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A39566 Christianismus redivivus Christndom both un-christ'ned and new-christ'ned, or, that good old way of dipping and in-churching of men and women after faith and repentance professed, commonly (but not properly) called Anabaptism, vindicated ... : in five or six several systems containing a general answer ... : not onely a publick disputation for infant baptism managed by many ministers before thousands of people against this author ... : but also Mr. Baxters Scripture proofs are proved Scriptureless ... / by Samuel Fisher ... Fisher, Samuel, 1605-1665.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1655 (1655) Wing F1049; ESTC R40901 968,208 646

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save_v they_o that_o can_v neither_o sin_n or_o be_v preach_v to_o nor_o believe_v but_o that_o very_a self_n same_o way_n of_o believe_v be_v he_o tie_v to_o that_o mean_n to_o save_v infant_n by_o as_o we_o be_v tie_v to_o it_o in_o order_n to_o the_o save_n of_o ourselves_o viz._n the_o way_n of_o faith_n if_o so_o why_o not_o to_o repentance_n and_o self_n denial_n also_o for_o both_o these_o be_v the_o way_n to_o we_o act._n 2.38.40_o mat._n 16.24_o and_o will_v it_o not_o shift_v a_o man_n out_o of_o his_o seven_o sense_n to_o hear_v such_o doctrine_n that_o infant_n as_o ever_o they_o will_v be_v save_v die_v infant_n must_v even_o in_o their_o infancy_n repent_v be_v it_o not_o manifold_a more_o suitable_a to_o reason_n and_o sense_n of_o scripture_n that_o as_o infant_n so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v guilty_a become_v guilty_a unwitting_o to_o themselves_o by_o the_o presentment_n and_o imputation_n of_o the_o first_o adam_n sin_n without_o personal_a disobedience_n in_o 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for_o infant_n baptism_n from_o the_o several_a household_n that_o be_v say_v to_o be_v baptize_v discover_v and_o disprove_v p._n 185._o to_o 188._o old_a england_n scotland_n new_a england_n concur_v together_o by_o the_o ear_n about_o their_o infant-rantism_a 227._o to_o 237._o all_o those_o eulogy_n or_o high_a commendation_n that_o be_v give_v to_o little_a infant_n in_o those_o scripture_n mark_n 10.14_o mat._n 19.14_o luke_n 18.16_o can_v possible_o prove_v they_o to_o have_v any_o right_n to_o baptism_n and_o the_o childish_a dispute_n of_o the_o ashford_n disputer_n therefrom_o disprove_v also_o dr._n holms_n weak_a arguing_n from_o mark_n 10._o for_o infant_n baptism_n and_o that_o scripture_n open_v and_o urge_v as_o a_o strong_a argument_n against_o the_o priest_n in_o that_o point_n p._n 132._o to_o 142._o f_o faith_n their_o apparent_a have_v of_o which_o be_v the_o first_o way_n whereby_o the_o ashford_n disputant_n will_v prove_v believer_n infant_n to_o have_v the_o spirit_n not_o possible_a to_o be_v in_o any_o infant_n much_o less_o to_o be_v manifest_v to_o be_v in_o believer_n infant_n more_o than_o in_o those_o of_o unbeliever_n the_o childish_a dispute_n of_o the_o ashford_n disputer_n in_o proof_n of_o infant_n believe_v from_o matth._n 18.6_o from_o faith_n be_v and_o witness_v by_o their_o circumcision_n to_o be_v in_o the_o jew_n infant_n from_o their_o uncapablenesse_n to_o be_v justify_v and_o save_v without_o it_o and_o from_o all_o other_o consideration_n whatsoever_o abundant_o disprove_v p._n 69._o to_o 75.195_o to_o 201.271_o to_o 279._o and_o their_o unreasonable_a repulse_n to_o such_o objection_n as_o themselves_o confess_v reason_n make_v against_o infant_n faith_n on_o reason_n behalf_n reply_v to_o p._n 279._o to_o 299._o not_o only_o the_o primitive_a father_n viz._n f._n peter_n f._n paul_n f._n judas_n f._n james_n f._n john_n be_v all_o for_o we_o but_o the_o sub-primitive_a father_n which_o the_o ashford_n disputer_n pretend_v they_o will_v fain_o have_v plead_v it_o from_o &_o perhaps_o be_v more_o verse_v in_o then_o in_o the_o other_o discover_v to_o be_v more_o against_o then_o for_o