banished as Atheisme only The 9. Reason Ninthly that any man be saued it sufficeth not to keepe only one two or three commandements but it is necessary to keep all according to those words of Christ Matth. 19. Matth 19. If thou wilt enter into life keep the commandements As if any be an adulterer or thiefe albeit he keep the other commandments he may not be saued as the holy Scripture often teacheth In like manner therfore it is not sufficient to saluation to beleeue two three or foure articles but it is necessary to belieue all those things which God hath reuealed and set downe to vs in his Church to be belieued for faith is no lesse necessary to saluation then obediēce of the commādments of the law of God neither should faith be lesse perfect then the obedience and keeping of the law of God As therfore obedience must extend it selfe to all the commandments so must faith extend it selfe to all things which are reuealed the which may be confirmed by the words of S. Iames in the 2. Iac. 2. Chap. VVhosoeuer hath kept the whole
A CONSVLTATION WHAT FAITH AND RELIG●●● is best to be imbraced WRITTEN IN LATIN By the R. Father Leonard Lessius Professour in Diuinity of the Society of IESVS AND Translated into English by W. I. IHS Permissu Superiorum M.DC.XVIII TO THE RIGHT HONORABLE THE LORD MAIOR TO THE RIGHT WORSHIPFVLL THE ALDERMEN AND TO THE RIGHT WORTHY CITTIZENS OF LONDON The Translatour wisheth all Health and Happines Temporall and Eternall RIGHT HONORABLE RIGHT WORSHIPFVLL AND RIGHT WORTHY I Was p●rswaded to present you with this Treatise trāslated by 〈◊〉 into our mother tongue that hath appeared far better 〈◊〉 in ●●ow●yde it was first inuested only through the loue and respect I beare to your so we deserming persons whose speciall endeauors amidst your other sor●ous imployments in that famous Citty should be and I hope is the attayning of such a traffike that may more redound to the profit of your Soules then your temporall Estates since you know well that a sure and solid foundation of true Religion worketh Eternall Saluation and the contrary eternall woe and misery though otherwise one were neuer so fortunate in all worldly prosperity The worke it selfe is but of some few houres reading and the Author I hope will not be distastfull vnto yow in respect of his person though otherwise of a different Profession habit And though I doubt not but that many of your haue already seene other learned Bookes of like subiect yet because this affoardeth so great variety of forcible Motiues both singularly chosen and most aptly expressed to settle mens Consciences in so waighty an affayre as this is I haue therfore thought good to present it to your View though in a more humble and far lesse polished stile then so profitable a subiect deserueth And heerunto I was the more encouraged by vnderstanding the great fruite and profit which many haue all ready and do dayly reape by a diligent perusall of this Booke in other languages hoping for no lesse in our owne then it hath produced in the Latin French and Dutch especially in men so zealous in that Profession which hath by in these later tymes preached vnto you Which zeale of yours would no doub● be more feruent if Gods Grace by other moth●es proposed should open your eyes to see the cleernes of the Catholike Verity Neither should it offend you that your Consciences hauing byn setled these 60. yeares last past in the Faith that was then proposed vnto you now a new reuiew of matters belonging to Religion should be offered For synce the Scripture doth premonish vs that Heresies must of necessity be and false Teachers would come to disturbe the peace and vnity of the Church of which sort as is apparent by her contrary doctrines this our vnfortunate Age hath byn most fertile it is doublesse no disgrace or signe of leuity or inconstancy by a diligent and iudicious examen to try which of all these diuers spirits is of God and which is that Catholike Church so often commended vnto vs in the Scriptures as nothing more plainely and seriously In which important search the Reading of this little but golden Treatise will by Gods grace affoard such light to discerne Truth from Falshood and such meanes to find out the true gate of Catholike faith which only leadeth to saluation as may satisfy the most Iudicious especially if they reade with that humblenes of spirit as they ought to do who desyre to know the Truth In reading therfore consider attentiuely euery Passage ponder the waight and substance of ech Reason not posting the same ouer as many do transpotted with curiosity to read all new Bookes that come forth and I doubt not you will receaue aboundant satisfaction Read then most worthy Cittizens the ensuing Consultation with an indifferent and vnpartiall eye that you may enrich your soules with the treasure of true knowledg doctrine which leadeth to eternall Life and Happines Wherof I humbly beseech his diuine Maiesty to make you partakers to whom I haue heerewith dedicated both my selfe and seruice to remayne Your seruant euer in Christ Iesus W. I. This 30 of Septemb. 