Selected quad for the lemma: faith_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
faith_n	point_n	scripture_n	tradition_n	4,854	5	9.5473	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A35974	A discourse concerning infallibility in religion written by Sir Kenelme Digby to the Lord George Digby, eldest sonne of the Earle of Bristol.	Digby, Kenelm, Sir, 1603-1665.; Bristol, George Digby, Earl of, 1612-1677.	1652 (1652)	Wing D1431; ESTC R8320	74,300	238

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