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A68865 Catalogus Protestantium: or, the Protestants kalender Containing a suruiew of the Protestants religion long before Luthers dayes, euen to the time of the Apostles, and in the primitiue Church. By George Web D. of Diuinity, and preacher of the Word of God at the Bathe. Webbe, George, 1581-1642. 1624 (1624) STC 25161; ESTC S119580 57,841 126

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point_n of_o our_o and_o his_o concordance_n in_o france_n eleutherius_fw-la bish_n of_o lion_n saluianus_n bish_n of_o marsell_n hilarius_n first_o bishop_n of_o arles_n afterward_o of_o vienne_n oppose_v himself_o direct_o against_o leo_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o will_v acknowledge_v no_o jurisdiction_n of_o that_o sea_n over_o the_o church_n of_o france_n he_o come_v to_o rome_n and_o withstand_v the_o pope_n to_o his_o face_n leo_fw-la ad_fw-la gal._n episc_n epist_n 77._o &_o 89._o vincentius_n lirinensis_n magd._n cent_n 5._o c._n 10._o prosper_v aquitanicus_n magd._n cent_n 5._o c._n 10._o martinus_n turonensis_n magd._n cent_n 5._o c._n 10._o between_o the_o year_n 350._o and_o 400._o in_o italy_n ambrose_n bishop_n of_o milan_n who_o accord_n with_o we_o in_o the_o main_a point_n of_o our_o religion_n may_v appear_v out_o of_o his_o writing_n viz._n hierome_n bear_v in_o stridon_n a_o town_n of_o dalmatia_n bring_v up_o in_o learning_n at_o rome_n who_o although_o he_o want_v not_o his_o error_n and_o incline_v much_o to_o diverse_a superstition_n which_o begin_v about_o those_o time_n yet_o accord_v in_o many_o thing_n with_o we_o as_o may_v appear_v by_o his_o writing_n in_o antiochia_n flavianus_n against_o who_o damasus_n syricius_n and_o anastasius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v mighty_a opposite_n who_o misinform_v the_o good_a emperor_n theodosius_n against_o he_o before_o who_o when_o flavianus_n have_v appear_v he_o free_o and_o wise_o speak_v to_o this_o effect_n o_o emperor_n if_o any_o man_n blame_v my_o faith_n as_o perverse_a or_o my_o life_n as_o unworthy_a i_o be_o content_a to_o be_v judge_v by_o my_o very_a adversary_n but_o if_o the_o disputation_n be_v only_o concern_v principality_n and_o eminent_a place_n i_o will_v not_o contend_v with_o any_o man_n but_o denude_v myself_o of_o all_o superiority_n and_o commit_v the_o charge_n of_o antiochia_n to_o who_o you_o like_v best_o theodor_n lib._n 5._o c._n
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