1618. THE TABLE OF THE CONTENTS of the ensuing Consultation THE Preface pag. 1. The I. Consideration Of the desire of Perfection wherunto Christian Religion leadeth pag. 8. The II. Consideration That Christian Religion excludeth liberty of sinning pag. 11. The III. Consideration Drawne frō the Sanctity of the followers of true Religion pag. 2● The IIII. Consideration From the miracles wrought by the imbracers of Catholike Religion pag. 36. The V. Consideration From the Conuersion of Nations by the imbracers of Catholike Religion pag. 48. The VI. Consideration From the Name Catholike and from the thing it selfe signed or marked with this Name pag. 55. The VII Consideration From Succession pag. 59. The VIII Consideration From the consent of the ancient Fathers and Doctours of the Church and from the decision of controuersies without which there is no sodality or fellowship pag. 65. The IX Consideration From diuers causes and reasons for which these new doctrines are to be suspected and shunned pag. 74. The I. Reason Deduced from Nouelty pag. 75. The II. Reason Taken from the defect of Succession pag. 87. The III. Reason From the defect of their Mission pag. 9● The IIII. Reason From the want of Miracles pag. 106. The V. Reason From the conditions of their liues and manners pag. 116. The VI. Reason from their errors and inconstancy in Doctrine pag. 125. The VII Reason Taken from the fraudes and deceipts which the Sectaryes commonly vse pag. 135. The VIII Reason Drawne from the ouerthrow of good Workes pag. 153. The IX Reason Deduced from the liberty of life which they yield vnto pag. 158. The X. Reason That they renew old Heresies pag. 166. The XI Reason From want of a Rule of Fayth pag. 171. The XII Reason Drawne from Absurdity pag. 181. The X. Consideration And conclusion of this Consultation pag. 189. An Appendix of the Author Whether euery one may be saued in his owne Fayth and Religion pag. 214. A CONSVLTATION WHAT FAITH AND RELIGION IS TO be imbraced GREAT is the variety of Religion in this our age and great is the contention about the truth therof Many in this point do continually wauer nor can they determine any certainty passing from one Religion to another as it were from house to house for trialls sake thereby to find tranquility of mind Others through an inconsiderate boldnes do imbrace any Religion which by chance they light vpon without either examining or vnder standing the same who when they are demanded why they preferre that Religion before others they haue no other answere but that it seemes better to them or els which commonly all do oragge of because they follow the very pure word of God This busines notwithstanding is most worthy of great deliberation and discussion seeing that heerin consisteth the very center of our saluation Euerlasting saluation or damnation is
away that maketh to the substance of doctrine All this cannot to be known by Scripture but proued only by certaine humane weake coniectures if you take away the traditions of the Church and so the whole foundatiō of our fayth shall rely vpon vncertaine coniectures Moreouer the vertue and efficacy of the Scripture consisteth not in the sound of the words but in the sense meaning which is the life and soule of the Scripture But there may be a thousand controuersies about the sense which cannot in any sort be decided by the Scripture it selfe if you take a way Traditions and the exposition of the Fathers as experience teacheth For about the sense of these words Hoc est Corpus meum and of many more there is most eager disputation betwene the Lutherans and Caluinists c. If you say with Caluin that the iudgment touching the Scriptures and the vnderstanding of them belongeth to an inward spirit this is nothing but the dictamen of an internall spirit that is for the priuate iudgment of euery particular person to set down the first rule how to beleeue For euery one may say that he hath the spirit and by the inspiration therof can iudge and determine that this part or booke is holy Scripture and not that that this is the sense not that So a● Lutheran out of his spirit giueth iudgment In prologonou● Testamer ti that S. Iames Epistle is a strawy Epistle and the Apocalyps of S. Iohn of doubtfull authority But the Caluinist out of his soiri● iudgeth the one and the other to be the word of God So Luther out of his spirit iudgeth that this false opinion is to be abolished that there be foure Gospells for that S. Iohns Gospell is but one faire true and principall and to be far preferred before the other three In like manner S. Paules and S. Peters epistles do sar go beyond sayth be the three Gospells of Mathew Marke and Luke He would willingly haue reiected them because they plainely proue establish the merit and necessity of good works and the obseruation of the commaundements and do recommend chastity and pouerty But when he durst not cleane reiect them he would extennate their authority and insinuate that they were not written with the spirit of God In like maner Caluin out of his own sense iudgeth that these words Hoc est Corpus meum haue this meaning This breed is the figure of my body and Luther will haue it This bread is truly my body I omit other thing without nūber by which it appeareth that euery ones priuate iudgment is proposed for arule of beleefe or which is the same that the Scripture it selfe is expounded and interpreted according to euery ones priuate iudgment Secondly that is not any fit rule of beliefe that is a like accommodated to contrary doctrines but the scripture is accommodated to contrary Religions