infant_n baptism_n p._n 214._o to_o 226._o h_o imposition_n of_o hand_n assert_v unanimous_o by_o paraeus_n calvin_n hophman_n marlorat_n bullinger_n cotton_n and_o dr._n holmes_n who_o cite_v these_o to_o be_v dispense_v in_o ancient_a time_n to_o baptize_v person_n when_o at_o year_n in_o order_n to_o their_o admittance_n into_o church-fellowship_n p._n 139._o one_o undeniable_a argument_n for_o the_o present_a use_n and_o practice_v of_o that_o doctrine_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n on_o baptize_v believer_n before_o their_o admission_n into_o fellowship_n in_o the_o church_n p._n 492._o in_o prosecution_n of_o which_o a_o paper_n new_o extant_a style_v question_n about_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n with_o the_o ground_n thereof_o be_v answer_v p._n 493._o to_o 510._o what_o heresy_n and_o schism_n be_v who_o be_v a_o schismatical_a heretic_n p._n 524.525_o the_o pppriest_n prove_v to_o be_v the_o chief_a heretic_n and_o schismatic_n p._n 526._o to_o 528._o the_o church_n of_o the_o baptist_n clear_v themselves_o from_o the_o crime_n of_o heresy_n and_o schism_n out_o of_o calvin_n own_o mouth_n p._n 529.530.531_o heresy_n idolatry_n false_a worship_n 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v tolerate_v in_o civil_a state_n the_o parable_n of_o the_o tare_n and_o wheat_n mat._n 13._o open_v liberty_n of_o conscience_n in_o matter_n mere_o of_o religion_n prove_v and_o plead_v therefrom_o and_o by_o many_o other_o argument_n as_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o high_a power_n of_o the_o earth_n strict_o summon_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n as_o they_o will_v answer_v the_o contrary_a at_o their_o peril_n to_o cease_v act_v according_o to_o the_o pppriesthood_n bloody_a tenet_n of_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n p._n 532._o sundry_a cause_n why_o god_n suffer_v heretic_n to_o be_v four_o great_a cause_n of_o the_o ccclergye_n so_o great_a heresy_n and_o err_v from_o the_o truth_n viz._n 1_o amor_fw-la svi_fw-la self_n conceit_n 2_o dislike_n of_o their_o own_o place_n 3_o gloriae_fw-la secularis_fw-la aucupium_fw-la a_o desire_n to_o be_v some_o body_n 4_o covetousness_n p._n 590._o to_o 608._o holiness_n threefold_a 1_o moral_a none_o of_o this_o in_o infant_n p._n 75._o to_o 78._o 2_o matrimonial_a this_o in_o all_o infant_n as_o well_o as_o some_o save_o only_a bastard_n but_o prove_v not_o the_o holy_a spirit_n to_o be_v in_o its_o subject_n nor_o give_v any_o right_n to_o baptism_n yet_o this_o prove_v to_o by_o the_o holiness_n only_o mean_v in_o 1_o cor._n 7.14_o p._n 78._o to_o 85_o 3._o ceremonial_a viz._n that_o of_o the_o jew_n by_o nature_n that_o entitle_v they_o to_o circumcision_n common_o call_v faederall_n by_o the_o priest_n the_o common_a topick_n whence_o they_o analogical_o plead_v a_o birth_n holiness_n in_o believer_n infant_n &_o consequent_o their_o right_n to_o baptism_n prove_v abundant_o to_o be_v abolish_v and_o the_o extreme_a contradiction_n folly_n absurdity_n of_o mr._n blakes_n baby_n book_n style_v the_o birth-privi●edge_a discover_v p._n 85_o to_o 132._o the_o holiness_n of_o the_o jew_n seed_n confess_v by_o both_o mr._n blake_n and_o mr._n baxter_n to_o be_v the_o same_o whereby_o the_o land_n city_n temple_n be_v holy_a which_o be_v ceremonial_a and_o abolish_v the_o other_o must_v needs_o be_v so_o also_o p_o 114.115_o the_o babish_a dispute_n of_o the_o ash●ord_n disputer_n and_o of_o mr._n baxter_n for_o infant_n baptism_n from_o the_o hope_n or_o hopelessnesse_n of_o their_o salvation_n according_a as_o we_o dispense_v or_o deny_v baptism_n to_o they_o discover_v and_o disprove_v and_o ground_n to_o hope_v the_o salvation_n of_o all_o die_a infant_n whether_o baptize_v or_o no_o exhibit_v p._n 189._o to_o 193._o also_o 442._o to_o 462._o i_o innocency_n of_o infant_n no_o argument_n for_o their_o baptism_n but_o 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