and doctrines for as much as all the Sects of this time though they do in an hostile manner dissent and contend in very many and those the most inportant heads and grounds do neuertheles make this rule to serue their turne and doe vse it for the mantayning of their opinions and heresyes For the Lutherans say they rely vpon Scripture the Caluinists affirme the same the Anabaptists also are nothing behind them in auerring that the Scriptures be for them And no meruaile because euery one of them taketh and interpreteh the Scripture not conforme to the comon vnderstanding of the Church or the common exposition of the Fathers as do the Catholikes but according to the sense of euery priuate spirit in which sort it may bee easilie accommodated to all heresies Whence it is euident that this rule so taken serueth not the turne whiles all is reduced to the iudgment of euery ones priuate spirit Thirdly if there were some iudge who in euery Controuerly wherein he were to giue sentence should so doe it as it could not be certainly vnderstood for whether party he pronounced the sentence but both partyes should contend that the matter were adiudged and determined on their side and that the sentence of the Iudge was expresly plainly pronounced for them such an one in the opinion of all men could not be thought a competent Iudge sith no matter in cōtrouersie could bee determined or ended by sentence giuen by him For after sentence there would bee as greata contention about the sentence it selfe whether of them it might seeme to fauour as there had been before about the right that ech party had And such a Iudge is Holy Scripture if you take away the Churches interpretation and declaration and the exposition of the holy Fathers for as much as the sentence therof is euer such as it cannot bee euident to both parties whether of them it fauoureth whiles the one and the other doth stifly maintaine that it is most plaine that it holdeth and standeth for them And hence it is that controuersies bee neuer ended and therefore it is not onely a vaine but also a ridiculous thing to appoint the Scripture alone for Iudge For in euery controuersy there ought such a Iudge to be designed who may so giue sentence as it may be manifest to all and most of all to those parties on whose behalf the cause is adiuged otherwise such a controuersy can neuer be ended Wherfore those who make the Scripture alone the Iudge of matters in question do therin plainely manifest that they admit not any iudge at all by whome the cause may be determined besids their priuate iudgment alone For they do as if Titus and Caius hauing a suite at Law would not haue any other Iudge in the matter but Iustinian his Code together with the Pandects without hauing any thing to do with the interpretation of Doctors and Titus producing for his owne right some law should by it maintayne that the cause was manifestly adiudged for him And Caius againe should deny it who by citing an other law for himselfe should say that it was cleare that that law fauoured made for him which Titus would in lake manner deny and so they should both depart without any decision of the cause or controuersy in hand would it not be a matter worthy of laughter and all would say that neyther of them desired the determination or decision of the cause And that neyther admitted other Iudge then his owne iudgment In the very like manner in this that they wil not haue any other Iudge then Scripture and euery one reserueth the interpretatiō thereof to his owne spirit they plainely shew that they haue no will that the cause should be decided or defined by any lawfull way nor to admit any Iudg but their owne iudgment Fourthly how very insufficient this rule of beliefe is experience it selfe plainely teacheth For we see that there is not any end of controuersies among them euen about the greatest matter of fayth sith at this very tyme the Lutherans Caluinists
because in it I see very many admirable to the whole world for wisdome sanctimony miracles and the spirit of prophesy whome it is impossible to haue byn in a matter so important deceyued for that I see that God himselfe hath and doth in euery age giue testimony of it by many mi●acles because I see Gods promises fulfilled in it as being dispersed and spread all the world ouer Vnto it haue the Gentils byn hitherto conuerted and still continually are In it there hath been in all ages exce●●●ing concord and consent of Doctors in the grounds of fayth In it hath byn and still is a perpetuall succession of the Chaire and a continuance in the ministers therof from the Aposties In it is a speedy decision of all con●rouersyes It hath for so many ages stood immoueable against all heresyes and persecutions of Tyrants neyther could the gates of hell any thing preuayle against it whiles all the contraryes be found in the new Religions And therefore I had no reason at all to reuolt from this religion or to make any doubt of it at all But to omit further to prosecute other things of this kind is it not inough for my security that I am sure that I haue followed that religion in which I see men of most holy life and most celebrated for miracles S. Malachy S. Bernard S. Dominicke S. Francis and alothers who were fyue hundred yeares synce by their heauenly conuersation wonderfull works an admiration to the world to haue lyued and died For most cleare it is that those celestiall soules so addicted and deuoted to God so deare and familyar to him could not possibly be deceyued in a matter of so great consequence And therefore in this cause of religion and fayth I securely follow such captaynes guides that haue gone before me But now tell me you who haue imbraced another religion what reckoning can you giue of that your deed when you shall in that dreadfull examen be asked about it You will perhaps answe●e the iudge What wil an Heretike answere I did therefore forsake the Catholike fayth because I thought it full of Idolatry superstitions and humane traditions because I thought that Antichrist did command and beare sway in it because I thought the Catholikes did rely vpon their owne meritts and not vpon the price of thy bloud But what if the Diuells bewitching you which now hath a possession of your mind should then be taken away you should plainely see your selfe deceyued what counsaile would you take for then there will not be any more tyme for pennance and repentance Will you peraduenture alleadge ignorance But that wil not excuse you because you might easily haue knowne the truth if you had vsed the diligence that you were bound to do in so important a matter Neyther euer wanted you iust reason of doubting which should haue moued you to seeke for resolution Wherefore as it shall not excuse the Iewes that they erred of ignorance because they might haue knowne the truth so shall it not excuse you For that you might without syn depart from the Catholike Church it was your part not only to thinke and vpon certaine light suspitions to conceyue but also most certainely to know and setting aside all affection to be most assured that there were those euills in the Catholike religion so as there might be left no further scruple in your mind nor any iust cause of doubting in the matter But you were so far from hauing such a certitude touching the Churches errors as you had not any probable reason to perswade you to the contrary For by what probability or pretence of truth could you be persuaded to thinke that that religion was obnoxious to Idolatry and to so great errors which you saw imbraced for so many ages of so many men renowned for their wisdome holynes of life Which you saw honoured with such so great and many miracles martyrdomes Which you saw spread all the world ouer In which there was an exceeding conspiration and concord of the Doctors a perpetuall succession and a most manifest and knowne continuance from the Apostles How can it possibly be that none of the Doctors nor no holy man did for so many ages togeather note and obserue this Idolatry these superstitions and errors Againe how could you perswade your selfe that that is Christs true religion that maketh God the author and mouer yea compeller to all wickednes that spoyleth men of the liberty of free will that taketh away the care of exercising of good works that openeth a most wide gate to al manner of wickednes as doth Atheisme that vnder shew of Christian liberty exempteth and freeth the subiects from the lawes and obedience to their Princes that reuiueth and bringeth many ancient and condemned heresyes to light againe the authors whereof be not recommended for any austerity conuersation or sanctimony of life nor celebrated for any miracles but mē giuen to the pleasures of the flesh couetous of things of the world ambitious foule spoken seditious infamous for Apostasy and sacrilegious Mariages giuen ouer to lust and withall wonderfully inconstant in doctrine Finally if any of these new vpstart Religions be true then there was not any religion of Christ for so many ages past Christs Kingdome was ruyned and ouerthrowne Gods promises touching the stability and continuance of his Church were made voide the gates of hell preuayled against it The Gospell was then for so many hundreds of yeares preached in vaine in vaine was it beleeued in vaine were so many conuerted from paganisme in vaine were Baptisme other Sacraments administred in vaine were fasts kept and mortifications of the flesh practised in vaine were martyrdomes endured and the bloud of so many thousands shed for the confession of Christs name Therefore all those of our religion who are gone before vs are perished so many thousands of martyrs Confessors so many soules consecrated to God celebrated for holynes miracles and the spirit of prophesy For all of them had not any part of true religion in them nor true iustice and all were giuen to Idolatry But if all this be false blasphemous and euen horrible to thinke how could it be that you could not think that those religions out of which so horrible things are manifestly deduced might be false or at least that you doubted not of thē And if you doubted wherefore laboured you not to vnderstād the truth on which your whole soules good dependeth Our Lord admonished that we should carefully take heed of false Prophets who come vnto vs in sheepes cloathing and inwardly be rauening wolues Matth. 7. How did it not come at one tyme or other into your mind to thinke and to feare least Luther Caluin Menno and the like were of the number of them of whome our Lord premonished vs to beware For these men vnder a glorious shew of Gods word and of the pure Gospell presented themselues vnto the world